Ayyy I’m really happy with your content because I’m Hungarian and Mongolian so watching both of your videos make me feel good. I’m here in America and there aren’t many Hungarians or Mongolians.
I've made one out of thin plywood and used it for field archery on foot. I found it very convenient for walking through a wood - no arrows sticking out getting caught on branches, etc. Also good in pouring rain (as it is often here in England). You just have to attach two straps to it - one at the top and one about half way down, both attached to your belt in different places. That way you can adjust the angle of the quiver to make the arrows easier to pull out and to stop the quiver banging into your legs as you walk. The only down side I found is that the arrows rattle a bit as you walk. There is some historical evidence that a tassel was used to stuff in to the top to stop the rattling.
cumanstyle quiver, fun fact the viking "warrior-queen" burial in Birka actually had rests of a cumanstyle quiver in it. Armin hirmer have a few vids about cuman style quivers. I have even made one myself out of a long cardboardbox. the combination of the cuman quiver, drawing three arrows at the same time, and holding the arrows as the so called ottoman "wolverine claw" grip, makes it pretty efficient from horseback and speed shooting.
I assume it's also a riding quiver, which more than justifies the sturdy, bulkiness of it- being jostled around on horseback, even at a canter, might damage the arrows you're carrying.
@@Max-sc4yn You're correct, it's for riding but nowadays we use leather even for horse archery. These are made for war and not suitable for hobby and sport, we use leather quivers instead.
The length of the quiver depends on the length of your arrows so I suggest ordering one, giving your measurements, if you want one. I ordered mine here: m.facebook.com/Magyar-tegez-108685894031339/?ref=page_internal&mt_nav=0 It weighs about 1.5 kg. There are more and more of us (Hungarain archers) using it again. I love it, especially when I do mounted archery.
The style is the same but we (Hungarians) used it way before the Cumans joined us. They were Nomad steppe horsemen just like us, we used very similar tools.
Some of the wandering Hungarians also settled near the Volga and mixed with the locals. And their quiver was like that even then. Those found in old graves were also of this type. Of course, it is also true that this type of quiver was used by many peoples. The Cumans joined the Magyars 3 centuries later when they were already in Europe. Although there may have been a minor mix-up before. The time when they assimilated into the hungarians, the Hungarians using Mongolian quivers, which were already made of leather.
If you want one, you can order here: m.facebook.com/Magyar-tegez-108685894031339/?ref=page_internal&mt_nav=0 His name is Kulcsár Norbert (Norber is his first name). I can give you his phone number but I'm not sure he speaks English.
Another Hungarian archer here. We do use it. More and more of us. I know at least 50 people, including myself. Whereabouts in the country are you? Why don't you come and see some of us here: Magyar Tegezek Találkozója facebook.com/photo/?fbid=2787179594933802&set=a.1797945190523919
That this type of quiver was used by many peoples. Some of the wandering Hungarians also settled near the Volga and mixed with the locals. And their quiver was like that even then. Those found in old graves were also of this type.
Broad heads you would cut your finger on them surely? ...the pushing the bow forward after shooting why do you do this...riding a horse you'd hit it in the head shooting forward? ..plus the arrow has gone completely so why push bow forward ???
@@neilbrooks127 Mongols were not the only horse archers in history :). Khatra was used mainly by Turks, Koreans and Japanese. In theory it helps to have clean release, higher arrow speed and hence - better aim. Some agree that it helps some don't. The point is that its perfectly correct to perform khatra while shooting. You don't have to do it, but there is nothing wrong if you do and its historically correct.
@@wojciechm.5737 really helps ..if you look at it in slow mo...the arrow has left the bow and gone ...before archer does the bo forward thing ....and don't see Japanese horse archers doing it or Turks doing it on horse back
@@wojciechm.5737 Higher arrow speed nope that is rubbish ...I have seen it debunked using a chronograph arrow speed check ..both arrows did same speed with and with kshittra lol ...
