Thank you guys for watching! Ohhh Yurrrr! These are definitely the most real-feeling mesh drumheads I've played on. Especially the bass drums!! I expected them to be a LOT bouncier, but that sound patch in the middle really helps them feel like regular drum heads. UPDATE!!! I was able to get a discount code for you guys, but only for people who live in the continental US. Use code SAMUS10 for 10% off at rtom.com/store/ 🤘🤘
Awesome video. Have you thought about using something like the Zildjian Gen16 cymbals, or any other, triggered/low vol cymbals? Or even using Roland cymbal pads?
Before the triggers it sounds like "Silvester Anfang" by Mayhem off the "mediolanum capta est" album. Literally that's exactly what I thought of when I heard this lol.
Looks great! I have the other RTOM that you just put on top of your toms, with Zildjan L80 cymbals (living in a condo) and had no complaint from neighbors so far. Feeling of the RTOM is great, it's an amazing product and great alternative to building a 20 000$ studio! I am just wondering what's the benefice of using the RTOM drumheads you are reviewing in this video instead of using the one I got (that you put on top of your drums). I thought it was one of their main differentiator with remo? They seem to be a bit louder (which can be of interest to some depending of the level of noise you can make), maybe they work better with triggers? I have tried my RTOM with the Roland TM-2 module and corresponding triggers and it didn't work that great (hard to fix the triggers on the rubber rims).
Just a little FYI for people looking to get mesh heads like these or any for that matter! If you have a mesh head on your bass drum.. absolutely DO NOT use a felt beater on your kick pedal! The felt of the beater over time actually will wear away and eat straight through the mesh head. So either replace the beater with a different one, or do what Samus did, and get a bass drum patch. Also, for all your heads on your snare and toms this one isn't AS necessary, but try to use sticks with nylon tips as opposed to plain wooden ones. The wooden tips will wear as you play (DUH!) and as they do little pieces chip off, they split, splinter, etc. and when this happens you are also going to be damaging the mesh head! Just wanted to put this out there so someone doesn't spend a bunch of money on these heads only to destroy them in record time and not know why LMAO!
Well, gee, this is a really inexpensive way to use samples without the worry of mic bleed. That's pretty awesome. Might have to get these for the ol' kit once I get it out of storage, along with some new triggers, M'yah? Also, you gotta show me how to do that bahee magic.
@@fischanton4692 well yeah, you shouldn't be miking up shells with mesh heads in the first place. they are used for low volume practice. of course they would sound horrible acoustically 😂
I literally was just looking up some mesh heads for my kit. because I live in a apartment. and the first thing that came up was this video. My cav is now satisfied 👌
Wow! Great review! I'm a new bass and banjo player in my early 50's. My bass instructor suggested learning drums to help with beat and tempo. I am all too eager to do so! Having a blast learning music! The wife is opposed to drums but, perhaps with these and some other measures I could get a kit and use the heads! Thanks so much for this review!
I have the Black Holes and they’re a game changer for my silent practice. Combined with the Sabian QuietTone cymbals and it’s perfection. These work great for your triggers.
I have the silent stroke remos on my kit. I had to put tape on them to help resonate the sound because without it, there's barely any tone. These would be a nice upgrade.
If these heads have more rebound and give, they may help your wrists. That they are quieter is just a plus I guess. Although when they weren't triggered I heard a little rattle from the largest rack tom. Looking at the overhead shot it looks like it may have been rubbing rims with the middle rack tom. I may be hearing things, like 22.
I just came from the “new pedals” video that you uploaded a year ago. I noticed you aren’t using the 21s anymore. Is there any reason for that or a video you made explaining why?
Acoustic conversions are the way to go if you want to go electronic on the cheap (until you start getting Roland accessories). I found you can crank the heads down and get less spongy hits with 3ply mesh at the cost of a little extra volume. Double triggering is a big problem with the larger mesh 16"+ but seems to be fixed with the addition of Remo muffle rings (though my triggers are internal center mounted). Most modules are two zone for each drum except the kick (rim/head), which can be split with a special drumsplitter cable (regular wont work) allowing you to expand your kit with a low-end module (provided you don't do rim shots). For apartment living, you are pretty much safe with mesh kit except the beaters will still deliver a thumping noise to your downstairs neighbor in cases where the floor isn't concrete. Not as loud as a full on acoustic kit, but might still raise an issue.
samuss!!!! your drumming is absolutly fantastic!! even when you get new drumheads!! yup?? anyway hope your summer is going great and I just turned 52 not.............................. 22!!!!! Rock on Cheer!!
