Hi All. First, thanks Mark, Nsima, and Andrew. For having me on. I wanted to link the video on my TH-cam where I respond to Layne (th-cam.com/video/yiq67wpUhIs/w-d-xo.html). This wasn't going to be part of the conversation initially, but was not only brought up but highlighted in the opening. Fair enough. Drama sells. Name of the Game. But I think my provides context, if you're curious. It's not my MO to go into attack mode unprovoked. BUT, I have zero tolerance for bullies, and if my input (1) ads value/provides important clarification (2) the "bridge building" option has failed despite my efforts, then I will be "direct." Layne earned the response IMO. You can click the above link and see for yourself. As another exam, I see Mr Stan Efferding active in the comments, who has named me "dishonest" based on his misunderstanding of my arguments and positions. I've tried to clarify and have offered to engage in a long-form exchange. Below, I'm copying my reply. Feel free to assess for yourself if I'm being reasonable. And see if you can understand what Stan has not yet understood by watching the video linked below: "Stan, you're misrepresenting me. I presume this isn't intentional so let me explain: Calories in - Calories Out applies, i.e. thermodynamics holds true. However, that doesn't mean CICO is a pathophysiological model of obesity. CICO can be "true" while being primarily a downstream consequence of a primary disorder of fuel partitioning. Furthermore, CICO can always be post-hoc rationalized by "compensation" e.g. the NEAT to which you refer. You're not contradicting me. You're making my point. In other words, what you present as an inconsistency, I see as not only perfectly logical and consistent but a consequence of looking at obesity through the lens of physiology, rather than arithmetic. I'd be happy to elaborate. I've already offered to have a long-form discussion. If you insist on strawmannirg me, know that it will only serve me. For your education, you can start here: th-cam.com/video/9KbxdzPK8W0/w-d-xo.html" To everyone, know this: I can be a total Care Bear and Cuddle Bug. I prefer not to fight. I don't start fights. I will end them if I need to. That goes for Layne, Stan and anyone else. I leave it to them if they want to give me a chance to be an ally or they want to pick a fight they might regret. Is that a threat? I prefer to frame it as a pragmatism.
Hi Mark and Team! Is there any way we can get a split screen of the guest and hosts, when you guys do a offsite interviewer? I like seeing the reactions and it also just makes the video a bit empty, or like something is hidden. Just a thought! Love the podcast and the information!
I'm happy people are finally seeing how disingenuous Layne is. I had several arguments with him a few years back regarding keto and fasting on his Instagram. I call them arguments because he always degraded the conversation to that level when proven wrong. I think his attitude and appeal to authority are coping mechanisms for lack of intelligence or any information that hurts his ego.
Thank you for bringing Nick on. He is definitely doing an incredible work in the physiology field and he is on a path to a promising future. Hopefully he continues to be diligent and share his knowledge on social media for us learn.
At 48:00 you mention the ketogenic diet and influencers. It is very important to define what is the ketogenic diet. You don't want to contribute to the misinformation. A ketogenic diet is a diet that induces ketosis in a particular person. That is the simple definition - it has nothing to do with the amount of carbs. It is possible for a person not to enter ketosis on a zero carb lean protein diet. I'm one of those examples where I was eating zero carbs and still not entering ketosis. I was NOT on a ketogenic diet on my initial zero carb diet. I had to add a lot more fat to enter ketosis, and when I added fat then my diet was ketogenic for me. There are many influencers that have a special "keto" diet and tell people that ketosis is not a goal of their diet. When people talk about ketogenic diets it's best to focus on the ketones and not on the food. If they want to focus only on the food, just say low-carb.
