This is a great demonstration of the Quarter Horse being the Quickest and the Thoroughbred being the Fastest. Quarter horse also being incredibly versatile.
this is a accurate comparison quarter horse pulls away in the short distance, thoughbred pulls away in longer distance, but its pointless comparing them there both great breeds but bred for different puposes
i love both QH and TB racing, and i know that it all depends on the distance of which they race. because this was a half mile instead of a quarter, the TB won. if it had been a quarter mile, the QH would've won. That's just how the breeds work, no bias to it!
Despite tiring on the last stretch that quarter horse acutally dominated that thoroughbred. That quarter horse held almost the same exact speed the whole mile. She ran her fastest up until that last stretch and the thoroughbred pulled up not even winning by a stride. Quarter Horses are americas best athletes.
Interesting race. I'm glad that they went at a neutral distance, because if they had stopped at a quarter mile the QH would have certainly had it, and if they had gone longer than that, the TB would have dominated. I think this was a fair distance, because neither horse was really far ahead of the other. It would be neat if there were more match races between QHs and TBs, but the whole Ruffian tragedy does make me a bit hesitant about match races, although any race is inherently risky.
According to Bloodhorse, Dr. Fager ran the 2nd quarter of his world record mile in 20.6 seconds while carrying 134 pounds. They claim that is probably the fastest quarter mile ever run in the body of a race at any distance, including distances as short as 3F. The world record for a quarter mile on a dirt surface is, I believe, 20.57. Clearly, Dr. Fager is one thoroughbred who had quarter horse speed.
Do those times factor in the flying start though? Cause the second quarter mile of a race would of course be faster than the record from a standstill. Just curious.
@@lukasalihein The present world record for 1/4 mile was set by the Quarter Horse, First Moonflash. From a standing start, the time was 20.274. I might also add that a previous record holder, Evening Snow, set his record, reaching an attained speed of 55 MPH. By the way, Dr.Fager was in a class of his own.
they both where breed for racing, just different lengths but their breeding routes are mainly the same...both have Arabian heritage. Many TB go on to different careers after flat racing and become hurdlers, Steeplechasers, show jumpers, Eventers Dressage horses..even barrel racers and cow horses...TB are smart and keen to learn...but Racing is what it was bred for and what general public knows it for...there are many TB types from long legged slim build to the more compact bodies ones...Cross a TB with a warm or cold blooded horse breed and you can get any type of horse for any job...which is where the Quarter Horse came from....you can't have QH without TB...both are amazing :)
I think the modern thoroughbred with its emphasis on speed is actually just as fast as a QH these days, with the added bonus of having that phenomenal stamina
Am I right in thinking 870 yards is the top distance for Quarter Horses? If so that was some performance by Little Miss Leader. Are there races run in America over 870 yards where Thoroughbreds compete against Quarter Horses?
Ive seen thoroughbreds DOMINATE over quarter horses even in the quarter mile. They are both extreme athlete but the thoroughrbed is and always will be the fastest, you cant change that,
And the thoroughbred would have beat the QH by even further the further they went. It was a neutral distance and the TB won. That's why TB's are the greatest example of athleticism in any sport.
i have a bloodstock book and the man who owned , bred and trained two winners of the "all american"said his horses were 7/8 's throughbred. if throughbreds weren't faster why would he max. out on throughbred breeding? by the way one of founding stallions of quarterhorses was a t.b. if i recall.
I think the quarter horse was impressive and was on the outside so if it was a factionally shorter race, she would have blown it away. I'd also be interested to know the price difference as yearlings! I'd also like to see QH and greyhound race too...
Tiny little thoroughbred mare, would be interesting to have seen a race with a leggier horse. But true to form, the quarter horse gets up to speed much fast.
It takes the TB a while to wind up but when the QH drifted out….I knew it was over. Unless the QH faces a quality TB sprinter that will go with them right out of the gate…..like an Artex or Kona Gold type sprinter.
