Should you get the Illusive Mirror in IDLE HEROES?

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  • The new artifact in Idle Heroes, the Illusive Mirror, has got a lot of people asking whether it's worth picking up. Today, we discuss its Pros and Cons and whether you might need it on your account.
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  • @davidharshman7645
    @davidharshman7645 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I could see a mix of Demon Bell and Illusive Mirror. 3 Demon Bell and 2 Illusive Mirror are 90 energy with a 87.5% chance of feeding at least 100...and, you still get the damage boost, CC boost, and guaranteed 30 energy feed (even when everyone is CCd.)

  • @riotvert7284
    @riotvert7284 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    DB will always top any energy feed artifact, I don't think we should consider this, I think fan would be more a better pick, also as DB

  • @nuclearcrayons3511
    @nuclearcrayons3511 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    MK did a job at explaining additive vs. multiplicity. I will teach a class.
    Additive:
    Damage x (1+ (%Dmg+%Dmg+...)
    This means the modification for your damage is added together before you multiple your base damage. So if you are already at 150% Damage and you add 2%, it's 152% damage. Using the example above:
    100 dmg x (1+(.50 + .02)) = 152
    Multiplicity is different because the additional damage modification is multipled.
    Damage x (1+%Damge) x (1+ %Damage) x ...
    Using this multiplicity, your damage actually goes up by more than just 2 damage
    100 dmg × (1 + .50) x (1+ .02) = 153 dmg
    Because we multipled 150 by 1.02, we got 1 extra damage compared to additive.
    All this to be said " if you play video games, look for multiplicity and not additive "

  • @kimf.wendel9113
    @kimf.wendel9113 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I agree, it is a "jack-of-all-trades" artifact for support heroes. And the crazy thing is that it isn't OP compared to other artifacts, despite having energy and speed.

  • @Suboriwillcometoyourhouse
    @Suboriwillcometoyourhouse ปีที่แล้ว

    But you forgot something :for demon bell there can be some speed increase for heroes and then your heroes when lunching thief actives will change every time so they won t get the full energy

  • @mjm3091
    @mjm3091 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:45 Trans Puppet in early Void Campaign will be actually even more useful I guess - if Golden Crown is not enough. Not to mention all the Carries in SL.
    14:10 Tbh they give out Artifact Chests like candy (wish that was also a case for Sublimation, but oh well). It is good that this is another artifact that you can add to the line of all the others. Because it actually doesn't take so much time to get all necessary Crowns/Strings/Bells/Scepters as it did in the past.
    14:20 I actually wonder - how much better this could be against Carrie teams. Especially in places where the order of moves aren't in our favour (like situations where Carrie eats up Demon Bell Energy buffs).

  • @ericsolo1954
    @ericsolo1954 ปีที่แล้ว

    I quite agree, an artifact that's a bit of a jack-of-all-trades but ultimately doesn't do as well as dedicated artifacts like DBs or Ruyis. However, the basic version can sometimes be useful for playing around with who uses an active skill first.

  • @wowanos
    @wowanos ปีที่แล้ว

    if the effect of the artifact stacks, we can use it for all 6 heroes, so we will have 4.5%*2*6=54% increased All damage dealt, and 36% CIO. That's massive. 54%->36%->18%->54%...(36% avarage) for ADD and 36%->24%->12%->36%...(24% avarage) for CIO
    But I am not sure if this artifact doubles the CIO or Energy gain. Maybe even both. In case of energy gain it means we will have team with continous actives and just 18% CIO(12% avarage)

  • @charlottepearce1971
    @charlottepearce1971 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think this would be okay for mff tho bc the speed and energy + the extra tankiness

  • @ryanr7802
    @ryanr7802 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about running 6 of them on a team? If your bonuses are doubled then that would give 54% all damage dealt

  • @simpysloth9654
    @simpysloth9654 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clutch, was wondering if this was worth it, cheers guv

  • @rekcusdoo
    @rekcusdoo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What this will help me with is where I need to down PVE teams in the first round and I have to have Queen faster than Vulcan or Vesa and still have her special attack go first round. No other artifact lets me do that.

  • @richivey1044
    @richivey1044 ปีที่แล้ว

    SWJ with 6 splendid's would be crazy.
    Proc round 1
    Feed - 90 end of round, 125 from actives, round bonus + Jahra core proc, so will have double cc from round 2 onwards
    If the If the control immunity offset & all dmg dealt stacks, then this could be broken (Until they fix it like Jahra's core)
    Just food for thought that this might be better than Demon Bells especially with the speed

    • @prac7940
      @prac7940 ปีที่แล้ว

      But the new artifact procs at the beginning of the battle and then the start every 3 rounds after that (round 4, 7, 10, etc). It is not better than demon bells in the slightest. You can have full energy feed with 5x splendid dbs and then run ruyi on SWJ. To break it down:
      6x splendid mirrors:
      - 18% CI offset, diminishing by 6% every 3 rounds (resets to 18 when it reaches 0)
      - shit ADD buff (27% at max is very low and less than 10% extra damage when factoring high - max trains)
      - +90 at the start of a battle and then 90 energy every 3 rounds after that.
      5x db, ruyi:
      - Guaranteed energy feed as long as no heroes get CC'd
      - SWJ will keep 225-275 energy every round with maximum feed. However, at worst, 3 heroes actives can allow her to reach 100 energy (assuming low roll on extra energy and not being hit by opponents)
      - SWJ keeps 30% CI offset (better than mirror's CI offset), and 50% CP (guarantees CC if heroes have no CI)
      5x mirror, ruyi would not work as it provides no guaranteed energy feed and would offer meaningless CI offset (assuming usage in void campaign, an extra 18% CI offset is useless considering you can retry a stage infinite times and that there are far better artifacts for every hero in these situations).
      Additionally, in PVP, this would not be a viable strategy (even if it does become meta, snowhearts will become more present as well, which nullifies the main advantage this gives: speed).

