@@ratstanduser its still going its ridiculous. what was realy fun to see go down was the jack/rapunzel and jack/elsa shipping war.god tumblr wars are fun
I hate it so much😂 cause I really love the movies individually but I despise those crossover. But tbh people shipping Elsa with Jack are the worst oMg THey hAve iCe pOweRs tHey NEED tO bE a cOupLe... Uh-huh and you don't see the lesbian energy Elsa vibrates or are you just blind?
that and all those: "merida can be seen entering the castle with elsa and anna at *insert time stamp from that one scene in frozen*", on top of really blurry gif of a little blob of red moving around in a crowd of.... mostly just hair lmao not sure i had tumblr yet but i remember those posts leaking over into facebook. i never understood what the obsession was, especially since i was relatively new to the internet to start with. for like a year i just assumed there was actually a movie coming out that combined the 2 series and everyone was looking for easter eggs
I had never even heard of this fandom EVEN ONCE and I was on tumblr constantly during this time. I saw your comment and it all came back to me like a smack in the face
It's funny, when this fandom was big, I was phasing out of fandom obsessions and my younger cousin was phasing into this one, so one day I found her writing a JackxElsa fic on her phone and told her "I used to do that in my old fandoms too!" So she asked me to read her fic and proofread it for her, it was really sweet ❤
Wait no bc this is wholesome in every way. You opting not to judge or call your cousin cringe or anything like that and allowing her to have that phase is absolutely amazing! Imo having that phase is just fun, and you get to enjoy yourself!
@@dixiewhite2698 Can you imagine anything more embarrassing than having to go to your parents and ask for money to get a tattoo lasered off because literally no one will take you seriously with a handlebar mustache on your finger?
I felt so much pain watching this. This transported me straight back to my rise of the brave tangled dragons phase. I remember being so heartbroken and upset when people shoved aside Jackunzel for Jelsa. I was so atrociously anti-Jelsa. I was such a salty child. Was anyone else on the Instagram role play side of this fandom?
Yoooo, i disliked Jelsa as well (mainly because of how popular it was that almost everything was centered around them and how there were toxic shippers) but I never really trashed the ship or the shippers (respectfully hate maybe?) I shipped Jarida (there is so little content for this ship, its so sad) and Mericcup (with Jackunzel)
I also hated Jelsa so much, just because I didn't like Elsa as a character, didn't find her appealing or fun, I still think to this day that she is a quite flat character, Anna has much more personality on Frozen 1 and I didn't get the popularity of Elsa. Also, shipping just because they shared the same powers... Boring. Jack was such a fun character, in my head he needed something more fun, or crazy than Elsa. I loved Jarida, and Hijack, and also Jackunzel, they made more sense to me idk.
I never knew about all this big fandom until today. I just remembered seeing fanarts of Jelsa and ignoring it, cuz I wasn't really a big shipper in those days, until I saw Hiccup and Jack Frost content. I wasn't a fan of it, but I kinda liked it. In fact, gay shipps in general were the first thing for me to be a little close to what now we know as "representation". And thanks to my happiness of seeing queer characters existing I became a shipper.
The fact that dark Rapunzel now canonically exists in that universe and pretty much looks exactly how the fandom headcanoned her with the pitch black eyes and black hair will never not be funny to me.
It’s kinda funny knowing that “Rise of the Brave Tangled Frozen Dragons” essentially became the go-to fandom place to create/view animated crossovers. As someone who was completely absorbed into this fandom during my middle school/high school days, it’s kinda neat to see this fandom being discusses without completely disregarding it just a “sign of the times”. I’m pretty sure this fandom is what helped me get into writing and other creative endeavors, so I have to give it thanks for that.
Oh god, this makes me instantly remember how I made an “anti-Jesla hate” FaceBook page at 12 years old because the ship got so popular it was popular to hate it lmaoo. What a time the internet was.
As someone who was in the editing scene around that time, one of the big reason why those crossovers were so popular was thanks to the green screen packs you could find on youtube. Editors shared green screen of those characters and since editing was becoming more and more popular, greenscreens were an easy way for kids to make edits they were proud of.
I was totally astounded the first time I saw one of the edits. I think it was this really edgy one with ‘Control’ by Halsey and the creator actually made doubles of the characters because this AU contained some sort of “alter ego” for each character- where they basically had the opposite colour palette and a bunch of tattoos. It was so well made in the eyes of preteen me that I genuinely thought it was an actual dreamworks production, I bet the video is still up too.
17:20 That was honestly one of the biggest problems when trying to find anything Hiccup/Jack related online. If you looked up Hijack, you'd get some action movie and a bunch of crime stuff. Frostcup has always been the superior name, but only like 1/4 of the Fandom used it! 😔
Before any of these movies came out I remember being a 13 year old on deviantart where my absolute OTP was a crossover. Willet, which was Wilbur Robinson from Meet The Robinsons, and Violet Parr from The Incredibles. The fandom never blew up so I basically gobbled up all the fanfiction and art I could get my hands on. Some similarly very impressive edits were also created. I remember my favourite fic from the time was about Violet being cryogenically frozen during a solo fight with a villain. Decades later she's discovered and revived and has to resume her highschool life (in class with Wilbur Robinson) whilst dealing with the angst of her parents being old retirees and her brothers being middle aged with families.
something i will say about crossovers, as a neurodivergent person, is that crossovers appeal heavily to neurodivergent people because sometimes? the mere thought of two or more of your hyperfixations/special interests being in just the same general area just gives you an unfathomable amount of serotonin, hence why a bit more weirder things like pooh's adventures are such a thing. plus, i remember being in middle school and being a little too obsessed with (cough) hetastuck...
When I was younger, I'd imagine a certain crossover between kids novels (diary of a wimpy kid, big Nate, captain underpants jermino Stilton get the point already) and one particular thing I can say is for the "who is the best protagonist of all these books" it was pretty obvious Greg heffley was the lowest tier
As someone that was in the fandom, I can actually tell you why it was called The Big Four. It came from a line in Rise of the Guardians where Pitch says "The Big Four" in reference to Sandman, North, Bunnymund and Toothiana. So it just kind of went from there. But like legit, I never thought I was going to ever see a youtuber talk about this. I was and still am a huge Jerida/Jarida shipper. My wife and I used to make edits of them. 😂 so legit you've just made my day. Thank you. 😁
I'm also a huge Jarida shipper, and it's so sad that they only had a limited number of content (like fanart/fanfic) I even traded Jarida fanfics with my Jelsa shipper friend FireXIce Supremacy
All I remember about Brave is that we watched it on Christmas Day and found out my hamster was dead about halfway through when we went to give him his Christmas presents. 4/10 had a lot of aesthetic forests
I'd argue Astrid and the twins fit into conventionally attractive, at least as far as Hiccup does. Astrid was just redundant because there's already Merida and the twins had little development and not much beyond comic relief bg characters. They also don't have iconic colours or elements they could easily embody. Is like Power Rangers or magical girls, need a theme colour and they were mostly blonde with shades of brown.
Ahhh, I remember seeing those things coming out in the 2010s. I remember seeing many thumbnails and edits of the Jack Frost and Elsa ship. You did an excellent job at explaining the history of how the big 4 fandom became very popular. Keep up the great work!
My grudge with these kinds of big crossover groups is that when you're trying to find fic for the smaller involved fandoms, half the tag will be those crossovers. And while two fandom crossovers are generally fine content, once you get three or more they're either constantly competing for screentime to explain everything, and/or the characters are so divorced from their original cast and context that they're utterly devoid of content as far as their home fandom goes. Which on its own is fine, whatever people find fun. It's just really annoying to have to sift through an already very tiny fic pool to find stories that are actually about your fandom.
I remember trying to find some casual HTTYD fics with Hiccup and his friends/family just hanging out and having fun, and having to sift through mountains of Big Four fics. Thank the lord for the AO3 exclude fandom function.
@@beanboy5963 Worship the ability to exclude tags! I’ve abused it so much that with one tag I keep open I managed to reach the character limit and got an error so now I have to remove tags if I want to add more
Don't forget when people incessantly write fanfiction about a specific fanwork based on another piece of media. I love HLVRAI and all but God DAMN, whenever I try to find any half life fanfics on ao3 I always find ONLY HLVRAI works.
@@beanboy5963 The exclude fandoms option is a godsend. Although I'm the kind of foolish optimist who thinks maybe there's a crossover with only the one fandom somewhere in there that I'd miss out on if I excluded it, so I end up not excluding anything and making life unnecessarily a lot harder for myself.
As for the "attractive teen with a bunch of not-so-attractive side characters movie" you did the Rise of the Guardians crew dirty, there's way too many people out there who would love to get freaky with North or the Easter Bunny, even the Tooth Fairy is remembered as a childhood crush for many.
I've seen Bunnymund fanfiction, people do find him hot which I'll never quite understand. But I am team North deserved better, North deserves a Tumblr Sexy Man title, dammit.
Agreed! Also I forget her name but the love interest in HTTYD is well loved and very pretty as well. I saw a good comment mentioning that it may have been more that they where all the most developed and easily relatable characters in their movies. Thier all teens with similar themes and the fact that thier all "pretty" is just how film is. It's also been pointed out that Merida is NoT attractive in the same way that the others are. She's drawn to be you g and childlike, it's part of her story. Yet she doesn't feel like second rate in the fandom. Idk I'm just loving this comment section and have seen so many people pitching in as to why exactly we all loved these characters so much
like 6 years ago i read a hiccelsa fanfic on ao3 and it was literally one of the best things i had ever read. i cant find it and i assume it was deleted out of shame but that person should NEVER EVER feel ashamed of that masterwork. it was genuinely fantastic writing and i mourn it every day
I hate when that happens. I've learned that, if I find a fic I like even a LITTLE, I save it immediately: copy/paste to a document, download it, whatever. I have at least two fics that I know for a fact have since been deleted or lost due to a site overhaul. So happy that I can still revisit them despite that. 😊
Every fanfic person has that one fic that blew them away and often times they don't have the forethought save it just for enjoyments sake in case what you just said happens. There's this one teen wolf fanfic that's basically a novel that I keep on my phone and reread time to time (SO good)
when it comes to disney crossovers, you have only just barely scratched the surface. the most fascinating crossover fandom i've seen is the youtube fanfic video demographic where they do these video edits that range from shitty to downright impressive. they spend hundreds of hours of their lives splicing and masking footage from various movies together, essentially creating the most high effort fanfics I have ever seen, many of which do not have any dialogue, so it's actually pretty fascinating how they approach storytelling sometimes. me and a friend spent hours watching them on youtube once, it was really entertaining. boy do they get dark and sexual sometimes, though. there is one that's like 10 minutes long that is just a giant collaboration between many creators where characters from dozens of films are transforming into other animal characters like they're all in some kind of animal shifter shared universe. that one looks like it'd be a hell of a rabbit hole to fall into if you ever decided to dig deeper into that AU's lore.
It would be so cool to see Izzzy make a video about the cursed invader zim fandom. It's one of the most toxic, annoying, and gross fandoms I've ever been in (like not quite undertale level, but def top 5) but it's got its fair share of odd ships and crossovers and MOUNTAINS of fics. I've heard Izzzy mention it several times, but a video about the fandom would be so, so interesting tbh XD
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I do wanna acknowledge Hiccup does feel Slightly different from the generic protagonist because he is disabled - as someone with a chronic health issue that caused my leg to be really fucked up, him being an amputee with what is essentially a service animal was significantly more impactful to me than the rest of the cast :)
How to train your dragon was such a big part of my life growing up lol. I think i might have owned all the hardcovers growing up, (?? I really thought i only had like half but on further inspection i recognize all of them) and the first and second movie respectively were so important to me as a kid in the 2010s, i have no idea why. Im pretty sure we even played the main theme of the first movie in my middle school concert band class, 50/50 on whether it was me who suggested it to my teacher lmao. I think Dragons was my first big special interest in media, (warriors was next) my autistic self couldnt get enough of it
I never knew this fandom existed, but I cannot express what I feel towards it. Its existence makes so much sense to me and the edits make me feel weirdly nostalgic... I love this ❤
My older sister used to be OBSESSED with the big four (so much so I thought it was an actual movie but cut me some slack I was like 5 or 6) recently she told me that back in the day she pretty positive she shipped Jack and Repunzel more than Repunzel and Eugene but by the looks of it, it seems like everyone else on the Internet felt the same way
I never got into any of these fandoms that heavily but one of my best friends did and, oh man, the nostalgia of staying up at sleepovers just listening to them ramble about The Big Four and their favourite ships and which character was better, etc etc
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I remember I was obsessed with Jerida and always used to fight with jackunzel shippers because I found a fan fic that perfectly aligned their universes and I was adamant about it being the superior ship. Then Jelsa came along and united us shippers. Ahhh, memories.