Absolutely brilliant review and a great product I’m using the ultra thick heads from drumtec with my low volume cymbals and a Yamaha ead with triggers in my loft as my practice kit they feel great but I’d like them to feel as close as possible to my acoustic kit that I take to the studio and gig and practice with the band with …if these feel even more like acoustic and I get some tone I’ll swap them out …thanks
Keeping the tone is key and quiter?? Wow! My neighbors might think I’m dead if they don’t hear me beating, hammering and beating some more. Now about the drums ohwhurrre lol 😂 lol 😂 You’re a trip man! Love the vids!!
Drum-tec make some pretty killer mesh heads you may want to look into in the future maybe you could nab one of their 8" pro heads to pair with this set so you could have your full setup its a thick single ply head and comes in black and this also has abit of drum volume so I think it would pair well the rest of your current heads
Old thread. I had them for 6 months....they eat your stick tips and your felt beaters. The patch is basically paper and it does give some tone but they get holes.
God damn it I tried to make exactly these about 3 months before this video came out, I bought expensive dual ply heads and scrapped a bass drum head to glue circles of drumhead plastic in the centre of each one. Massively expensive & only lasted a week before the heads were cracked & ruined. The lesson I learnt was don't put gorilla glue on expensive mesh heads... these look great though.
Wow, they are cheap! I got another brand with the same configuration, (had to buy one additional separate) and those run anout 10-15 more. I essentially got mine free, as I bought an open box set of Low volume cymbals, with the heads included, and the price was less than the cymbals alone new. But if I need to replace, I'll definitely consider these.
Mine are supposed to be in on Wednesday. Most of the silent cymbals have arrived. I haven't played drums in almost 7 years. Kinda scared to get back into it.
I'm sure he looked at his new drum heads with excitement... and then it disappeared when he looked at his kit when he realized he had to take it apart just to put it back together
Some weeks ago I asked on the chat of a live transmission if buying a set of silentstrokes and a set of red shot triggers sounded like a good idea to start my home studio (I live in an apartment). The answer sort of is in this video now, so I have just bought this set of mesh heads. As for the triggers, I think I can't afford the Chrome Elite or even the Pro yet, as I still need to buy a lot of things for my project; however, I haven't had any bad experience with the integrated Red Shot ones in my ddrum hybrid snare, so I'll try that set. Thanks for the review and the discount code. SEX!
One way to maybe avoid the inconvenience of having to remove the mesh heads if you need to play acoustically, is installing the mesh heads on the bottom of the drum, instead of the top. If your hardware allows it, just flip the drum to which ever side you need. This wouldnt apply to the snare drum for obvious reasons. In that case you just switch the snare drum head back to acoustic, or use two separate snare drums.
HEY SAMUS I recently saw your black hole video and considered getting those, but could you do a video explaining how to trigger these using the blackhole triggers?
Ok, i have a conundrum, I live in an apartment, i have an acoustic kit, so I bought like volume heads and cymbals, my neighbors complained. Than I bought an E kit, and again my neighbor complained. I was using headphones, no amp. What is my next step? Discontinue playing is not an option. Please make a suggestion. Thanks Don
Maybe depends on what time of day you're playing? If you're using an e-kit and they are STILL complaining, might be time to smear some poo on their door.
After all my years behind the kit and I still cannot wrap my head around the double strokes on the kick. Does master Samus have a how to somewhere for us not versed in such Bahee?
Direct drive pedals and a lot more calf muscles and ankles instead of mainly using hip flexors also if you wanna get a faster double kick try using a chain driven pedal but take the spring off and practice using only the rebound from your bass drum it’ll help dial in the heel toe as well as gain you more control and ultimately more speed 😊
You use mesh heads with triggers for decrease the noise and DB of the kit or to make them more presice sound in every hit?? You suggest it as a solution with lower volume kit and better sound? Why you didn't put inside the toms ,floors and snare some clothes or foam to lowering more the noise??Thank you for sharing these awesome mesh heads info with all us!!
