To what end? It is the fairy tale of a man debunking the fairy tales told him when he was a student in college. They are all fairy tales from the mouths of men and of no value. They are distractions, diversions from life.
@@TheRootedWord This presentation may not be for you, but your opinion does not apply to others. For most of us here, it is not a distraction or diversion, but furthering our understanding of the past. There must be people in every society who researches and keeps a record of the past. A world without people like this Professor (and his colleagues) and his lust for the truth and understanding about our world's history would be akin to some of what he talks about - things that are forgotten (and having to be re-learned later). We would not learn anything because we would forget everything that got us here in the first place. Without knowing and understanding the past we are doomed to make the same mistakes going forward. Knowing the history of past cultures and people of the world gives us perspective and many people have a wanton need to know this history. There is a famous quote, I believe is was Cornel West, who said something like, "You can't really move forward until you look back." It would take a lot longer for mankind to move forward if he does not embrace the history of the past. Mankind might even reach a point in the future where mankind can go no further because we think the past is irrelevant.
I dont. I have been a history student my whole life, and I was a psychology major in college. Our liberal arts colleges can not even teach semi accurate twentieth century history. Now we have marauding young zombies screaming about a system that they have no actual knowledge of, and worshiping evil, racist, sociopaths like marx, Trotsky, and Lenin. If we dont stomp it out soon, we will see our collapse also.
@@usefulidiots3970 We also have the complicating factor of critical infrastructure that is capable of instantaneous widespread failure. At least failure propagation back then took months or years. Today, it can take seconds.
Around 38 minutes in, he mentions a woman sheltering in a doorframe during an earthquake. If you know to do that, it is because you're part of a group that has seen a lot of earthquakes. That's not an intuitive move. In other words, this is not evidence of _an_ earthquake. It is evidence of many earthquakes.
They assume she was sheltering, she could have been rushing either inside or outside and got struck, but it also means her body was not buried, instead was left where it fell, which on its own indicates the city was abandoned immediately, but in that case I would expect the body to have been dragged and scattered by scavengers (creatures), so I don't buy what they are saying at all based on the interpretation of that body alone.
@@_John_P no it doesn't mean that her body wasn't burried. The fact they found the body at all is proof scavengers couldn't get to her. It's not prove the place was immediately abandoned. I think its more likely that nobody found her in the rubble and just like with the dinosaurs, the soil became her tomb
@@RichardsNickname People reuse stones, any pile of ruble would have been taken eventually to build walls or other structures elsewhere, exposing the remains, unless the place was abandoned and forgotten.
This is the second of his presentations I have viewed. He knows his subject. He does not have to refer to notes. He knows his names and his dates. He is clearly a professional in every sense of the word. He knows the names in his field, the state of current digs and research. When I get a chance, I am getting his book. I’m also searching for any videos on this take on Exodus. Most of all, he’s funny and relaxed.
He's a great presenter but he's probably given this talk on his book a million times. Referring to your notes is essential for historians because there's so many gd facts and dates.
The reasons his presentation is smooth are 1) he has excellent long term memory and 2) he is well practiced from decades of reciting to students. Excellent professors could almost give their standard lectures in their sleep. That is no insult. It comes with the job.
He is a fine lecturer, but what he says is an opinion set, hardly more than 140 years old. To pass his course, indeed all of this opinion must be followed... or you will fail the course. But his thoughts are countered by many other enquiring people today. And the truth? The pharaoh he calls 'Rameses III, in 1177 BC', is really a much later famous monarch called Apries by Greek authors and Khophra by a Hebrew prophet. And he was alive and well in the lifetimes of Jeremiah, Plato, Thales of Miletes and Zedekiah, the last king of Judah. This pharaoh famously sailed his fleet to Cyprus, defeated the Cypriot fleet and then conquered the island itself. He used the captured booty to build some nice monuments back home in Egypt. After that, the entire eastern Mediterranean region was ravaged by the Babylonian tide.
@Valentina Valley Destroying enemy cities and expelling and even eradicating entire populations was, sadly, not uncommon in the Ancient Era: the Assyrians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Greeks/Macedonians, Hebrews, Huns, Romans, and barbarian tribes all practiced this to varying degrees. However, this mostly wasn't "genocide" as it's understood post WW2, but rather an often merciless waging of total war against enemy states and their peoples, and the savagery unleashed by a victorious army upon a defeated enemy after suffering large losses in combat. This has been seen throughout history, including WW2 after the Nazi German state was conquered and its people, especially in the eastern areas under Soviet control, were subjected to mass rape, brutality, reprisal killings and a limited form of "ethnic cleansing" from ancient German(ic) lands. All of this occurred as revenge for the previous 3-4 years of atrocities, mass rape and murder (and genocide of Jews &c) inflicted upon Soviet POWs and subjugated people in conquered areas of the USSR, during "Operation Barbarossa" (some of which acts were actually "genocide" as considered in the post-WW2 context).
As a layperson untrained in archeology, this is utterly fascinating -- particularly the numerous parallels that can be drawn between 3200 years ago and now. We have a lot still to learn from the ancient world.
the point ov history is to learn from it. but the way sociaty uses it i think it may be best to use history as a playbill. as in 'OH a global pandimic... yep leads to food and fuel resource loss and panic in smaller countries.... rome fell to less. LETS GO COVID/SHRI LANKA!!"
What's fascinating about the bronze age collapse is that it was a complete apocalypse for most of the world. An extinction of society never before seen.
Fake! Those people with families were refugees of the invasions of Sea Peoples. Also the depictions (of those invasion wars) depicts (and not only in Egypt) all kind of people which were all involved in these wars and migrations, are NOT all the infamous Sea Peoples, but ALL peoples involved in these wars, the autochton victims, plus the invaders). Many fake info (and all based on BS and infantile speculations) is today being purposely spread allover Media concerning the Sea Peoples, but the real informations, based on real proof (also thoroughly documented by the greatest history investigator of all times, Dinu Costel Linta aka "DCL" or "LCD") exists allready, about WHO were the Sea Peoples, documented also by the Egyptian tablets (as well as the Babylonian ones), and even by this very guy in this clip, but when he was younger, sane and incoruptibile, in another clip (See "The Colaps of the Bronze Age Civilisation" documentary on youtube, about the "Sea People", the perpetual killers of the human race, who they are/were: th-cam.com/video/MjuZjHpxUWQ/w-d-xo.html ), long before he was hansomly paid by the Sea Peoples of today (who owes the Media, the banks etc.) to divert the atention from them (the descendents of the Sea Peoples), to other cheap fairytales for weak minds (as a sane person sees through it right away), as the comediant type speculations in this clip shows.
Very good lecture. After years of history classes and reading history books this in perhaps one of the best explanations of what took place in this area. Thank you. I really enjoyed listening to you. And, yes, history does repeat itself and those who refuse to learn history are destined to re-learn it, i.e. “us today”.
An ancient historian friend once claimed that I, who study modern U.S. history, have access to more information on any one YEAR in the 1930s than he does to ALL of antiquity. I doubted his claim -- at first. Then I thought about all the books, magazines, and newspapers I could get in one way/form or another from, say, 1937. Then I moved on to art and popular culture sources: paintings, photography, illustrations, sculptures, movies, radio show recordings, music recordings, sheet music, comic books, etc., etc., and then all the manuscripts sources in archives: diaries, letters, oral histories, and so much more. Yup, he had less than that from thousands of years of the ancient world. Amazing that we can piece together what we have to create anything like a coherent story.
Karen Houser the Actual Academic Art world- around the world, tho lib, is loosing our shit. Iconoclasm is our cross! Burning books and toppling democratic symbols has never gone well historically. Out side of click bait and media prompts there is massive legislative power working to restore history for fear its further white washed. Heritage monuments will be restored to higher glory and their importance in public space every more honored. Toppling monuments is a crime against humanity, so internationally defended against, not just our nation; its part of media (art=1st amendment control) consciousness suppression, dare I say wafting with Marxism.
He knows so well what he wants to communicate, how to spend the time allotted. So many lecturers are hampered by narrow thinking, like being slaves of their own powerpoints.
Many that I have listened to in the past on similar subjectsI didn't continue to listen to as the lecturer was boring and uninspiring. This guy not only knew what he was talking about was also quite entertaining making the topic interesting, and as a result I listened to it all and learned a great deal. Well done!
But just think of all the CO² output with chariots running about all over the place......No wonder with all the modern chariots.....History does repeat itself....
Husband: OH SO YOU'RE JUST GONNA IGNORE THE DESTRUCTION LAYERS AT HISARLIK? Wife: YOU KEEP USING THAT TONE WITH ME AND I'LL SHOW YOU A NEW KIND OF DESTRUCTION LAYER
When I was at school (60's) History was taught as elements on a Line - battle dates, death of kings etc. Later it was looked upon as elements within a Square. Now, and especially with this excellent lecturer, it is a Cube full of moving, interacting elements.
