Alot of people are saying change the fluid to mobil 1 synthetic trans fluid and it usually fixed the shutter, superior solutions sells a thermostat bypass for the transmission so it doesn't run 198+ degrees. The heat is what's is killing the torque converter and the transmission. I'm doing the mobil 1 fluid and bypass this weekend and see what happens we got just a slight shutter so hopefully it all helps.
I know some people who have ran the bypass and it has helped a lot. Their temps stay a lot cooler. Let me know how the Mobil 1 works for you. I would not mind knowing how performs and what it does with the shutter.
@@johnneset6422 Hey John, I have 2x 2016 GMC Yukon Denalis and I did the superior solutions bypass and the Mobil LV fluid recommended by GM and I dropped about 40-45 degrees on both, I also had an occasional jerk while turning and that went away. I did two fluid changes, the first was a pan drop and about a week later I syphoned the fluid from the top using a fluid extractor and added as much as I removed both times. I added a trans dipstick to make life easier as I change trans fluid regularly. Hope this helps u out.
Simply chaninging the fluid wont fix it. 6l80s that have programmed in TCC slip will all eventually die. You need to turn off TC/slip using HP Tuners or similar software. Your trans may last longer with new fluid, but constantly slipping a clutch will eventually kill the TC and run clutch material through your trans. The good news is with the TCC set to not slip in the tune, even a worn TCC can last a very long time.
@@lilmiket76 At the bottom of this comment is a video with a really good guide. If you have good computer skills, follow this line for line. You would either have to buy a HP tuners module, or rent one. Zzp performance rents them out for $100 (Plus $100 in credits to unlock your truck, so you would be spending $200). If you arent comfortable with software you could ask any Ls engine tuner who uses HP tuners if they can do it. If you are in Michigan I could also do it. It will stop your slipping. Depending how much metal is in the pan, you may also want to replace the torque converter, but the video also has a really good guide to evaluate that. Either way it is proven to save transmissions that were very bad. th-cam.com/video/sag3h2AQ2uU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=7d6HQvpTZXQR0wH5
Thanks for the video. My Truck will go into drive or reverse when I first start it up but after a couple of minutes it won’t move when drive or reverse could changing the transmission oil fix this. It’s a 2016 Silverado with 84,000 miles and never had the transmission oil changed
@@operationoverhaul yes it has! China JUNK! 60k for China JUNK! Over 100 years of manufacturing vehicle's and they still can not get it right!! But then again all of the brand's are garbage theses days...
The only two brands as of right now that I would trust to build a decent car/truck is Toyota and Honda. Most of the other companies are having a variety of issues.
Hey men i think i pushed the filter too hard, and when i turn it on my transmission is making an strange sound. Any idea what could be the problem do i need to redo the whole process and get a new filter i did not change the gasket on the filter either
Sounds like you pushed it to hard into the pump and it could be grinding the end of the filter. I would replace it again and try to wash the pump inlet out too
Added a drain plug to mine want drain it all but enough to remove pan with out a mess. Second service sence I bought it used pans clean as a penny. The first change was a bit dirty but want bad either has about 97,000 on the clock
@@operationoverhaul I believe they did...mine started to shudder, I just bought it, and before i did, he changed the fluid and filter like you did. He said it wasnt burnt or discolored, but around the pan magenet there was a buildup of what appeared to be very fine hairs...probably from the torque converter beginning to fail.
What does he mean by shutter when hitting 30-50 miles per hour cause I got a Silverado and it’s been jerking when I’m driving. Got insurance as well just like him
Some people use a racket strap an 2x4 an pull the exhaust down to get the pan out I am about to do this on my 2015 this weekend I don’t think ever been done I bought it couple months ago from used dealer it got 150000 on it so we see thanks for the video gonna use it
I saw that a few people did that as well. If it was my truck I probably would have gone that route but since this was a customers truck I did not want to risk damage to anything. It is probably much easier that way and like I said, I would do that if it was my truck all day long. Your welcome for the video and hope it goes good for you.
Lol me too kinda stressing on it thinking about bringing to Chevy to do it lol I got the tools an the no how just not sure if I wanna give it a go on my truck an it not work right lol
Yeah we will see I’ll let u know how it goes if I chicken out an had the dealer ship Do it or if I didn’t an didn’t mess it up Lol thanks for the info qn the video 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
@@operationoverhaul thanks. I’ve got a Yukon with the 6L80 tranny that I bought used at 119k miles. It’s now at 140k miles. No problems from the transmission and I’m going to change the fluid, filter, and gasket as I don’t think it’s ever been done. Just want to make sure I won’t cause a problem or exacerbate one by changing the atf. I’m not going to do a flush.