That is a wrong claim, by saying my dad had a heart attack because my dad had high cholesterol. Is that be main equation or are there much more “risk” equations
LN: Cognitive dissonance was beaten out of me. Also LN: There is nothing inherently wrong with processed food except for [the inherent properties of processed food]. th-cam.com/video/3Q7qRw9j_lQ/w-d-xo.html
The guys to young to full understand everything. Meter analysis pappers aren't worth the paper the written on iv herd. You guys should really have Professor Bart Kay on. He's a trusted book of knowledge like Anthony Chaffee. Two guys i trust 100% 💪
It’s painful how dishonest Nick is. Claims “calories in Calories out” is not relative then describes his response to over feeding by describing an increase in NEAT (non exercise activity thermogenesis) which is part of the energy balance equation (ie Calories in calories out) 🤦♂️
Stan, you're misrepresenting me. I presume this isn't intentional so let me explain: Calories in - Calories Out applies, i.e. thermodynamics holds true. However, that doesn't mean CICO is a pathophysiological model of obesity. CICO can be "true" while being primarily a downstream consequence of a primary disorder of fuel partitioning. Furthermore, CICO can always be post-hoc rationalized by "compensation" e.g. the NEAT to which you refer. You're not contradicting me. You're making my point. In other words, what you present as an inconsistency, I see as not only perfectly logical and consistent but a consequence of looking at obesity through the lens of physiology, rather than arithmetic. I'd be happy to elaborate. I've already offered to have a long-form discussion. If you insist on strawmannirg me, know that it will only serve me. For your education, you can start here: th-cam.com/video/9KbxdzPK8W0/w-d-xo.html
@@MarcosMana-f5s I've offered to speak with Stan in a long-form format. I've be happy to have a calm and civil discussion, or "debate" if he wants to take it that way. I certainly feel his comment misses the mark... per above reply.
That is a wrong claim, by saying my dad had a heart attack because my dad had high cholesterol. Is that be main equation or are there much more “risk” equations
Way more at play. I didn't want to get into the full story on air, but in other podcasts I've explained that Doctors just flat out told my Dad, "you naturally create more cholesterol so you need to avoid it". I'm just going to continue asking questions and trying to learn as much as possible so I don't put my family through that. Thanks for watching the podcast. -Andrew
Some point out that it is a correlation but are open to that LDL may be "firefighters" ( for instance both Bret Scher and Nadir Ali, who both are cardiologists), as comparable that firefighters are seen around fires but they usually don't cause the fire.
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Hi All. First, thanks Mark, Nsima, and Andrew. For having me on. I wanted to link the video on my TH-cam where I respond to Layne (th-cam.com/video/yiq67wpUhIs/w-d-xo.html). This wasn't going to be part of the conversation initially, but was not only brought up but highlighted in the opening. Fair enough. Drama sells. Name of the Game. But I think my provides context, if you're curious. It's not my MO to go into attack mode unprovoked. BUT, I have zero tolerance for bullies, and if my input (1) ads value/provides important clarification (2) the "bridge building" option has failed despite my efforts, then I will be "direct." Layne earned the response IMO. You can click the above link and see for yourself.
As another exam, I see Mr Stan Efferding active in the comments, who has named me "dishonest" based on his misunderstanding of my arguments and positions. I've tried to clarify and have offered to engage in a long-form exchange. Below, I'm copying my reply. Feel free to assess for yourself if I'm being reasonable. And see if you can understand what Stan has not yet understood by watching the video linked below:
"Stan, you're misrepresenting me. I presume this isn't intentional so let me explain: Calories in - Calories Out applies, i.e. thermodynamics holds true. However, that doesn't mean CICO is a pathophysiological model of obesity. CICO can be "true" while being primarily a downstream consequence of a primary disorder of fuel partitioning. Furthermore, CICO can always be post-hoc rationalized by "compensation" e.g. the NEAT to which you refer. You're not contradicting me. You're making my point. In other words, what you present as an inconsistency, I see as not only perfectly logical and consistent but a consequence of looking at obesity through the lens of physiology, rather than arithmetic. I'd be happy to elaborate. I've already offered to have a long-form discussion. If you insist on strawmannirg me, know that it will only serve me. For your education, you can start here: th-cam.com/video/9KbxdzPK8W0/w-d-xo.html"
To everyone, know this: I can be a total Care Bear and Cuddle Bug. I prefer not to fight. I don't start fights. I will end them if I need to. That goes for Layne, Stan and anyone else. I leave it to them if they want to give me a chance to be an ally or they want to pick a fight they might regret. Is that a threat? I prefer to frame it as a pragmatism.