The thing is quarter horses were built for short spurts of speed where thoroughbreds were built as the ultimate running machine, they have a heart over twice the size of any other breed and lungs to match. I love both but to me a thoroughbred is the ultimate horse for racing. :)
Well thoroughbreds have a heart weighing in at 8.5lbs, that's about average but the breed has been bred so the heart can take the distance, they are between a quarter horse for speed and between an Arabian for stamina. Though secretariat was a cool race horse, his heart was almost 3 times the size, weighing over 20lbs.
Thoroughbred's have a greater stamina than the Quarter Horse. However, the Quarter Horse is actually faster than the Thoroughbred. In case you didn't notice in the video, the Quarter Horse was ahead in the beginning, and actually pulling away from the Thoroughbred. It is only because of the Thoroughbred's stamina that it won the race. Learn more about your horse breeds.
That's exactly what I'm saying, isn't it? It doesn't really make sense to race a QU against a TB as they've been bred for completely different purposes. It's like comparing a tennis player to a ping-pong-player.
Actually, I can.Thoroughbreds are extremely fast, but a quarter horse USUALLY wins the first quarter mile,even though after that a thoroughbred will usually catch up and pass them. This USUALLY happens in most quarter mile races, though not all horses conform to the breed standards.
Quarter horses are faster over short distances because they have shorter legs and a stockier build so they can get their legs under them quick to reach top speed almost immediately. They are the fastest horse in the quarter mile, hence their name. It is harder for thoroughbreds to start quick because of their lengthy legs and sleek build, but once they reach their speed, they can pull off a much bigger and faster stride than a QH. And they have the Arab endurance in their breed to their advanta
This stuff always comes up especially when americans want to hold out in any kind of way. It's quite easy to solve, just do it, that's all. Here we saw what we saw, period. The rain, the mud, the inside, WTF, we saw what we saw. The distance that makes one a sprinter and the other a long sprinter(TB are not resistance champs, arabs are) can vary, just like with humans, yet the cu-toff can be accepted at 400m, 1/4 mile. Bolt must have a good 400m, but not champ time(we all know he's 100m + 200m beast, right?). So the QH certainly goes damn well up to 400m (1/4 mile), yet must also have very good times in 600m-800m but not champ times. Clock the greatest runners of both breeds for speed in any distance you want. Then if you want, put them together to see who actually races better (like with humans), here calmness "prior to", responsiveness, heart & soul and many more things come into play. So all you TB and QH people interested in this, just go ahead and do it, don't philosophize over it, just do it.
Dang Erous You are correct. Quarter horses have strong, explosive muscles, which make them very fast in the short distances, but once they hit that half mile mark, they are about spent, for the most part. Short powerful strides compared to the long strides of a Thoroughbred.
theres nothing silly on this race.........distance was a key element for the two horses. kinda short for the tb and kinda long for the qh so it was a strategical race for both.
Not even close. The.TB was held back while the quarter horse was left full speed from the start and you can even see by the finish line. The quarter horse was out of gas..The TB just got warmed up when the quarter horse was out of gas…Both good horses but not a chance for the QH if the race was four or 500 m the QH would’ve been 30 lanes behind
The race was less then a half mile, doesn't take much stamina to win that, besides the quarter mile world record is held unofficially by a TB Dr Fager in 20 seconds and that was in the middle of the race! And the 4 fastest horses in history haven't been QH. But I love qr
THERE IS NO BEATING A QUARTER HORSE OVER A QUARTER MILE. WTF does this match race prove exactly...??? The Quarter Horse CRUSHED The Thoroughbred over the quarter mile.....then the stamina-bred Thoroughbred caught up and won because it was over a quarter mile race....SHOCKER......
Had the jockey held the QH back the first length she would have won the race. He let her go too quick out the gate. QH are stamina animals, not sprinters.
MinockerSpanichle I could've sworn that's what they said in the ESPN movie they made about her. That's why you don't see any match racing going on in the Thoroughbred world anymore.
12345KATETHEGREAT Uh, huh, and Ruffian broke down in 1973, I think. She was later euthanized after undergoing surgery when she injured herself when coming out of the anesthesia.