No not really. I told tye customer that it was pretty much gone once I saw the fluid but he said to finish it anyways and it last about another 2 or 3 months. He finally had it rebuilt and it has been doing good ever since though.
It is 80 inch pounds. I used an impact driver not an impact wrench. It is about 15 ft lbs on the impact driver and that will not hurt anything. Sorry if I confused you on anything.
This is not my truck, it is actually a customers truck that they had just bought about a month prior. He stated that it was slipping and wanted me to do a fluid change. This was the result. About 3 months after this, we rebuilt the transmission.
@@operationoverhaul My Dad was a Mechanic so I grew up in this horror lol people and their Junk..lol I'm old and retired now thank God..lol Rough life my friend
Way too much junk in the pan. I guess everyone does it different. I like to pull out the filter when the pan is resting on the cross pipe. I pull out the heat shield as mine likes to scratch the pan when pulling out. It's 80 inch pounds it's not much.
He recently had it rebuilt. He just needed to save some money to get it done. He said the truck still has a shudder on the 1-2 shift. He has taken it back to the transmission shop now to see what they said.
If you are doing a complete drain and fill of the pan and torque converter it is 12 quarts and if it is just a drain and fill of the pan it is 6 quarts
@@michaeljohnson91501 no, not ask the fluid comes out when the pan is dropped. The other half stays in the torque converter. This person wanted to a filter change but if you do just a filter and pan gasket you can add just 6 quarts but I would drain it again after a few thousand miles and add another 6 quarts to get a much of the old out as possible. I do prefer doing a full flush if possible over just a drain and fill.
I haven't changed the fluid or filter yet, I'm hearing a whinny type noice only when you put the tranny in any gear, anybody possibley tell me if that is bearings or tourqe converter, or what else????
Put a couple quarts in it before you start it then crank it up and let get to running temperature. Once it is up to temperature, check it and add until full. Then drive it a few miles and then check it again to top it off.
@@edwardmireles3315 the one I worked on just had the typical torque converter shudder and the fluid was dirty. The customer just wanted to see if the fluid change works help the shudder but I let them know that it would not help much if any at all. They eventually just replaced the transmission.
Do any of you genius's ever read your owners manual??? My 2015 said to change the transmission oil and filter first time at 45,000 miles+ many more useful info.
This guy bought the truck in this shape. It has been rebuilt since this video. Most people do not look at those. Now cars have a maintenance manual with cars but in most cases the only people looking at that is normally the mechanics.
Thanks for the great video! So glad to see it can be done without messing with the exhaust!
You are welcome. It is a little tight to do but if you take your time it is possible. Thanks for the view.
Alot of people are saying change the fluid to mobil 1 synthetic trans fluid and it usually fixed the shutter, superior solutions sells a thermostat bypass for the transmission so it doesn't run 198+ degrees. The heat is what's is killing the torque converter and the transmission. I'm doing the mobil 1 fluid and bypass this weekend and see what happens we got just a slight shutter so hopefully it all helps.
I know some people who have ran the bypass and it has helped a lot. Their temps stay a lot cooler. Let me know how the Mobil 1 works for you. I would not mind knowing how performs and what it does with the shutter.
How did the oil change go? Any noticeable difference afterwards regarding the shudder?
How’s that working out for you now?
Mobil 1 update please?!
@@johnneset6422 Hey John,
I have 2x 2016 GMC Yukon Denalis and I did the superior solutions bypass and the Mobil LV fluid recommended by GM and I dropped about 40-45 degrees on both, I also had an occasional jerk while turning and that went away.
I did two fluid changes, the first was a pan drop and about a week later I syphoned the fluid from the top using a fluid extractor and added as much as I removed both times. I added a trans dipstick to make life easier as I change trans fluid regularly.
Hope this helps u out.
Dang !! That fluid was original!!
Simply chaninging the fluid wont fix it. 6l80s that have programmed in TCC slip will all eventually die. You need to turn off TC/slip using HP Tuners or similar software.
Your trans may last longer with new fluid, but constantly slipping a clutch will eventually kill the TC and run clutch material through your trans.
The good news is with the TCC set to not slip in the tune, even a worn TCC can last a very long time.
I wanted to program it out with my tuner but the customer did not want to do that. He eventually had the transmission rebuilt.
I did the same thing and it helped mine a lot but still slips in 4-5 gear. Would that program help that or just replace the transmission?