Man... This was literally my first real introduction to the internet when I was 11 and my first fandom EVER, and i remember learning so much about editing thanks to the people I met, knowledge that to this day is still useful to me. I have very nice memories of this fandom and the people in it , I in fact was one of the most popular Brave accounts at the time being only 13, and it was absolutely amazing days that i had since these were the days were the internet began raising me.
thank you so much for that comment at the end that cringe culture is dead and we should continue pursuing our dreams. as someone who was sorta kinda part of this fandom when i was a teen, watching this video made me cringe at myself. but having someone like you explain the fandom and then just as quickly turn around and say that it was 100% fine to like it makes me feel really nice
I was in this fandom when i was like 11, and lemme tell ya it gets worse. There used to be Jelsa fan accounts on instagram where they would make stories using a 4 panel comic style. They would edit pictires from the movies to make it look like they were in the same place and story. Then they often added other characters. I remember it being a big thing of jelsa vs jack and rupunzel? I think? Anyway there were tons of different stories and all of them were nuts. I even remember reading one where elsa had a kid (it was just baby anna with edited white hair) but she had fuckin cancer with the little edited in tubes and everything. My 11 year old self was obsessed with these stories i thought they were some agnsty good shit 😂
I also don't think it's any surprise that all of this coincided with CGI movies finally creating human characters that looked attractive to a wide audience. As a huge Disney fan during 2010 who was mourning the gradual decline of hand-drawn animation, How to Train Your Dragon and Tangled really felt like the first movies to really nail CGI human character designs and movement. Before those, the computer-animated films with the most prominent older fandoms tended to be Pixar movies that centered around animated objects or animals. There were exceptions (i.e. Shrek or The Incredibles), but they either crossed into the uncanny valley or were extremely stylized. I genuinely do think that both Disney and Dreamworks finally nailing how to animate CG humans in a similar way to traditional hand-drawn character animation was a huge contributing factor, and those movies telling stories about relatable teenagers only helped. I'm sure that if early-2010s Tumblr culture existed in the early-90s something similar would probably rise from The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, and Aladdin all releasing so close together and revitalizing interest in both Disney and animation as a whole among teens and adults.
Not gonna only obsess over the looks but I’m literally 20 seconds into the video and dear god Izzy, this is the most jaw dropping look I’ve seen from you. Not the most labor intensive or ✨aesthetic✨ but even my ace little heart was like 😳😍
This video brought back a lot of long-forgotten cringe. I remember having arguments with my friend in the high school library because she shipped Jelsa when I shipped Jackunzel when clearly Elsa was their daughter. Some of the edits in this video I remember saving onto my computer. Lots of nostalgia. But, despite how cringe it was, I still look upon these memories fondly. Weird to be a part of this brief and extremely weird internet phenomenon.
Elsa as a Jackunzel lovechild sounds like a cool concept, it makes sense with Elsa having some resemblance to Rapunzel, with the hair color and eye shape
When I was young I always remembered people made Disney edits of characters interacting with each other, but when I first watched it I thought it was real.
I literally have vivid memories of a childhood friend excitedly showing me Jack frost x elsa stuff and I hadn’t seen either frozen or guardians at the time and was confused when I watched frozen and slowly realized they weren’t from the same thing… I had no idea this fandom existed from that day up to this day holy damn
L O L The only exposure I ever had to this fandom was finding out that people were shipping Elsa and Jack and being simultaneously confounded but seeing why it would be a thing people would latch onto. Yeah, a lot of it looks reaally cringey from an outside perspective, but I'm almost 40. At this point, I've just learned to let the kids do their goofy shit and not pay them any mind unless someone is actively getting hurt. Kids are gonna be kids, and they need to be allowed to stretch their creative muscles, even if as adults it just looks strange. Let's face it; we all did it when we were that age, too. There is no one alive whose past isn't also super cringey to someone else. XD
I'm like 24 years younger than you and I only know about Jack and Elsa ship from that time. Thanks for being understanding tho, lots of adults just shit on us without trying to comprehend our weird teen phases. 🧍🏻♂️ the formative years are always the most crazy and creative tbh
@@Duhgel Luckily, most of the Millennials I know are old enough to have reached the point of "live and let live." lol From what I've seen, the Millennials and the Gen Z'ers have the same fatalistic nihilism, only where we made ourselves feel apathetic towards life, you guys took it and made it a "The World Is Ending, Let's Party As The World Burns!" sort of atmosphere, and it amuses me. It's just the older Gen X'ers and the Boomers that are having trouble getting over their weird hangups. It's kind of refreshing, honestly. I wish I still had all that energy and optimism despite the entire world burning down around us. Keep the creativity and optimism, don't let anyone tell you your hobbies are cringey because others think they are, that's the way I've finally let myself feel after all this time. Everyone needs an outlet that lets them feel happy and safe, and if you need to write terrible self-insert fanfic crossovers with Harry Potter and The Wizard of Oz, then who is it hurting to let you do it? Truth be told, you don't ever stop doing it, you just go through a phase where you're too embarrassed to let it out of your head and onto paper where it can be read by others. Even us oldies have our mental self-inserts. 😆
i remember very clearly how i was fascinated by the fanart that it spawned. no joke there were some extremely talented artists working on very detailed artwork with these four characters, and i remember that a lot more than these photorrealistic edits (maybe it was because of who i followed, idk). similarly, i feel that when frozen dropped its hype kinda swallowed and killed robtd; i personally dont remember much in the way of crossover between the big four and frozen, mostly because frozen was a whole beast of its own
I remember being 7 in 2013 and 8 in 2014 and loving frozen and all things Elsa. I remember seeing a few jelsa videos and a few jack frost x rapunzel videos. In 2015, I remember watching a jelsa sims 3 lets play series by the English Simmer. Even now I occasionally go back to re watch it for nostalgia. also speaking of the sims 3 nostalgia, I also used to watch the princess games. I forgot who exactly made it but i remember their username had fox and coffee in it, I know they had multiple usernames throughout time on yotuube though. Those videos were essentially where the disney princesses (and queen) would go through a hunger games type series and the winner would be the remaining survivor. I was so happy Elsa survived lol. However, those videos have since been privated and all that remains is the sims 4 remake of them, however those videos have the comments turned off. It's sad because one day I was going to re watch them for nostalgia purposes.
Brave made me cry of frustration because of all the wasted potential. I felt my soul being absolutely crushed when they introduced the bear plot. I was dealing with mommy issues and I felt seen and heard because the narrative seemed like, for once, it was on the daughter’s side. I was hoping to watch with my mother so she could finally understand what I’ve failed to tell her (I was in foster care as well, so I wanted a way to express to her the hurt and pain she caused me growing up before I was sent away). But no. They had to Introduce a whole new plot that had shit to do with anything. Yes, I’m still upset. No movie has ever came close to the first part of Brave. I completely forgot about the bear plot until like last year when someone did a video essay on Brave. It’s like my brain blocked it out as a trauma response 😂😂
@@Trollestiatumblur Agreed. Plus, it's deeply ironic how the protagonist of Disney's "empowered", "feminist" action movie saves the day by learning how to sew. Like...why couldn't she just fight Mordu and break the curse or something? In my opinion, Raya and the Last Dragon is everything Brave should have been.
@@marvelousTUD I heard Raya and The Last Dragon was a good movie, I feel like the last person to have seen it. It gets compared to ATLA a lot (in good and bad ways) I will definitely watch that movie next
Rise of the Guardians was one of one of those movies that “flopped“ in theaters, but was a huge success with audiences and wins the hearts of everyone I’ve ever seen who has watched it for the first time.
I remember being 8 and seeing a bunch of videos of jelsa and fire Elsa. At the time I didn't know what tumblr was, or shipping, or fanfics, or anything really. But I really liked jelsa with all my heart.
I swear Izzy is the person who literally speaks out what I saw in the internet and wondered why it exists. She's doing our confuzzled thoughts a favor.
21:21 how could you not mention the popular 2010s animated TV show trifecta Gravity Falls, Steven Universe and Over the Garden Wall, which come together to form the most glorious multifandom name I've ever heard: Steven Falls Over
the most insane thing to me about shipping rapunzel with every single attractive contemporary animated character is that she and eugene have easily the sweetest and healthiest romantic relationship in any animated franchise?? for being such a genuinely supportive and selfless love interest eugene gets cast aside and forgotten so much 😭
Noooo but speaking as someone who shipped Rapunzel with like basically anybody I could think of while simultaneously being a huge New Dream shipper I always didn't put Eugene in my aus or even killed him off dramatically because I was like "If Eugene is around there's no way Rapunzel would fall for someone else" 😭
Oh wow I had buried that jack frost onceler gif DEEP in the back of my mind Also, this reminded me of the Bad End Friends, it was another super popular tumblr crossover fandom with the eViL 🤪😈 versions of characters like dipper finn and wirt. I think it'd be really cool to see an Izzzyzzz video on that :]
I liked coming across "mystery kids" stuff, which was just a collaboration or Coraline, Over the Garden Wall, Gravity Falls, and I think in more recent years Hilda?
@@emmy_platinum Mystery kids was always one I LOVED as I as into the spookier type of shows, but it was always hard for me to find proper content for it, but I am now remembering an entire comic someone was making about it and I am now about to hunt that down at 5:30 in the morning
Rapunnzel being a ravenclaw is because she'd gets written as luna lovegood, plus her creativity rather than smarts. her drive to have knowledge of the lanterns and where they come from is the driving force of her movie. she also works well in hufflepuff as she is extremely loyal and kind, hiccup.. hiccup could be all four houses, he is the one guy you could debate for hours on each. yes, he is the smartest but so is Hermione and she's Gryffindor.
@@editaudioaestheticI agree honestly when it comes to hiccup I’m sure it would be something akin to Harry Potter where he kinda adds his input on which one he prefers. However I do think that Ravenclaw fits him best. I mean just look at the things he’s made, 2 flying suits, multiple fire blades, a new leg, a huge map, a new tail wing for toothless, and learned how to fight/train dragons just by watching toothless. If he doesn’t belong to raven claw the most I don’t know what to tell ya.
@@editaudioaesthetic Rapunzel also seems to enjoy books, though that might be because she only had access to THREE her whole life, and seeing and looking at others was probably exciting. But still. Yeah hiccup being hufflepuff makes no sense, and honestly having multiple characters in one house makes sense for them being friends, right??
Man this brings back memories! Never was in the fandom itself but it was a constant presence - I saw it everywhere. Hell, one of my longtime friends is still in the fandom today. I always like that you touch on both sides of fandoms in your vidoes. Yes, it can be intense at times with unnecessary drama, but at the end of the day, the core of a fandom is, or at least should be, just people having fun and that's really what ROTBTG is. It's really impressive that this fandom is still alive and strong today, great vid as usual! :)
Omg yes I could not have said it better! All cringe and drama aside, people were and still are happy creating stories and art for this fandom which is the most important thing - having fun
Oh my lords, the drawing of Hiccup at 13:52 IS MINE. Of ALL places to see a blast of the past is seeing your own art YEARS later online (I am SO curious, where did that one drawing end up without my old account name? I still have the psd of it....). A NOTE on that, I wasn't too keen on Hiccup being Earth at the time as I wanted him to be the wind but for shenanigans and headcanons and such between people I had to go with earth. I NEVER leave comments anywhere, this was enough to pull that curtain. Very fun video, first I watch on your channel and beautiful fashion style!
