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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ก.ค. 2024
- Barry Gaming recently made a video discussing Hyperspace Hunter Aylamak as your First Transcendence hero. The video had a lot of misinformation that could result in New Players making a lot of mistakes. Today, we put them straight and make sure you know exactly how to use this hero properly.
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A few other fun tips:
- If you reach your 2nd Transcendence hero BEFORE getting to 650k+ Spiritual Essence, build SQH. HHA and SQH can both support your Eloisie until you're ready to swap to LFA+SQH.
- HHA + Eloise is great for pushing Realms Gate to Void Corruption 110+, this is another reason to get those SL20 clears.
you're so wise
Does your first point also apply if instead of HHA I went with FQV?
Or is it enough to finish first row of glory challenge to go with LFAand SQH?
@@Momo-ll7liAs I said in the video. Regress the HHA when you switch to LoFA. He doesn't stay in the account. Same goes if you choose FQV. Both are just used as stepping stones to eventually swap completely to LFA+SQH when you have enough for 2 Transcendence heroes.
@@cristianolaru1249Yes, you can stay with FQV and then make SQH for the same reason. There's no point not having a 2nd Transcendence hero when you could have one. Just make sure to swap the FQV when you're ready for LFA.
Being a relatively new player and having made some mistakes... there's so much strategy that feels like is going over my head. Two accounts with E5 Garuda so hopefully can get the next few things setup and events to unlock celestial island.
Sometimes I feel like Eloise is the epiphany of a girlfriend. It is literally: Give her everything you have
She is the only one comparable to trancendence heroes. She deserves the attention 😅
She will do everything the same for you to complete game modes in the early game as well, give and take brother.
Epitome not epiphany:)
Made my day Bro 😂🙌
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Dont have a gf 🤓
thank you for the years of entertainment mk. your videos have got me through some really hard times. thank you for everything you do for the IH community!
Just discovered your channel. Been playing Idle Heroes for quite some time now, without having much of a clue on what to properly focus on. Your videos helped tremendously to get the necessary knowledge of the game. Thanks so much
12:34 can confirm, campaign cleared before first transcendence hero with tix swapped to homeowner mainly for aspen dungeon death 100, but it also helped for campaign.
I also have cleared campaign before getting my first transcendence hero using Eloise. Thanks MK!
I did it with an Eloise team as well FAR before my first trans. I was stuck for a bit but once I picked up holmes young, he pretty much blitzed me through the entire thing almost immediately lol
That's why i love watching MKxJUMP more than Barry, No bullshit, no hyping and legit guide for F2P and VIP series. All feels natural and well explained. Thanks MK! You're the best!
At this point I think Barry is doing the missinformation on purpose. He's been called out multiple times by multiple people and still something like this happens again.
Barry is the GOAT. And Barry would.smash this guy
the funny thing is mk claims barry says alot of things that he never really said, this dude mk is super manipulative. barry makes much clearer vids without the personal attacks
Bro chill@nyanisnoth your shit
MK Fan here...Barry is a bunch of fluff and doesn't value his viewer's time. 5 videos a day most of which are things like OMG my 5* can clear Seal Land cause I'm a whale.
I can vouch for the soul symbol thing. I’m fairly twitchy fingers and really regret wasting so many so early on
Me too. Took me years to learn not to spend everything i get my fingers on
Wasted 60 soul symbol coz of Barry saying SSM is good😭
The problem I have is the game used to be really about building the new hero that was meta changing and players just didn't need to swap there accounts around as much since there was just less reason for it. Once they added HO and tenant's I feel like DH games failed the players by not giving more "redo stones" in a game that is really more like Idle Heroes 2 at this point.
@@tonysobon4669 100%.
@@hexagonk9665 barry isnt the only onr saying SSM is good lmao wym? hes one of the absolute best in the game next to DTV as long as you have a high level house as strong tenants.
Appreciate the video mk definitely helps especially to new players who are a bit confused and honestly would be neat to see a different early game strat
WOO THANK YOU!! I edited my comment on Barry's video to include this video (since it shows at the top)
i really appreciate your efforts mk i have been playing for probably a couple years now and i still feel so lost when it comes to what i should be doing. i have made so many mistakes that cost me months and months of progress and i still do not feel confident about what i am doing with my account. it is so different than trying to play something like wow, where there is a wealth of information on each aspect of the game. with this game you really have to do your research to find anything it isnt given to you, but you are consistantly the best source of good info i have gotten and i am confident you will continue to be.
This is why I follow your vids, twitch and discord. You present all the FACTS, present all the pros and cons, define which pathway is more optimal/resource efficient as well as all over resource management from all the game modes.