Did an amazing job! will be following your work
I follow everything you post Nick, awesome job.
@@ricksikora7270 Thanks Rick! Very kind.
@@MarcosMana-f5s Cheer Marcos!
Im suffering from very severe ulcerative colitis and im curious to know how much time on keto/carnivore did it take to see some symptom decrease
Absolutely one of the best podcast of the year. Nick Norwitz did an amazing job at explaining everything in a very comprehensible way.
Cheers Marcos! Appreciate you.
Nick is doing a great job on his channel, what I like the most about his content is that he post short videos and explains in a quick and easy way
Glad you enjoy watching. I enjoy making.
Much respect to Nick Norwitz. Truth bombs everywhere. 💣
BOOM
Interesting, intelligent and humble. Awesome listening to Nick on here
Hi Mark and Team! Is there any way we can get a split screen of the guest and hosts, when you guys do a offsite interviewer? I like seeing the reactions and it also just makes the video a bit empty, or like something is hidden. Just a thought! Love the podcast and the information!
Nick, brilliant as always. Glad to see his Growth everywhere. ❤
A scrawny intellectual and two muscular Greek gods learning from one another and teaching me . I love this!
I doubt Attia nor Layne will ever have a debate/discussion with someone of Nick's intellect.
Nick is awesome, one of the few “doctors” (not a medical doctor yet) who actually is honest-he’s trustworthy!!
Thanks Chief.
Nick's bringin' it!
Brought... will continue to bring. ;)
Nicks a cool nerd, great content
Thanks ;) Cool Nerd. Love it!
Could we please get 400 more advertisements
I'm happy people are finally seeing how disingenuous Layne is. I had several arguments with him a few years back regarding keto and fasting on his Instagram. I call them arguments because he always degraded the conversation to that level when proven wrong. I think his attitude and appeal to authority are coping mechanisms for lack of intelligence or any information that hurts his ego.
I friggin love The Power Project! Andre
Thank you for bringing Nick on. He is definitely doing an incredible work in the physiology field and he is on a path to a promising future. Hopefully he continues to be diligent and share his knowledge on social media for us learn.
Cheers Polish Mike :)
Nick is Gold ❤
I really like Nick, he's always spot on
Thanks Tom :)
Layne and Mike Israetel are more proud of having a degree than anyone I’ve ever met. Nobody cares or is impressed that you have a degree.
Sunlight keeps coming up. I personally love getting sun on my skin. Andre
I’m almost addicted to it.
@@theswingmechanic me too mate
My most watched TH-camrs in one video. This is epic
Like Infinity War Level?
@@nicknorwitzPhD yes
Not in RI. They banned us from using out of state labs. And our in-state labs are ignorant and very expensive.
I like the dude. Pretty solid stuff
Thanks my man (woman? person? ... I make no assumptions from the handle)
Great discussion
Layne has been invited by many doctors/professors on YT and he just throws out insults and continues doing his bs
So basically what I got out of these 2 hours is
1. Nobody knows what we should be eating for optimal health and
2. Nobody likes Lame Norton 😅
I like Layne and Nick. It’s possible to hold space for the best of what each person has to offer.
1st comment hell ya !!!!! Great job as always fellas
At 48:00 you mention the ketogenic diet and influencers. It is very important to define what is the ketogenic diet. You don't want to contribute to the misinformation. A ketogenic diet is a diet that induces ketosis in a particular person. That is the simple definition - it has nothing to do with the amount of carbs. It is possible for a person not to enter ketosis on a zero carb lean protein diet. I'm one of those examples where I was eating zero carbs and still not entering ketosis. I was NOT on a ketogenic diet on my initial zero carb diet. I had to add a lot more fat to enter ketosis, and when I added fat then my diet was ketogenic for me. There are many influencers that have a special "keto" diet and tell people that ketosis is not a goal of their diet. When people talk about ketogenic diets it's best to focus on the ketones and not on the food. If they want to focus only on the food, just say low-carb.
Isn't Cholesterol used for repair? if so wouldn't it be higher if damage from high blood sugar is lower?