@@kittykittybangbang9367 before starbucks started promoting official limited time instabait drinks, "secret menu" starbucks orders were very popular in the early/mid 2010s. I definitely remember secret menu unicorn and mermaid frappes that just sounded like a batistas nightmare, as you had to rattle off a long and specific order since you couldnt order them by name as these secret menu items didn't actually exist (yet).
i was so obsessed with this. fans were so convinced that they were really gonna make a movie with the big four and when elsa came into once upon a time, everyone thought they’d bring in jack to be with her. a very strange fandom but the edits are genuinely really great
What did not help with that was the director/writer of Rise of the Guardians then endorsed Jelsa and said he wanted it to happen (then again, he’s like obsessed with shipping Jack Frost with almost female character he can find)
@@exammole4545 I have so much unfortunate info about the director’s shipping exploits. He once tried to say that a REAL LIFE woman was so in love with Jack Frost, she threatened to K word herself if he didn’t return her feelings.
I have a lot of respect for weird crossovers because the way people are able to fit together different plots and characters is just so creative and fun? Like, it can be cringe, but I like them on principle. I’m actually pretty involved with the current White Collar/DC fandom, which isn’t huge, but still oddly popular for how random of a crossover it is. It’s mostly based on a few works from a couple years ago that took off, and the discord that was started (I was one of the first ten members of the discord, and while I’m not a big figure in the fandom, I’ve been a passive observer for the last year or so) that helped people interested in the crossover get connected with other fans, which I think is a big part of the rise in recent works. For me, as a depressed 19 year old shut inside the house during a pandemic and unable to see my IRL friends, it was more about the fact that I stumbled into a community than it was about the crossover material itself, if that makes sense. It was really awesome to have a group of people who cared about the same niche fandom as I did, and that sparked my creativity and made me want to write, not because it was my single favorite fandom or whatever (I’d be hard-pressed to pick just one primary fandom, because that’s just not how I make and consume content), but because I knew there was this group of people who would read what I wrote and say nice things about it. This is all to say that I think a lot of it’s about other fans, not just the characters
Are those Dc/White Collar crossover about Tim or Bruce being Neal as an undercover identity? cause if so i may have read it too, through the timkon tag, my otp
I seen some of these niche fandoms evolve into something separate from the source material, such as changing the copyrighted characters into completely different/original characters and story. It's weird, but oddly interesting to see and even nice.
I remember being in the HetaOni fandom (Hetalia x Ao Oni) and the level of production and talent that was put in some of the artwork still amazes me to this day. Those were fun times.
Honestly, as someone who grew up on YT from 2008-2012, this fandom basically just felt like an evolution of ‘animash’ crossover AMVs to me. I never rly understood the appeal of crossover edits, which largely focused on editing Disney/popular animated movies’ characters together for a new narrative, but the existence of this fandom did not surprise me with that background lmao. Only surprising thing was how popular they were all collectively together on tumblr but tbh that just tended to be how 2012s tumblr rolled.
Fuck, I miss those days. So many old AMV/Animashes have been removed over the years. Literally a bucket load of nostalgia that I would love to have back 😭
I vividly remember absolutely loathing Jelsa for no more than one specific reason It's just 2 ice power people so people went "ohoho ice cubes, let's ship" and I did not stand for that lol
i used to like it because of the ice powers really (and bc i was 13 and had no clue and just shipped characters all over) but now that i think about it its so dumb.........like they literally have nothing in common except the ice powers and having sisters
I was the same too! And I specifically hated the “Enemies to lovers” trope, but only if it was with two characters from other’s works, if it was between someone’s custom characters them it is okay
personally the reason I didn't like it was because Elsa was like 25 and even though Jack was 300+ years old, he still looks and acts like a 14 year old and that was enough for me to be against it, but it could have been worse.... don't worry, I didn't go and scream at Jelsa shippers, (that would be just cringe and rude.)
25:22 "Technically both had a large group of friends and sidekicks but because they weren't conventionally attractive they were seen as mostly irrelevant." If Astrid isn't conventionally attractive then my interests as a teen must have been unconventional lol.
personally i think she was excluded because they already had a blonde girl main character And a female character who was physically skilled. also maybe astrid was a bit too boyish for tumblr hipster edits...?
@@SkiddlyBink Yeah that sounds like a reasonable explanation. Personally, I have historically not been able to tell that someone is considered a tomboy until someone else points it out lol. When I was younger I think all that word meant to me was "hot" lmao
I didn't ever want to go into this fandom, it looked so intense. I saw a book about it on wattpad (a Jelsa book with TONS of engagement, both good and bad) and the pictures on pinterest years back and just watched from the sidelines, in awe. Thank you for this video, you just brought me back some memories!
I was too busy on Percy Jackson Pinterest to dive into this fandom but I was constantly bombarded with the edits scrolling through the geek or humor categories back in 2013-2015
You just got into the intense side of it in its time of great turmoil. If you were introduced to its part where there were just 4 teenage crossover friends mingling and displaying their unique traits then who knows, maybe you'd be dragged in like the rest
Man, this fandom really embodies everything about early 2010's fandom culture. I was never a part of it but it always seemed so... interesting? I guess?? This one and the "Disney" crossover one.
For some reason I hated this fandom as a young teen because I viewed them as the 'cool hipster fandom' that were encroaching on the 'real' nerdy fangirls who liked wtnv, homestuck and like marvel lol. As if we weren't all spending all day being cringe on the Internet instead of like going outside lol.
Since every season has an associated element, it was typically: Jack - Winter - Water (cuz, yknow) Merida - Summer - Fire (obvious) Hiccup - Autumn - Wind (flying) Rapunzel - Spring - Earth (magic flower)
Oh my god nothing like realizing you’re part of fandom history! lmao I founded the original the-big-four group on dA with a friend of mine before passing it on to other people after leaving the fandom. It was a wacky crossover but we all had a lot of fun. Thanks for the walk down memory lane!
Alrighty, I have a lot to say: 1.Wasn't expecting you to call Pitch a tumblr sexyman with no hesitation. 2.The one part about the whole dark au, I gotta point out that black haired Merida looks like Bellatrix Lestrange 3.I almost got sucked into this fandom in the past 4. I agree that Rapunzel would be earth and Hiccup air. 5. Hiccup would most likely be in in Griffindor not Hufflepuff. That man is brave. 6.Why is there a fifty shades of grey au!? 7.Can't believe no one thought of the big four being poly. 8.This is just people looking a kids movies and going what if we mess with the multiverse and mix them together, quite literally. 9.I need a fanfiction that has every single one of these characters, I'd read it 10. most of them have some major parent issues, all have varying degrees of trauma 11. Non attractive? Ha, I had a crush on Ruffnut I apologise for the rant (I can't spell)
Personally I see Hiccup as more of a Ravenclaw. They’re inquisitive right? Hiccup loves learning. He finds the dragon and literally studies it because the dragon manual had no info on night furies. He was also shown to be very invested in his map making in the second movie and finding new lands and stuff. So as much as it was a thing back then to categorize characters I’d say both Rapunzel and Hiccup would be in Ravenclaw house. XD sorry for the essay. Also I totally y’all’s points too.
While I really liked this fandom, my best friend LOVED it. She had a Tumblr ask blog, she actively talked to others in the fandom, and wrote a lot of fics. I actually drew fanart for her via her suggestions. She even wrote out a whole AU mainly focused on Hijack that I drew comic pages for. I still have appreciation for it (it's basically one big polycule, so course I do) and I do know many awesome people who were in the fandom at one point.
We love polycules here. And also this fandom just seems so interesting and also has characters that I love, and they do all seem to go together very well!
I agree that Hiccup should be wind and Rapunzel earth. That goes well with their seasons as well. I disagree with the Merida is Fall and Hiccup is Summer. Personality wise they are the other way around. Making Merida fall because she has red hair is the only reason I can see for it and that is a poor reason. Also why is Rapunzel, who while smart was more about showing care and loyalty to others, in Ravenclaw while Hiccup, who did show care but who had a substantial amount of his character arc focused on showing that brains beat brawn, in Hufflepuff? I am all for these tropes but…. Do they even trope?
I think Rapunzel fits wind more seeing how free-spirited and high energy she is. Also the fact that her breaking free from her chains is a theme that I personally see working more with wind than earth.
I've seen Rise of the Brave Tangled Dragons every now and then on Pinterest, DeviantArt, and tumblr. Each time I saw it, my Big Sister™ instincts would activate and I'd actively encourage the creativity. It's just so cute and heartwarming to see kids doing what they love, no matter how crappy the editing is. There's just something about it that makes me see the artist in them, and I love it.
I know right? Honestly, compared to other fandoms, this super crossover just looks fun and run entirely on headcannon. I have known the Elsa and Jack Frost pairing for a while. But I didn't know people has been shipping this movie character I don't even remember with all kinds of teen girl protagonists.
The big 4 is one of the least offensive fandoms I've ever seen, personally. Fans were always creative and nice, and honestly they picked the characters that I was drawn to as a neurodivergent person, so I might have joined the fandom had I discovered it at its start :)
I think that’s probably because it mostly consists (and has always consisted) of kids, younger teens, and neurodivergent people like us. It’s pretty damn cool how positive ROTBTD is and more or less always has been.
I always really appreciate how you approach these topics, I had my toes in like ALL of the fandoms you've covered, I'm STILL involved in some of them, and hearing someone talk about it in a way that isn't derogatory and mean-spirited is so nice, You're always very refreshing to watch especially because I love learning about all these weird internet phenomenon, but I hate the way most people talk about them
yes like even if it’s considered cringe now at least they were happy and clearly not hurting anybody there’s not much to gain from bashing it other than maybe a laugh and a few clicks which you can still get by not bashing it
yeah, i love how she actually compliments the hard work and love put into the fanarts and fanfictions and stuff. like sure its a little strange but you can see the care put into it and thats kinda sweet
I love how the majority of comments here are long, detailed accounts of people’s experience with this fandom and how it shaped them as a person in some sort of way. It’s incredibly nice to see a video that was able to touch something really special in a lot of people, and also see that reflected in the comments section with little to no scorn from “outsiders”
Agreed! Also I don't see how this fandom would ever deserve scorn, except of course from pretentious "grown ups". It was extremely fun and creative. Also, a gang of characters with potentially interesting dynamics is always great. I have extreme respect for anyone who put their heart and soul into the art and stories, it's great to see people thrive creatively or get a first few tastes of being creative.
I joined the fandom cause I was just like "oh there's a crossover movie?" and then I found out it was just a thing on the internet and I got way too involved, I read fanfiction, I made art (the art consisted of bases and stick figures with hair but art nonetheless) and it was something I entirely forgot about
I really miss the early 2010's. I spent such a large portion of that era online so I witnessed it all, and as cringe-worthy as it was... it was already pretty enjoyable
When I was younger I loved the “Secret Trio”, which was a crossover between Danny Phantom, Jake Long, and Randy Cunningham. All of them had secret alter egos and dark spiky hair, so I guess that was why they were put together 😂
@@davidhong1934 the show wasn’t popular. I’d say it’s underrated, but that’s just my personal opinion. The jokes were bad and the characters were meh, but for some reason it was my favorite out of the three anyways 😂. Unfortunately it was cancelled on a cliffhanger and the rest was history.
@@davidhong1934 To be fair all three were fairly short running shows Jake Long only lasting 2 seasons and Danny Phantom lasting 3 Jake Long in particular did seemingly badly since they changed the art style to be drastically simplified in the second season and from what I heard Danny Phantom was supposed to have 4 seasons but was wrapped up in 3 cause the writing was on the wall for cancelation.