I was in school in the 70s-80s (SE Europe) and I did Ancient history in grade 5 and 9 (high school), medieval history grade 6 and 10, modern history grade 7 and 11, and. national history (from ancient times to modern) in grade 8 and 12. So we learned about Egyptians and their ancient kingdoms, Phoenicians, Persia, Greece, Roman empire and others around. My son, in Canada in the 2010s, did almost nothing at history, except from the 1812 war.
I once had a prof who taught modern history. He taught it n reverse, so our 20th century were so much easier to understand when I was shown how western culture in the 19th undermined near and middle eastern culture. Not to mention the far east. Which shows so much about even our lives to this day.
It's better to learn history as a timeline. One needs to know the basic facts of when and where before the discussion of the why can be had. It also takes too long to have the discussion about the debate of why something happened because there is rarely a consensus about the why. Add discussion of the why for each event and you would rarely get beyond a few events during a semester. The why needs to be confined to advanced courses or books if you want to explore a particular event.
Actually I think he looks more like Sigi Schmid (former coach of the Galaxy) than Captain Kangaroo. But I agree, while this is not my favorite period in history, he made it interesting enough that I watched until the end and was actually disappointed that the lecture was over. Very well done.
Dr. Eric Cline. I listen to youtube lectures and debates to help me sleep. This one kept me up. I'm doing it again, this time watching it. Hats down to you, sir
I always regretted that the Bronze age was skipped entirely in my world history class. It was mentioned for about 3 seconds and then suddenly jumped to the golden ages of ancient Greek and Rome. I thought that era was just as interesting as the renaissance period.
Many ages got rushed so fast in my old school in Germany. The second world war was the biggest and looongest topic. So long, that nobody was anymore interested in my class in that. I couldn't care less now about all the nazi things. That happens when you force the students to read and read and learn and learn for so long about one topic. I could puke about the history lessons.
@@heffalumptarkin1384 history is written by the winner. if you stop the antinazi propaganda for a second, one might start to question eradicating german civilians and dropping nukes on woman and children.
More people would learn about the Bronze Age if milestone wedding anniversaries (10, 25,50,75) had gifts tied to various ages. Digital age would be the last one, so whatever is current is good for a gift.
@@humphrex - Boo, f*cking hoo. Nazis killed millions of Russians. Stalin killed tens of millions. Now Putin is looking to restart the process. Whining about the West? Really? Look at the scale of killing before even mentioning nukes. More people died from ethnic cleansing than ever died from nukes.
The teachers don't know anything about it. They could make it relatable by watching the movie "Troy." And say, THESE people. We're talking about these people." There are other things from popular culture. Knowing Bible stories is essential. All sorts of exotic peoples and cultures that lived in the Bronze Age
The great lesson of history is that its never THAT simple. As our society increasingly craves simple answers that might be the most important lesson to be learned.
the great lesson here is the middle east is not humanities cradle of civilization , its the cradle of in humane beliefs and acts of genocide , nothing about the middle east or Mediterranean are civilized.
Great lecture. The Mayans of South America inherited the belief that time was circular...(thus the Mayan calandar) and that you can forsee the future by looking at the past. They described the rise and fall of nations as "Great Ages" even incorporating the stars as signs of things to come. Interesting that a people halfway around the globe had such knowledge of the world so long ago!
It’s interesting to note that this also relates to events that were happening in the Orkney Islands during the same period. Before circa 1,500 BC we had community burials at sites such as Orkahaugr and The Tomb of the Eagles, and large building projects such as the Standing Stones and the Brodgar Complex. Once we pass that date, there is a huge shift from these practices with more simple burials in cist graves, and a lack of large building projects. When we reach the 1,000 BC point, we then see the return of a more structured society with the beginning of the Broch Builders time...
Sounds like a massive volcano that erupted and people moved from the north to the Mediterranean coast. Southern coast of France and later Sardinia and Sicily. Maybe the Sardinians and Sicilians moved east due to the massive influx of people from the north. Hence where the Sea people came from. There is evidence that a massive volcano in Iceland erupted at this time.
Activity at the Neolithic Orkney structures and tombs, and most of their equivalents further south, including Stonehenge and Silbury Hill ceased quite suddenly around 2,300 BC. This coincided with the arrival of beaker culture and migrants into Britain from the east and the start of the Bronze Age (in Britain). Therefore there is a gap of about 1,000 years between the Orkney civilisation and the events in the Mediterranean, although these might have had some knock-on effect on Britain in the late Bronze Age?
@STEVEN CHARLTON Hello, and Thanks. I am interested in this 'weather/geology related' topics about the past - but as I am no professional and this topic is not yet well established in our land, I find it hard to find some info. :-)
to look at him, you would never think he could be capable of such charisma. this guy is easily one of the top 3 educators ive ever seen. absolutely nailed this topic and perfectly delivered the info while keeping it very interesting and entertaining.
thats what i thought sorry ass troll. at least jesus loves you. this i know. know why? the bible told me so. may the lord bless you and free you from your misery. love you man.
Amazing, thoughtful presentation. As a student of ancient near eastern civilizations, this brings things together for me in a cogent and careful way that I really appreciated.
Your comment will not age well I think just as those predicting collapse in 2020. I know it's a good joke but I preffer jokes that have basis on reality.
@@Game_Hero as was discussed in the lecture, collapse happens over a century, not in a single year. So as 1177 is used as a short hand so could too be 2021.
I'm gonna have to carry a marker with me so I can write "The sea peoples were here!" as a sort of history enthusiast's Kilroy. ;) Fantastic stuff. Thank you.
@@adrianseanheidmann4559 Seeing as the tone has already been lowered: Who is the most virile man in the world?.... Santa Clause; he only comes once a year, but when he does he fills your stockings!....
Wonderful interesting talk I use to be involved in archeology and did a ten year study in China. 12,000 BC to 500BC. Why does everyone never talk or mentions ancient China. They where very advanced at one point but then every thing seemed to collapsed and eventually started back up all over again. Don’t forget the fact that all the oceans where 400 feet lower back then. Many people traveled all over by foot from continent to continent more than by boat.
twothreebravo whats stopping you ? I'd go listen just for the band name. Better than "Your Wife is Backstage" Almost as good as "Free Beer and the Your Wifes not Here." w/ opener "The Nymphos"
Absolutely loved this and am going to find the book. One thing I’d elaborate on is of the points that we still face now, “Greek economy tanks” isn’t as relevant today, I’d suggest the probable global recession we’re heading into will basically be the equivalent for current times.
"Be careful who you write to - you may know him..." This was an really entertaining lecture which I am really enjoying even as english is not my first language. Good work!
I don't think it's easy to present a lecture to an audiance in an interesting way and requires a good deal of effort. Eventually not all lecturers are willing to put that effort into their presentations, obviously. This one here is really a gem and I am actually looking on yt if he has some other lectures online :)
1178 BC is the year of the eclipse mentioned in Homer's Odyssey. The consensus sacking of Homer's Troy was in 1184 BC. That Greek oral tradition seems to emphasize this decade suggests the significance of this time period in Mediterranean cultures.
M. Ygr. You can’t say that civilation began from Greek cause the hole scructure of lies will collapse.I have read that even Maori have similarities with ancient Spartans that has Rasta hair,or white people with maiandros in japan and in polenysia.
@@ΜιχΛαζ The Red Hair and Blue Eyes of the Maoris came from North African Berber people displaced by the movement of people from the middle east as they expanded west. They crossed the Atlantic, settled Central America and then kept going west into the Pacific mingling with other races and ending up in New Zealand! One of the reasons why the Americans were taken aback by the arrival of the Spanish because they were expecting further visitors as they were told others would follow!
Four years later...but so glad I found this or TH-cam recommended it to me, anyway I rarely enjoy these lectures but this one had me from the start!! I would pay to hear this guy talk! Thank you sir!!
An excellent lecture from Father Ted Crilly. I've watched this lecture 3 or 4 times since it was posted on youtube and it is as interesting and engaging now as it was the first time.
really what i think is that if we knew what happened in a short period of time (quick knowledge) we would have a lot of misunderstaning, new cults (like flatearthers etc. ) wars ,religious things (even if we knew that religion is a fantasy ) and other things like that ....you catch the point ..and most of all we would not hear the truth before it would appear on every platform from every big leader...we would consider that another propaganda .
