We always had a anvil in our shop even though we didn’t use it for blacksmithing. It got used on the farm to beat out u joints, flatten rivets, and general things farm related. That anvil goes to my older brother, however I found one yesterday for my shop. It is a Black Jack which I see was made by Hay Budden for Black Jack Hardware store. My serial number shows it to be made in 1907 and weighs around 90 lbs. I am thrilled to now own my own anvil!
I have to thank you! You did all of my research for me. I am soon to be getting my hands on my first Hay Budden, Serial 151882. I cant wait to forge some knives on it!
I've bought and sold a number of anvils and today bought my first Hay Budden. After watching, I went right out to the truck and got the numbers and found #4 on the inside of the waist. It's a two-piece in marvelous condition. Has nearly a flat bottom vs. hollow. I paid way up but it will bring a good price.
@@paulorchard7960 I buy mine for resale, this particular anvil is available to own. I buy and sell about 70 anvils a year, generally buying low and selling at market price once cleaned up and researched. If you don’t want to keep paying $800 for an anvil I’m buying for $200, stop looking for anvils at the same places as everyone else. There are soooo many anvils out there, and if you’re not finding them…. You’re looking in all the wrong places. My rent is paid by sourcing anvils, cleaning them up, and increasing their value by showcasing their history- what aspect of my job makes me a terrible person? Is it the preservation of history or the conveying of knowledge? Which aspect of those two should have no value?
So my Father wanted an Anvil and had been keeping an eye out for one, on our way home from the dump we stopped at a small collectors store where he had a few anvils, my father was looking at them and talking about price. the nicest one was the largest one that was actually outside, the owner decided that as it was late fall to offer my father a deal on the Anvil if he could get it out of the walkway so that the owner did not have to clear around it for the winter. We went home and he discussed it with my mother, who gave permission to buy the anvil the next problem came to getting it home. This is I believe a 450# Peter Wright Anvil that we needed to load into a vehicle by hand we decided the Vanagon had the lowest load level and ability to handle the weight so we headed back to load it up. we did manage to load it from a Dolly into the van but not without leaving a sizeable dent and were fortunate enough to use an engine hoist to unload it and it now lives happily in his Garage.
My new harbor freight 60 pounder has quite the story. Just how i took the red paint off is a novel akin to war and peace. Dressing the edges is like a Christmas carol, and tuning up the bick is like ..:. Well you know
I’ve got a pretty nice Hay Budden that pulled out of my grandfather barn after banging in it my whole childhood. Wire wheeled it and have been enjoying it. I should take the time to researched its vintage. Maybe some day
I just found a Trenton anvil in a friend's barn. She said I could have it if I could get it out and into my truck. Done deal. It's in kind of rough shape but I think usable. Could you possibly help me out with some background on it? It's stamped on the foot under the horn with 195 (weight?) and the serial number A100451. It weighed 193 pounds on my scale. I'm curious as to it's date of manufacture and its origin. Thank you in advance for any light you can shed on it. Also, it had a nice ring to it and good rebound at around 95% with a stele ball from one foot. I'm thinking it's a forged type.
We have a hay budden 103 or 183 that my great grandpa traded for 2 pigs back in the day and everyone wanted to take it off my grandpas hands. Being a farm anvil it’s definitely seen it’s use the edges are rolled pretty good but besides that it’s still in good shape with a great ring to it
I never quite got the programming down- but I’m taking Bob Claggets “fusion 360 for makers” workshop and hoping I can gain some useful skills and put the tool to use!
Anvil story? I have a rather large German anvil that was from WWII, I am certain. In the deep tapering hardie hole was trapped bits of burned detritis, I was informed by the buyer(hi Josh!)came from a bombed factory. Under the bits of wood, I retrieved a can opener blade blank which exactly matches a German army pocket knife.
My great grandfather was the original owner. I just finally dragged it out from under my dads bench with 50 years of no use and beat on it to get all the scale off and good as new. My neighbors heard every wack😁
My first anvil has to be my favorite, my neighbors inherited it from a friend of theirs, they didn’t know what it was and used it as a weight to hold down a piece of shade cloth. I knew exactly what it was, and begged them for years to sell it to me, eventually one day they called me over and said they wanted to sell, what could I offer them. I was 18 so I didn’t have much, but I scratched together everything i could afford and made them an offer which they accepted. Later as I learned more I found out it was a 167lb mouse hole. Sadly I sold it years later. Nevertheless that little anvil is what started my addiction of buying and fixing anvils.