Apartments, flats, etc, especially when populated, and drums don't do well. Try ground-floor accomodation when possible, avoid the central parts of the development, and huge courtyards. Underneath your rug, carpet put some thick yoga mats too, but ideally a house would be better. Keep up the good work mate
66Samus.. brilliant review.. trying to get these delivered to India. Do they have 13'' drum heads coz .. coz the mapex tornado comes with a 12 and 13 inch toms..
this is awesome! would have loved to hear the heads mic'ed! how can one practice with these head but not have the cymbals overpower the drum volume? i do a lot of intricate cymbal work so....the cymbal stuff in electronics or muting scenarios is like losing half of my chops..............
Those are actually quite difficult to get over here in the US because there’s already a company here similar to them with a patent of a piece of the pedal that Czarcie use so it’s not like going to a music shop and grabbing one lol 😂 but those are solid solid pedals 100%
@@ElitexBrikz you wont regret it trust me, i have tried loads of pedals but these are the best ever , if you can find me on fb i will show you mine ck’s
Cool I’m glad your a hard hitter,I’m sick of all the funk jazz drummers that try these,I want to know if they can take abuse.I hit hard and not cute hahah Great job
Thank you guys for watching! Ohhh Yurrrr!
These are definitely the most real-feeling mesh drumheads I've played on. Especially the bass drums!! I expected them to be a LOT bouncier, but that sound patch in the middle really helps them feel like regular drum heads.
UPDATE!!!
I was able to get a discount code for you guys, but only for people who live in the continental US. Use code SAMUS10 for 10% off at rtom.com/store/
🤘🤘
Awesome video. Have you thought about using something like the Zildjian Gen16 cymbals, or any other, triggered/low vol cymbals? Or even using Roland cymbal pads?
Can you play those mesh heads live? Just curious
Before the triggers it sounds like "Silvester Anfang" by Mayhem off the "mediolanum capta est" album. Literally that's exactly what I thought of when I heard this lol.
Looks great! I have the other RTOM that you just put on top of your toms, with Zildjan L80 cymbals (living in a condo) and had no complaint from neighbors so far. Feeling of the RTOM is great, it's an amazing product and great alternative to building a 20 000$ studio! I am just wondering what's the benefice of using the RTOM drumheads you are reviewing in this video instead of using the one I got (that you put on top of your drums). I thought it was one of their main differentiator with remo? They seem to be a bit louder (which can be of interest to some depending of the level of noise you can make), maybe they work better with triggers? I have tried my RTOM with the Roland TM-2 module and corresponding triggers and it didn't work that great (hard to fix the triggers on the rubber rims).
Samus plays jungle blaster
Samus saying "TWENTY TWO!" is the ultimate day brightener.
Time stamp please
@@alfieconnollyofficial 01:25 is one of two instances, I think.
@@thejonathandoan Thank you.
Dwenteh DUUUUUU🎶
And not the shredding he did on the kit?
Just a little FYI for people looking to get mesh heads like these or any for that matter! If you have a mesh head on your bass drum.. absolutely DO NOT use a felt beater on your kick pedal! The felt of the beater over time actually will wear away and eat straight through the mesh head. So either replace the beater with a different one, or do what Samus did, and get a bass drum patch. Also, for all your heads on your snare and toms this one isn't AS necessary, but try to use sticks with nylon tips as opposed to plain wooden ones. The wooden tips will wear as you play (DUH!) and as they do little pieces chip off, they split, splinter, etc. and when this happens you are also going to be damaging the mesh head!
Just wanted to put this out there so someone doesn't spend a bunch of money on these heads only to destroy them in record time and not know why LMAO!
Well, gee, this is a really inexpensive way to use samples without the worry of mic bleed. That's pretty awesome. Might have to get these for the ol' kit once I get it out of storage, along with some new triggers, M'yah?
Also, you gotta show me how to do that bahee magic.