I loved the video, but his analysis in the end ("ISIS as the Sea People", "There is famine") is unfortunately a bit misleading. That collapse in antiquity was so devastating because it hit the leading civilizations of the day, what he call the "G7 of the Bronze Age". Today's Middle East might be at the center of world news, but it is not in terms of the world economy. Now the Corona situation might come closer. If the outbreak in the US becomes much worse and reaches a point where it threatens the stability of society. But I remind you, that would mean a death toll high enough to permanently disrupt how the country operates, e.g. a breakdown of electricity because there are no engineers left to operate the power plants. Thankfully, they are far from there yet and (fortunately) very likely won't reach that point, despite the very tragic (and unnecessary) toll the virus had so far. Let's continue our scenario: in November, Trump does not accept his defeat and calls his supporters to march on Washington. Courtesy to the 2nd Amendment, a civil war breaks out. Needless to say, the subsequent collapse of the US Dollar and of global trade would send serious ripples across the globe. A complete parallel failure of the wheat harvests in Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Canada and the US over several years. Now if we, on top of that, have say a complete and violent breakdown of the EU, full USSR-style, devastating Earthquake in China and an abrupt end of oil supplies from the whole Middle East (all out war between Saudi-Arabia and Iran?) Maybe a nuclear war There are a lot of ifs and a lot of small probabilities there. It's not as unthinkable as we would like it to be and even on their own, many of these events would be devastating. But reaching the level of perfect storm that wiped Myceans, Minoans, Assyrian, Hethites and all the others as civilizations is quite another level.
@@maibws9170 That was the point. Sea peoples were not from the bronze-G9, they were a backwater... like the Middle East is today. And we won't need several years worth of famine, we only have around 60 days worth of food supply, globally. We're much more efficient, and unwilling to pay for insurance (stored food, etc), so we're going to have to sacrifice people. Which we're doing, only a 60-80,000 so far - but we're just getting started.
There's not too much reason to worry yet. These collapses take decades of ruinous events. No matter how bad the media portrays events today (because they make money by drumming up the news), things used to be worse. The numbers are grim, but it's good to have perspective. Coronavirus has killed 370,000 people, and will probably hit 1.5 million deaths. So, about as bad as the yearly deaths from Malaria or car crashes. Meanwhile, the "Spanish Flu" killed somewhere between 20-50 million people, and it happened at the same time as the "Great War" which also killed over 20 million people, and was followed by the Great Depression where nearly half the banks failed, international trade fell by 65%, a quarter of Americans were unemployed. And that still didn't cause a Systems Collapse.
why? cos ppl are keept in stupidity and tey are trained to be stupid ! do you thin elite belive in jesus and this bulshit? they know religion is old as fuck and its to make slaves... spirituality is something different its like be smart and inteligent.. similar but not the same...
Robert S. I wish all teachers had the opportunity to talk about this subject. It’s easy to talk well about something you love. Not all of us are given that opportunity.
Excellent historical presentation! This is why I have always loved the story of history! Research backed by evidence and continued speculation. Well done!
Très bien informé, étayé, cohérent et en plus Mr Cline est agréable à écouter. Et le sujet est d'actualité, c'est le moins qu'on puisse dire - et aucune chance qu'on trouve ça dans les mainstream. Merci beaucoup pour ces informations et pour la qualité de la prestation.
When he talks about only 1% being able to read or write, I have to wonder if the huge increases that we've seen over the last couple hundred years correlate directly with the democratization of literacy, if we can draw a straight line from the availability of literacy to landing on the moon. By casting a wider net you have a much greater chance to catch the Newtons and Einsteins it would seem. How many people prior to Newton could have invented calculus but were born into a world where they had no access to education? Just an interesting thought.
Yes, I agree, but remember also that the global population itself is also much, much bigger. World population was around 30-50 million. Today, 7 billion. So we also should have more Einsteins and Newtons to catch. One can imagine that a combined effect of the increase in population and the proportion of literacy in world population together might correlate well with the rise in technology. ... He did mention though, that the 1% were not necessarily the same as the aristocracy. The kings were not literate; only the scribes. To me, this suggests that they might have had some system for selecting for capability in becoming a scribe, as well as for engineers, ship builders, etc. Some way of catching Einsteins, so to speak.
brindlebriar I am sure you're at least possibly correct. I tend to thing though that even if you are correct that the largest mass of people would still have no access to education. I think that the mass of people lived below the level where they would have any access at all to education.
Jim LaGuardia Not sure what your point is. Had someone better educated Torquemada for example, if someone had educated theism out of him, he would have had a much harder time justifying torturing people to death. An educated population, one that's taught critical thinking, is insulated against falling for a Hitler, Stalin, or Trump. No one with much understanding of what happened in 1920s-30s Germany voted for Donald Trump. Education prevents fascism.
I'm watching , but I am not worried. But then I'm 72 and most of my life is in the rear view mirror. I do appreciate that this professor is not "politically correct" ( use of B.C. ).
Interested. Not Worried. (worrying never helps you make anything but panic, make bad descision mistakes, errors. worrying never helps. it only increases retardenednes)
Watching from "work from home" self-isolation, but not worried... about covid19. More worried (concerned? sympathetic?) about all the people who have lost jobs or loved ones. Need to get the economy back on its feet and get people back to work. Came here from Tom Scott videos, check that stuff out!
I'd pay money to see a debate between this man and Zahi Hawas. Not that Hawas would subject himself to any more self-induced humilities, but that'd sure be fun to watch.
b1itsjustme how much did he pay them to 'give' him an award? Remember, this is the guy who sat on the tunnel system under the Giza plateau discovery until it helped resurrect his career. Before his big reveal he was incessantly discounting it like one of those sling blade mother feckers down at Stamford.
This causes me to wonder about the state of forests of the time, as they were both the primary source of fuel for processing metals, as well as building materials for both military and civilian purposes. With drought, tree growth and replacement would have slowed greatly, impacting all facets of life and economy and trade.
"others argue about mortgage payments, we argue about the Trojan War" - sounds like his household is more interesting than most others I've seen, how do I get an invite to dinner over there?
Enjoyable lecture, congratulations! Some of the most ancient castles from the Bronze Age and earlier in Sardinia are burried under mud with seashells. Were Shardana also wiped away from a tsunami on Sardinian lowlands?
Brilliant lecture and a wonderful view of a parallel between a globalized world system and what is taking place today. I have shared this link with a number of my friends. ... Thank you Dr. Eric Cline. Barry Manclark Australia
It depends on the culture/region. There were many calendars and each their own date. For example, tody the Hebrews year is 5781. Chinese its 4717. It's just that the Gregorian Calendar we use today, is recognized by all, just like we use time to keep meetings/appointments. It's a common reference.
Let me add that the Gregorian Calendar did not come into use until 1582. The reason we call this 2020 is bc Pope Gregory calculated/claimed the alleged birth of their object of worship to have been 1, 582 years prior (it would now have been 2,020 years at this point). As for the Hebrew calendar it began in Nippur and marked its years from its introduction 5,781 years ago.
@@imjustmetoo7419 The Gregorian calendar of 365 days that we use is much older than that. Julius Caesar adapted it from the Egyptian calendar. That is why it is easy to know what year it happened.
@@postmeme44 That's called the Julian Calander. And was the model off of what Gregorian is based off. Forgive me for not diving into all the details, I did not see them relative to my statement. ;)
I like this guy. He has a PHD and I do not have to wounder his field. He is willing to say "we don't know". So often we get the attitude of "I have a PHD and you can't get an AA ". He takes in all possibilities.
I have zero direct education in history and archaeology but its my passion to read about it. This was a very good presentation and definitely food for thought. Thanks!
I can only imagine how Mother Earth feels when caressed so gently with the soft brushes that people like Mr. Cline use to remove millenniums of ‘stellar dust’ and bring back her magnificent beauty of the past to her surface skin. Your brushwork is as beautiful and precious as that of the greatest painters of all time.
Can't believe I be chillin on this video while eating and working and this is a dang class lecture lol! Love this professor and the video production overall, thanks for sharing!
Judy Ives no that’s not true. Don’t believe everything you are told by the lying news media. They have done everything they could to destroy this man. They got nothing on him. Don’t misunderstand me, he is not a nice man. Jimmy Carter and Obama were nice men. That didn’t work out well. Trump is a son-of-a-bitch, but he is our son-a-bitch.
Consider that Pandemic Flu from 1918-1920 killed more people than the whole of WW1. Disease and Famine can end states, nations, and civilizations just as messily as any war, but it's hard to blame something as faceless and impersonal as bad weather or a tainted water supply for bringing a city to ruin. More often than not, historical record pins the blame for those on someone - ANYONE - to soothe the existential dread. If anything, take comfort in the fact that the impact of this pandemic has been economic, and not a global decimation of humanity. A disease like this could have *ended* entire countries, 150-200 years ago, or earlier. And yet here we are, idly commenting on videos available freely on a global communications network.
@@watchm4ker It's an overblown excuse to take everyone's rights away, being used by the same people who are trying to disarm law abiding citizens while refusing to prosecute criminals, and opening flood gates at the borders, and locking people down forcing them out of work.
An excellent example of how college should work and did work in my day. Constantly taking you in areas away from your safe zone and challenging you with different ideas.