I have a Hay Budden anvil that I picked up on trade for one of my knives I can’t afford to buy a copy of Dr. postman‘s book if I were to send you some pictures would you be willing to help me identify this beauty
I am not comfortable copying from a book that’s still in print, available, and the value of is established and agreed upon between both of us as containing the knowledge you need for a price that directly benefits the family of the late Richard postman. I would suggest contacting your local library and requesting it- they’ll be thrilled to order in a book for you! Either through inner library exchange or direct purchase at your request. Support your community library and support the author of the book- all at no charge to you.
You asked about rod I use?? Or I think you did. Please forgive my senile mistakes... So- I use 11018 electrode.. They way to apply is more important.. I preheat anvil to 350 degrees Farenheit. Start at one end and run ONLY about an inch to two then go all way to other end and do same.. Keep splitting distances until done.. This keeps excessive heat buildup in any one spot.. I learned this from Bill Apple from up in Seattle. 11018 applied this way winds up with about Rockwell52 which is ideal.. One other bonus is that,for some reason,11018 blends in so well that you can't see where repair was done with all anvils I've put it on.. My friend at Essential Craftsman on You Tube did a nice video on this.. He uses a different rod which gives one options.
No the one you bounced the ball on was an 1850s era Peter Wright that was uncrated, New, in the 1970s and then lightly used by a body shop since. It's got a remarkable 95% rebound that's unparalleled by any other anvil I've ever come across. That's my baby!
Nice! I’ve owned lots of small Vulcans and tend to find them to be in perfect or near perfect condition, not really sure who bought them or why- but it sure wasn’t to use them! Lol
Nice! Those are great modern anvils and you got a good deal there! I believe modern anvils are better “in general”, but I’m in it for the history, and modern one has no history.
JHM Competitor is a DREAM to work on. I used one at a hammer in about ten years ago. I too have many old ones in my shop but the new anvils are made out of dream steel...
No No No on the weight!! The first number represents 112lbs. the second represents fourths of that so each number represenst28 pounds. the last number is simply pounds.. An anvil in that system that is stamped 122 weighs 170 pounds.. or 112 plus 56 plus 2equals 170 pounds..You need to read more of Mr. Postman... Really nice anvil. Glad you left it alone..I restore anvils for folks but would balk at that one too.. It is nice... Be glad to share what rods I use...
That is not correct for an American made anvil- but is spot on for many (but not all) English anvils. I would suggest you read up on anvils before giving advice. What rods should I use? This anvil sold for $2,700 in the condition shown.
@@TheBarefootForge Wow- I'll check on my Hay Buddens and get back to you. Apologies if I'm wrong. I understood the English system drifted partially ti U.S..
@@TheBarefootForge Owe you a beer! I'm sneaking up on 80 and had a senile citizen moment! Been restoring anvils for decades and beating on them since serving apprenticeship in 1965..
@@joshuakavett4933 well then you and your book is exactly the one I’m mentioning. I have a copy, love it, and I met you this spring and helped you load a few anvils into the back of your truck up the hill at the gathering.
We always had a anvil in our shop even though we didn’t use it for blacksmithing. It got used on the farm to beat out u joints, flatten rivets, and general things farm related. That anvil goes to my older brother, however I found one yesterday for my shop. It is a Black Jack which I see was made by Hay Budden for Black Jack Hardware store. My serial number shows it to be made in 1907 and weighs around 90 lbs. I am thrilled to now own my own anvil!
I have to thank you! You did all of my research for me. I am soon to be getting my hands on my first Hay Budden, Serial 151882. I cant wait to forge some knives on it!
Thanks for helping me Identify my 1908 Hay-Budden #156237 , 141 pounds , inspected by #2 , steel batch 19 . Still ringing after all these years.
I just found my dream anvil a hay Budden 190 pound I love it I put a add on Craig's list trade for my mig welder
I've bought and sold a number of anvils and today bought my first Hay Budden. After watching, I went right out to the truck and got the numbers and found #4 on the inside of the waist. It's a two-piece in marvelous condition. Has nearly a flat bottom vs. hollow. I paid way up but it will bring a good price.
Awesome! I’m sure it will bring you many years of joy!
@@TheBarefootForge
He bought it for resale, guys like him are the reason why we need a second mortgage to own a decent one!