I would just add one point with you for who it will be helpful - even for well established players who wants to try out something different as game progression in some alter account.
Thank you for making informative content for players of every category, be they are early/endgame whales or budget players or completely f2p.
You deserve our praises, good day sir!
loved the video bro i might not be very good at the game but at least i get a lot more knowledge for later game thanks to all ur vids. keep up the great work
Great video, helped me a lot! I was struggling to understand all of this stuff)
I was stuck right here and you helped a ton MK thank you!!
Great answer to Barry's video. That one really confused me
I love how calm u always are your voice is so soothing and thanks for everything u do in ur vids and the tips u give throughout the episodes!!!
I really thought you were going to yell at me for having a E3 HHA 😅😂 because I did watch Barry and I wanted to try that Eloise HHA combo so bad, it didn't go as well as I was hoping but it was fun to me, as soon as I got to my second Transcendence hero I chose DTV and kept HHA to support him being the meat shield in Void Vortex, I gotta say than that was more effective and fun, so far I'm in Dominator VI in Vortex 🤠, I really love my 2 Transcendence and they are staying till something game breaking pops up.
Thanks for the video. It's always entertaining and fun
Can confirm about what you said about the tree levels. I went Eloise and LFA, as soon as Eloise went to t3 I got rid of her and went all in on Aspen. Took 40 SS to get the t5 glory challenge done and had LFA T5 and SQH T4. You sure do know how much the tree nets you
The "redo stones" or Soul symbols factor alone is so huge and I have been crying for DH games to add more to the game since besides doing this type of things it overall makes gameplay less fun since many people have accounts older and I would love to use redo stones just to mess around a bit and try heroes that were not around when I was trying things but yeah I always try to keep 75 redo stones on me and even those can go quick. So basically I am just "piggy backing: on this video to point out GIVE US MORE SOUL SYMBOLS , the game has changed and DH games has not changed the amount a player can produce of these Stones and adding 5 per month to the game is not enough by a long shot. they said they wanted to add game modes with arcade to keep pple playing and not auto signing in and I can tell you if I ahd the freedom to mess change up my account that I am lvl 12 vip so how ever much money that is I should be able to mess around a bit.
Thanks MK. I was just thinking what sublimation i should put on LFA now i don't need to worry about putting too much on now haha
Good video for new players 👏👏👏
Love you MK
You really need to have some form of sit down video with Barry where the two of you discuss and compare your respective views on progression. Apologies if I missed when you did this in the past and it didn't work out well but it has to happen at some point.
yuh it is important for misinformation to be corrected, but i think some expressions could've been refrained
Which particular expressions did you feel could be refrained?
Hey MK, I have an E5 tix, Holmes, ithaqua and 10* ignis with V2 eloise and T4 jhara (no core yet) what should I work on? And is there a quick way to complete realms gate because I’m only at 13
MK, Do you have the bandwidth to start another series where you start from scratch using all of these early game strategies?
Shots fired at Burger gaming
Basically in recap, if your f2p or very low spender go for vesa if you are a spender take him as your first and sublime him as well as eliise
No. You completely missed the point. NEVER sublime him early. F2P can make him just fine. V3+Atk. Watch the vid again. Sounds like you only watched Barry's vid and seem to still think that's a good idea.
Thanks
Hey MK you legend, if I’m just within my first two months with E5 Eloise & not a whole lot more would FQV still be a good choice for first transcendence hero? Or would HHA be the better choice?
I am in the making of Tix to E5 next then Carrie E5 of course there’s lots of work before I decide on a transcendence hero though just curious which would be the most ideal for my first, thankyou for all you do for my growth on idle heroes. You’re awesome dude.
Hey mk, is it still meta-viable to do sfx and lfa at 2nd transcendence?
U still can but SFX will fall off sooner then going with the LFA as your damage dealer and SQH as second trans, also SFX requires energy feed to be a concistent
Mk your vids are amazing and have helped me so much keep the good content coming 👍
Best seal land clearing character for each faction? Only have done shadow cause I haven’t had many other characters in other factions
19:55 Personally - if you gonna build something that isn't Saja, just go with Holmes Young. His copies are the easiest to get (common Shelter, common reward, also for most people, unless they need Mockman or Freya - Cour 2 Trans Chest is also good thing to get your Holmes from). Shapeshift is helpful in multiple early game modes, when Eloise isn't strong enough, but a good CC can save you (especially that Campaign clear). Not to mention like Eloise - Holmes can finish SL20 before he hits E5. At this point in time - in my opinion Penny is just food.