Actually, thats a CUMAN quiver, turcic nomadic peoples wich inhabited a shifting area north of the Black Sea and along the Volga known as Cumania. They where expelled by mongols after 1237, and comes to Hungary asking for asilum, where they were cristianised... No offense!
Some of the wandering Hungarians also settled near the Volga and mixed with the locals. And their quiver was like that even then. Those found in old graves were also of this type. Of course, it is also true that this type of quiver was used by many peoples. But Hungarians also lived along the Volga. Smaller groups broke off countless times during the migration. A lot of Hungarians and Pechenegs also lived in Cumania. When the Mongols came, the Hungarians started using their quivers, which were already made of leather.
Ayyy I’m really happy with your content because I’m Hungarian and Mongolian so watching both of your videos make me feel good. I’m here in America and there aren’t many Hungarians or Mongolians.
My buddy is hungarian. He was born in Budapest. He lives in denver
I've made one out of thin plywood and used it for field archery on foot. I found it very convenient for walking through a wood - no arrows sticking out getting caught on branches, etc. Also good in pouring rain (as it is often here in England). You just have to attach two straps to it - one at the top and one about half way down, both attached to your belt in different places. That way you can adjust the angle of the quiver to make the arrows easier to pull out and to stop the quiver banging into your legs as you walk. The only down side I found is that the arrows rattle a bit as you walk. There is some historical evidence that a tassel was used to stuff in to the top to stop the rattling.
Nice thanks for showing.
cumanstyle quiver, fun fact the viking "warrior-queen" burial in Birka actually had rests of a cumanstyle quiver in it. Armin hirmer have a few vids about cuman style quivers. I have even made one myself out of a long cardboardbox. the combination of the cuman quiver, drawing three arrows at the same time, and holding the arrows as the so called ottoman "wolverine claw" grip, makes it pretty efficient from horseback and speed shooting.
Birka means sheep in hungarian
@@petmop1309 Birka in this case is a the name of the town on an island called björkö, birch island, Birka is oldnorse for birchtree
@@marcusfridh8489 thanks
Nice seeing you looking better Nu. Keep up the good work!
Thanks I'm looking for a good quiver to go with my bow. Would you suggest any.
I suggest you check out his video where he talks about different kinds of quivers. I think that would really help with your decision in buying one
@@danielfassler8900 Thanks I will check it out :)
That’s the best setup for survival in a Europe theater 🎭
Looks like a decent quiver to have but being it sturdy and all, I'd imagine it also being quite a hassle to walk around with.
I assume it's also a riding quiver, which more than justifies the sturdy, bulkiness of it- being jostled around on horseback, even at a canter, might damage the arrows you're carrying.
@@Max-sc4yn You're correct, it's for riding but nowadays we use leather even for horse archery. These are made for war and not suitable for hobby and sport, we use leather quivers instead.
Im going to make one similar now
The length of the quiver depends on the length of your arrows so I suggest ordering one, giving your measurements, if you want one. I ordered mine here: m.facebook.com/Magyar-tegez-108685894031339/?ref=page_internal&mt_nav=0 It weighs about 1.5 kg. There are more and more of us (Hungarain archers) using it again. I love it, especially when I do mounted archery.
Hey, just wondering, why are you pulling the bow string below the nock and not one finger above and 2 below? Is it a different style of archery?
It´s called a thumb draw, common in asiatic archery. Search for "thumb draw archery"
@@johnloov thanks
As I know ,it is a cuman style quiver who's assimilated into the hungarian tribes
The style is the same but we (Hungarians) used it way before the Cumans joined us. They were Nomad steppe horsemen just like us, we used very similar tools.
Some of the wandering Hungarians also settled near the Volga and mixed with the locals. And their quiver was like that even then. Those found in old graves were also of this type. Of course, it is also true that this type of quiver was used by many peoples. The Cumans joined the Magyars 3 centuries later when they were already in Europe. Although there may have been a minor mix-up before. The time when they assimilated into the hungarians, the Hungarians using Mongolian quivers, which were already made of leather.
That thing that you do after you fire your Arrow, why do that?