@@lilmiket76 if it's still slipping and the fluid was dark like this one. I would probably do a replacement and tune it out.
@@lilmiket76 At the bottom of this comment is a video with a really good guide. If you have good computer skills, follow this line for line. You would either have to buy a HP tuners module, or rent one. Zzp performance rents them out for $100 (Plus $100 in credits to unlock your truck, so you would be spending $200). If you arent comfortable with software you could ask any Ls engine tuner who uses HP tuners if they can do it. If you are in Michigan I could also do it.
It will stop your slipping. Depending how much metal is in the pan, you may also want to replace the torque converter, but the video also has a really good guide to evaluate that. Either way it is proven to save transmissions that were very bad.
th-cam.com/video/sag3h2AQ2uU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=7d6HQvpTZXQR0wH5
Thanks for the video man, just got done doing mine and it fixed the shutter problem. Your video very helpful to the T. 😊
You are welcome. If you need anything else feel free to ask.
Thanks for the video. My Truck will go into drive or reverse when I first start it up but after a couple of minutes it won’t move when drive or reverse could changing the transmission oil fix this. It’s a 2016 Silverado with 84,000 miles and never had the transmission oil changed
It is a possibility. Could be something clogging the filter and causing it to loose suction of fluid.
That's exactly how I got my pan down..👍
The service data says to take the exhaust loose but you do not have to. He has since rebuilt the transmission as it was pretty much gone.
@@operationoverhaul how stupid!!
GM's used to be so easy to work on..
@@philllsxga.7737 that's truth. Plus their quality has continuously gone down as well in my opinion
@@operationoverhaul yes it has!
China JUNK!
60k for China JUNK!
Over 100 years of manufacturing vehicle's and they still can not get it right!!
But then again all of the brand's are garbage theses days...
The only two brands as of right now that I would trust to build a decent car/truck is Toyota and Honda. Most of the other companies are having a variety of issues.
Hey men i think i pushed the filter too hard, and when i turn it on my transmission is making an strange sound. Any idea what could be the problem do i need to redo the whole process and get a new filter i did not change the gasket on the filter either
Sounds like you pushed it to hard into the pump and it could be grinding the end of the filter. I would replace it again and try to wash the pump inlet out too
@@operationoverhaul it works now it doesn't make any noice, now what I'm having trouble is measuring the amount of ATF I should put in there.
Added a drain plug to mine want drain it all but enough to remove pan with out a mess. Second service sence I bought it used pans clean as a penny. The first change was a bit dirty but want bad either has about 97,000 on the clock
I wish they would have done that from the factory. I think it is a good investment to do a drain plug kit on these.
What did you use for a drain plug? And where did you put it
I ended up putting a new torque converter in mine.....at the moment it seems better. 200K miles, we will see!
I think these had a TSB or even a recall on the converters at one point stating a shudder. Hopefully yours will last you a while longer.
@@operationoverhaul I believe they did...mine started to shudder, I just bought it, and before i did, he changed the fluid and filter like you did. He said it wasnt burnt or discolored, but around the pan magenet there was a buildup of what appeared to be very fine hairs...probably from the torque converter beginning to fail.
How is it holding up now ?
Thanks so much sir!!
You are welcome and thank you for watching.
I have a 2011 1500 and im unaware of any type of "shudder". Is this shudder common on my older style truck? Or just the 2014+
From my experience I have seen it in the 2011 model year but no where near as much as the 2014 and up years.
What does he mean by shutter when hitting 30-50 miles per hour cause I got a Silverado and it’s been jerking when I’m driving. Got insurance as well just like him
Some people refer to it feeling like you are driving over rumble strips.
Some people use a racket strap an 2x4 an pull the exhaust down to get the pan out I am about to do this on my 2015 this weekend I don’t think ever been done I bought it couple months ago from used dealer it got 150000 on it so we see thanks for the video gonna use it
I saw that a few people did that as well. If it was my truck I probably would have gone that route but since this was a customers truck I did not want to risk damage to anything. It is probably much easier that way and like I said, I would do that if it was my truck all day long. Your welcome for the video and hope it goes good for you.
Lol me too kinda stressing on it thinking about bringing to Chevy to do it lol I got the tools an the no how just not sure if I wanna give it a go on my truck an it not work right lol
Transmission were one of the only things I didn’t mess with they scare me to much stupid stuff going on
They can be a headache sometimes. Just a lot of parts that can go wrong.
Yeah we will see I’ll let u know how it goes if I chicken out an had the dealer ship
Do it or if I didn’t an didn’t mess it up
Lol thanks for the info qn the video 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Good Job
Thank you, I appreciate the comment.