But also - if someone is going for Aylamak as first trans. I think he should he able to finish SL20 as well? Even, if not with just E5 - maybe with some Void Imprints?
21:00 Like, you should already have your Campaign cleared before you even can get your first trans hero. And like you said Eloise + Ignis + Tix + Carrie can easily finish most stages. With anything else being solved by luck or by using baby heroes (Queen, Holmes, Amen Ra can help with some specific stages - first being good to counter crit chance of Asmodels, Holmes is always good to CC stuff like Ruda, and obviously Amen brings shields and can demolish much stronger healing heroes).
Mkx is wrong
Only argument for the "ranger" route for each SL20 is guild tech
Aylamak can do sl 20 at v3, it's rough but he can do it.
@@Pr0x1m1f1c4710n tbh - at that point you will have multiple Guild Techs finished.
I actually haven't tried normal Aylamak in SL20. Can anyone confirm if he's any good? That would be another Pro to building HHA.
A little bit drama but im here for it
I watched some videos and looked on Reddit, I was recommended to do Hsia as a first trans, after watching this video I don't know if she really is the best choice for a first trans, which is the best trans to start with? Any recommendations with pros and cons. Nice video.
Mk could you make a video about when to stop using jahra as a main carry hero and start using a bigger dmg dealer?
I would love to see that
3-2-5
i built dtv at 3-3-2, i have friends done 3-5-2 with swj
Dam. This brit took the 4th of July personally and dunked on barry
I’ve seen LFA guides, and to build SQH and PDE as supports. But what would you recommend building as a fourth transcendence hero?
MFF or SWJ.
Thanks so much! I was thinking Freya, then transitioning to a SWJ account when I can get a fifth transcendent hero.
Hello mates. I build up Doom ter. Vulcan, tried get him as max as i can but he is too weak, i thought he would be better. Im stuck at 64-9. Alreadi have ignis Tix jahra delacium and holmes yang but still my team is too weak. Actually i started build holmes yang but he is good as non transc, so i deside build Vulcan. Should i regress that Vulcan in build someone else or i need to get better support heroes for him. If that so then which heroes i should use to support?
I feel like Barry has good intentions but just is not good at breaking things down accurately, and tends to make a ton of mistakes himself 😂, I follow MK for actual progression, and Barry for BS fun 😅
Bro open your eyes
Yup, same here...I follow Barry only for CD Keys and event previews. MK is bar far cleaner and more concise with his information.
Do have links to the other creators videos if they havs tourube channel's?
I wish they had TH-cam channels!
@@MKxJUMP that sucks, but thanks for letting me know
I've Got SQH, LFA, SSM, SWJ and PDE, what should I go for as my 6th void Hero? SSM & LFA are my main house owners.
loving this
Is it worth building Elena as a third transcendence hero if I go for the Aspen route? Or should I build Jahra without belonging to any house?
yes build elena 3rd because she is a very good support and will boost stats for your aspen, then go for jahra 4th
What about mid game..is HHA worth getting to T5
Do you really have to get the noble sublimation on LFA's active skill? His 2nd passive already fears everyone if an enemy dies. Or is it so you get 2 chances to fear the enemies?
If lfa doesnt kill with active then the noble sub can help to fear the opponents which also feeds him energy for another active, pretty helpful.
ik that this is good vid when the title says "DONT BE FOOLED", cause we know he has better strats besides him laking to be a whale, besides that, top vid
Im a little slow and confused.. lol. I have 120 soul symbles I have yet to get my first transcendence hero. Who should I go with Vesa or aylamak? Also, you said you don't need a transcendence hero to do void campaign but it says you need a transcendence to do it?? I have eloise, tix, ignis and just need to make Waldek next. Thank you for the help!
It's us to you. You have to make the V4 Transcendence to unlock it, but once it's unlocked you don't have to keep that hero. So you can just go back to Eloise as your focus.
If you choose HHA, follow the pointers in this video. If you choose FQV, there's a lot of information about her already. Ultimately, you'll transfer to a different strategy when you get 2 Transcendence heroes.
@MKxJUMP okay thank you so much for the help and guidance you give to everyone. Really appreciate it!
So you are saying do the Eloise swap into whatever transc carry ( lofa, asmo, ssm,etc) at tree level 120 and NOT tree 3? I've been seeing people say tree 3 should be the swap point
I'd say, basically just do it when you have enough trans heroes for it.