I think the reason fandoms become a big thing is that fanfiction gives young writers an easy way to write a story with characters that are already fleshed out. It's hard to come up with your own original characters that aren't just direct copies of you with different moods or just walking tropes you see everywhere. Having characters that already have an interesting design, backstory, and personality allows the person to focus more on world building and plot development. I don't fault anyone for making fan fiction, in fact I encourage it. Any excuse to delve into the world of writing is a wonderful thing, and I hope that in the future, when fans grow up and out of their fandom, they can see that they have the power and the tools to make their own story. Sure, it'll take way longer to flesh out everything, but it's so much fun to have a full story that's yours.
besides the worldbuilding and narrative side of things, i’d say that writing fanfiction can also be a great exercise in learning how to write different types of characters consistently! writing characters that already have an established personality & background can be a bit harder than people think, as you can’t just change them on a whim or make things up on the fly because you’re not starting from scratch. it’s kind of like the difference between having an assignment prompt vs none; on one hand it can be hard to come up with something on your own, but you’ll have the freedom to do literally anything. on the other hand, a prompt gives you a more immediate springboard for a story, but then you’re also given a certain limit to keep things in line with the specific prompt/concept.
I know you had good intentions with this comment but the way you imply fanfiction is a "phase" for young writers really dismiss that fanfiction is a valid form of writing itself, not a learning phase, not something you are supposed to use as training wheels until you "grow out of fandom". I don't write fanfiction to learn how to write, I do it because it brings me joy and I want to share it with other fans. I doubt writing originals will ever bring the same feeling.
11:26 I think there's another group and it's the 4 dads (Santa, Stoic, King Fergus and King Frederick) hanging together. Honestly seeing chad dads hang out together doesn't sound bad at all
I can see Stoic, Fergus and Santa hanging out, but Frederick looks so out of place there, probably because they look like badass dads he is more an adult Disney Prince
I’m surprised she didn’t touch upon “Golden Blonde and Jet Black”...for those of you who don’t know, it was an impressively edited and really cute love story between Rapunzel and Mavis. I stumbled across it when I was younger and it was the first time I’d ever watched a lesbian pairing lmao.
Back in the day, I had a classmate and she was so into this fandom that she had a lot of notebooks with thousands of fanfiction about this, and she used to make me read them and give her my feedback about her stories, I obviously never made fun of her I was very respectful with her unusual writing 😂. Hope she's doing better now.
I cackled at "Hope she is doing better now". 😂😂 As an avid fanfic reader for well over a decade I definitely understand how especially younger readers and writers can be a bit unhinged, not in a bad way but still very much weird.
Omg this just reminded me that I used to inflict the same torture on my friends, just with my own original stories. Idk if that makes it better or worse lol.
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“Dante’s Divine Comedy was a self-insert fanfic” haha yeah
Oh heck, didn't expect THE Wendigoon to be here :00
Yeah haha it's not like someone made an hour long video about it!!
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you're the first person I thought of when I heard it. I love your videos.
That's cool, I was wondering how I got recommended your videos. Good stuff!
FINALLY someone talks about them. This fandom was a mess but I love it
THIS. i was obsessed for some odd reason
Damn I feel like like I’m missing out, I’ve never heard of this fandom.
@@ratstanduser its still going its ridiculous. what was realy fun to see go down was the jack/rapunzel and jack/elsa shipping war.god tumblr wars are fun
@@jolenekeimpema6141 oh my god yeah I remember that, what a time
I hate it so much😂 cause I really love the movies individually but I despise those crossover. But tbh people shipping Elsa with Jack are the worst oMg THey hAve iCe pOweRs tHey NEED tO bE a cOupLe... Uh-huh and you don't see the lesbian energy Elsa vibrates or are you just blind?
FINALLY someone can explain those weird edited gifsets that were always on my dash in 2014
I still see em sometimes
that and all those:
"merida can be seen entering the castle with elsa and anna at *insert time stamp from that one scene in frozen*", on top of really blurry gif of a little blob of red moving around in a crowd of.... mostly just hair lmao
not sure i had tumblr yet but i remember those posts leaking over into facebook. i never understood what the obsession was, especially since i was relatively new to the internet to start with. for like a year i just assumed there was actually a movie coming out that combined the 2 series and everyone was looking for easter eggs
I had never even heard of this fandom EVEN ONCE and I was on tumblr constantly during this time. I saw your comment and it all came back to me like a smack in the face
@@ぐんでrぃて shut up
It's funny, when this fandom was big, I was phasing out of fandom obsessions and my younger cousin was phasing into this one, so one day I found her writing a JackxElsa fic on her phone and told her "I used to do that in my old fandoms too!" So she asked me to read her fic and proofread it for her, it was really sweet ❤
Wait no bc this is wholesome in every way. You opting not to judge or call your cousin cringe or anything like that and allowing her to have that phase is absolutely amazing! Imo having that phase is just fun, and you get to enjoy yourself!
So sweet
This made my body scrunch up with happiness, I could never! ❤️
That’s so sweet😭
A moment of silence for all of those fools who got a mustache tattooed on the side of their finger because of the trend.
oh god
@@dixiewhite2698 Can you imagine anything more embarrassing than having to go to your parents and ask for money to get a tattoo lasered off because literally no one will take you seriously with a handlebar mustache on your finger?
Why would you do that 💀
@Cekia Selmi ♋️ I don't think you're supposed to message all the random bot messages you can say in one comment.
Worst part is, when you tatoo your finger or hand, the tatoo will inevitably "wear off" with time. Won't disappear, but will look blurry and bad.
I felt so much pain watching this. This transported me straight back to my rise of the brave tangled dragons phase. I remember being so heartbroken and upset when people shoved aside Jackunzel for Jelsa. I was so atrociously anti-Jelsa. I was such a salty child. Was anyone else on the Instagram role play side of this fandom?
Yoooo, i disliked Jelsa as well (mainly because of how popular it was that almost everything was centered around them and how there were toxic shippers) but I never really trashed the ship or the shippers (respectfully hate maybe?)
I shipped Jarida (there is so little content for this ship, its so sad) and Mericcup (with Jackunzel)
I shipped hiccup and Jack and hicerda instead
LMAO SAME BUT MY MINE SHIP WAS HICCELSA BECAUSE I HAD A CRUSH ON HICCUP AND I WAS OBSESSED WITH ELSA LMAO-
I also hated Jelsa so much, just because I didn't like Elsa as a character, didn't find her appealing or fun, I still think to this day that she is a quite flat character, Anna has much more personality on Frozen 1 and I didn't get the popularity of Elsa. Also, shipping just because they shared the same powers... Boring. Jack was such a fun character, in my head he needed something more fun, or crazy than Elsa. I loved Jarida, and Hijack, and also Jackunzel, they made more sense to me idk.
I never knew about all this big fandom until today. I just remembered seeing fanarts of Jelsa and ignoring it, cuz I wasn't really a big shipper in those days, until I saw Hiccup and Jack Frost content. I wasn't a fan of it, but I kinda liked it.
In fact, gay shipps in general were the first thing for me to be a little close to what now we know as "representation". And thanks to my happiness of seeing queer characters existing I became a shipper.
The fact that dark Rapunzel now canonically exists in that universe and pretty much looks exactly how the fandom headcanoned her with the pitch black eyes and black hair will never not be funny to me.
LOL THE SHOW HAS THAT RAPUNZEL-- THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE
Not Calling Jack Frost something like "Black Ice" for the Dark AU is a sin of its own
i hate to be the one who has this knowledge, but “black ice” in relation to jack frost was already in use as the ship name for jack & pitch
@@whimsical_bitches_club oh
@@whimsical_bitches_club one question....why?
the president julius i wish i had an answer for you lmao
@@thepresidentjulius3820 I wanna say I know why , but I got nothing. I was a black ice
Shipper . I guess I was a super huge angsty teen .
It’s kinda funny knowing that “Rise of the Brave Tangled Frozen Dragons” essentially became the go-to fandom place to create/view animated crossovers. As someone who was completely absorbed into this fandom during my middle school/high school days, it’s kinda neat to see this fandom being discusses without completely disregarding it just a “sign of the times”. I’m pretty sure this fandom is what helped me get into writing and other creative endeavors, so I have to give it thanks for that.
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Oh god, this makes me instantly remember how I made an “anti-Jesla hate” FaceBook page at 12 years old because the ship got so popular it was popular to hate it lmaoo. What a time the internet was.
Bruh… 😂
DUDE I REMEMBER THIS WTF
@@sonofaspyder3000 the Jelsa hate was strong in 2013 lmao 😭😩
As someone who was in the editing scene around that time, one of the big reason why those crossovers were so popular was thanks to the green screen packs you could find on youtube. Editors shared green screen of those characters and since editing was becoming more and more popular, greenscreens were an easy way for kids to make edits they were proud of.
I was totally astounded the first time I saw one of the edits. I think it was this really edgy one with ‘Control’ by Halsey and the creator actually made doubles of the characters because this AU contained some sort of “alter ego” for each character- where they basically had the opposite colour palette and a bunch of tattoos. It was so well made in the eyes of preteen me that I genuinely thought it was an actual dreamworks production, I bet the video is still up too.
17:20 That was honestly one of the biggest problems when trying to find anything Hiccup/Jack related online. If you looked up Hijack, you'd get some action movie and a bunch of crime stuff. Frostcup has always been the superior name, but only like 1/4 of the Fandom used it! 😔
Wouldn't it be way easier to go: Hiccup/Jack Frost or Hiccup x Jack Frost? Is this just being cute about it.
@@greekifreekifan870 ship names are just things people use so they don't say a whole mouthful
@@draculaura_keyblade Also Hijack is pretty clever. I love it when ship names are little word plays
i kind of like hijack just because it's funny lmao
Before any of these movies came out I remember being a 13 year old on deviantart where my absolute OTP was a crossover. Willet, which was Wilbur Robinson from Meet The Robinsons, and Violet Parr from The Incredibles.
The fandom never blew up so I basically gobbled up all the fanfiction and art I could get my hands on. Some similarly very impressive edits were also created.
I remember my favourite fic from the time was about Violet being cryogenically frozen during a solo fight with a villain. Decades later she's discovered and revived and has to resume her highschool life (in class with Wilbur Robinson) whilst dealing with the angst of her parents being old retirees and her brothers being middle aged with families.
The devil works hard but crossover fanfic writers work harder.
There is. So much to unpack here
none of these words are in the bible
@@mitsurokiss I'm jewish anyways L'CHAIM SINNERS
ooooh link? i’m having fanfiction withdrawals lmao
something i will say about crossovers, as a neurodivergent person, is that crossovers appeal heavily to neurodivergent people because sometimes? the mere thought of two or more of your hyperfixations/special interests being in just the same general area just gives you an unfathomable amount of serotonin, hence why a bit more weirder things like pooh's adventures are such a thing. plus, i remember being in middle school and being a little too obsessed with (cough) hetastuck...
IKR
When I was younger, I'd imagine a certain crossover between kids novels (diary of a wimpy kid, big Nate, captain underpants jermino Stilton get the point already) and one particular thing I can say is for the "who is the best protagonist of all these books" it was pretty obvious Greg heffley was the lowest tier
Oh my god I think my adhd made so many crossovers bc half the time I was in super big and tiny fandoms
why did you make me learn about that
HETASTUCK?? as in, hetalia and homestuck??? the things you must have seen....
As someone that was in the fandom, I can actually tell you why it was called The Big Four. It came from a line in Rise of the Guardians where Pitch says "The Big Four" in reference to Sandman, North, Bunnymund and Toothiana. So it just kind of went from there.
But like legit, I never thought I was going to ever see a youtuber talk about this. I was and still am a huge Jerida/Jarida shipper. My wife and I used to make edits of them. 😂 so legit you've just made my day. Thank you. 😁
Yess, I love them too! They're both so mischievous and playful, I can't imagine anything else!
Jarida was absolutely my favorite ship back then and I was so sad that it was so unpopular compared to others Jack's ships 😅
I'm also a huge Jarida shipper, and it's so sad that they only had a limited number of content (like fanart/fanfic)
I even traded Jarida fanfics with my Jelsa shipper friend
FireXIce Supremacy
I still love Jarida so much!! Was the best ship of the crossover so far, my first enemys to lovers fire and ice, I just LOVE them
All I remember about Brave is that we watched it on Christmas Day and found out my hamster was dead about halfway through when we went to give him his Christmas presents.
