Great video. I carry a 351pd in the Mika pocket holster 80% of the time loaded with Federal punch ammo. I did an upgrade on the springs 12lb main spring and 9lb rebound spring and extended firing pin from tk custom. Also removed the key lock and plugged the hole. I polished all internal parts. It is now a pleasure to put 100 rounds a month through. It works 100% no light strikes. The key is using good ammo. Its a great revolver that i have great confidence in. Thanks for the video.
I would definitely pick the 22 magnum, lighter weight, more capacity and better sights. For me that would be a no brainer. But a carry option is kind of an individual thing what works for one person might not work for another. Both are very nice guns. Thanks for the great video
I like the 351 for pocket carry, it’s easy to draw quickly with a sticky holster. Only issue I’ve run in to is I have to clean it every hundred rounds or so when I’m using cheap practice ammo. I got lazy once after I put a little over 100 rounds through and didn’t clean it and next time at the range the cylinder completely locked up after about 14 rounds. I took it home and cleaned it and it works fine, so it was just the dirty rimfire gumming it up. Also Luckygunner did a decent review of WMR and Gold Dot expanded close to .38 with good penetration out of a Ruger snub, he had several misfires but I haven’t had a misfire in close to 500 rounds with the 351c.
Subscription earned. I own the 351PD, and have carried it both in-pocket and IWB. For the latter, I can heartily recommend the DeSantis Clip Grip. S&W’s .22 Magnums offer low recoil, adequate power, superior capacity, and ease of carry for those with sufficient hand strength to pull the necessarily-heavy (but smooth) trigger. Excellent video. The scale and “load out weights” for each gun are very useful information.
I have both types, and I prefer the 351. Seven rounds vs five, and back on target much more quickly with the 351. And of course, the weight difference. I’m thinking of getting a 351PD to go with the C model. And BTW, I have a 43C in 22LR for cheap practice. Love those J Frames.
For me it's the 642. I just like the bigger hole and power end of it. I reload so I cook up the type of rounds I like to carry, and by that I can lighten the load a tad by going to a 110gr bullet and even a little slower loading to aid in recoil management for follow up shots. I do like the wad cutter load and it's my go to defense round for the .38spl. IMO, you can't do much better for a defense round in a wheel gun. As for .22mag, I think it is plenty for self defense and having 7 vs 5 is a no brainer, but the 351C is a chunk in other ways, that being price and availability that I really can't justify for the two extra rounds and the slight weight advantage. Again for me, the 642 is right up there with being one of the best snub options and with the right loading is just hard to beat for defense work. If I did end up getting the 351C it would most likely end up sitting guard duty in the safe along with several other guns I wanted at the time but seldom use for anything. Personally, I like the centerfire cartridge over the rimfire and IMO, that's the only clear advantage over the 351C; the weight is negligible and only shows up while in the pocket. I like the grips you have on your 642, gonna look for some of those for mine. Thanks for the video, enjoyed watching it. TC
I carry a 642 daily. For me the weight is negligible and it is a gun I can have on me at all times. I wouldn't feel bad with either option. As you mentioned, a lot of advantages with the 351C.
I just picked up a 351C today from my local gun shop. First revolver for me. I'm looking for pocket-carry gun and the 351C is what I choose. Gave it a clean & lube and going to the range tomorrow. I'm familiar with 22WMR as I have a PMR30 that's fun to shoot, but the 351C is option for me in hot Texas to pocket carry. I am amazed at how lightweight it is.
As a fellow Texan I hear you about the heat! Good choice in the 351C, once you get used to the trigger I'm sure you'll find it more than suitable for self defense distances. Thanks for watching!!
I use a wheel gun for my CCW as well and thought I had to make this exact choice. Then I found out about the charter arms professional in .32 H&R with 7 shot capacity and chose that instead. Its a little extra weight and a 3" barrel but that was worth the price to get those 7 shots and have them not be rimfire.
I'm an LCR guy, but I battle the same dilemma from time to time. I notice my 22mag has been getting a lot more carry time than my 38spl these days. I'm jealous of those 7 round cylinders! I'd probably rock that one if I were you.