3:10-4:30, So this is what it would sound like if Samus was a one man Drum Core band haha. Good stuff
wow mixing with this must be awesome, all cymbal through the overheads
@@fischanton4692 well yeah, you shouldn't be miking up shells with mesh heads in the first place. they are used for low volume practice. of course they would sound horrible acoustically 😂
Noice demonstration there Samus. Damn shame that there's no 8" mesh heads available yet but hey, at least they're bahee approved.
THEY ARE NOW AVALIABLE IN 8” and 18”!!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Damn dude. Your a badass drummer man. You deserve all the support you’re getting. Keep going. Never stop.
When you put the part with only mics i realized: holy shit no more bleeding between drums and cymbals. The time sparing in mixing. It's awesome.
I literally was just looking up some mesh heads for my kit. because I live in a apartment. and the first thing that came up was this video. My cav is now satisfied 👌
Wow! Great review! I'm a new bass and banjo player in my early 50's. My bass instructor suggested learning drums to help with beat and tempo. I am all too eager to do so! Having a blast learning music! The wife is opposed to drums but, perhaps with these and some other measures I could get a kit and use the heads! Thanks so much for this review!
I have the Black Holes and they’re a game changer for my silent practice. Combined with the Sabian QuietTone cymbals and it’s perfection.
These work great for your triggers.
Realistically, how quiet are these? Is anbody outside is going to hear my bass drum on blast beasts?
Will definitely give these heads a try, thanks Samus!!!
Awesome! Soooo good, presentation! When this video become public, I will share it with my drum companion! I don't play drums! *(guitar)* 👍👏
Just had these delivered, can't wait to throw them on and give them a test drive. Killer video, thanks!
Samus, you are a Master-beater, the king of master-beation.
I bow....kneel.
Without the triggers you have a perfect black metal kit!
I have the silent stroke remos on my kit. I had to put tape on them to help resonate the sound because without it, there's barely any tone. These would be a nice upgrade.
If these heads have more rebound and give, they may help your wrists. That they are quieter is just a plus I guess. Although when they weren't triggered I heard a little rattle from the largest rack tom. Looking at the overhead shot it looks like it may have been rubbing rims with the middle rack tom. I may be hearing things, like 22.
Rubbing rims. 😎👍🏻
I just came from the “new pedals” video that you uploaded a year ago. I noticed you aren’t using the 21s anymore. Is there any reason for that or a video you made explaining why?
Acoustic conversions are the way to go if you want to go electronic on the cheap (until you start getting Roland accessories). I found you can crank the heads down and get less spongy hits with 3ply mesh at the cost of a little extra volume. Double triggering is a big problem with the larger mesh 16"+ but seems to be fixed with the addition of Remo muffle rings (though my triggers are internal center mounted). Most modules are two zone for each drum except the kick (rim/head), which can be split with a special drumsplitter cable (regular wont work) allowing you to expand your kit with a low-end module (provided you don't do rim shots). For apartment living, you are pretty much safe with mesh kit except the beaters will still deliver a thumping noise to your downstairs neighbor in cases where the floor isn't concrete. Not as loud as a full on acoustic kit, but might still raise an issue.
You know it's good when it makes you giggle
Great review, & the Cable Guy reference at the end .. nice
samuss!!!! your drumming is absolutly fantastic!! even when you get new drumheads!! yup?? anyway hope your summer is going great and I just turned 52 not.............................. 22!!!!! Rock on Cheer!!
If samus alive during early 1900s. People would pay him to just push the foot pedal on their sewing machines.
The resonance on the snare drum is absolute ZEX
Bro your double strokes are so crazy I thought they were fake until I went down to 25% speed
May need some of these for my traps kit,already have the Sabina quiet cymbals
You're such a great drummer, Sam
Absolutely brilliant review and a great product I’m using the ultra thick heads from drumtec with my low volume cymbals and a Yamaha ead with triggers in my loft as my practice kit they feel great but I’d like them to feel as close as possible to my acoustic kit that I take to the studio and gig and practice with the band with …if these feel even more like acoustic and I get some tone I’ll swap them out …thanks
Sitting in the airport right now. Watching Samus really helps! ❤️🤘🏼👍🥁
Keeping the tone is key and quiter?? Wow! My neighbors might think I’m dead if they don’t hear me beating, hammering and beating some more. Now about the drums ohwhurrre lol 😂 lol 😂
You’re a trip man! Love the vids!!
