More Details about 'The Acolyte' Cancellation Emerge
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ย. 2024
- David Chen and Patrick Klepek get into more details about the cancellation of 'The Acolyte'. and what the future holds for the Star Wars universe.
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Its baffling why Amandla Stenberg was cast in this role. There's never a single moment where i was ever convinced that she was playing two seperate characters. She emotes exactly the same in both roles. It takes a LOT of experience to convincingly pull off that kind of thing. And Headland's awful scripts and bad overall bad direction in general didn't help anyone.
one huge problem was that the two characters she played looked too much alike.
They didn't do auditions or actual casting for, I think, *any* of the major roles. Headland just gave them to actors she liked, including her wife (Vernestra).
I am baffled by the praise the acting received.
At the end of the day it was the writing was the issue. Each episode needed at least 10-15 more minutes to fill in gaps so that the events would make more sense. Hell, I can't even defend it because there was no solidity to any of the plots, motivations, or reasons as to what was happening. You know how back in school if you were late on a book report you'd quickly review some *cliffnotes,* then hope you could fumble yourself into a passing grade? The entire show felt like it was just the cliffnotes to a better idea. I really liked the characters but the story was just a gigantic waste of time. I hope Disney learns from this.
“Expectations need to be calibrated “
Not with that budget. Like you guys said, completely irresponsible. This show would’ve been the same with a $90M budget.
As I watched the Acolyte I kept wondering why they weren't going with smaller stakes and a more focused story to save on costs. Imagine if they set it in a situation where Jecki, Osha, and Yord are padawans. We watch them interact over small stakes with their Jedi Masters over the course of the season building to a 'big bad'. Focus the attention on teaching so we get a feeling of Jedi hubris showing both the bad and good. No need to harp on it. The good thing is by focusing the show around the temple you can save on costs which gives you more leeway for a renewal as you hopefully build a following. Once you get a season 2, you can up the stakes and maybe introduce the twin and the dark side. Can you imagine the shock if/when Jecki and Yord die in season 3?
It shouldn't be this hard to make a good Star Wars or Marvel TV show. The frustrating part is over the years ABC/Disney has shown they know how to make good TV -- the problem is sometimes shows and casts take time to gel. I hope someone at Disney takes a hard look at their process and goes back to the basics because fans will show up if they make a better product. We want to love these shows.
Didn't the Stahelskis talk about how when making John Wick, choreographed action scenes are the cheapest way to go. Like literally the cheapest part of any action movie is choreographed action scenes. By that metric, in my opinion the only thing in this show that was exceptional was the cheapest to make.
Yeah I don't know why these guys are talking about the lightsaber fights like they're super expensive. Unless Disney's lightsaber CGI costs $500k/minute
The fighting scenes in no way shape or form were the main cost drivers, that's beyond absurd. The top costlier elements likely were the sets and CGI (scenes like Sol's ship persecution + general special effects). Andor had a larger budget, but also produced more episodes, had a much larger/experienced and famous cast, and a whole fake town to show for, aside of all the other amazing sets (several in site) as well as the space CGI scenes.
The Acolyte budget was astronomically high for what was finally delivered --- about $80 mil more than Mando SE01. But did it look better?
What I keep thinking back on is that Rise of Skywalker came out a mere 3 MONTHS before COVID exploded. If the timeline had been a little different, it wouldn’t have come out in theaters when it did and would have been given time to get fixed in the edit and with some reshoots.
lol the Rise of Skywalker you got was the one Disney “fixed”
Don’t think there’s a parallel universe where Rise of Skywalker ended up being good, even after reshoots. From concept to filming it was flawed.
Jeff Sneider has been breaking news in Hollywood for like 15 years.
Woah! I started watching this video randomly because I hated the Acokyte and wanted to chortle from schadenfreude. But, when it was thrown to Patrick, I thought it would be funny if it was Patrick Klepek from my Giant Bomb fandom youth (I don't know many Patricks). I was pleasantly surprised it is Patrick Klepek -- well now time to sub to a new channel!
There’s not much more to say beyond the fact that Kathleen Kennedy has hired A LOT of individuals that just don’t understand Star Wars never mind how to sell it to both pre-existing and potential (new) fans. I’m tired of the built-in excuse, “Oh
It’s all the toxic male fans!” It’s identical political labeling, “Oh you don’t like Kamala’s politics? Well then you must loooooooove Trump!” Or maybe there’s merit within criticism.
Yeah sorry but like it's absurd how many people have just been saying "Acolyte is DEI" as an insult. Have you seen the IMDB score? People need to get a grip/are legitimately being nauseating in their rhetoric around this. This show is like a meh at worst. It pushes against/talks about the Jedi's faults in interesting ways and the heavy focus on practical effects/on location shooting elevates it. Sol is especially amazing as a character also. Some creative, more thriller/horror atmospheric elements at times punch it up a decent bit. It feels mostly stifled by Disney's artist micromanagement pipeline. They're the worst at spending budgets and letting artists do what they were hired to do
@@jarg8 The artists and show runners should take responsibility and admit it didn’t do well because you have to SELL a product. That’s their job. Not push the blame to the fans which is what these untalented fools did. I’m sorry it wasn’t good at all. At the end of the day, Disney Star Wars content alone has created a near $40B deficit. Again you have to SELL a product. That’s their JOB.
This is why Marvel has reversed course and fired all their writers and have pretty much unofficially fired Brie Larson and She-Hulk actress because they’ve nearly run the brand into the ground.
@@DrDetfink oh we're still upset about Brie Larson? We cared about She Hulk? Not everything is supposed to be for everyone when these companies are utilizing brands to get as big of an audience as possible. It's like getting mad that Ms Marvel is a kids show because you want to watch everything marvel does. People need to calm down. These actresses did nothing wrong unless you're in denial about Hollywood's history/lacking in self awareness. I don't know what you're looking for from a corporate "product" but maybe you should start looking for non-IP based art because this is never going to satisfy you. Anyways, Acolyte tried to do something different even though it couldn't hold a candle to Andor but it's better than this vapid nostalgia bait like Obi Wan (literal CW quality with CW writers), Mando s3 and beyond (childish, world shrinking fan service), boba Fett (nonsense fan project), and the latest trilogy they've done (disastrous creative tug of war). It looked better, presented better, and took us to somewhere new for once. But it's Disney - the coca cola of the entertainment industry...Idk if you're still caught up on Brie Larson then there's no hope in this conversation though...
@@jarg8 Not we. I would assume those actors and their writers who were fired will be filing a personal lawsuit at some point.
What the hell? I randomly click on the this video and Patrick’s in….Whhaaaa 😂
Keanu Reeves as Revan. Gimme
I'll give rebel moon this, it at least looks its budget
I think it's the best looking show (next to Andor), the filmed a lot of stuff on location it doesn't have that look of "the volume" that other shows have. Everything looks old and used.
Please visit an optometrist.
Wait, how did it cost so much? Film it in Australia, and get a horticulturalist to put a set together with weird plants. Hell the govt would give you tax breaks.
I went in with low expectations, after I knew it was cancelled. And it was okayish. It didn’t feel like it was star wars though, maybe something to do with the effects or the photography, and the writing wasn’t amazing.
I agree with the comments on building up from low stakes, it’s all unknown characters.
Maybe it was just sht? 🤷🏻
David. How the heck are you still defending this crap
Maybe you should think about why you’re still shitting on it. Get over it and move on.
@@Redjack10 Nah. Make us.
@@Gnostic88LMAOOO
@@Redjack10 LMAO x 2
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This show was shit from the very first episode. Good riddance.