    • @richivey1044
      @richivey1044 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@prac7940 18% x 2 for having a mirror. So 36%
      Yeah still going to be a 12% drop each round

    • @richivey1044
      @richivey1044 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@prac7940 ok you got some of this data wrong:
      2x for holding a mirror
      +90 energy is every round, not every 3 rounds

  • @Dynomite42
    @Dynomite42 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for actually waiting for content to come out before you review it. It's no good to be first if your consistently wrong.

  • @Progamer-bm4dc
    @Progamer-bm4dc ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this mirror good for carrie? Cuz it gives speed and hp plus energy, speed and hp really good for carrie right?

  • @glovebox421
    @glovebox421 ปีที่แล้ว

    dear Mkxjump. this artifact is god tier if you put 1 on each of your 5 carries in cheese team for star expedition. your main hero also gain like 22% all dmg done.

    • @MKxJUMP
      @MKxJUMP  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I can promise you, this is not the best Star Expedition strategy. You get more damage dealt from a single Elyvia. A Splendid Lucky Candy bar is far more potent in SE.

  • @obadanw
    @obadanw ปีที่แล้ว

    the same thing happend with eos she looked great on leaks but nerfed to the ground on release for some stupid reasson

  • @Whimsical418
    @Whimsical418 ปีที่แล้ว

    This artifact will change the IHXC a bit possible.

  • @AndrewH1994
    @AndrewH1994 ปีที่แล้ว

    it looks like a cool artifact if you have 2-3 mirrors along with 3 DBs, maybe this could be OK, and 1 hero with an Antlers Cane or something? idk, seems like you need at least 2 splendid mirrors to make it useful, but possibly even more. so it looks like a whale artifact that isn’t even good until the whales have a way to get multiple splendid copies…

  • @Ebaggens2
    @Ebaggens2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you guys compared this to demon bell but this artifact on a support also gives all damage dealt to your carry, pretty cool

  • @kahiaugaming7399
    @kahiaugaming7399 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    however🤔

  • @NoName-cu4gr
    @NoName-cu4gr ปีที่แล้ว

    They're running out of mix and match options, before long new stuff is just going to make old stuff redundant if it's ever going to be better. Then the question is why are they doing that, other than rinsing whales. The only logical place left to go for artifact upgrade is to enable making them 4-6 star artifacts.

  • @mihneasashamorosan1931
    @mihneasashamorosan1931 ปีที่แล้ว

    If dh ever releases a better energy artifact than db i stg im gonna cry

  • @iamthemouse4483
    @iamthemouse4483 ปีที่แล้ว

    IMO, this is basically just Demon Bell but worse. It's stat bonuses aren't as good, and while it's more consistent, you need at least 16 of them to do what Demon Bell can easily do with just 12, and even theoretically do with 10 and a Jahra.

  • @fridge4322
    @fridge4322 ปีที่แล้ว

    nah cause why did mk flip us off at 2:20

  • @iskambillordu
    @iskambillordu ปีที่แล้ว

    i did the math,and it's completely a whale pvp artifact. full team wearing this artitact will get 30% damage dealt per round. since mega whale pvp is just all teams waiting for their vulcans to get into weakness disclosure status,giving him lots of all damage dealt would be awesome to have. a good artifact when you have 6 splendid of it. very whale-ish.

    • @MKxJUMP
      @MKxJUMP  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you ran a whole team of this in PvP, you'd get shredded due to no defence. Golden Crown is currently MVP in PvP.

    • @iskambillordu
      @iskambillordu ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@MKxJUMP thought gilded purpe fan was the mvp. damn,whale meta changes fast.and still,this artifact is completely irrelevant if you dont have at least 3-4 of it.don't know if it will be used at all.

  • @Kythodpemburutobrut
    @Kythodpemburutobrut ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah 2minutes

  • @QjHw-c2k
    @QjHw-c2k ปีที่แล้ว

    😊جميل

  • @syrax-cf8
    @syrax-cf8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi mk can u review my account im free to play

    • @keithswiercz3890
      @keithswiercz3890 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unless you pay for him not to have a job by donating, my guess is nope.

  • @Brendon-ox2tl
    @Brendon-ox2tl ปีที่แล้ว

    Third

  • @thormussche8977
    @thormussche8977 ปีที่แล้ว

    second

  • @jacksonjason-nt4wf
    @jacksonjason-nt4wf ปีที่แล้ว

    first

  • @itsjeboy4530
    @itsjeboy4530 ปีที่แล้ว

    second lol