@Stella H software engineers often get the work done in less than 40 hours a week, although sometimes we work late and work weekends etc when there is a scheduled release or when shit hits the fan.
I enjoyed every minute of this lectuer.. the more you know the more you don't.. never thought I will have some real quality time on TH-cam.. thanks sir.
I'm very interested in the impacts of economic stressors that might have also play a role in the collapse. Based on what I have read, they did have a semi complex market system based on bartering.
hey, its August 2020 here. why does it sound like we are going thru this same exact thing right now as he is talking about 1177bc. video mark start at 53:48 .
I knew about the “sea people,” and I knew they invaded twice within 30 yrs, however, I didn’t know that it was equal to the collapse of Rome, a huge deal, in other words.
I’m listening to this during the current pandemic and this presentation gives me chills. Are we looking at a “systems failure” or have we already experienced it?
Vinay Gupta's Simple Critical Infrastructure Map is a nice model to think about mass destruction I read that piece of information through this website (daodu.tech/03-19-2020-necessities-during-pandemic-resource-dignity-antifragility). It's in Mandarin :< but I'm confident that there are people around the world who are reflecting long and hard about how we failed and how we can stand up stronger.
Have you food to eat and water to drink? Is your toilet working? Oh, you are posting crap on the interwebz. What collapse are you talking about then? Collapse of ability to have a grand vacation abroad for a couple weeks?
Pandemic? Where are the masses upon masses that are infected is dead from this virus? They are on/in your TV and disinformation networks. All media is now owned and overseen by a very small group of the wealthiest elite, for their further benefit not our's. Extreme population control is coming via a mandatory "vaccine", as well as tightly controlled monitoring of every move of those remaining. * Georgia Guidestones * Event 201 / Event 301 * Agenda 21 * Agenda 2030
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I love that this is freely accessible. What a time to be alive.
Exactly!!!
To what end? It is the fairy tale of a man debunking the fairy tales told him when he was a student in college. They are all fairy tales from the mouths of men and of no value. They are distractions, diversions from life.
The Rooted Word His work is researched, and evidence-based. Fairytales are imagination-based, mythology, like most of the contents of “holy” texts.
@@TheRootedWord looks like someone doesn't understand the content
@@TheRootedWord This presentation may not be for you, but your opinion does not apply to others. For most of us here, it is not a distraction or diversion, but furthering our understanding of the past. There must be people in every society who researches and keeps a record of the past. A world without people like this Professor (and his colleagues) and his lust for the truth and understanding about our world's history would be akin to some of what he talks about - things that are forgotten (and having to be re-learned later). We would not learn anything because we would forget everything that got us here in the first place. Without knowing and understanding the past we are doomed to make the same mistakes going forward. Knowing the history of past cultures and people of the world gives us perspective and many people have a wanton need to know this history. There is a famous quote, I believe is was Cornel West, who said something like, "You can't really move forward until you look back." It would take a lot longer for mankind to move forward if he does not embrace the history of the past. Mankind might even reach a point in the future where mankind can go no further because we think the past is irrelevant.
Dr. Clines energy for this topic is so infectious! He has me so interested in the late bronze era.
Watching this now for a second time!
Me too 😁
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mr. or miss. legs . one should be concernd with whats going down today , not the bronze age ! just say-ing !
The fact that this has five million views gives me a smallish amount of hope.
I dont. I have been a history student my whole life, and I was a psychology major in college. Our liberal arts colleges can not even teach semi accurate twentieth century history. Now we have marauding young zombies screaming about a system that they have no actual knowledge of, and worshiping evil, racist, sociopaths like marx, Trotsky, and Lenin. If we dont stomp it out soon, we will see our collapse also.
@@usefulidiots3970 We also have the complicating factor of critical infrastructure that is capable of instantaneous widespread failure. At least failure propagation back then took months or years. Today, it can take seconds.
@@usefulidiots3970 AMEN!!!
@@usefulidiots3970 Wow, sociopathic fissures are closing fast.
Its also good to sleep to
Around 38 minutes in, he mentions a woman sheltering in a doorframe during an earthquake. If you know to do that, it is because you're part of a group that has seen a lot of earthquakes. That's not an intuitive move. In other words, this is not evidence of _an_ earthquake. It is evidence of many earthquakes.
Good point
They assume she was sheltering, she could have been rushing either inside or outside and got struck, but it also means her body was not buried, instead was left where it fell, which on its own indicates the city was abandoned immediately, but in that case I would expect the body to have been dragged and scattered by scavengers (creatures), so I don't buy what they are saying at all based on the interpretation of that body alone.
@@_John_P If the body was buried under a lot of debris, it's possible that scavengers weren't able to get to it.
@@_John_P no it doesn't mean that her body wasn't burried. The fact they found the body at all is proof scavengers couldn't get to her. It's not prove the place was immediately abandoned. I think its more likely that nobody found her in the rubble and just like with the dinosaurs, the soil became her tomb
@@RichardsNickname People reuse stones, any pile of ruble would have been taken eventually to build walls or other structures elsewhere, exposing the remains, unless the place was abandoned and forgotten.
This is the second of his presentations I have viewed. He knows his subject. He does not have to refer to notes. He knows his names and his dates. He is clearly a professional in every sense of the word. He knows the names in his field, the state of current digs and research. When I get a chance, I am getting his book. I’m also searching for any videos on this take on Exodus. Most of all, he’s funny and relaxed.
referring to notes is not a sign of weakness or intelligence.... Get out of here with that bullshit
He's a great presenter but he's probably given this talk on his book a million times. Referring to your notes is essential for historians because there's so many gd facts and dates.
Even when all the experts agree, they may well be wrong. - Bertrand Russell
The reasons his presentation is smooth are 1) he has excellent long term memory and 2) he is well practiced from decades of reciting to students. Excellent professors could almost give their standard lectures in their sleep. That is no insult. It comes with the job.
@@dp6003 please state your reasons ... otherwise, you will be taken for a jerk.
I came to TH-cam to watch cat videos and seventy minutes later. . . Dr. Cline, you are a great lecturer, that was really fun, thank you!
its a lie.. in Transilvania tere are artefacts that date 6000 bc .. propaganda
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Metal rock guitar lessons and now im watching THIS! What happened?! 😳
@@theodoret4556 why aren't they a major subject? Maybe because they are not decifired? Maybe they are
@granite tiger oo
This is what I miss about college sometimes. Listening to a history professor who loves his or her subject.
Welcome to the good part of TH-cam :D
@@LithiumFusion1 I know right. If only more people would watch stuff like this rather than 'reality' TV we would be a more advanced species. lol
He is a fine lecturer, but what he says is an opinion set, hardly more than 140 years old.
To pass his course, indeed all of this opinion must be followed... or you will fail the course.
But his thoughts are countered by many other enquiring people today. And the truth?
The pharaoh he calls 'Rameses III, in 1177 BC', is really a much later famous monarch
called Apries by Greek authors and Khophra by a Hebrew prophet. And he was alive and
well in the lifetimes of Jeremiah, Plato, Thales of Miletes and Zedekiah, the last king of Judah.
This pharaoh famously sailed his fleet to Cyprus, defeated the Cypriot fleet and then conquered
the island itself. He used the captured booty to build some nice monuments back home in Egypt.
After that, the entire eastern Mediterranean region was ravaged by the Babylonian tide.
@@jkeister I was going to skip this video until I read your comment. * Presses Play *
@@christophermills9289 haha good comment. This stuff does not just keep me sane, it gives me joy in lockdown.
3.2k dislikes are from Sea People
Lol anti sea peoples propaganda
The dang sea peoples
@Boz Scaggs it shows the number of dislikes next to likes king
No, it's probably from Fundamentalist Christians because he said the time of the Exodus, "if it took place."
Or earthquakes.
If you're arguing with your spouse over the Trojan War rather than mortgage payments or infidelity, you got a *good* marriage.
i'd like someone to argue about history with...
Unless maybe if her name is Helen?
You may think that but you’d be wrong.
Valentina Valley That’s a stretch.
@Valentina Valley Destroying enemy cities and expelling and even eradicating entire populations was, sadly, not uncommon in the Ancient Era: the Assyrians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Greeks/Macedonians, Hebrews, Huns, Romans, and barbarian tribes all practiced this to varying degrees. However, this mostly wasn't "genocide" as it's understood post WW2, but rather an often merciless waging of total war against enemy states and their peoples, and the savagery unleashed by a victorious army upon a defeated enemy after suffering large losses in combat.
This has been seen throughout history, including WW2 after the Nazi German state was conquered and its people, especially in the eastern areas under Soviet control, were subjected to mass rape, brutality, reprisal killings and a limited form of "ethnic cleansing" from ancient German(ic) lands. All of this occurred as revenge for the previous 3-4 years of atrocities, mass rape and murder (and genocide of Jews &c) inflicted upon Soviet POWs and subjugated people in conquered areas of the USSR, during "Operation Barbarossa" (some of which acts were actually "genocide" as considered in the post-WW2 context).