This is a great demonstration of the Quarter Horse being the Quickest and the Thoroughbred being the Fastest. Quarter horse also being incredibly versatile.
this is a accurate comparison quarter horse pulls away in the short distance, thoughbred pulls away in longer distance, but its pointless comparing them there both great breeds but bred for different puposes
You need more school.
@@notyourproblem8381 not your problem.
i love both QH and TB racing, and i know that it all depends on the distance of which they race. because this was a half mile instead of a quarter, the TB won. if it had been a quarter mile, the QH would've won. That's just how the breeds work, no bias to it!
that was actually pretty neat to watch
Despite tiring on the last stretch that quarter horse acutally dominated that thoroughbred. That quarter horse held almost the same exact speed the whole mile. She ran her fastest up until that last stretch and the thoroughbred pulled up not even winning by a stride. Quarter Horses are americas best athletes.
No, the thoroughbred was held back, she would have won over a two hundred meter sprint too
Wow, I didn't realize quarter horses were fast over short distances. Miss Fancy Patch did a great job!
How they got their name " quarter" horse the fastest at a quarter.
Distance goes to the thoroughbred.
Just saw this for the first time, in 2017 !
Nov 2024 here
Interesting race. I'm glad that they went at a neutral distance, because if they had stopped at a quarter mile the QH would have certainly had it, and if they had gone longer than that, the TB would have dominated. I think this was a fair distance, because neither horse was really far ahead of the other. It would be neat if there were more match races between QHs and TBs, but the whole Ruffian tragedy does make me a bit hesitant about match races, although any race is inherently risky.
According to Bloodhorse, Dr. Fager ran the 2nd quarter of his world record mile in 20.6 seconds while carrying 134 pounds. They claim that is probably the fastest quarter mile ever run in the body of a race at any distance, including distances as short as 3F. The world record for a quarter mile on a dirt surface is, I believe, 20.57. Clearly, Dr. Fager is one thoroughbred who had quarter horse speed.
Do those times factor in the flying start though? Cause the second quarter mile of a race would of course be faster than the record from a standstill. Just curious.
Caller One’s 1st quarter in the 2000 Breeders Cup Sprint was 20.8.
@@lukasalihein The present world record for 1/4 mile was set by the Quarter Horse, First Moonflash. From a standing start, the time was 20.274. I might also add that a previous record holder, Evening Snow, set his record, reaching an attained speed of 55 MPH. By the way, Dr.Fager was in a class of his own.
Which one won
Interesting thing is that the TB came off the blocks ahead of the QH.
they both where breed for racing, just different lengths but their breeding routes are mainly the same...both have Arabian heritage. Many TB go on to different careers after flat racing and become hurdlers, Steeplechasers, show jumpers, Eventers Dressage horses..even barrel racers and cow horses...TB are smart and keen to learn...but Racing is what it was bred for and what general public knows it for...there are many TB types from long legged slim build to the more compact bodies ones...Cross a TB with a warm or cold blooded horse breed and you can get any type of horse for any job...which is where the Quarter Horse came from....you can't have QH without TB...both are amazing :)
Both were not bred for racing! A thoroughbred yes but a quarter for cattle work.
Actually, quick note, the quarter horse actually was bred from mustang and Arabian, the thoroughbreds had come from a different line.
Ya the QH needs that instant speed for Ranch work it was intended for
No actually QHs are bred for stamina. You need a horse that can work 8 hr days and run out a herd of cattle that are ranging their entire lives.
I thought they banned match races since Ruffian died
Neither breed can be praised or faulted. Both are outstanding breeds, bred to do their jobs.
I think the modern thoroughbred with its emphasis on speed is actually just as fast as a QH these days, with the added bonus of having that phenomenal stamina
Am I right in thinking 870 yards is the top distance for Quarter Horses? If so that was some performance by Little Miss Leader. Are there races run in America over 870 yards where Thoroughbreds compete against Quarter Horses?
This is very typical and expected. For the first quarter mile, it's all Quarter Horse. After that, the Thoroughbred is gone for home.
Making a quarter horse go around a turn is like putting Shaq on the charity stripe.