4:10 starts playing demolisher
Drum-tec make some pretty killer mesh heads you may want to look into in the future maybe you could nab one of their 8" pro heads to pair with this set so you could have your full setup its a thick single ply head and comes in black and this also has abit of drum volume so I think it would pair well the rest of your current heads
Loving the Slipknot snare!
Joey snare*
Old thread. I had them for 6 months....they eat your stick tips and your felt beaters. The patch is basically paper and it does give some tone but they get holes.
Tantataaa is my favourite bass drum dimension.
Lol) 2:58 When such music comes in it usually means someone gonna be eaten soon))
Netflix- “are you still watching?” Someone’s daughter- 0:00 again
Samus low key found the solution if the soundproofing in the new house isn't enough should the new neighbors be bahobs about his playing lol
God damn it I tried to make exactly these about 3 months before this video came out, I bought expensive dual ply heads and scrapped a bass drum head to glue circles of drumhead plastic in the centre of each one. Massively expensive & only lasted a week before the heads were cracked & ruined. The lesson I learnt was don't put gorilla glue on expensive mesh heads... these look great though.
I'd love to have heard this full video with the full kit sound. Some of those fills were tasty
Awesome, I know what I'm getting for my kit...just need the size 8. 🤘😎🤘
Those are nice mesh heads!!
Wow, they are cheap! I got another brand with the same configuration, (had to buy one additional separate) and those run anout 10-15 more. I essentially got mine free, as I bought an open box set of Low volume cymbals, with the heads included, and the price was less than the cymbals alone new. But if I need to replace, I'll definitely consider these.
The shot where u vacuumed da heads was funny
Exactly what I did at my last apartment. Had to use more muffling though 😅
Mine are supposed to be in on Wednesday. Most of the silent cymbals have arrived. I haven't played drums in almost 7 years. Kinda scared to get back into it.
3:30 reminds me of King Diamond - Welcome Home! Would love to see you take that one on in a cover!
Probably good for training accuracy as well👌
You could use the rack tomcas a floor tom and gave a lars ulrich setup
Sounds like marching practice lol. Great stuff
Honestly, this makes the drum kit look more nice. It's all black now, and I love that color.
I like it black. Just like my metal.
1:53 THIS LOOKS FUN ALREADY HAHAHAH
6:02 Derek Roddy vibes incoming
I have cymbal and drum mutes that are really good by sound percussion
I was looking for this exact thing for my kick but there didn’t seem to be any anywhere I looked! Thanks!
I'm sure he looked at his new drum heads with excitement... and then it disappeared when he looked at his kit when he realized he had to take it apart just to put it back together
Some weeks ago I asked on the chat of a live transmission if buying a set of silentstrokes and a set of red shot triggers sounded like a good idea to start my home studio (I live in an apartment). The answer sort of is in this video now, so I have just bought this set of mesh heads. As for the triggers, I think I can't afford the Chrome Elite or even the Pro yet, as I still need to buy a lot of things for my project; however, I haven't had any bad experience with the integrated Red Shot ones in my ddrum hybrid snare, so I'll try that set. Thanks for the review and the discount code. SEX!
These would work perfectly
They sound pretty good on their own it could be a very cool sound effect
One way to maybe avoid the inconvenience of having to remove the mesh heads if you need to play acoustically, is installing the mesh heads on the bottom of the drum, instead of the top. If your hardware allows it, just flip the drum to which ever side you need. This wouldnt apply to the snare drum for obvious reasons. In that case you just switch the snare drum head back to acoustic, or use two separate snare drums.
Those are some clean doubles 6:30
I vibed too hard to the tom grooves 😂
Theres a few mesh heads that hangout at the circle k down the street
His double bass holy
I have that joey jordison snare. It's a powerhouse
HEY SAMUS I recently saw your black hole video and considered getting those, but could you do a video explaining how to trigger these using the blackhole triggers?
this should be your new "a "proper" explanation of drum triggers" video
killer killer killer killer KILLER!!!