I swapped eloise to LFA at tree 3 and did the first level of glory challenges. Saving soul symbols and spiritual essence for the last level of glory challenges. That has been working fairly well for me
@@nib6383 I did the exact same thing. Im on iOS server 1427 and it works so well
@@nib6383 mb its on 1419 and not 1427
I mean I know we shouldn't do the swap until we have the transc carry heros tennants built up. Otherwise we are killing ourself of a lot of lost power. But I keep reading and seeing doing the swap at tree3
Mk I want ur opinion about cores. I rly dont like jahra so much and i dont want to build her. I have SSM and HHA. What other option of cores do I have?( as I said I dont pref jahra and SAHY will be 4th or 5th trans if i decide to give him the core. If i dont build SAHY either what are my options? Maybe freya? Maybe HHA? I believe HHA core will be bad cause he is Tennant.)
I would pick SAHY, ONLY because you said no SWJ. but, SWJ is nuts, and you definitely should build her.
@MKxJUMP I just hate to follow the most optimal-used route every time. I feel like I am not playing the game this way. That's why I built SSM along with HHA without aspen and I think I am doing decent progress. I have no tree investment at HHA so he is pretty useless and I have cleared 1-5-10 at void campaign already. I am just afraid if I hurt my progress too much by going off-meta. What do u think?
Thank you for ur time, I appreciate it.
baade E5 best hero for new idlers
Ong this is good advice for early players
facts he carried me to dominator 1
Fr I cleared void campaign w him
@@Starry_2 lmaoooo
Its true tho
Can’t decide if I should go hha or fqv mainly since I already have enough copies of vesa and a b copy
YES! I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THIS! FINALLY ;)
Thank you MK for focusing on good quality content, not just quantity. This is why I watch your content as opposed to others.
Wich artifact should I use on HHA?
How much Soul Symbols are needed for complete glory Challenge ? I am now over 200mio and tought i should do that stuff too 😅
Whats the difference between early an mid game play?
You left out the 5 soul symbols you get monthly from super wishing coins. You probably won't do 50 every month your first year, but you do 50 when you can
15:39
you get 31 SWC just from monthlies every month plus other events like Sky Lab and nice events where they sprinkle us some random resources. You should get 50 a month every month after your first E5.
Should I switch SSM to LFA as my main hero?
so the conclusion is that HHA is slightly better than FQV but if I have Vesa copies and no Alyamak then i just go with Vesa?
I finished Champaign a year before my first transcendent hero 😅
How do we get our account reviewed by Mk?
If you regress a hero do you get sublimation back?
Yes you do get it back
HEY MK CAN U MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT SHILD ,,WHOSE SHILD IS STRONGER IF ALL HAVE SAME STATS "1FQV. 2 HHA. 3 MFF¿??????
So i've also asked the question of "best way to play in the early game"
And i got 2 answer 1 of them is exactly what is mentioned by the video. Like, eloise, HHA. Then replace HHA and build LFA SQH and PDE.
The second one was eloise with FQV, MFF and SQH. Essentially you still stay with your first trans. Which is the path i chose
And now both MK and barry is pretty much telling us to replace the first trans with LFA and then build SQH and PDE. And now im confused.
Should i stay with the FQV, MFF and SQH Lane
Or when i have enough resources and is prepared, should i go and replace vesa to LFA and going with the LFA SQH PDE path?
both teams are very good, although with FQV make sure you go for a jahra at some point to carry through void campaign (until 3-2-5), and clear vortex. other than that, if you have a lot of soul symbols and feel like changing your heros, then LFA SQH works great too, but its pretty much just personal preference. just remember that if your gonna make a big change, you also need to get tenants for LFA, not just swap the trans heroes, so wait until you can do all the swaps at once if you go that path.
meant 3-5-2 for SWJ carry
@@nostromo8065Is there a specific reason for going with SWJ until 3-2-5? something like Jahra can't get through that stage or?
@@Safineya I'm pretty sure at 3-5-2 SWJ gets hardstuck, forgot why that's the case, maybe a speed issue
So, i have 6 trans at the moment (Mockman as main homeowner, SFX, SWJ, SQH, FQV, LFA) and im about to build 7 trans. SFX will be kicked out of my team to just sit there as mockman tenant and im looking for best support option. Which would be best? Freya, Elena, Asmodel or Aylamak? I want to focus on pushing void campaign. I’m stuck at 2-6-6.
Just back in the game and Eloise is still the only optimal route.. they should create new good starting heroes for diversity..