@@paulorchard7960 I buy mine for resale, this particular anvil is available to own. I buy and sell about 70 anvils a year, generally buying low and selling at market price once cleaned up and researched.
If you don’t want to keep paying $800 for an anvil I’m buying for $200, stop looking for anvils at the same places as everyone else. There are soooo many anvils out there, and if you’re not finding them…. You’re looking in all the wrong places.
My rent is paid by sourcing anvils, cleaning them up, and increasing their value by showcasing their history- what aspect of my job makes me a terrible person? Is it the preservation of history or the conveying of knowledge? Which aspect of those two should have no value?
Stop driving up the price
Fantastic video! Great work on restoration and research . Such a nice anvil. Thanks for sharing.
Great video!! Learned a lot and definitely gonna do this to my peter wright!!
Definitely clean it up and make it awesome!
@@TheBarefootForge Sure will!! Thanks duder!!
So my Father wanted an Anvil and had been keeping an eye out for one, on our way home from the dump we stopped at a small collectors store where he had a few anvils, my father was looking at them and talking about price. the nicest one was the largest one that was actually outside, the owner decided that as it was late fall to offer my father a deal on the Anvil if he could get it out of the walkway so that the owner did not have to clear around it for the winter. We went home and he discussed it with my mother, who gave permission to buy the anvil the next problem came to getting it home. This is I believe a 450# Peter Wright Anvil that we needed to load into a vehicle by hand we decided the Vanagon had the lowest load level and ability to handle the weight so we headed back to load it up. we did manage to load it from a Dolly into the van but not without leaving a sizeable dent and were fortunate enough to use an engine hoist to unload it and it now lives happily in his Garage.
one guy try to use OSB to run his anvil on a cart...you know what happened...crack and time to rethink that...BTW, you know Craig loves vanagons !
Great Video.....and always......Great WORK!!!!!
Great anvil full of history!
About 150lbs of history! Packed full!
My surname is Budden,im from South Africa.Very interesting article,well done
Excellent!
My new harbor freight 60 pounder has quite the story. Just how i took the red paint off is a novel akin to war and peace. Dressing the edges is like a Christmas carol, and tuning up the bick is like ..:. Well you know
Thanks Craig, learned some interesting info.
Heck ya- it’s full of history!
I’ve got a pretty nice Hay Budden that pulled out of my grandfather barn after banging in it my whole childhood. Wire wheeled it and have been enjoying it. I should take the time to researched its vintage. Maybe some day
Info about cleaning the hardy hole?
Files?
I just found a Trenton anvil in a friend's barn. She said I could have it if I could get it out and into my truck. Done deal. It's in kind of rough shape but I think usable. Could you possibly help me out with some background on it? It's stamped on the foot under the horn with 195 (weight?) and the serial number A100451. It weighed 193 pounds on my scale. I'm curious as to it's date of manufacture and its origin. Thank you in advance for any light you can shed on it. Also, it had a nice ring to it and good rebound at around 95% with a stele ball from one foot. I'm thinking it's a forged type.
We have a hay budden 103 or 183 that my great grandpa traded for 2 pigs back in the day and everyone wanted to take it off my grandpas hands. Being a farm anvil it’s definitely seen it’s use the edges are rolled pretty good but besides that it’s still in good shape with a great ring to it
Thats an absolutely AWESOME story!
Sounds like a great piece of family history and a tool/tools you can love for generations!
Glad to see you're still making videos!
How'd that 3d printing venture work out?
I never quite got the programming down- but I’m taking Bob Claggets “fusion 360 for makers” workshop and hoping I can gain some useful skills and put the tool to use!
Anvil story? I have a rather large German anvil that was from WWII, I am certain. In the deep tapering hardie hole was trapped bits of burned detritis, I was informed by the buyer(hi Josh!)came from a bombed factory. Under the bits of wood, I retrieved a can opener blade blank which exactly matches a German army pocket knife.
My great grandfather was the original owner. I just finally dragged it out from under my dads bench with 50 years of no use and beat on it to get all the scale off and good as new. My neighbors heard every wack😁
That’s awesome!
Everyone has an anvil story, and yours is a great one! I hope you still have it!
Wile E Coyote has many anvil stories. ...They're all tragedies!
I have a nice Hay Budden about that size ive been thinking about selling but it would have to fetch a decent dollar because its a family heirloom..