+Kap Kaplowitz Is that why quarter horses are used in barrel racing? bwahahaha
Ive seen thoroughbreds DOMINATE over quarter horses even in the quarter mile. They are both extreme athlete but the thoroughrbed is and always will be the fastest, you cant change that,
qh where breed for short distance speed work such as cow hearding tbs for long distance speed :)
And the thoroughbred would have beat the QH by even further the further they went. It was a neutral distance and the TB won. That's why TB's are the greatest example of athleticism in any sport.
who is faster quarter horse or thoroughbreed?
Luka kuprashvili I think quarter
Luka kuprashvili Quarter horses have short bursts of speed but, TB can last longer
I was there that day!! Didn't bet .... no one there thought the quarter horse would win.
i have a bloodstock book and the man who owned , bred and trained two winners of the "all american"said his horses were 7/8 's throughbred. if throughbreds weren't faster why would he max. out on throughbred breeding? by the way one of founding stallions of quarterhorses was a t.b. if i recall.
I think the quarter horse was impressive and was on the outside so if it was a factionally shorter race, she would have blown it away. I'd also be interested to know the price difference as yearlings! I'd also like to see QH and greyhound race too...
Very sloppy track
Tiny little thoroughbred mare, would be interesting to have seen a race with a leggier horse. But true to form, the quarter horse gets up to speed much fast.
Quarter horses have higher top speed than thoroughbreds. That doesn't mean the slowest QH is faster than the fastest TB
It takes the TB a while to wind up but when the QH drifted out….I knew it was over. Unless the QH faces a quality TB sprinter that will go with them right out of the gate…..like an Artex or Kona Gold type sprinter.
The thing is quarter horses were built for short spurts of speed where thoroughbreds were built as the ultimate running machine, they have a heart over twice the size of any other breed and lungs to match. I love both but to me a thoroughbred is the ultimate horse for racing. :)
Well thoroughbreds have a heart weighing in at 8.5lbs, that's about average but the breed has been bred so the heart can take the distance, they are between a quarter horse for speed and between an Arabian for stamina. Though secretariat was a cool race horse, his heart was almost 3 times the size, weighing over 20lbs.
GOOOOOOO Thoroughbred!!!!!!!!! I like Quarter Horses too, but not as much as Thoroughbreds!!!!!!!!!!
Thoroughbred's have a greater stamina than the Quarter Horse. However, the Quarter Horse is actually faster than the Thoroughbred. In case you didn't notice in the video, the Quarter Horse was ahead in the beginning, and actually pulling away from the Thoroughbred. It is only because of the Thoroughbred's stamina that it won the race. Learn more about your horse breeds.
Because a QH is the fastest breed for one quarter mile,though a TB will almost alwase catch up in long distances.
I don't have anything against either breed but this proves that Thoroughbreds are better than Quater Horses.
Savannah Frillman 😂😂 you should say quicker not better
at long distance but quarter horses are quicker in short distance hence the name quarter horse (quarter mile)
The equivalent of 100m sprinter vs 400m sprinter
They weren't banned, they just haven't been attempted because of that.
That's exactly what I'm saying, isn't it? It doesn't really make sense to race a QU against a TB as they've been bred for completely different purposes. It's like comparing a tennis player to a ping-pong-player.
Thoroughbreds and Quaterhorses race against each other alot at 870 yds, sometimes the Quarterhorses win and sometimes the Thoroughbreds win.
what is all that comparing QH to TB about? would it make sense to compare Usain Bolt to Hicham El Guerrouj? not really.
TB are the BEST :)))
Actually, I can.Thoroughbreds are extremely fast, but a quarter horse USUALLY wins the first quarter mile,even though after that a thoroughbred will usually catch up and pass them. This USUALLY happens in most quarter mile races, though not all horses conform to the breed standards.