As a layperson untrained in archeology, this is utterly fascinating -- particularly the numerous parallels that can be drawn between 3200 years ago and now. We have a lot still to learn from the ancient world.
the point ov history is to learn from it. but the way sociaty uses it i think it may be best to use history as a playbill. as in 'OH a global pandimic... yep leads to food and fuel resource loss and panic in smaller countries.... rome fell to less. LETS GO COVID/SHRI LANKA!!"
The global warming-climate change bandwagon just keeps rolling.
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They don't want you to know the truth
What have we got to learn, More ancient ignorance and superstition.
NO thank you.
What's fascinating about the bronze age collapse is that it was a complete apocalypse for most of the world.
An extinction of society never before seen.
I watched this informative lecture two years ago. But, TH-cam algorithms recommended I watch it again. It is worth the second viewing.
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I’ll just bet your right. Think of what life would be like if we had access to this stuff as kids on a Friday night.
I'm here too!
Same
Fake! Those people with families were refugees of the invasions of Sea Peoples. Also the depictions (of those invasion wars) depicts (and not only in Egypt) all kind of people which were all involved in these wars and migrations, are NOT all the infamous Sea Peoples, but ALL peoples involved in these wars, the autochton victims, plus the invaders). Many fake info (and all based on BS and infantile speculations) is today being purposely spread allover Media concerning the Sea Peoples, but the real informations, based on real proof (also thoroughly documented by the greatest history investigator of all times, Dinu Costel Linta aka "DCL" or "LCD") exists allready, about WHO were the Sea Peoples, documented also by the Egyptian tablets (as well as the Babylonian ones), and even by this very guy in this clip, but when he was younger, sane and incoruptibile, in another clip (See "The Colaps of the Bronze Age Civilisation" documentary on youtube, about the "Sea People", the perpetual killers of the human race, who they are/were: th-cam.com/video/MjuZjHpxUWQ/w-d-xo.html ), long before he was hansomly paid by the Sea Peoples of today (who owes the Media, the banks etc.) to divert the atention from them (the descendents of the Sea Peoples), to other cheap fairytales for weak minds (as a sane person sees through it right away), as the comediant type speculations in this clip shows.
Very good lecture. After years of history classes and reading history books this in perhaps one of the best explanations of what took place in this area. Thank you. I really enjoyed listening to you. And, yes, history does repeat itself and those who refuse to learn history are destined to re-learn it, i.e. “us today”.
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He’s fantastic! Laughing all the way to lunchtime.
I can only imagine how much more we would know if books, art, statues and other things weren't destroyed in wars and fires.
@Saint Lucifer They're all awful at destroying knowledge and culture. It even happens today. It's awful.
Imagine how much extra junk we would have and how costly it would be to keep it all cataloged and in good condition. We could all do with less junk.
An ancient historian friend once claimed that I, who study modern U.S. history, have access to more information on any one YEAR in the 1930s than he does to ALL of antiquity. I doubted his claim -- at first. Then I thought about all the books, magazines, and newspapers I could get in one way/form or another from, say, 1937. Then I moved on to art and popular culture sources: paintings, photography, illustrations, sculptures, movies, radio show recordings, music recordings, sheet music, comic books, etc., etc., and then all the manuscripts sources in archives: diaries, letters, oral histories, and so much more. Yup, he had less than that from thousands of years of the ancient world. Amazing that we can piece together what we have to create anything like a coherent story.
George B but black lives matter. Marxist iconoclasts
Karen Houser the Actual Academic Art world- around the world, tho lib, is loosing our shit. Iconoclasm is our cross! Burning books and toppling democratic symbols has never gone well historically. Out side of click bait and media prompts there is massive legislative power working to restore history for fear its further white washed. Heritage monuments will be restored to higher glory and their importance in public space every more honored. Toppling monuments is a crime against humanity, so internationally defended against, not just our nation; its part of media (art=1st amendment control) consciousness suppression, dare I say wafting with Marxism.
One of best talks i have seen. He is the sort of lecturer that would make study a pleasure!
He knows so well what he wants to communicate, how to spend the time allotted. So many lecturers are hampered by narrow thinking, like being slaves of their own powerpoints.
Yes, I was thinking about how refreshing it is to listen and flow the line of thought so pleasantly.
Many that I have listened to in the past on similar subjectsI didn't continue to listen to as the lecturer was boring and uninspiring. This guy not only knew what he was talking about was also quite entertaining making the topic interesting, and as a result I listened to it all and learned a great deal. Well done!
Could not agree more. He knows how to communicate.
@Jeff Addinsall
imagine you have to travel the same routes 4 times, dodging sea peoples, hippos, and pirates just because you deliver the wrong sandals to Hammurabi.
Worth it, using the discount Hammurabi Code.
Ha ha ha!!! I can just imagine the mumbling under the breath now!
More likely to get a refund or get back the right product than from Amazon now with all the modern stuff we got.
Probably more reliable delivery than USPS.
But just think of all the CO² output with chariots running about all over the place......No wonder with all the modern chariots.....History does repeat itself....
Husband: OH SO YOU'RE JUST GONNA IGNORE THE DESTRUCTION LAYERS AT HISARLIK?
Wife: YOU KEEP USING THAT TONE WITH ME AND I'LL SHOW YOU A NEW KIND OF DESTRUCTION LAYER
Top comment! You win the internet today!
Nice... very witty.
..divorce papers delivered inside a small wooden horse, given ostensibly as a gift..
Husband: I concede
When I was at school (60's) History was taught as elements on a Line - battle dates, death of kings etc.
Later it was looked upon as elements within a Square.
Now, and especially with this excellent lecturer, it is a Cube full of moving, interacting elements.
I was in school in the 70s-80s (SE Europe) and I did Ancient history in grade 5 and 9 (high school), medieval history grade 6 and 10, modern history grade 7 and 11, and. national history (from ancient times to modern) in grade 8 and 12. So we learned about Egyptians and their ancient kingdoms, Phoenicians, Persia, Greece, Roman empire and others around. My son, in Canada in the 2010s, did almost nothing at history, except from the 1812 war.
Machine learn algorithms will take it to the hypercube and beyond.
I once had a prof who taught modern history. He taught it n reverse, so our 20th century were so much easier to understand when I was shown how western culture in the 19th undermined near and middle eastern culture. Not to mention the far east. Which shows so much about even our lives to this day.
It's better to learn history as a timeline. One needs to know the basic facts of when and where before the discussion of the why can be had. It also takes too long to have the discussion about the debate of why something happened because there is rarely a consensus about the why. Add discussion of the why for each event and you would rarely get beyond a few events during a semester. The why needs to be confined to advanced courses or books if you want to explore a particular event.
A hypercube
I gotta say, Cap’n Kangaroo is one of the best lecturers I’ve ever listened to . Precise, entertaining, and a pleasure to listen to! ! Bravo!!!
Mike Charron WOW! Someone else remembers Captain Kangaroo! Glad to know I’m not the only one!!
Jan Zimny
Ditto! Friendly Giant was earlier but still on when I was a kid. Captain w Moose!
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yes - surprising, considering it was usually mr green jeans that i found more interesting...
So, was he one of the Sea People?
Actually I think he looks more like Sigi Schmid (former coach of the Galaxy) than Captain Kangaroo. But I agree, while this is not my favorite period in history, he made it interesting enough that I watched until the end and was actually disappointed that the lecture was over. Very well done.
Dr. Eric Cline. I listen to youtube lectures and debates to help me sleep. This one kept me up. I'm doing it again, this time watching it. Hats down to you, sir
I am not into archeology at all, nor history at this level, but I watched it to the end. So well presented.
I always regretted that the Bronze age was skipped entirely in my world history class. It was mentioned for about 3 seconds and then suddenly jumped to the golden ages of ancient Greek and Rome. I thought that era was just as interesting as the renaissance period.
Many ages got rushed so fast in my old school in Germany. The second world war was the biggest and looongest topic. So long, that nobody was anymore interested in my class in that. I couldn't care less now about all the nazi things. That happens when you force the students to read and read and learn and learn for so long about one topic. I could puke about the history lessons.
@@heffalumptarkin1384 history is written by the winner. if you stop the antinazi propaganda for a second, one might start to question eradicating german civilians and dropping nukes on woman and children.
More people would learn about the Bronze Age if milestone wedding anniversaries (10, 25,50,75) had gifts tied to various ages. Digital age would be the last one, so whatever is current is good for a gift.
@@humphrex - Boo, f*cking hoo. Nazis killed millions of Russians. Stalin killed tens of millions. Now Putin is looking to restart the process. Whining about the West? Really? Look at the scale of killing before even mentioning nukes. More people died from ethnic cleansing than ever died from nukes.