Don’t sell family heirlooms, that’s a cool thing to have!
My first anvil has to be my favorite, my neighbors inherited it from a friend of theirs, they didn’t know what it was and used it as a weight to hold down a piece of shade cloth. I knew exactly what it was, and begged them for years to sell it to me, eventually one day they called me over and said they wanted to sell, what could I offer them. I was 18 so I didn’t have much, but I scratched together everything i could afford and made them an offer which they accepted. Later as I learned more I found out it was a 167lb mouse hole. Sadly I sold it years later. Nevertheless that little anvil is what started my addiction of buying and fixing anvils.
That's a great tale! You'll enjoy that anvil for years to come!
I have a Hay Budden anvil that I picked up on trade for one of my knives I can’t afford to buy a copy of Dr. postman‘s book if I were to send you some pictures would you be willing to help me identify this beauty
I am not comfortable copying from a book that’s still in print, available, and the value of is established and agreed upon between both of us as containing the knowledge you need for a price that directly benefits the family of the late Richard postman. I would suggest contacting your local library and requesting it- they’ll be thrilled to order in a book for you! Either through inner library exchange or direct purchase at your request. Support your community library and support the author of the book- all at no charge to you.
You asked about rod I use?? Or I think you did. Please forgive my senile mistakes... So- I use 11018 electrode.. They way to apply is more important.. I preheat anvil to 350 degrees Farenheit. Start at one end and run ONLY about an inch to two then go all way to other end and do same.. Keep splitting distances until done.. This keeps excessive heat buildup in any one spot.. I learned this from Bill Apple from up in Seattle. 11018 applied this way winds up with about Rockwell52 which is ideal.. One other bonus is that,for some reason,11018 blends in so well that you can't see where repair was done with all anvils I've put it on.. My friend at Essential Craftsman on You Tube did a nice video on this.. He uses a different rod which gives one options.
it was cool to bounce that bearing on it, was this the one ? "anvils get me excited"...lol
No the one you bounced the ball on was an 1850s era Peter Wright that was uncrated, New, in the 1970s and then lightly used by a body shop since. It's got a remarkable 95% rebound that's unparalleled by any other anvil I've ever come across. That's my baby!
I got a 0 vulcan, 10 pounds very cool
Nice! I’ve owned lots of small Vulcans and tend to find them to be in perfect or near perfect condition, not really sure who bought them or why- but it sure wasn’t to use them! Lol
I'm getting ready to clean up my 145 lb Hay Budden I got 3 years ago for 400.00
I bought a JHM competition anvil for $700, the anvil had only been used once
Nice! Those are great modern anvils and you got a good deal there! I believe modern anvils are better “in general”, but I’m in it for the history, and modern one has no history.
JHM Competitor is a DREAM to work on. I used one at a hammer in about ten years ago. I too have many old ones in my shop but the new anvils are made out of dream steel...
No No No on the weight!! The first number represents 112lbs. the second represents fourths of that so each number represenst28 pounds. the last number is simply pounds..
An anvil in that system that is stamped 122 weighs 170 pounds.. or 112 plus 56 plus 2equals 170 pounds..You need to read more of Mr. Postman... Really nice anvil. Glad you left it alone..I restore anvils for folks but would balk at that one too.. It is nice... Be glad to share what rods I use...
That is not correct for an American made anvil- but is spot on for many (but not all) English anvils.
I would suggest you read up on anvils before giving advice.
What rods should I use?
This anvil sold for $2,700 in the condition shown.
@@TheBarefootForge Wow- I'll check on my Hay Buddens and get back to you. Apologies if I'm wrong. I understood the English system drifted partially ti U.S..
@@TheBarefootForge Owe you a beer! I'm sneaking up on 80 and had a senile citizen moment! Been restoring anvils for decades and beating on them since serving apprenticeship in 1965..
You should check out on FB my anvil museum: Fisher & Norris Factory Museum. You will enjoy what you see.
Oh definitely! Have you bought his book? It’s top quality!
@@TheBarefootForge I bought AIA in 1998 when it was first published. I wrote the "The History of Fisher & Norris" book. Available for sale.
@@joshuakavett4933 well then you and your book is exactly the one I’m mentioning. I have a copy, love it, and I met you this spring and helped you load a few anvils into the back of your truck up the hill at the gathering.
Utube
That’s a cool anvil, ugly as sin but being a transition model you must respect it!
They are the best looking anvil...