🤘😆😆🤘
Ok, i have a conundrum, I live in an apartment, i have an acoustic kit, so I bought like volume heads and cymbals, my neighbors complained. Than I bought an E kit, and again my neighbor complained. I was using headphones, no amp. What is my next step? Discontinue playing is not an option. Please make a suggestion. Thanks Don
Maybe depends on what time of day you're playing? If you're using an e-kit and they are STILL complaining, might be time to smear some poo on their door.
@@66Samus hey Samus, thanks for the poo suggestion, I will try that!
Samus is just a beast, throw any head or drum kit at him and hear the shmizl unleash
Sounds a lot like drumline, actually.
Samus should make a shirt that says “OH YURR!” With his rock on face and sell it lol. It would definitely sell quick. Send me one too haha
Okay, I just bought some, they better be cool. 😘
After all my years behind the kit and I still cannot wrap my head around the double strokes on the kick. Does master Samus have a how to somewhere for us not versed in such Bahee?
It is absolutely insane how fast he can do that while looking like his feet aren’t even moving
Direct drive pedals and a lot more calf muscles and ankles instead of mainly using hip flexors also if you wanna get a faster double kick try using a chain driven pedal but take the spring off and practice using only the rebound from your bass drum it’ll help dial in the heel toe as well as gain you more control and ultimately more speed 😊
Ohhh yurr!
Im waiting for mine for at least 2 months now 😂
You use mesh heads with triggers for decrease the noise and DB of the kit or to make them more presice sound in every hit?? You suggest it as a solution with lower volume kit and better sound? Why you didn't put inside the toms ,floors and snare some clothes or foam to lowering more the noise??Thank you for sharing these awesome mesh heads info with all us!!
Great mesh heads👍
Could be great for tracking
Weird Al Jesus can rock that kit!!!! Damn!!
These look awesome! Definitely buying some. Are you still using the same bottom heads?
I bet I'd still get noise complaints lol I got noise complaints from my vdrums in my apartment. I told them to lick my cav 😂
Apartments, flats, etc, especially when populated, and drums don't do well.
Try ground-floor accomodation when possible, avoid the central parts of the development, and huge courtyards.
Underneath your rug, carpet put some thick yoga mats too, but ideally a house would be better. Keep up the good work mate
Hey Samus, I have a suggestion for you.
What would your kit sound like, if all cymbals were classics custom extreme-metal?
Sweet demo 👍🤘🤘🤘
Black Hole astrophysics, a new topic for Samus
So if you trigger a mesh head and send it direct to a DAW track, would there be enough info to use slate trigger and turn it into MIDI?
That was so fun to watch
What does is sound like when you have the snare wires on with those? Just curious
That's how you make a review video watchable in full length!!!!! at least for me.
(Even tho i do enjoy your other videos).
lol there's a full load of laundry inside there
Machine Gun Samus
66Samus.. brilliant review.. trying to get these delivered to India. Do they have 13'' drum heads coz .. coz the mapex tornado comes with a 12 and 13 inch toms..
this is awesome! would have loved to hear the heads mic'ed! how can one practice with these head but not have the cymbals overpower the drum volume? i do a lot of intricate cymbal work so....the cymbal stuff in electronics or muting scenarios is like losing half of my chops..............
Lmao. Goddamn it samus you’re so fucking hilarious. Love your channel. Thanks for like... being you... and stuff.
Samus have you evet tried Czarcie Kopyto????
Those are actually quite difficult to get over here in the US because there’s already a company here similar to them with a patent of a piece of the pedal that Czarcie use so it’s not like going to a music shop and grabbing one lol 😂 but those are solid solid pedals 100%
@@ElitexBrikz yeah i know , think its trick that sued CK’s for that patent , but You cant get better pedals than CK , i just love mine
@@Natasilles I have heard they are bad ass I wanna try them sometime hopefully In my life lol 😂
@@ElitexBrikz you wont regret it trust me, i have tried loads of pedals but these are the best ever , if you can find me on fb i will show you mine ck’s
More videos on gear, hardware, and accessories please
I tried these and liked them a lot but the center pad comes off easily and then you start getting glue on your sticks.
Cool I’m glad your a hard hitter,I’m sick of all the funk jazz drummers that try these,I want to know if they can take abuse.I hit hard and not cute hahah
Great job
Dude you are awesome!