My preference would be choosing between an 8 shot . 22long S&W Airlite and an old S&W . 32 magnum 6 shot Airlite or Airweight. Between the 2 u have there I'll go with the . 22. Between my choices I'd go with the . 32 Airweight. They should start making them again.
I've been looking for a 351 with no luck. I like the fact that it's very light and holds more rounds than the 642. I did find a Ruger LCR but it weighs as much as the 642 and only holds 6 .22wmr. Go with the 351. Just my two cents.
@@HillbillyMusings I had to send my LCR in 22 mag back twice to Ruger. Bought it new. Trigger locks up...Also spent casings are very difficult to eject.. Gonna get a Smith.
I own a 642. Out of the box, the trigger was atrocious, so I did a trigger job to slick it up and as well as lighten the springs, and now it shoots pretty great. I normally just shoot .38 wadcutters out of it and I have found it to be perfectly reliable with the better trigger. I wouldn't pick the 642 without a trigger job and I would hesitate to lighten the trigger pull on a rimfire, but I haven't shot this particular .22 mag, so I can't speak to its shootability. I say go with whichever one you are more accurate with... shot placement counts more than anything else
I have a 642 .I carry a lot in the summer now.it a good pocket gun .I would carry the 22 mag also I think they are both good choices I don't like having only 5 rounds but I'm in a safe area and keep to myself mostly so idk which one I would choose
Would find a 327 six shot. I think Ruger does a J frame size one but not sure about Smith. Then it would be the PD 360 after that to maintain the 11 plus ounces for carry sake with some +p 38 loads. Would be anxious to rely on a 22 magnum though can see the attraction.
i just got a 351c for this. when they say it's lighter you really just have to pick one up and handle it. it feels even lighter than people think it will be. it's only 4oz more than my cell phone fully loaded. 4oz is a deck of cards. you could hide this thing in your boxers
I am a huge fan of the 38 special and 32 S&W but I have to say I am really getting a hankerin' for a rimfire. What is the noise level of the .22 mag compared to standard pressure .38 special? I would be inclined to go LR just due to the reputation of the .22 mag being loud. I touched off a chief's special outdoors once (key word once) without hearing protection. I imagine my tactical hearing would be zero after letting one loose indoors.
Kind of crazy, but there are some reasons. Mainly, the 351C is what they call an AirLite model vs an AirWeight model like the 642. The Airlites are typically lighter, scandium frames (aluminum) and the cylinder on the 351C is aluminum as well. Also the 351C has other features to lighten such as machined grooves to reduce metal where possible. Still, it is a bit crazy to pay more for the .22 vs the .38, but its worth it in my opinion. Thanks for watching!!
@@HillbillyMusings that makes complete sense now! Thank you for clearing that up. I wish they would make a regular version with non exotic metals to bring the price down so more people can get them. I was able to get a Taurus .22wmr steel alloy version for under $400. If smith made a similar version even with 1 less round capacity, I would def pick the smith.
Sounds like you’ve nearly made up your mind. I carry a 642 in the waistband but if I had the 315 I’d carry that. I would certainly think the 22mag is plenty, especially with warmer weather coming and no heavy clothing to slow it down Pocket carry would certainly benefit from the lighter weight also. Probably can’t go wrong either way 🍻
Most ballistics reports that I've seen show that the 22 Mag does have a slight edge (very slight) when you're using the short barrel specific rounds in both calibers (ie, Punch, Gold Dot, etc...). Probably not enough to make a difference though in all honesty. I frequently carry 22 LR and don't feel any more undergunned than when carrying 22 mag. Thanks for watching!!
I looked at those too, but the ammunition so pricey and inaccessible! I think I saw range ammo for $55 at a local place recently, which was a rarity as well.
@@mrmann44 Revolver brass lasts forever. Once you have that all you need is bullets, powder and primers. Nothing is easy to find these days but I can reload 32 Mag just as easily as anything else.
Been thinking about grabbing the s&w351 since lately I been carrying my lcp .22 and I really carry it because of the weight I’m very rarely in danger and rather be armed and comfortable rather than the opposite. Doesn’t the .22lr version have 8 rounds? If it did that would be too hard of a choice for me to make 7mags or 8 lr idk I’m okay with a .22 at the end of the day. I’d like the pd model with this more slick grip I like the single action option for range use and just to have it. Looks better and I haven’t had snagging issues with any of my revolvers. Yet.