Quarter horses are faster over short distances because they have shorter legs and a stockier build so they can get their legs under them quick to reach top speed almost immediately. They are the fastest horse in the quarter mile, hence their name. It is harder for thoroughbreds to start quick because of their lengthy legs and sleek build, but once they reach their speed, they can pull off a much bigger and faster stride than a QH. And they have the Arab endurance in their breed to their advanta
This stuff always comes up especially when americans want to hold out in any kind of way. It's quite easy to solve, just do it, that's all. Here we saw what we saw, period. The rain, the mud, the inside, WTF, we saw what we saw. The distance that makes one a sprinter and the other a long sprinter(TB are not resistance champs, arabs are) can vary, just like with humans, yet the cu-toff can be accepted at 400m, 1/4 mile. Bolt must have a good 400m, but not champ time(we all know he's 100m + 200m beast, right?). So the QH certainly goes damn well up to 400m (1/4 mile), yet must also have very good times in 600m-800m but not champ times. Clock the greatest runners of both breeds for speed in any distance you want. Then if you want, put them together to see who actually races better (like with humans), here calmness "prior to", responsiveness, heart & soul and many more things come into play. So all you TB and QH people interested in this, just go ahead and do it, don't philosophize over it, just do it.
Dang Erous You are correct. Quarter horses have strong, explosive muscles, which make them very fast in the short distances, but once they hit that half mile mark, they are about spent, for the most part. Short powerful strides compared to the long strides of a Thoroughbred.
Yep
theres nothing silly on this race.........distance was a key element for the two horses. kinda short for the tb and kinda long for the qh so it was a strategical race for both.
The thoroughtbred had an advantage not starting from the gate.
and that’s way they’re called quarter horses
i have tb and a qh...tb can bet a qh at a quater of amile...thats is how they both got there names..but they both r endurance as well. ..
Hell Yea!!!!!
far out QH's have some power!! would have easily beaten the TB if it was a shorter distance.
ROTFLMAO!!!! Miss Fancy Patch is/was well over 75% TB!!!
Not even close. The.TB was held back while the quarter horse was left full speed from the start and you can even see by the finish line. The quarter horse was out of gas..The TB just got warmed up when the quarter horse was out of gas…Both good horses but not a chance for the QH if the race was four or 500 m the QH would’ve been 30 lanes behind
I had a TB filly that couldn't be beat goin a1/4. She was somethin.
I think that if a quarter horse can get proper training for a long enough time, i think that they could beat a thorough bred. Thumbs up if you agree.
The longer the race the less chance a quarter horse has of winning.
The race was less then a half mile, doesn't take much stamina to win that, besides the quarter mile world record is held unofficially by a TB Dr Fager in 20 seconds and that was in the middle of the race! And the 4 fastest horses in history haven't been QH. But I love qr
God bless all of yall In Jesus Name I Pray Amen.
THERE IS NO BEATING A QUARTER HORSE OVER A QUARTER MILE. WTF does this match race prove exactly...??? The Quarter Horse CRUSHED The Thoroughbred over the quarter mile.....then the stamina-bred Thoroughbred caught up and won because it was over a quarter mile race....SHOCKER......
Very close tho
Had the jockey held the QH back the first length she would have won the race. He let her go too quick out the gate. QH are stamina animals, not sprinters.
I'd like to see a bunch of quarterhorses go 10 furlongs, see what happens.
90293Mike TB usually don't even run that far
1-1/2 (after Man O'War) ;)
D distance was to far for d quater horse
so close qh
Secretariat is NUMBER 1
Tricia Bloch frankel
Thoroughbreeds ate breed to race
Originally so were quarter horses
Nonetheless....Just Arabian horse❤️❤️
Quarter horses are breed for rodeos and herding cattle
Quarter horses were actually also originally bred to race, but also be able to herd and work cattle.
That's funny...I thought match racing was outlawed after Ruffian's breakdown…
Was it? :/ I didn't know.
MinockerSpanichle I could've sworn that's what they said in the ESPN movie they made about her. That's why you don't see any match racing going on in the Thoroughbred world anymore.
*****
Maybe because it is a Quarter horse against a TB, not a TB against TB....?
MinockerSpanichle well, this was in 1995...
12345KATETHEGREAT Uh, huh, and Ruffian broke down in 1973, I think. She was later euthanized after undergoing surgery when she injured herself when coming out of the anesthesia.
Exacta paid $3.00
Which is no real achievement. Stamina.
Bahahaha I love that the QH lost. Thats how is should be
Any good horse can race a mile