The teachers don't know anything about it. They could make it relatable by watching the movie "Troy." And say, THESE people. We're talking about these people." There are other things from popular culture. Knowing Bible stories is essential. All sorts of exotic peoples and cultures that lived in the Bronze Age
Last week, I visited Tiryns & Mycenae again. When combined with your lectures, these places come to life with time travel effect-
The great lesson of history is that its never THAT simple. As our society increasingly craves simple answers that might be the most important lesson to be learned.
the great lesson here is the middle east is not humanities cradle of civilization , its the cradle of in humane beliefs and acts of genocide ,
nothing about the middle east or Mediterranean are civilized.
Nah, it’s simple because our brains are too feeble
Ossie Dunstan errr - a sweeping generalisation
@@ossiedunstan4419 I think your getting your geography mixed up it's Europe your talking about.
@Tony Wilson well said.
Great lecture. The Mayans of South America inherited the belief that time was circular...(thus the Mayan calandar) and that you can forsee the future by looking at the past. They described the rise and fall of nations as "Great Ages"
even incorporating the stars as signs of things to come.
Interesting that a people halfway around the globe had such knowledge of the world so long ago!
It’s interesting to note that this also relates to events that were happening in the Orkney Islands during the same period.
Before circa 1,500 BC we had community burials at sites such as Orkahaugr and The Tomb of the Eagles, and large building projects such as the Standing Stones and the Brodgar Complex.
Once we pass that date, there is a huge shift from these practices with more simple burials in cist graves, and a lack of large building projects.
When we reach the 1,000 BC point, we then see the return of a more structured society with the beginning of the Broch Builders time...
Sounds like a massive volcano that erupted and people moved from the north to the Mediterranean coast. Southern coast of France and later Sardinia and Sicily. Maybe the Sardinians and Sicilians moved east due to the massive influx of people from the north. Hence where the Sea people came from.
There is evidence that a massive volcano in Iceland erupted at this time.
@@bubba842 Hello. Can You please recommend me some reliable resource on this topic ?
Activity at the Neolithic Orkney structures and tombs, and most of their equivalents further south, including Stonehenge and Silbury Hill ceased quite suddenly around 2,300 BC. This coincided with the arrival of beaker culture and migrants into Britain from the east and the start of the Bronze Age (in Britain). Therefore there is a gap of about 1,000 years between the Orkney civilisation and the events in the Mediterranean, although these might have had some knock-on effect on Britain in the late Bronze Age?
@@giderahwolf It seems that there is a possibility of several eruptions around Iceland - premium.weatherweb.net/weather-in-history-400-to-100bc/
@STEVEN CHARLTON Hello, and Thanks. I am interested in this 'weather/geology related' topics about the past - but as I am no professional and this topic is not yet well established in our land, I find it hard to find some info. :-)
to look at him, you would never think he could be capable of such charisma. this guy is easily one of the top 3 educators ive ever seen. absolutely nailed this topic and perfectly delivered the info while keeping it very interesting and entertaining.
but not truth.
why not truth? In 1 line can you give 1-2 reasons please - it's not my field and would appreciate alternative views. Thx
why are you here Arthur?
Arthur Bonehead.
thats what i thought sorry ass troll. at least jesus loves you. this i know. know why? the bible told me so. may the lord bless you and free you from your misery. love you man.
Amazing, thoughtful presentation. As a student of ancient near eastern civilizations, this brings things together for me in a cogent and careful way that I really appreciated.
1177 : civilization collapses. 2021: hold my mead.
Your comment will not age well I think just as those predicting collapse in 2020. I know it's a good joke but I preffer jokes that have basis on reality.
@@Game_Hero as was discussed in the lecture, collapse happens over a century, not in a single year. So as 1177 is used as a short hand so could too be 2021.
@@Game_Hero if you have a preference of jokes then you don't understand humour. js
@@rorythomson3439 And why not 2001 or 1993 or 1948?
@@Game_Hero no reason why not. Only time will tell. 2021 is just the most nialistic year of this generation I guess lol
2nd time I've watched this lecture and took away more than the first time. I wish my professors were as entertaining when I was in college...
I'm gonna have to carry a marker with me so I can write "The sea peoples were here!" as a sort of history enthusiast's Kilroy. ;)
Fantastic stuff. Thank you.
@Jeremy Kirkpatrick Yes, me too! lol
@Jeremy Kirkpatrick Are you Semen??
@@adrianseanheidmann4559 Seeing as the tone has already been lowered:
Who is the most virile man in the world?....
Santa Clause; he only comes once a year, but when he does he fills your stockings!....
It was Walpole
YOU KNOW KILROY??? I KNOW KILROY TOO!!!
What an excellent Lecturer, giving a highly interesting presentation. All Teachers should be this engaging.
This was a total waste of time. Tell me one solution to fix things today.
Dr Cline has a lovely, spontaneous & conversational manner of presentation. With humoristic puns, it makes it entertaining. 😊
Absolutely loved this lecture, brilliant, accurate, accesible and very humorous! Definitely I have become a follower of Dr. Cline!
Wonderful interesting talk I use to be involved in archeology and did a ten year study in China. 12,000 BC to 500BC. Why does everyone never talk or mentions ancient China. They where very advanced at one point but then every thing seemed to collapsed and eventually started back up all over again. Don’t forget the fact that all the oceans where 400 feet lower back then. Many people traveled all over by foot from continent to continent more than by boat.
Death Pits of Ur?
That would be an amazing Metal band name
I actually saw Death Pits of Ur open for Metallica in Toronto, in 1994.
twothreebravo whats stopping you ? I'd go listen just for the band name.
Better than "Your Wife is Backstage" Almost as good as "Free Beer and the Your Wifes not Here."
w/ opener "The Nymphos"
sounds like a Bal-Sagoth song name, but a little bit too short for a Bal-Sagoth song name hahaha
Sounds like a fantasy prison mine
Check out Nile from the US. Their songs are inspired by Egyptian, Hittite, & Sumerian mythology.
Absolutely loved this and am going to find the book. One thing I’d elaborate on is of the points that we still face now, “Greek economy tanks” isn’t as relevant today, I’d suggest the probable global recession we’re heading into will basically be the equivalent for current times.
My wife and I argue about Trojans at home too. But that's a subject for a whole other lecture.
She propably suggests the samler sizes, right?
Yes, she is incredibly worried how infested her computer is.
well that escalated quickly.
The Reaction Does she call Bullshit too? Like scholars do to this video?
Mick G. hi no no
"Be careful who you write to - you may know him..."
This was an really entertaining lecture which I am really enjoying even as english is not my first language. Good work!
He's fun to listen to, isn't he. If only all lecturers had his gift :-)
I don't think it's easy to present a lecture to an audiance in an interesting way and requires a good deal of effort. Eventually not all lecturers are willing to put that effort into their presentations, obviously.
This one here is really a gem and I am actually looking on yt if he has some other lectures online :)
Where were you when I was in school. You are the best teacher I've seen in quite a while. Thank you.
1178 BC is the year of the eclipse mentioned in Homer's Odyssey. The consensus sacking of Homer's Troy was in 1184 BC. That Greek oral tradition seems to emphasize this decade suggests the significance of this time period in Mediterranean cultures.
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Andrew Sickafoose nice point friend some ancient explanation may seem wierd but may not be literally that what is been subscribed.
M. Ygr. You can’t say that civilation began from Greek cause the hole scructure of lies will collapse.I have read that even Maori have similarities with ancient Spartans that has Rasta hair,or white people with maiandros in japan and in polenysia.
@@ΜιχΛαζ The Red Hair and Blue Eyes of the Maoris came from North African Berber people displaced by the movement of people from the middle east as they expanded west. They crossed the Atlantic, settled Central America and then kept going west into the Pacific mingling with other races and ending up in New Zealand! One of the reasons why the Americans were taken aback by the arrival of the Spanish because they were expecting further visitors as they were told others would follow!
One lesson from this lecture is that nations in the middle east are connected and the collapse of one leads to the collapse of another...
interesting point!
Four years later...but so glad I found this or TH-cam recommended it to me, anyway I rarely enjoy these lectures but this one had me from the start!! I would pay to hear this guy talk! Thank you sir!!
An excellent lecture from Father Ted Crilly. I've watched this lecture 3 or 4 times since it was posted on youtube and it is as interesting and engaging now as it was the first time.
Except for the 3rd Sunday in June of course, when it's ok.
This was EXCELLENT! Thanks for posting Eric Cline's lecture.
Nice teacher!
I like him a lot.
Thank you Professor Cline, that was a very interesting and informative lecture, delivered with great passion and humor.
So interesting with ancient history. I'm sure we would be blown away if knew all that has happened on this earth.
Shepherds Chapel. Pastor Arnold Murray. Chek' it.