Chinese used similar one around 6 century called 胡禄。
Thanks a lot for giving the name! I was aware this kind Chinese quiver existed and I've been searching for the name for ages!
I feel like i need one of these...dont have a bow yet buuuutt
Don't get one. I'm Hungarian and I can assure you that no one uses these. They are made for war, so they aren't practical nowadays.
@@djwaltoaram7052 Stop saying that. We do use them, especially when we do mounted arhcery.
What quiver is that @ 2:07
Take a look at this: th-cam.com/video/_-S5OyceKd0/w-d-xo.html
More info about magyar horse archers here: th-cam.com/video/TZj5LGJr_Iw/w-d-xo.html
Do you have any other contact info besides facebook for the maker?
If you want one, you can order here: m.facebook.com/Magyar-tegez-108685894031339/?ref=page_internal&mt_nav=0 His name is Kulcsár Norbert (Norber is his first name). I can give you his phone number but I'm not sure he speaks English.
@@krisztinavanya6499 thanks but I dont have a facebook
@@Balaclavaballistics Here's his email address: kulcsar_norbert@freemail.hu
And he is also on Pinterest: hu.pinterest.com/kulcsar_norbert/_saved/
@@krisztinavanya6499 köszönöm
@@Balaclavaballistics Nagyon szívesen :-)
Hungarian archer here, no one uses these. They are too heavy and bulky, they were used by horse archers back in the day, but now its all leather.
Another Hungarian archer here. We do use it. More and more of us. I know at least 50 people, including myself. Whereabouts in the country are you? Why don't you come and see some of us here: Magyar Tegezek Találkozója facebook.com/photo/?fbid=2787179594933802&set=a.1797945190523919
it looks like the quiver used by cumans
Because hungarians and cumans had far genetical cousinhood, and close culture
That this type of quiver was used by many peoples. Some of the wandering Hungarians also settled near the Volga and mixed with the locals. And their quiver was like that even then. Those found in old graves were also of this type.
Very bulky., seems like it would be a hassle to use.
Broad heads you would cut your finger on them surely? ...the pushing the bow forward after shooting why do you do this...riding a horse you'd hit it in the head shooting forward? ..plus the arrow has gone completely so why push bow forward ???
It's called Khatra.
@@wojciechm.5737 and why do it 😕 Mongolian don't do this on 🐎 back ?
@@neilbrooks127 Mongols were not the only horse archers in history :). Khatra was used mainly by Turks, Koreans and Japanese. In theory it helps to have clean release, higher arrow speed and hence - better aim. Some agree that it helps some don't. The point is that its perfectly correct to perform khatra while shooting. You don't have to do it, but there is nothing wrong if you do and its historically correct.
@@wojciechm.5737 really helps ..if you look at it in slow mo...the arrow has left the bow and gone ...before archer does the bo forward thing ....and don't see Japanese horse archers doing it or Turks doing it on horse back
@@wojciechm.5737 Higher arrow speed nope that is rubbish ...I have seen it debunked using a chronograph arrow speed check ..both arrows did same speed with and with kshittra lol ...
In 2021 go back to war thunder and make some vids grinding the chinese line (only a suggest, i know now your hobby is archery)
First one lol
First five comnent
Actually, thats a CUMAN quiver, turcic nomadic peoples wich inhabited a shifting area north of the Black Sea and along the Volga known as Cumania. They where expelled by mongols after 1237, and comes to Hungary asking for asilum, where they were cristianised... No offense!
Magyar quivers are basically of identical type look up the Karos Cemetery quiver many peoples used this design, not just one.
Some of the wandering Hungarians also settled near the Volga and mixed with the locals. And their quiver was like that even then. Those found in old graves were also of this type. Of course, it is also true that this type of quiver was used by many peoples. But Hungarians also lived along the Volga. Smaller groups broke off countless times during the migration. A lot of Hungarians and Pechenegs also lived in Cumania. When the Mongols came, the Hungarians started using their quivers, which were already made of leather.