Vesa is the superior first choice for all game modes when youre a noobie and just started building, if you pick a warrior youre gonna have a bad time especially with the event currently going on where they always BAN warriors
Me watching this after getting tree of origin 5 aylamak
(Just him)
i love you mk
I do love Barry he makes interesting content but he has a bad habit of spreading misinformation (not intentionally) and sometimes is just dead wrong about things
Like the treasure train item pick for anniversary
@@NoorMohammed-vl9jr Lol he then went and mocked someone for picking the same item he recommended
yeah but mk makes a lot of mistakes as well. if you want true content watch wraec, the only true endgame creator
So, Vesa or Aylamak?
So I’m kinda confused, is Vesa or Aylamak better first trans? How much of Barry’s video was inaccurate?
guys, you have to remember, MK's opinions and thoughts are the only correct things.
This video was not my thoughts and opinions. It was me explaining the work and research of people like Baldy, e, Carnage, and countless others behind figuring out how best to use HHA with Eloise. If you care about using HHA in the most optimal way with an Eloise, this video tells you how to do that.
For example, it is not my opinion that water expands when it freezes. I trust the evidence presented to me. Please do not confuse "opinion" with the efforts of research in pursuit of the truth.
Time to wait for barry to say something😂
Beef!!!????
1 year of playing gives you 60 soul symbols just from doing your super wishing coin monthlys already
At this point mk is optimal and barry is for fun
Honestly been like this for a long time ngl
@@thiemenlaars7115 yea only enjoyed him at first but now mk da goat
Nice
SFX is still the best IMO, you can still be competitive until you get Vesa for SE.
I have 2,7million trancendense thingies and cleared campaign
Barry is the GOAT. cant wait til he responds and buries this guy
Early on even as a new player, I always took Barry's info with a bucket of salt, because something felt off. Meanwhile I took MKx's info to heart, because it felt right. I guess being a businessman all my life, I could smell bs a mile off and ofcourse I value quality over quanity. Thx for all you do MKx!
great video once again! also, can confirm out of 6 accounts, ive never needed a trans hero for the campaign lol
I built this hero for void campaign. Epic flop because of the precision buff, team hardly ever get a block off.
He's amazing in Void Campaign, if you have two full Cloud Island homes: one for a damage hero (SSM, DTV, ATD, etc...) And one for HHA.
But that also means have HHA's tenants (SAHY + SFX).
So you can't really build him until you have 8+ Transcendence heroes because you'll still need tenants and support for the other hero too. MFF, SQH, PDE are all must haves before you consider HHA long term.
Hey
woooaw that's bad look.. like it is completely true that alot of things Barry say are not very precise or strait up inaccurate but i think this video is a low blow.. instead you should have talked privately with Barry and suggest a adjustment video or make a video yourself with your take on the guide without strait up throwing another content creator under the bus.. this is so unclassy i think you owe Barry an apology.. you guys should be working together instead of this childish behavior and yes your content are generally more "Meta" and Barry are usually not as serious which both are completely fine but doesn't warrant this 'attack'.. and really think it through before giving a quick and easy auto response..
If you swap to another trans hero using soul symbols, do you get back the sublimation and essence?
good qn
Yes you do, which is why his statement of never sublime hha doesn't make sense. It's better to use sublimations on him rather than the melon chest sit on your account for a year plus just to save a few soul symbols. All my f2p accounts have tons of soul symbols. It's my VIP account that doesn't.
hope this doesnt start anything between the two biggest creators in idle heroes
Hopefully it won't. I just want New Players to be safe from making mistakes.
@@MKxJUMPcouldn't agree more
The other piece of bad advice new players always take? Playing based on efficiency.
@MKxJUMP now I'm lost.. In your previous video (th-cam.com/video/62LJxxrCyQgs/w-d-xo.htmlaid) you said to transition to LOFA HO when you can do T3 glory challange stages and make him T5, glory challange T5 when you have 5 transcendence heroes and I made LOFA focused account when I was able to T5 him and I did that using a lot of soul symbols to remodel everything for him. Now you say to transition to LOFA when I'm able to complete WHOLE glory challange? I'm out of soul symbols with T5 lvl 100 LOFA and only T3 glory challange completed so I would appreciate a feedback what to do now
Penny =reliable that'd blasphemy and misinformation 😂.
Every video of her has someone begging her to just crit lol
lfa is so hot
I went HHA as first trans. I regret nothing.
People that go to Barry for accurate information have lost control of their life. He is entertaining, but accurate info is not what makes him tick. HE often does not even know basic things of the game.
Moo
i think this is wrong. all you have to do is invest 100.000$ into treassure train and this is good plan. HHA first trans legit.
Hallo
i dont think ive ever listened to barnacle boy, will continue not to.