Did changing the fluid make the problem worse?
No it didn't make it worse but it really did not help it either. He eventually had it rebuilt at a transmission shop and it still has a small shudder.
@@operationoverhaul thanks. I’ve got a Yukon with the 6L80 tranny that I bought used at 119k miles. It’s now at 140k miles. No problems from the transmission and I’m going to change the fluid, filter, and gasket as I don’t think it’s ever been done. Just want to make sure I won’t cause a problem or exacerbate one by changing the atf. I’m not going to do a flush.
@@timothysteadham331 do the thermostat bypass as well,..it keeps the fluid cooler
Did that help?
No not really. I told tye customer that it was pretty much gone once I saw the fluid but he said to finish it anyways and it last about another 2 or 3 months. He finally had it rebuilt and it has been doing good ever since though.
Impact wrench? I read the torque setting for the pan is 8-10 ft. lbs.
It is 80 inch pounds. I used an impact driver not an impact wrench. It is about 15 ft lbs on the impact driver and that will not hurt anything. Sorry if I confused you on anything.
Thank you for the update, however, no need to apologize. I should have done a better job of listening.
Are there any traces on the transmission after changing the oil?
Not that I know of at the moment
You should do this every 40 thousand miles. That fluid was burnt
This is not my truck, it is actually a customers truck that they had just bought about a month prior. He stated that it was slipping and wanted me to do a fluid change. This was the result. About 3 months after this, we rebuilt the transmission.
@@operationoverhaul My Dad was a Mechanic so I grew up in this horror lol people and their Junk..lol I'm old and retired now thank God..lol Rough life my friend
Way too much junk in the pan. I guess everyone does it different. I like to pull out the filter when the pan is resting on the cross pipe. I pull out the heat shield as mine likes to scratch the pan when pulling out. It's 80 inch pounds it's not much.
He recently had it rebuilt. He just needed to save some money to get it done. He said the truck still has a shudder on the 1-2 shift. He has taken it back to the transmission shop now to see what they said.
I read it takes 12 quarts now I'm confused...is it 6 or 12?
If you are doing a complete drain and fill of the pan and torque converter it is 12 quarts and if it is just a drain and fill of the pan it is 6 quarts
@@operationoverhaul so not all the fluid comes out when removing the pan? Is it okay to add 6 new quarts of fluid to the 6 old quarts?
@@michaeljohnson91501 no, not ask the fluid comes out when the pan is dropped. The other half stays in the torque converter. This person wanted to a filter change but if you do just a filter and pan gasket you can add just 6 quarts but I would drain it again after a few thousand miles and add another 6 quarts to get a much of the old out as possible. I do prefer doing a full flush if possible over just a drain and fill.
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Does this same set up work for a 2012 Chevy Silverado?
Yes this should be the same procedure for a 2012 Silverado.
I haven't changed the fluid or filter yet, I'm hearing a whinny type noice only when you put the tranny in any gear, anybody possibley tell me if that is bearings or tourqe converter, or what else????
Xq cortas el video antes de quitar la tapa y des pues de colocarla ???
La cámara murió mientras lo filmaba y no me di cuenta antes de volver a colocar la bandeja.
Do I Poor the oil when truck is on or off? Do I drive it than check the oil when truck on?
Put a couple quarts in it before you start it then crank it up and let get to running temperature. Once it is up to temperature, check it and add until full. Then drive it a few miles and then check it again to top it off.
Was the trans acting up before changing fluid. And how is it acting now
@@edwardmireles3315 the one I worked on just had the typical torque converter shudder and the fluid was dirty. The customer just wanted to see if the fluid change works help the shudder but I let them know that it would not help much if any at all. They eventually just replaced the transmission.
@@operationoverhaul dam
@@operationoverhaul I’m having the same problem with the shudder but at 115k idk if it’s just the oil or the trans
That torque converter is smoked.
Yeah the whole transmission was shot to be honest. He had it rebuilt since this video was taken.
Do any of you genius's ever read your owners manual??? My 2015 said to change the transmission oil and filter first time at 45,000 miles+ many more useful info.
This guy bought the truck in this shape. It has been rebuilt since this video. Most people do not look at those. Now cars have a maintenance manual with cars but in most cases the only people looking at that is normally the mechanics.
Can you come help me in AZ😂
If I was in your area I would definitely help but AZ is a little bit out of my area 😆
@@operationoverhaul where are you located
@@DANIELSTv I'm in south carolina