4/10 had a lot of aesthetic forests
I'd argue Astrid and the twins fit into conventionally attractive, at least as far as Hiccup does. Astrid was just redundant because there's already Merida and the twins had little development and not much beyond comic relief bg characters. They also don't have iconic colours or elements they could easily embody. Is like Power Rangers or magical girls, need a theme colour and they were mostly blonde with shades of brown.
omfg i clearly remember Astrid haters...... I was into ROTBTD when i was younger but I was really mad people were pretending Astrid didnt exist
I dont think the twins are convenctionally atractive at least in the first movie
This was actually my first fandom, and what introduced me to shipping and fandom culture in general.
for me,it inspired to be a movie spoofer myself
Ahhh, I remember seeing those things coming out in the 2010s. I remember seeing many thumbnails and edits of the Jack Frost and Elsa ship. You did an excellent job at explaining the history of how the big 4 fandom became very popular. Keep up the great work!
My grudge with these kinds of big crossover groups is that when you're trying to find fic for the smaller involved fandoms, half the tag will be those crossovers. And while two fandom crossovers are generally fine content, once you get three or more they're either constantly competing for screentime to explain everything, and/or the characters are so divorced from their original cast and context that they're utterly devoid of content as far as their home fandom goes. Which on its own is fine, whatever people find fun. It's just really annoying to have to sift through an already very tiny fic pool to find stories that are actually about your fandom.
I remember trying to find some casual HTTYD fics with Hiccup and his friends/family just hanging out and having fun, and having to sift through mountains of Big Four fics. Thank the lord for the AO3 exclude fandom function.
@@beanboy5963 Worship the ability to exclude tags! I’ve abused it so much that with one tag I keep open I managed to reach the character limit and got an error so now I have to remove tags if I want to add more
Don't forget when people incessantly write fanfiction about a specific fanwork based on another piece of media. I love HLVRAI and all but God DAMN, whenever I try to find any half life fanfics on ao3 I always find ONLY HLVRAI works.
@@beanboy5963 The exclude fandoms option is a godsend. Although I'm the kind of foolish optimist who thinks maybe there's a crossover with only the one fandom somewhere in there that I'd miss out on if I excluded it, so I end up not excluding anything and making life unnecessarily a lot harder for myself.
Exclude fandom tags
The editing at 13:20 is so impressive I'm speechless
Especially the shot of hiccup and jack spinning and the one where rapunzel is holding onto hiccup while flying😮😮😮😮
As for the "attractive teen with a bunch of not-so-attractive side characters movie" you did the Rise of the Guardians crew dirty, there's way too many people out there who would love to get freaky with North or the Easter Bunny, even the Tooth Fairy is remembered as a childhood crush for many.
Don't forget about Sandman
I've seen Bunnymund fanfiction, people do find him hot which I'll never quite understand. But I am team North deserved better, North deserves a Tumblr Sexy Man title, dammit.
Hugh Jackman is cheating when finding people attractive
Thank you. North is foine.
Agreed! Also I forget her name but the love interest in HTTYD is well loved and very pretty as well. I saw a good comment mentioning that it may have been more that they where all the most developed and easily relatable characters in their movies. Thier all teens with similar themes and the fact that thier all "pretty" is just how film is. It's also been pointed out that Merida is NoT attractive in the same way that the others are. She's drawn to be you g and childlike, it's part of her story. Yet she doesn't feel like second rate in the fandom. Idk I'm just loving this comment section and have seen so many people pitching in as to why exactly we all loved these characters so much
like 6 years ago i read a hiccelsa fanfic on ao3 and it was literally one of the best things i had ever read. i cant find it and i assume it was deleted out of shame but that person should NEVER EVER feel ashamed of that masterwork. it was genuinely fantastic writing and i mourn it every day
I hate when that happens. I've learned that, if I find a fic I like even a LITTLE, I save it immediately: copy/paste to a document, download it, whatever. I have at least two fics that I know for a fact have since been deleted or lost due to a site overhaul. So happy that I can still revisit them despite that. 😊
Every fanfic person has that one fic that blew them away and often times they don't have the forethought save it just for enjoyments sake in case what you just said happens.
There's this one teen wolf fanfic that's basically a novel that I keep on my phone and reread time to time (SO good)
Hiccelsa fics just hit different. 🥺
when it comes to disney crossovers, you have only just barely scratched the surface. the most fascinating crossover fandom i've seen is the youtube fanfic video demographic where they do these video edits that range from shitty to downright impressive. they spend hundreds of hours of their lives splicing and masking footage from various movies together, essentially creating the most high effort fanfics I have ever seen, many of which do not have any dialogue, so it's actually pretty fascinating how they approach storytelling sometimes. me and a friend spent hours watching them on youtube once, it was really entertaining. boy do they get dark and sexual sometimes, though.
there is one that's like 10 minutes long that is just a giant collaboration between many creators where characters from dozens of films are transforming into other animal characters like they're all in some kind of animal shifter shared universe. that one looks like it'd be a hell of a rabbit hole to fall into if you ever decided to dig deeper into that AU's lore.
This just reminded me of that TH-camr called the nameless doll. Those edits were hella impressive
Oh god I think my nrother is a part of this fandom, mostly as a watcher
It would be so cool to see Izzzy make a video about the cursed invader zim fandom. It's one of the most toxic, annoying, and gross fandoms I've ever been in (like not quite undertale level, but def top 5) but it's got its fair share of odd ships and crossovers and MOUNTAINS of fics. I've heard Izzzy mention it several times, but a video about the fandom would be so, so interesting tbh XD
We need this! Invader Zim was the life of the scene kids back on the 00s
dont forget the pedo ships too. Zim is a grown ass man and is often shipped with Dib, and elementary schooler
@@piss7610 isnt zima an alien and dont they despise each other wouldt that ruin there whole dynamic
I would love to see her talk about the Creepypasta fandom, now that one was terrible
@@treko3000 a lot of people shipped them as an "enemies to lovers" sort of thing
You have no idea how long I've been waiting for a video about this cursed part of my childhood. I thought this is just a memory I've made up as a kid
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------💜 NUDE.SNAPGIRLS.TODAY/PIIT?WET DONUT CHURROS 💜
THREE IN ONE
L...❤❤❤...
TH-cam: THIS IS FINE.
THREE IN ONE
SOMEONE: SAYS ''HECK''.
TH-cam: BE GONE
Life's story is a short journey so have fun before sleeping forever
#Чо #эт #делает #на #2 #месте #в #тренде
#однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков .#垃圾.
Megan: ''Hotter''
Hopi: ''Sweeter''
Joonie: ''Cooler''
Yoongi: ''Butter''
Жизнь, как красивая мелодия, только песни перепутались.
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter" .
ライブ配信の再編ありがとうです！この日のライブ配信は、かならりやばかったですね！１万人を超える人が見ていたもんね（笑）やっぱり人参最高！まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした！今後は気を付けないとね. .
!💖🖤❤️#今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです！#この日のライブ配信は、#かならりやばかったですね！#１万人を超える人が見ていたもん（#笑）#やっぱり人参最高！#まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした #今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです！#この日のライブ配信は、#かならりやばかったですね！ #１万人を超える人が見ていたもん（#笑）#やっぱり人参最高！ #まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした #垃圾 今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです！この日のライブ配信は、かならりやばかったですね！１万人を超える人が見ていたもん（笑）やっぱり人参最高！まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした,. 💖🖤在整個人類歷史上，強者，富人和具有狡猾特質的人捕食部落，氏族，城鎮，城市和鄉村中的弱者，無`'守和貧窮成員。然而，人類的生存意願迫使那sfdsd些被拒絕，被剝奪或摧毀的基本需求的人們找到了一種生活方式，並繼續將其DNA融入不斷發展的人類社會。. 說到食物，不要以為那些被拒絕的人只吃垃圾。相反，他們學會了在被忽視的肉類和蔬菜中尋找營養。他們學會了清潔，切塊，調味和慢燉慢燉的野菜和肉類，在食品``
I do wanna acknowledge Hiccup does feel Slightly different from the generic protagonist because he is disabled - as someone with a chronic health issue that caused my leg to be really fucked up, him being an amputee with what is essentially a service animal was significantly more impactful to me than the rest of the cast :)
How to train your dragon was such a big part of my life growing up lol. I think i might have owned all the hardcovers growing up, (?? I really thought i only had like half but on further inspection i recognize all of them) and the first and second movie respectively were so important to me as a kid in the 2010s, i have no idea why. Im pretty sure we even played the main theme of the first movie in my middle school concert band class, 50/50 on whether it was me who suggested it to my teacher lmao. I think Dragons was my first big special interest in media, (warriors was next) my autistic self couldnt get enough of it
We should have a video about the 2020s next, when everyone said they were autistic. x'D
I never knew this fandom existed, but I cannot express what I feel towards it. Its existence makes so much sense to me and the edits make me feel weirdly nostalgic... I love this ❤
I'm so glad somebody is acknowledging this weird time in the 2010's
My older sister used to be OBSESSED with the big four (so much so I thought it was an actual movie but cut me some slack I was like 5 or 6) recently she told me that back in the day she pretty positive she shipped Jack and Repunzel more than Repunzel and Eugene but by the looks of it, it seems like everyone else on the Internet felt the same way
Oh the memories, this fandom got me into reading fics and it all went down from there
wasn’t expecting for the simple phrase “AU” to bring back so many flashbacks of pure pre-teen cringe
I never got into any of these fandoms that heavily but one of my best friends did and, oh man, the nostalgia of staying up at sleepovers just listening to them ramble about The Big Four and their favourite ships and which character was better, etc etc
Gotta appreciate Izzzyzzz plushie finally join with the Garfield-shelf-verse
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------💜 NUDE.SNAPGIRLS.TODAY/PIIT?WET DONUT CHURROS 💜
THREE IN ONE
L...❤❤❤...
TH-cam: THIS IS FINE.
THREE IN ONE
SOMEONE: SAYS ''HECK''.
TH-cam: BE GONE
Life's story is a short journey so have fun before sleeping forever
#Чо #эт #делает #на #2 #месте #в #тренде
#однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков .#垃圾.
Megan: ''Hotter''
Hopi: ''Sweeter''
Joonie: ''Cooler''
Yoongi: ''Butter''
Жизнь, как красивая мелодия, только песни перепутались.
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter" .
ライブ配信の再編ありがとうです！この日のライブ配信は、かならりやばかったですね！１万人を超える人が見ていたもんね（笑）やっぱり人参最高！まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした！今後は気を付けないとね. .
!💖🖤❤️#今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです！#この日のライブ配信は、#かならりやばかったですね！#１万人を超える人が見ていたもん（#笑）#やっぱり人参最高！#まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした #今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです！#この日のライブ配信は、#かならりやばかったですね！ #１万人を超える人が見ていたもん（#笑）#やっぱり人参最高！ #まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした #垃圾 今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです！この日のライブ配信は、かならりやばかったですね！１万人を超える人が見ていたもん（笑）やっぱり人参最高！まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした,. 💖🖤在整個人類歷史上，強者，富人和具有狡猾特質的人捕食部落，氏族，城鎮，城市和鄉村中的弱者，無`'守和貧窮成員。然而，人類的生存意願迫使那sfdsd些被拒絕，被剝奪或摧毀的基本需求的人們找到了一種生活方式，並繼續將其DNA融入不斷發展的人類社會。. 說到食物，不要以為那些被拒絕的人只吃垃圾。相反，他們學會了在被忽視的肉類和蔬菜中尋找營養。他們學會了清潔，切塊，調味和慢燉慢燉的野菜和肉類，在食品``
Oh my god izzyzzz is a garfield
I remember I was obsessed with Jerida and always used to fight with jackunzel shippers because I found a fan fic that perfectly aligned their universes and I was adamant about it being the superior ship. Then Jelsa came along and united us shippers. Ahhh, memories.
Finally, a fellow Jerida truther 😭
Man... This was literally my first real introduction to the internet when I was 11 and my first fandom EVER, and i remember learning so much about editing thanks to the people I met, knowledge that to this day is still useful to me.