Daniel Willett 🙏🏼 I just looked him up and watching now.
really what i think is that if we knew what happened in a short period of time (quick knowledge) we would have a lot of misunderstaning, new cults (like flatearthers etc. ) wars ,religious things (even if we knew that religion is a fantasy ) and other things like that ....you catch the point ..and most of all we would not hear the truth before it would appear on every platform from every big leader...we would consider that another propaganda .
Yes, like who shot Kennedy, Lincoln & J.R.
Their killers still run free, people! It's a dangerous world we live in.
indeed.
I found this today and i find the latter part rather chilling, when applied to what is going on today.
Good I'll watch it for the Doom, Gloom, Death and Destruction! What more could we possibly need?
Me too. Lessons from History.
I loved the video, but his analysis in the end ("ISIS as the Sea People", "There is famine") is unfortunately a bit misleading. That collapse in antiquity was so devastating because it hit the leading civilizations of the day, what he call the "G7 of the Bronze Age". Today's Middle East might be at the center of world news, but it is not in terms of the world economy.
Now the Corona situation might come closer. If the outbreak in the US becomes much worse and reaches a point where it threatens the stability of society. But I remind you, that would mean a death toll high enough to permanently disrupt how the country operates, e.g. a breakdown of electricity because there are no engineers left to operate the power plants. Thankfully, they are far from there yet and (fortunately) very likely won't reach that point, despite the very tragic (and unnecessary) toll the virus had so far.
Let's continue our scenario: in November, Trump does not accept his defeat and calls his supporters to march on Washington. Courtesy to the 2nd Amendment, a civil war breaks out.
Needless to say, the subsequent collapse of the US Dollar and of global trade would send serious ripples across the globe. A complete parallel failure of the wheat harvests in Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Canada and the US over several years. Now if we, on top of that, have say a complete and violent breakdown of the EU, full USSR-style, devastating Earthquake in China and an abrupt end of oil supplies from the whole Middle East (all out war between Saudi-Arabia and Iran?) Maybe a nuclear war
There are a lot of ifs and a lot of small probabilities there. It's not as unthinkable as we would like it to be and even on their own, many of these events would be devastating. But reaching the level of perfect storm that wiped Myceans, Minoans, Assyrian, Hethites and all the others as civilizations is quite another level.
@@maibws9170 That was the point. Sea peoples were not from the bronze-G9, they were a backwater... like the Middle East is today. And we won't need several years worth of famine, we only have around 60 days worth of food supply, globally. We're much more efficient, and unwilling to pay for insurance (stored food, etc), so we're going to have to sacrifice people. Which we're doing, only a 60-80,000 so far - but we're just getting started.
There's not too much reason to worry yet. These collapses take decades of ruinous events. No matter how bad the media portrays events today (because they make money by drumming up the news), things used to be worse.
The numbers are grim, but it's good to have perspective.
Coronavirus has killed 370,000 people, and will probably hit 1.5 million deaths. So, about as bad as the yearly deaths from Malaria or car crashes.
Meanwhile, the "Spanish Flu" killed somewhere between 20-50 million people, and it happened at the same time as the "Great War" which also killed over 20 million people, and was followed by the Great Depression where nearly half the banks failed, international trade fell by 65%, a quarter of Americans were unemployed.
And that still didn't cause a Systems Collapse.
I'm three minutes in and I already love this guy! It's great having access to material like this!
Stupidity repeats itself in the comment section.
why? cos ppl are keept in stupidity and tey are trained to be stupid ! do you thin elite belive in jesus and this bulshit? they know religion is old as fuck and its to make slaves... spirituality is something different its like be smart and inteligent.. similar but not the same...
what the fuck are you on?
nortel, what's it like being such a dribble head? Try to get straightened out, take care and a couple of asprins.
nortel proves the point perfectly.
3rd time I'm watching this. What a great presentation. I wish all teachers were this good at keeping our attention and imparting a ton of info.. :)
lol. This may be the third time I've watched it. It's great.
@@Dadecorban 9th time
@Jeremy Kirkpatrick Or because it's interesting
Second time for me.
Robert S. I wish all teachers had the opportunity to talk about this subject. It’s easy to talk well about something you love. Not all of us are given that opportunity.
Excellent historical presentation! This is why I have always loved the story of history! Research backed by evidence and continued speculation. Well done!
Très bien informé, étayé, cohérent et en plus Mr Cline est agréable à écouter. Et le sujet est d'actualité, c'est le moins qu'on puisse dire - et aucune chance qu'on trouve ça dans les mainstream. Merci beaucoup pour ces informations et pour la qualité de la prestation.
When he talks about only 1% being able to read or write, I have to wonder if the huge increases that we've seen over the last couple hundred years correlate directly with the democratization of literacy, if we can draw a straight line from the availability of literacy to landing on the moon. By casting a wider net you have a much greater chance to catch the Newtons and Einsteins it would seem. How many people prior to Newton could have invented calculus but were born into a world where they had no access to education? Just an interesting thought.
Yes, I agree, but remember also that the global population itself is also much, much bigger. World population was around 30-50 million. Today, 7 billion. So we also should have more Einsteins and Newtons to catch. One can imagine that a combined effect of the increase in population and the proportion of literacy in world population together might correlate well with the rise in technology. ...
He did mention though, that the 1% were not necessarily the same as the aristocracy. The kings were not literate; only the scribes. To me, this suggests that they might have had some system for selecting for capability in becoming a scribe, as well as for engineers, ship builders, etc. Some way of catching Einsteins, so to speak.
brindlebriar I am sure you're at least possibly correct. I tend to thing though that even if you are correct that the largest mass of people would still have no access to education. I think that the mass of people lived below the level where they would have any access at all to education.
No Way When you educate the populace, you not only educate Einstein and Newton, but also Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Torquemada.
Jim LaGuardia Not sure what your point is. Had someone better educated Torquemada for example, if someone had educated theism out of him, he would have had a much harder time justifying torturing people to death. An educated population, one that's taught critical thinking, is insulated against falling for a Hitler, Stalin, or Trump. No one with much understanding of what happened in 1920s-30s Germany voted for Donald Trump. Education prevents fascism.
Genius, spirituality, evil... can't be learned in school. These are gifts. Tesla could do calculus in his head, learn that!
I’ve had this on my watch list for a long time. It was even better than I had hoped it would be.
You just " unintentionally" explained my D. N. A. Results... That explains so much! Thank you!
My company has no idea they pay me money to sit and watch these sorts of videos in the middle of any given Tuesday.
Nice way to convey information. I will put the book in my buying list.
Who's watching this from their Quarantine and feeling particularly worried?
I'm watching , but I am not worried. But then I'm 72 and most of my life is in the rear view mirror. I do appreciate that this professor is not "politically correct" ( use of B.C. ).
Yes, and Yes.
Interested. Not Worried. (worrying never helps you make anything but panic, make bad descision mistakes, errors. worrying never helps. it only increases retardenednes)
I've already seen it. Worried about why the algorithm suggested it to me again. Worried about why I'm watching it again.
Watching from "work from home" self-isolation, but not worried... about covid19. More worried (concerned? sympathetic?) about all the people who have lost jobs or loved ones. Need to get the economy back on its feet and get people back to work. Came here from Tom Scott videos, check that stuff out!
I'd pay money to see a debate between this man and Zahi Hawas. Not that Hawas would subject himself to any more self-induced humilities, but that'd sure be fun to watch.
b1itsjustme how much did he pay them to 'give' him an award? Remember, this is the guy who sat on the tunnel system under the Giza plateau discovery until it helped resurrect his career. Before his big reveal he was incessantly discounting it like one of those sling blade mother feckers down at Stamford.
This is scientific archeology, why would Hawass object to any of it? Hawass only goes after kooks.
@b1itsjustme very becoming of you, guy.
@b1itsjustme nice attitude
Thank you for making this available for free.
This causes me to wonder about the state of forests of the time, as they were both the primary source of fuel for processing metals, as well as building materials for both military and civilian purposes. With drought, tree growth and replacement would have slowed greatly, impacting all facets of life and economy and trade.
Watching this you see they erased the history and concluded another one SUCH a HOAX.. when you study you see they lie nd lie.. SAD
But silting of the Anatolian coast didnt occur until roman times from erosion.
Look into the ancient tree's that were much taller and wider (devils tower) was believed to be a large tree before it was cut down.
This is what will happen to the earth if they continue with moving all to electricity because it comes from burning biofuel = trees.
@Jeremy Kirkpatrick the victors. Most history is lies just look at ww2.
"others argue about mortgage payments, we argue about the Trojan War" - sounds like his household is more interesting than most others I've seen, how do I get an invite to dinner over there?
you only watched a few minutes of this, you fool no one.
you only watched a few minutes of this, then you surfed on, you fool few.....
How can she deny the Trojan war?
You don't get an invite. You sneak in disguised as a centerpiece. Then halfway through dinner pop out saying "See! It's completely plausible!"