Great question 42 minutes in by Andrew.
Dr Norwitz, Metabolic Army!!! Andre
That is a wrong claim, by saying my dad had a heart attack because my dad had high cholesterol.
Is that be main equation or are there much more “risk” equations
I could easily eat a full pack of Oreos daily. But I had to stop that 🤣😂.
Big prices with EMR TEK but man they look good! Andre
nick is the man🦾🔥
Except WE ALL HAVE RISING LDL. ALL ALL ALL OF US. If we exercise triglycerides go down and HDL goes up & ratio is good BUT LDL ALWAYS GOES UP. 100%
Layne clearly has a conflict of interest with keto
I wonder if exogenous ketones can be used as hdac inhibitors to sensitize leptin again
25:58 hit it on the nail
Very little about Keto and a lot about the drama with Layne and cholesterol. Felt misled by the title it borders on clickbait.
Come on guys, it’s food lol. Are we really trading third grade level potshots over it 😂 Be big boys now
LN: Cognitive dissonance was beaten out of me.
Also LN: There is nothing inherently wrong with processed food except for [the inherent properties of processed food].
th-cam.com/video/3Q7qRw9j_lQ/w-d-xo.html
20:30
The guys to young to full understand everything. Meter analysis pappers aren't worth the paper the written on iv herd. You guys should really have Professor Bart Kay on. He's a trusted book of knowledge like Anthony Chaffee. Two guys i trust 100% 💪
What is with nsimas glasses?
Blue light blocking glasses from EMR Tek
@@MarkBellsPowerProjectsomething brought up on many of the commercial breaks haha
59:15 literally
Yea I skip those
It’s painful how dishonest Nick is. Claims “calories in Calories out” is not relative then describes his response to over feeding by describing an increase in NEAT (non exercise activity thermogenesis) which is part of the energy balance equation (ie Calories in calories out) 🤦♂️
Stan, you're misrepresenting me. I presume this isn't intentional so let me explain: Calories in - Calories Out applies, i.e. thermodynamics holds true. However, that doesn't mean CICO is a pathophysiological model of obesity. CICO can be "true" while being primarily a downstream consequence of a primary disorder of fuel partitioning. Furthermore, CICO can always be post-hoc rationalized by "compensation" e.g. the NEAT to which you refer. You're not contradicting me. You're making my point. In other words, what you present as an inconsistency, I see as not only perfectly logical and consistent but a consequence of looking at obesity through the lens of physiology, rather than arithmetic. I'd be happy to elaborate. I've already offered to have a long-form discussion. If you insist on strawmannirg me, know that it will only serve me. For your education, you can start here: th-cam.com/video/9KbxdzPK8W0/w-d-xo.html
@@nicknorwitzPhDcalm down, betchh. It's not that serious of an accusation. You're going to be OKAY
If thats the way you feel instead of calling him out in the comment section, you should have a podcast with him and debate him
@@MarcosMana-f5s I've offered to speak with Stan in a long-form format. I've be happy to have a calm and civil discussion, or "debate" if he wants to take it that way. I certainly feel his comment misses the mark... per above reply.
Stan I think we all would love to hear the two of you together on a podcast discussing these topics.
That is a wrong claim, by saying my dad had a heart attack because my dad had high cholesterol.
Is that be main equation or are there much more “risk” equations
Way more at play. I didn't want to get into the full story on air, but in other podcasts I've explained that Doctors just flat out told my Dad, "you naturally create more cholesterol so you need to avoid it". I'm just going to continue asking questions and trying to learn as much as possible so I don't put my family through that. Thanks for watching the podcast. -Andrew
@@MarkBellsPowerProject I really am surprised when my thoughts are replied to. Thank you 😊
Some point out that it is a correlation but are open to that LDL may be "firefighters" ( for instance both Bret Scher and Nadir Ali, who both are cardiologists), as comparable that firefighters are seen around fires but they usually don't cause the fire.
@@johannas.l.brushane2518 well that’s common sense, what are the plaques doing? They are mending damage so the cause is the damage not the mending