I have very nice memories of this fandom and the people in it , I in fact was one of the most popular Brave accounts at the time being only 13, and it was absolutely amazing days that i had since these were the days were the internet began raising me.
thank you so much for that comment at the end that cringe culture is dead and we should continue pursuing our dreams. as someone who was sorta kinda part of this fandom when i was a teen, watching this video made me cringe at myself. but having someone like you explain the fandom and then just as quickly turn around and say that it was 100% fine to like it makes me feel really nice
I was in this fandom when i was like 11, and lemme tell ya it gets worse. There used to be Jelsa fan accounts on instagram where they would make stories using a 4 panel comic style. They would edit pictires from the movies to make it look like they were in the same place and story. Then they often added other characters. I remember it being a big thing of jelsa vs jack and rupunzel? I think? Anyway there were tons of different stories and all of them were nuts. I even remember reading one where elsa had a kid (it was just baby anna with edited white hair) but she had fuckin cancer with the little edited in tubes and everything. My 11 year old self was obsessed with these stories i thought they were some agnsty good shit 😂
I also don't think it's any surprise that all of this coincided with CGI movies finally creating human characters that looked attractive to a wide audience. As a huge Disney fan during 2010 who was mourning the gradual decline of hand-drawn animation, How to Train Your Dragon and Tangled really felt like the first movies to really nail CGI human character designs and movement. Before those, the computer-animated films with the most prominent older fandoms tended to be Pixar movies that centered around animated objects or animals. There were exceptions (i.e. Shrek or The Incredibles), but they either crossed into the uncanny valley or were extremely stylized. I genuinely do think that both Disney and Dreamworks finally nailing how to animate CG humans in a similar way to traditional hand-drawn character animation was a huge contributing factor, and those movies telling stories about relatable teenagers only helped. I'm sure that if early-2010s Tumblr culture existed in the early-90s something similar would probably rise from The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, and Aladdin all releasing so close together and revitalizing interest in both Disney and animation as a whole among teens and adults.
Not gonna only obsess over the looks but I’m literally 20 seconds into the video and dear god Izzy, this is the most jaw dropping look I’ve seen from you. Not the most labor intensive or ✨aesthetic✨ but even my ace little heart was like 😳😍
I'd love to see an introspective on the creepypasta surge. Idk why, I just think it'd be great
I remember reading a superhero AU with the big four and big hero 6 the first month I got my phone. This low key unlocked that memory.
This video brought back a lot of long-forgotten cringe. I remember having arguments with my friend in the high school library because she shipped Jelsa when I shipped Jackunzel when clearly Elsa was their daughter.
Some of the edits in this video I remember saving onto my computer. Lots of nostalgia.
But, despite how cringe it was, I still look upon these memories fondly. Weird to be a part of this brief and extremely weird internet phenomenon.
Elsa as a Jackunzel lovechild sounds like a cool concept, it makes sense with Elsa having some resemblance to Rapunzel, with the hair color and eye shape
"when clearly Elsa was their daughter" sent me LMAOOOO
You just dug up some hidden memories I was a jackunzel person and I had an argument about that too 😭
When I was young I always remembered people made Disney edits of characters interacting with each other, but when I first watched it I thought it was real.
i can’t even imagine what happened to this fandom when Luca and Encanto dropped
Out of all sponors, never would I have thought the app I use for fan edits being CapCut Being sponored
Having lived through this AU in my cringey mid-teens, watching this essay is causing me physical pain. And I love it.
I literally have vivid memories of a childhood friend excitedly showing me Jack frost x elsa stuff and I hadn’t seen either frozen or guardians at the time and was confused when I watched frozen and slowly realized they weren’t from the same thing…
I had no idea this fandom existed from that day up to this day holy damn
L O L The only exposure I ever had to this fandom was finding out that people were shipping Elsa and Jack and being simultaneously confounded but seeing why it would be a thing people would latch onto. Yeah, a lot of it looks reaally cringey from an outside perspective, but I'm almost 40. At this point, I've just learned to let the kids do their goofy shit and not pay them any mind unless someone is actively getting hurt. Kids are gonna be kids, and they need to be allowed to stretch their creative muscles, even if as adults it just looks strange. Let's face it; we all did it when we were that age, too. There is no one alive whose past isn't also super cringey to someone else. XD
I'm like 24 years younger than you and I only know about Jack and Elsa ship from that time. Thanks for being understanding tho, lots of adults just shit on us without trying to comprehend our weird teen phases. 🧍🏻♂️ the formative years are always the most crazy and creative tbh
@@Duhgel Luckily, most of the Millennials I know are old enough to have reached the point of "live and let live." lol From what I've seen, the Millennials and the Gen Z'ers have the same fatalistic nihilism, only where we made ourselves feel apathetic towards life, you guys took it and made it a "The World Is Ending, Let's Party As The World Burns!" sort of atmosphere, and it amuses me. It's just the older Gen X'ers and the Boomers that are having trouble getting over their weird hangups.
It's kind of refreshing, honestly. I wish I still had all that energy and optimism despite the entire world burning down around us. Keep the creativity and optimism, don't let anyone tell you your hobbies are cringey because others think they are, that's the way I've finally let myself feel after all this time. Everyone needs an outlet that lets them feel happy and safe, and if you need to write terrible self-insert fanfic crossovers with Harry Potter and The Wizard of Oz, then who is it hurting to let you do it? Truth be told, you don't ever stop doing it, you just go through a phase where you're too embarrassed to let it out of your head and onto paper where it can be read by others. Even us oldies have our mental self-inserts. 😆
Secret of the Incredible Frozen Dragons is so hilarious. Frozone is literally just a full grown adult MAN amongst these teens
i remember very clearly how i was fascinated by the fanart that it spawned. no joke there were some extremely talented artists working on very detailed artwork with these four characters, and i remember that a lot more than these photorrealistic edits (maybe it was because of who i followed, idk). similarly, i feel that when frozen dropped its hype kinda swallowed and killed robtd; i personally dont remember much in the way of crossover between the big four and frozen, mostly because frozen was a whole beast of its own
I remember being 7 in 2013 and 8 in 2014 and loving frozen and all things Elsa. I remember seeing a few jelsa videos and a few jack frost x rapunzel videos. In 2015, I remember watching a jelsa sims 3 lets play series by the English Simmer. Even now I occasionally go back to re watch it for nostalgia. also speaking of the sims 3 nostalgia, I also used to watch the princess games. I forgot who exactly made it but i remember their username had fox and coffee in it, I know they had multiple usernames throughout time on yotuube though. Those videos were essentially where the disney princesses (and queen) would go through a hunger games type series and the winner would be the remaining survivor. I was so happy Elsa survived lol. However, those videos have since been privated and all that remains is the sims 4 remake of them, however those videos have the comments turned off. It's sad because one day I was going to re watch them for nostalgia purposes.
I seriously thought this was a fever dream i had at the ripe old age of 13 years old. You are bringing out so many cursed, repressed memories.
I KNOW RIGHT
omg i’m so proud of izzy their channel is now big enough to have bots congrats bestie
@@sinclair_likes_purple as a kiwi I’m like “that’s our girl!!!!”
@@BettiePagan yesss!!
colective fever dream
"how to train your dragon was basically a horse girl movie"
i can't even begin to explain how much this sentence blew my mind
right??
Just like how Bumblebee was one
Like, just turn the dragons into horses, and there you go lol
@@TupocalypseShakur oh my god
@@TupocalypseShakur oh my GOD
It’s crazy that the fandom outlived Brave. The movie doesn’t matter anymore. This is Brave’s legacy
That's because Brave as a movie wasn't all that good or had a lot of longevity due to how troubled its production was
That's because Brave was honestly bad lol. At least Tangled was a good movie.
Brave made me cry of frustration because of all the wasted potential. I felt my soul being absolutely crushed when they introduced the bear plot. I was dealing with mommy issues and I felt seen and heard because the narrative seemed like, for once, it was on the daughter’s side. I was hoping to watch with my mother so she could finally understand what I’ve failed to tell her (I was in foster care as well, so I wanted a way to express to her the hurt and pain she caused me growing up before I was sent away). But no. They had to Introduce a whole new plot that had shit to do with anything. Yes, I’m still upset. No movie has ever came close to the first part of Brave. I completely forgot about the bear plot until like last year when someone did a video essay on Brave. It’s like my brain blocked it out as a trauma response 😂😂
@@Trollestiatumblur Agreed. Plus, it's deeply ironic how the protagonist of Disney's "empowered", "feminist" action movie saves the day by learning how to sew. Like...why couldn't she just fight Mordu and break the curse or something?
In my opinion, Raya and the Last Dragon is everything Brave should have been.
@@marvelousTUD I heard Raya and The Last Dragon was a good movie, I feel like the last person to have seen it. It gets compared to ATLA a lot (in good and bad ways) I will definitely watch that movie next
Jack Frost was EVERYWHERE back then. I was shocked when I found out it flopped. It felt like an online phenomenon like Frozen.
While I’m not a fan of Teletubbies, the show was HUGE at the end of the past millennium.
Rise of the Guardians was one of one of those movies that “flopped“ in theaters, but was a huge success with audiences and wins the hearts of everyone I’ve ever seen who has watched it for the first time.
There are still a lot of Jack frost cosplayers
I remember being 8 and seeing a bunch of videos of jelsa and fire Elsa. At the time I didn't know what tumblr was, or shipping, or fanfics, or anything really. But I really liked jelsa with all my heart.
@@milo_thatch_incarnate This.
I swear Izzy is the person who literally speaks out what I saw in the internet and wondered why it exists. She's doing our confuzzled thoughts a favor.
It's like a weird form of group therapy but for very niche and specific internet phenomena
"Yes, Hiccunzel was the actual ship name."
An absolute disgrace of a missed opportunity not to go with Rap-Up.
Ha 😊
21:21 how could you not mention the popular 2010s animated TV show trifecta Gravity Falls, Steven Universe and Over the Garden Wall, which come together to form the most glorious multifandom name I've ever heard:
Steven Falls Over
@@hiroshotreplica do you mean the sans theory 😭
@@sweetbubblegum55 me when steven after not surviving
this surprisingly beats bee shrek test in the house
This joke has the best punchline I've ever seen.
Thank you for this knowledge. 💀👍
the most insane thing to me about shipping rapunzel with every single attractive contemporary animated character is that she and eugene have easily the sweetest and healthiest romantic relationship in any animated franchise?? for being such a genuinely supportive and selfless love interest eugene gets cast aside and forgotten so much 😭
Noooo but speaking as someone who shipped Rapunzel with like basically anybody I could think of while simultaneously being a huge New Dream shipper I always didn't put Eugene in my aus or even killed him off dramatically because I was like "If Eugene is around there's no way Rapunzel would fall for someone else" 😭
And also Astrid with hiccup these mfs shipped him with anyone but his actual girlfriend 💀
Yes they don't pair them up with their actual partners it's delusional
HONESTLY (I say, shipping her w Cass from the TTS)
(Voiced by Zachary Levi, a super sweet dude (at least when I watched him in chuck fml I hope he hasn’t done anything problematic fmll))
"how to train your dragon is basically a horse girl movie" hit me like a ton of bricks
shit, I just realized how true that is
still an amazing movie series, though. i will stand by it until the day i die
i've never been so offended by something i 100% agree with
that means i was a dragon girl….
i went from horses to dragons and im realizing this movie had a lot to do with it lmao
Oh I hated how to Train your Dragon as a little kid 😂
"HTTYD was basically a horse girl movie"
I hate that you're right
Such a brave and controversial statement.