First, the mortgage. The Trojans can wait.
Enjoyable lecture, congratulations!
Some of the most ancient castles from the Bronze Age and earlier in Sardinia are burried under mud with seashells. Were Shardana also wiped away from a tsunami on Sardinian lowlands?
Anyone else come back here every few months?
Indeed.
Just noticed this video has 5mill views, the most views by far on this channel. That's encouraging!
This is fantastically entertaining. One of the few times I've been delighted by TH-cam's recommendations.
TH-cam has been recommending this to me for quite some time now, and I've always ignored it. I finally decided to give in. I'm so glad I did!
I'm not saying it was sea peoples.
But it was sea peoples.
You sure did not listen.
I think they misread the hieroglyphics.
Ramses III: General what do you see?
General: I see peoples!
The ancient aliens meme?
So you're saying it was aliens?
It was Walpole.
Brilliant lecture and a wonderful view of a parallel between a globalized world system and what is taking place today. I have shared this link with a number of my friends. ... Thank you Dr. Eric Cline. Barry Manclark Australia
We learn from history that we learn nothing from history.
We learn that people do the same things the we do differently.
Lewis takes the cake for the most profound comment
Its because Spengler was and is a idiot. Along with Toynbee.
It most be history starts and ends with their own small life
Lewis Taishoff The Sodomy is the last sign before the complete destruction of a civilization.
Super presentation and I learned a lot. This man has a real gift of orating~!! Thanks for the class.
Fascinating historical review and a very engaging and knowledgeable speaker, a pleasure to watch and learn, and wonder. Thank you.
A surprise find and a true pleasure! Thank you.
How did people living in 1177 BC keep track of the years and what year did they think it was?
It depends on the culture/region. There were many calendars and each their own date. For example, tody the Hebrews year is 5781. Chinese its 4717. It's just that the Gregorian Calendar we use today, is recognized by all, just like we use time to keep meetings/appointments. It's a common reference.
Let me add that the Gregorian Calendar did not come into use until 1582. The reason we call this 2020 is bc Pope Gregory calculated/claimed the alleged birth of their object of worship to have been 1, 582 years prior (it would now have been 2,020 years at this point). As for the Hebrew calendar it began in Nippur and marked its years from its introduction 5,781 years ago.
@@imjustmetoo7419 The Gregorian calendar of 365 days that we use is much older than that. Julius Caesar adapted it from the Egyptian calendar. That is why it is easy to know what year it happened.
@@postmeme44 That's called the Julian Calander. And was the model off of what Gregorian is based off. Forgive me for not diving into all the details, I did not see them relative to my statement. ;)
@@imjustmetoo7419 👍🏼
A lovely and relaxed lecturing style, which I think is very encouraging to learning.
I like this guy. He has a PHD and I do not have to wounder his field. He is willing to say "we don't know". So often we get the attitude of "I have a PHD and you can't get an AA ". He takes in all possibilities.
Sounds reasonable. I had seen this fellow on PBS' NOVA a couple of time. My guess is that he's a pretty good teacher too.
As a current student of his, I can say that he is indeed a pretty good teacher.
@@11111111111111118601 Are you a graduate student ?
this guy is stunning
I wish I had such professors at my time...
I have zero direct education in history and archaeology but its my passion to read about it. This was a very good presentation and definitely food for thought. Thanks!
I can only imagine how Mother Earth feels when caressed so gently with the soft brushes that people like Mr. Cline use to remove millenniums of ‘stellar dust’ and bring back her magnificent beauty of the past to her surface skin.
Your brushwork is as beautiful and precious as that of the greatest painters of all time.
Can't believe I be chillin on this video while eating and working and this is a dang class lecture lol! Love this professor and the video production overall, thanks for sharing!
Good food for thought about systems collapse at any time.
A systems collapse doesn’t happen in one year.
2020: hold my beer
Republicans have been working on the since at least Reagan.
Yeah, but we did this to ourselves by listening to experts.
Willy Makeit
You did it to yourselves by electing a criminal narcissist
Judy Ives no that’s not true. Don’t believe everything you are told by the lying news media. They have done everything they could to destroy this man. They got nothing on him. Don’t misunderstand me, he is not a nice man. Jimmy Carter and Obama were nice men. That didn’t work out well. Trump is a son-of-a-bitch, but he is our son-a-bitch.
@@willymakeit5172 Trump is destroying himself and taking the rest of us along with him.
Very disappointed that the speaker's name lacks the middle initial "D."
Idespisenicknames curse you for causing me to scroll back up, only to not be impressed.
Idespisenicknames I thought that was rather funny.
Very astute student. Lmao.
Eric PhD Cline
Well, he's so laid back that his middle initials could almost be "R.E."
2020: Hold my beer...
Glug glug glug
Not nearly as bad.
Hope you ordered a meal with that beer, or is that just a uk coronavirus new rule?
I love how many TH-cam commenters are professional historians...
yes , what do you need to know ?
1 .The Discovery of the city of Atlantis ->2011
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89. Why did the Vatican set in motion World War I !
99. Why did the Vatican financed the Nazi Party in its meteoric rise To power !
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After 26mins watching I realize: *this thing got 4 MILLION VIEWS.* _WTF?????_
I bet that was A LITTLE unexpected to Prof. Cline. Just a little.
The power of TH-cam recommending things at random to masses.
This is because this video erases true history and creates a new one that the New World Order is promoting.
Watching this during covid be like... Damn when they talk about disease at the end.
Consider that Pandemic Flu from 1918-1920 killed more people than the whole of WW1. Disease and Famine can end states, nations, and civilizations just as messily as any war, but it's hard to blame something as faceless and impersonal as bad weather or a tainted water supply for bringing a city to ruin. More often than not, historical record pins the blame for those on someone - ANYONE - to soothe the existential dread.
If anything, take comfort in the fact that the impact of this pandemic has been economic, and not a global decimation of humanity. A disease like this could have *ended* entire countries, 150-200 years ago, or earlier. And yet here we are, idly commenting on videos available freely on a global communications network.
@@watchm4ker It's an overblown excuse to take everyone's rights away, being used by the same people who are trying to disarm law abiding citizens while refusing to prosecute criminals, and opening flood gates at the borders, and locking people down forcing them out of work.
An excellent example of how college should work and did work in my day. Constantly taking you in areas away from your safe zone and challenging you with different ideas.
Lovely talk, Dr. Cline! I'm going to order your book right now. Obrigado!
Excellent conference! Impressive the last two slides showing how similar it is the situation nowadays and 33 centuries ago!!
Matthew 24:22, Halleluyah.
Clapped at the end even though I'm alone in my office. Great presentation.
Yes, this was a great history lesson. Presented very well!
@Stella H software engineers often get the work done in less than 40 hours a week, although sometimes we work late and work weekends etc when there is a scheduled release or when shit hits the fan.
Really interesting made so, because he kept his audience and presentation fun and factual
I enjoyed every minute of this lectuer.. the more you know the more you don't.. never thought I will have some real quality time on TH-cam.. thanks sir.
I'm very interested in the impacts of economic stressors that might have also play a role in the collapse. Based on what I have read, they did have a semi complex market system based on bartering.
Very good presentation, well thought out, multi-dynamic disaster sequences.
hey, its August 2020 here. why does it sound like we are going thru this same exact thing right now as he is talking about 1177bc. video mark start at 53:48 .
The same reason TH-cam recommended it to you now. It's all scripted.
I'm not sure how I got here, but I'm sure glad I did.
The Sea Peoples' Ferry
Wow, such enthusiasm, captivating, facinating! gotta love the youtubes....
I knew about the “sea people,” and I knew they invaded twice within 30 yrs, however, I didn’t know that it was equal to the collapse of Rome, a huge deal, in other words.
I’m listening to this during the current pandemic and this presentation gives me chills. Are we looking at a “systems failure” or have we already experienced it?
Same here. This video keeps popping up to me. I am actually afraid of watching it and getting to know something that will let me terrified.
Vinay Gupta's Simple Critical Infrastructure Map is a nice model to think about mass destruction
I read that piece of information through this website (daodu.tech/03-19-2020-necessities-during-pandemic-resource-dignity-antifragility). It's in Mandarin :< but I'm confident that there are people around the world who are reflecting long and hard about how we failed and how we can stand up stronger.
Have you food to eat and water to drink? Is your toilet working? Oh, you are posting crap on the interwebz. What collapse are you talking about then? Collapse of ability to have a grand vacation abroad for a couple weeks?
Pandemic? Where are the masses upon masses that are infected is dead from this virus? They are on/in your TV and disinformation networks. All media is now owned and overseen by a very small group of the wealthiest elite, for their further benefit not our's.
Extreme population control is coming via a mandatory "vaccine", as well as tightly controlled monitoring of every move of those remaining.
* Georgia Guidestones
* Event 201 / Event 301
* Agenda 21
* Agenda 2030