I loved both dragons and horses growing up, maybe that explains why I love the HTTYD movies so much
Oh wow I had buried that jack frost onceler gif DEEP in the back of my mind
Also, this reminded me of the Bad End Friends, it was another super popular tumblr crossover fandom with the eViL 🤪😈 versions of characters like dipper finn and wirt. I think it'd be really cool to see an Izzzyzzz video on that :]
I haven't thought about the bad end friends in forever! I used to watch amvs for that and the big four constantly
God I used to be OBSESSED with bef
Also remember mystery kids
I liked coming across "mystery kids" stuff, which was just a collaboration or Coraline, Over the Garden Wall, Gravity Falls, and I think in more recent years Hilda?
you had to hit me with Bad End Friends :(
@@emmy_platinum Mystery kids was always one I LOVED as I as into the spookier type of shows, but it was always hard for me to find proper content for it, but I am now remembering an entire comic someone was making about it and I am now about to hunt that down at 5:30 in the morning
This fandom has started to corrupt me because I genuinely started getting mad that hiccup was headcannoned as a hufflepuff and Rapunzel a ravenclaw
Rapunnzel being a ravenclaw is because she'd gets written as luna lovegood, plus her creativity rather than smarts. her drive to have knowledge of the lanterns and where they come from is the driving force of her movie. she also works well in hufflepuff as she is extremely loyal and kind, hiccup.. hiccup could be all four houses, he is the one guy you could debate for hours on each. yes, he is the smartest
but so is Hermione and she's Gryffindor.
@@editaudioaestheticI agree honestly when it comes to hiccup I’m sure it would be something akin to Harry Potter where he kinda adds his input on which one he prefers. However I do think that Ravenclaw fits him best. I mean just look at the things he’s made, 2 flying suits, multiple fire blades, a new leg, a huge map, a new tail wing for toothless, and learned how to fight/train dragons just by watching toothless. If he doesn’t belong to raven claw the most I don’t know what to tell ya.
@@editaudioaesthetic Rapunzel also seems to enjoy books, though that might be because she only had access to THREE her whole life, and seeing and looking at others was probably exciting. But still. Yeah hiccup being hufflepuff makes no sense, and honestly having multiple characters in one house makes sense for them being friends, right??
Man this brings back memories! Never was in the fandom itself but it was a constant presence - I saw it everywhere. Hell, one of my longtime friends is still in the fandom today. I always like that you touch on both sides of fandoms in your vidoes. Yes, it can be intense at times with unnecessary drama, but at the end of the day, the core of a fandom is, or at least should be, just people having fun and that's really what ROTBTG is. It's really impressive that this fandom is still alive and strong today, great vid as usual! :)
Omg yes I could not have said it better! All cringe and drama aside, people were and still are happy creating stories and art for this fandom which is the most important thing - having fun
@@clarimm6675 Well said!
@@clarimm6675 yessss!!! Honestly good for them
I think this and Superwholock are definitive proof that sometimes fandoms are more about the aesthetics of a work than the piece of media itself.
oh and don't forget the onceler
@@janetestherina7169 let's forget the onceler.
@@irregularstuff5290 NEVER FORGET THE ONCELER
@@janetestherina7169 I think it's for the best if we forget the Onceler.
@@durnsidh6483 I would love to forget about the Onceler...
i can't believe you didn't address marvis x rapunzel.... truly an iconic niche of that fandom and frankly an oversight to have missed.
Jet black x golden blonde was literally my gay awakening ifyky
Yes, I am a “lesbo”.....
@@vijonesPLSSSS I thought something was wrong with me rewatching that edit like 8 times
I think I saw this one video of that. In that video Rapunzel was Sandman's daughter and Mavis was Pitches daughter.
her name is MAVIS
Oh my lords, the drawing of Hiccup at 13:52 IS MINE. Of ALL places to see a blast of the past is seeing your own art YEARS later online (I am SO curious, where did that one drawing end up without my old account name? I still have the psd of it....). A NOTE on that, I wasn't too keen on Hiccup being Earth at the time as I wanted him to be the wind but for shenanigans and headcanons and such between people I had to go with earth. I NEVER leave comments anywhere, this was enough to pull that curtain. Very fun video, first I watch on your channel and beautiful fashion style!
AYOO YOUR ART IS SICK I LOVE IT!!!
Nice art!
Your art is so cool! If that was years ago I bet your art is even more incredible now!
OMG CONGRAS ON MAKING IT TO A VID
It must be so weird to see your artwork in a video ha ha
Marvel: "Avengers: Infinity War is the most ambitious crossover of all time."
early 2010s internet: "Hold my unicorn Frappuccino."
Wasn't the Unicorn Frappuccino a late 2010s thing?
@@kittykittybangbang9367 before starbucks started promoting official limited time instabait drinks, "secret menu" starbucks orders were very popular in the early/mid 2010s. I definitely remember secret menu unicorn and mermaid frappes that just sounded like a batistas nightmare, as you had to rattle off a long and specific order since you couldnt order them by name as these secret menu items didn't actually exist (yet).
@@abathtub1411 oh 👌
LMAO
i was so obsessed with this. fans were so convinced that they were really gonna make a movie with the big four and when elsa came into once upon a time, everyone thought they’d bring in jack to be with her. a very strange fandom but the edits are genuinely really great
What did not help with that was the director/writer of Rise of the Guardians then endorsed Jelsa and said he wanted it to happen (then again, he’s like obsessed with shipping Jack Frost with almost female character he can find)
@@bluessbelles
Oooooh.. that’s fun..?
I wanted to make a movie. So many trailers. So many attempts at making a movie. Like actual voice auditions and everything. Such good memories.
@@exammole4545 I have so much unfortunate info about the director’s shipping exploits. He once tried to say that a REAL LIFE woman was so in love with Jack Frost, she threatened to K word herself if he didn’t return her feelings.
are you high? the edits were cringey garbage
I have a lot of respect for weird crossovers because the way people are able to fit together different plots and characters is just so creative and fun? Like, it can be cringe, but I like them on principle. I’m actually pretty involved with the current White Collar/DC fandom, which isn’t huge, but still oddly popular for how random of a crossover it is. It’s mostly based on a few works from a couple years ago that took off, and the discord that was started (I was one of the first ten members of the discord, and while I’m not a big figure in the fandom, I’ve been a passive observer for the last year or so) that helped people interested in the crossover get connected with other fans, which I think is a big part of the rise in recent works. For me, as a depressed 19 year old shut inside the house during a pandemic and unable to see my IRL friends, it was more about the fact that I stumbled into a community than it was about the crossover material itself, if that makes sense. It was really awesome to have a group of people who cared about the same niche fandom as I did, and that sparked my creativity and made me want to write, not because it was my single favorite fandom or whatever (I’d be hard-pressed to pick just one primary fandom, because that’s just not how I make and consume content), but because I knew there was this group of people who would read what I wrote and say nice things about it. This is all to say that I think a lot of it’s about other fans, not just the characters
Are those Dc/White Collar crossover about Tim or Bruce being Neal as an undercover identity? cause if so i may have read it too, through the timkon tag, my otp
Name a fandom that isn’t cringe tbf
I seen some of these niche fandoms evolve into something separate from the source material, such as changing the copyrighted characters into completely different/original characters and story. It's weird, but oddly interesting to see and even nice.
I remember being in the HetaOni fandom (Hetalia x Ao Oni) and the level of production and talent that was put in some of the artwork still amazes me to this day. Those were fun times.
Dear fellow fans, One Piece has had a crazy anime crossover with both Dragon Ball and Toriko.
Honestly, as someone who grew up on YT from 2008-2012, this fandom basically just felt like an evolution of ‘animash’ crossover AMVs to me. I never rly understood the appeal of crossover edits, which largely focused on editing Disney/popular animated movies’ characters together for a new narrative, but the existence of this fandom did not surprise me with that background lmao. Only surprising thing was how popular they were all collectively together on tumblr but tbh that just tended to be how 2012s tumblr rolled.
Fuck, I miss those days. So many old AMV/Animashes have been removed over the years. Literally a bucket load of nostalgia that I would love to have back 😭
This is an absolute accurate essay on that period on TH-cam 👌👀
The way I was able to relate and completely understand every word of your post terrifies me lmfao, I love this and completely agree dude
Ah yes, the godforsaken animash fandom
lmao i didn't even know this was a big fandom but animashes were awesome and blew my mind as a kid haha
I vividly remember absolutely loathing Jelsa for no more than one specific reason
It's just 2 ice power people so people went "ohoho ice cubes, let's ship" and I did not stand for that lol
i used to like it because of the ice powers really (and bc i was 13 and had no clue and just shipped characters all over) but now that i think about it its so dumb.........like they literally have nothing in common except the ice powers and having sisters
Me too! I thought jelsa were more like siblings lol. Jackunzel felt more fitting cuz opposites attract
I was the same too! And I specifically hated the “Enemies to lovers” trope, but only if it was with two characters from other’s works, if it was between someone’s custom characters them it is okay
Me too lol
To me it just felt too forced
personally the reason I didn't like it was because Elsa was like 25 and even though Jack was 300+ years old, he still looks and acts like a 14 year old and that was enough for me to be against it, but it could have been worse.... don't worry, I didn't go and scream at Jelsa shippers, (that would be just cringe and rude.)
25:22 "Technically both had a large group of friends and sidekicks but because they weren't conventionally attractive they were seen as mostly irrelevant."
If Astrid isn't conventionally attractive then my interests as a teen must have been unconventional lol.
personally i think she was excluded because they already had a blonde girl main character And a female character who was physically skilled. also maybe astrid was a bit too boyish for tumblr hipster edits...?
@@SkiddlyBink Yeah that sounds like a reasonable explanation. Personally, I have historically not been able to tell that someone is considered a tomboy until someone else points it out lol. When I was younger I think all that word meant to me was "hot" lmao
also how is the tooth fairy not conventionally attractive oh my goodness gracious
@@games_on_phone89 gonna be honest it's probably because she didn't have long flowing hair
@@games_on_phone89 Bro ikr? I wasn't into Astrid personally, ever since I was a teen I was never into rude girls, but the Toothfairy had me completely
I didn't ever want to go into this fandom, it looked so intense. I saw a book about it on wattpad (a Jelsa book with TONS of engagement, both good and bad) and the pictures on pinterest years back and just watched from the sidelines, in awe. Thank you for this video, you just brought me back some memories!
I was too busy on Percy Jackson Pinterest to dive into this fandom but I was constantly bombarded with the edits scrolling through the geek or humor categories back in 2013-2015
Each fandom has its intense sides tbf
ur pfp is cute
@@atlasintokyo1752 Thank you!
You just got into the intense side of it in its time of great turmoil. If you were introduced to its part where there were just 4 teenage crossover friends mingling and displaying their unique traits then who knows, maybe you'd be dragged in like the rest
Man, this fandom really embodies everything about early 2010's fandom culture.
I was never a part of it but it always seemed so... interesting? I guess?? This one and the "Disney" crossover one.
Now i really want to look up those crossovers again
Same. Wasn’t a part of it but it was sooo interesting to observe from the sidelines.
I miss the early 2010s
For some reason I hated this fandom as a young teen because I viewed them as the 'cool hipster fandom' that were encroaching on the 'real' nerdy fangirls who liked wtnv, homestuck and like marvel lol. As if we weren't all spending all day being cringe on the Internet instead of like going outside lol.
> Marvel
LOL
I WAS TRYING TO PUT THIS FEELING INTO WORDS, yes I felt the same way back then LOL
That's hillarious to know retrospectively! I always knew there was a divide, but never knew why. Yall were salty lol
@@nope6021 definitely lol, part of that individuality complex teens tend to go through I think lol
@@sunstrike2738 so glad someone else had the same experience lol
Since every season has an associated element, it was typically:
Jack - Winter - Water (cuz, yknow)
Merida - Summer - Fire (obvious)
Hiccup - Autumn - Wind (flying)
Rapunzel - Spring - Earth (magic flower)
this slingshotted my brain back to 2014 lmfao
Oh my god nothing like realizing you’re part of fandom history! lmao
I founded the original the-big-four group on dA with a friend of mine before passing it on to other people after leaving the fandom. It was a wacky crossover but we all had a lot of fun. Thanks for the walk down memory lane!
That's so cool!! Impacted the internet forever bahaha
thank you for your contribution to my childhood LOL
you were apart of this cringey shit?... may god have mercy on you
@@AbrasiousProductions They were young, let kids enjoy things
@@twilighthairball ill let kids enjoy good things instead of this mindless trash
The “creepy” side of this AU directly predicting the dark version of rapunzel in TTS like 6 years early is so funny to me 😭
It’s like the equivalent of “you can copy my homework, but don’t make it obvious.” 💀
I’m seeing so many foreign languages in this comment section 🤣! AU, TTS - whaaaaat?!
@@theskyischill tangled the series
ik they were in that writers room like "they won't notice right"
@@theskyischill AU stands for alternate universe
Alrighty, I have a lot to say:
1.Wasn't expecting you to call Pitch a tumblr sexyman with no hesitation.
2.The one part about the whole dark au, I gotta point out that black haired Merida looks like Bellatrix Lestrange
3.I almost got sucked into this fandom in the past
4. I agree that Rapunzel would be earth and Hiccup air.
5. Hiccup would most likely be in in Griffindor not Hufflepuff. That man is brave.
6.Why is there a fifty shades of grey au!?
7.Can't believe no one thought of the big four being poly.
8.This is just people looking a kids movies and going what if we mess with the multiverse and mix them together, quite literally.
9.I need a fanfiction that has every single one of these characters, I'd read it
10. most of them have some major parent issues, all have varying degrees of trauma
11. Non attractive? Ha, I had a crush on Ruffnut
I apologise for the rant (I can't spell)
OMG, I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT HOW THEY COULD BE WRITTEN AS POLY
"Loyalty" is typically seen as the "main" Hufflepuff trait, and I'd argue that's a significantly more dominant personality trait for Hiccup.
Personally I see Hiccup as more of a Ravenclaw. They’re inquisitive right? Hiccup loves learning. He finds the dragon and literally studies it because the dragon manual had no info on night furies. He was also shown to be very invested in his map making in the second movie and finding new lands and stuff. So as much as it was a thing back then to categorize characters I’d say both Rapunzel and Hiccup would be in Ravenclaw house. XD sorry for the essay. Also I totally y’all’s points too.
@@themoreyouknow6414 You know if this fandom's peak was right now, the LGBT-ness would've ramped up.
Ruffnut...?
_You, sir, have great taste_
This fandom is really a weird but super calm blessing. What’s even better is that it still kind of exists. Glad there’s videos like this to remind us.
Yeah, it sounds really wholesome
This fandom is _incredibly_ tame compared to some other shit I’ve found on the internet lmao
While I really liked this fandom, my best friend LOVED it. She had a Tumblr ask blog, she actively talked to others in the fandom, and wrote a lot of fics. I actually drew fanart for her via her suggestions. She even wrote out a whole AU mainly focused on Hijack that I drew comic pages for. I still have appreciation for it (it's basically one big polycule, so course I do) and I do know many awesome people who were in the fandom at one point.
We love polycules here. And also this fandom just seems so interesting and also has characters that I love, and they do all seem to go together very well!
your friend has an enormous brain
I agree that Hiccup should be wind and Rapunzel earth. That goes well with their seasons as well.
I disagree with the Merida is Fall and Hiccup is Summer. Personality wise they are the other way around. Making Merida fall because she has red hair is the only reason I can see for it and that is a poor reason.
Also why is Rapunzel, who while smart was more about showing care and loyalty to others, in Ravenclaw while Hiccup, who did show care but who had a substantial amount of his character arc focused on showing that brains beat brawn, in Hufflepuff?
I am all for these tropes but…. Do they even trope?
Ikr
I KNOW RIGHT
You are right and trust me there were many debates on this back in 2014
I think Rapunzel fits wind more seeing how free-spirited and high energy she is. Also the fact that her breaking free from her chains is a theme that I personally see working more with wind than earth.
Reminds me of whenever I see Narnia edits putting the Pevensies into HP houses.
I've seen Rise of the Brave Tangled Dragons every now and then on Pinterest, DeviantArt, and tumblr. Each time I saw it, my Big Sister™ instincts would activate and I'd actively encourage the creativity. It's just so cute and heartwarming to see kids doing what they love, no matter how crappy the editing is. There's just something about it that makes me see the artist in them, and I love it.
I know right? Honestly, compared to other fandoms, this super crossover just looks fun and run entirely on headcannon.
I have known the Elsa and Jack Frost pairing for a while. But I didn't know people has been shipping this movie character I don't even remember with all kinds of teen girl protagonists.
I would always see fanart of Jack Frost, Merida, Hiccup, and Rapunzel or Elsa as Hogwarts students. It was so weird😂
I remember reading fanfics on that au
There's one a game too 😭
What fandom isn’t weird?
The big 4 is one of the least offensive fandoms I've ever seen, personally. Fans were always creative and nice, and honestly they picked the characters that I was drawn to as a neurodivergent person, so I might have joined the fandom had I discovered it at its start :)
I think that’s probably because it mostly consists (and has always consisted) of kids, younger teens, and neurodivergent people like us. It’s pretty damn cool how positive ROTBTD is and more or less always has been.
Same oh my God
I agree, although diversity wasn't there I still would've felt included in a way
I didn't mean to put the thumbs down at first. I was trying to click the thumbs up. 😭
I would really like to join this fandom.
Everything changed when the Frozen attacked... Man, the whole thing sounds like a novel for teenagers and I kinda love it!
I always really appreciate how you approach these topics, I had my toes in like ALL of the fandoms you've covered, I'm STILL involved in some of them, and hearing someone talk about it in a way that isn't derogatory and mean-spirited is so nice, You're always very refreshing to watch especially because I love learning about all these weird internet phenomenon, but I hate the way most people talk about them
yes like even if it’s considered cringe now at least they were happy and clearly not hurting anybody there’s not much to gain from bashing it other than maybe a laugh and a few clicks which you can still get by not bashing it
yeah, i love how she actually compliments the hard work and love put into the fanarts and fanfictions and stuff. like sure its a little strange but you can see the care put into it and thats kinda sweet
I love how the majority of comments here are long, detailed accounts of people’s experience with this fandom and how it shaped them as a person in some sort of way. It’s incredibly nice to see a video that was able to touch something really special in a lot of people, and also see that reflected in the comments section with little to no scorn from “outsiders”
Agreed! Also I don't see how this fandom would ever deserve scorn, except of course from pretentious "grown ups". It was extremely fun and creative. Also, a gang of characters with potentially interesting dynamics is always great. I have extreme respect for anyone who put their heart and soul into the art and stories, it's great to see people thrive creatively or get a first few tastes of being creative.
I joined the fandom cause I was just like "oh there's a crossover movie?" and then I found out it was just a thing on the internet and I got way too involved, I read fanfiction, I made art (the art consisted of bases and stick figures with hair but art nonetheless) and it was something I entirely forgot about
Omg Yess same, I wonder if this exist anymore
"oh there's a crossover movie?"
I'd probably click if I saw that too. 😁
As a kid I thought SuperWhoLock was an actual show and I was so confused when I couldn't find anywhere to stream it
I really miss the early 2010's. I spent such a large portion of that era online so I witnessed it all, and as cringe-worthy as it was... it was already pretty enjoyable
Honestly same, they were fun
Gonna be honest I kind agree like as cringey as it was I also miss it.
Usually what is cringe is super fun anyway,literally 'Im cringe but I am free!"
When I was younger I loved the “Secret Trio”, which was a crossover between Danny Phantom, Jake Long, and Randy Cunningham. All of them had secret alter egos and dark spiky hair, so I guess that was why they were put together 😂
Didn't Disney drop Randy Cunningham after three years and 2 seasons? I never got the impression that they really liked the show.
@@davidhong1934 the show wasn’t popular. I’d say it’s underrated, but that’s just my personal opinion. The jokes were bad and the characters were meh, but for some reason it was my favorite out of the three anyways 😂. Unfortunately it was cancelled on a cliffhanger and the rest was history.
@@zodiacuniverse4663 same
@@davidhong1934 To be fair all three were fairly short running shows Jake Long only lasting 2 seasons and Danny Phantom lasting 3 Jake Long in particular did seemingly badly since they changed the art style to be drastically simplified in the second season and from what I heard Danny Phantom was supposed to have 4 seasons but was wrapped up in 3 cause the writing was on the wall for cancelation.
That and also EctoHam
I think the reason fandoms become a big thing is that fanfiction gives young writers an easy way to write a story with characters that are already fleshed out. It's hard to come up with your own original characters that aren't just direct copies of you with different moods or just walking tropes you see everywhere. Having characters that already have an interesting design, backstory, and personality allows the person to focus more on world building and plot development. I don't fault anyone for making fan fiction, in fact I encourage it. Any excuse to delve into the world of writing is a wonderful thing, and I hope that in the future, when fans grow up and out of their fandom, they can see that they have the power and the tools to make their own story. Sure, it'll take way longer to flesh out everything, but it's so much fun to have a full story that's yours.
There's a Cinderella 3 review that talks about fanfiction! You should watch it!
besides the worldbuilding and narrative side of things, i’d say that writing fanfiction can also be a great exercise in learning how to write different types of characters consistently! writing characters that already have an established personality & background can be a bit harder than people think, as you can’t just change them on a whim or make things up on the fly because you’re not starting from scratch. it’s kind of like the difference between having an assignment prompt vs none; on one hand it can be hard to come up with something on your own, but you’ll have the freedom to do literally anything. on the other hand, a prompt gives you a more immediate springboard for a story, but then you’re also given a certain limit to keep things in line with the specific prompt/concept.
yuh
Writer here! I also started with fanfiction and I agree. If I wouldn't have started with that, I would not be where I am now.
I know you had good intentions with this comment but the way you imply fanfiction is a "phase" for young writers really dismiss that fanfiction is a valid form of writing itself, not a learning phase, not something you are supposed to use as training wheels until you "grow out of fandom".
I don't write fanfiction to learn how to write, I do it because it brings me joy and I want to share it with other fans. I doubt writing originals will ever bring the same feeling.
11:26 I think there's another group and it's the 4 dads (Santa, Stoic, King Fergus and King Frederick) hanging together. Honestly seeing chad dads hang out together doesn't sound bad at all
I can see Stoic, Fergus and Santa hanging out, but Frederick looks so out of place there, probably because they look like badass dads he is more an adult Disney Prince
I remember writing fanfics about stoic x santa and king frederick for santa love but ended heartbroken 💀 the dark days
Who's King Frederick?
@@kittykittybangbang9367 Rapunzel's dad
@@MariaRodriguez-dx6sm oh 👌
I’m surprised she didn’t touch upon “Golden Blonde and Jet Black”...for those of you who don’t know, it was an impressively edited and really cute love story between Rapunzel and Mavis. I stumbled across it when I was younger and it was the first time I’d ever watched a lesbian pairing lmao.
OMG I COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT THAT
Is that where the edit of Maevis saying "it's okay, I am a... lesbo" came from?
@@kumatorahaltmanndreemurr Yeah yeah I think so
I SWEAR THAT VIDEO IS THE REASON IM BISEXUAL
@@Pink_pr1ncess SAME. that ship was the foundation of my bi awakening 😭
Back in the day, I had a classmate and she was so into this fandom that she had a lot of notebooks with thousands of fanfiction about this, and she used to make me read them and give her my feedback about her stories, I obviously never made fun of her I was very respectful with her unusual writing 😂. Hope she's doing better now.
Maybe she's gotten some stuff published? You should check.
Doing better? Sounds like she was living it up then 🤣
I cackled at "Hope she is doing better now". 😂😂
As an avid fanfic reader for well over a decade I definitely understand how especially younger readers and writers can be a bit unhinged, not in a bad way but still very much weird.
Omg this just reminded me that I used to inflict the same torture on my friends, just with my own original stories. Idk if that makes it better or worse lol.
@PestoMayo I was the other and sorta still am? But in a sorta ironic way where I'm aware it's pretty cringey but it's all for fun.
Ah yes. The time in my life my friendgroup and I cosplayed Hogwarts AU Big Four at a convention and everyone knew exactly what we where dressed as.
Which one where you? And are you still friends with any if these people? 😮😮😮