The Smith 22 LR version is the 43C and it is a 8 round cylinder. Very nice gun, but I would probably choose the 351C for 7 rounds of .22 Mag vs 8 of 22 LR. I wish Smith made one with an exposed hammer though with SA/DA capability, but they don't. Ruger doesn't either unless you go to the 3" barrel LCR.. Closest I can find is the now discontinued Taurus 94 9 shot in .22 LR 2" snubnose. I picked one up recently, will shoot a video soon on it. Thanks for watching!!
I rather go with more stoping power and a good shot placement. The 22 mag in the winter with all the clothing tends to slow down on penetration and having to empty the gun on somebody to stop the person could lead to excessive use of force.
Thank you for the video! I have a 442 with a 342pd titanium cylinder dropped in, making it 13.2 ounces unloaded; I love that gun with all my heart. However, I love 7 rounds of soft shooting too, and I think I will be getting a 351c or 351pd as well.
really hot day, the 351c, not so hot, 642, really cool day , BOTH!. in the house wearing sweatpants, depends on your mood. either way you can't go wrong.
@@HillbillyMusings took my 351c out today for a thorough ringing out. The heavy trigger pull is not a deal breaker but it is something that has to be trained through. Trigger-pull discipline is a must.
The pug might be good with your criteria. My problem with these, and I had the 642, is the trigger pull at 12 lbs was excessive. I got the 351 pd and like it a lot. 22mag, in my opinion, is sufficient for citizen self defense.
I'm having the same debate as to which one to buy... I'm leaning towards the 351c because it will be more comfortable for my wife to shoot since I am trying to get her to be armed more often. Plus she is not as good of a shot as me so I would feel better knowing she has 7 shots instead of 5.
Honestly, the 351C is a substantially heavier trigger pull than the 642. It's not as bad as some people make it out to be though, especially if you have a lot of DA revolver experience. For self defense distances it is not a concern for me. If you do get her one, definitely be sure she gets plenty of range time on it and brushes up once or twice a year. Thanks for watching!
I don't want to throw a monkey wrench into this, but there is a 3rd J Frame that has to be considered. The 340PD. I have a 442, 351C & the 340PD. Weight wise, it's the same as the 351C. As you know, the trigger on the 351C is very stiff & it can't be fooled with, or misfires will happen. No, I do NOT shoot 357's in the 340PD. Mine is loaded with Buffalo Bore Standard Pressure 110 grain 38spl Barnes (all copper) bullet. Yes, it's even more expensive than the 351C, but for the weight & bullet choice, I can justify the cost. All 3 are great guns P.S. In my opinion, the MIKA pocket holster is the best there is.
Only drawback of the 351c is the trigger, which is horrible. I have a 442PC and K6S and they've spoiled me for revolvers. Having said that, a 351 is in my future.
22 magnum isn't as powerful as a .38. There is no getting around that. But 22 magnum is not a joke. It is NOT 22lr. If you load it with the right ammo, it is very effective with almost no recoil. You can get more power, but it comes at a cost of being harder to shoot. I think 22 mag is fine, to be honest. If I have a problem that cannot be solved with 7 rounds of 22 magnum, I have a problem which probably cannot be solved with any pistol.
If you just want a "get off me" gun, either will bark loud enough to achieve that goal. Federal Punch in .22 Mag is no slouch of a round either. Plus you'll get 2 more rounds to help seal the deal. The only time I'm carrying a snubbie is as a backup gun. Then I will carry my On-duty Bulldog in .44 spl. If I'm just running to the store for milk or some other quick task, where I'm in sweats or shorts. My EDC is a Glock 19, and I've carried it nearly every day since August of 2000.
642 all day. The 38 special +P is way more powerful than the 22 and there are many videos out there which prove this. Secondly the center fire round is more reliable than a rimfire round. Third the trigger; both suck when new but the 642 can get lighter springs and an action job and is much better after. With a 22 you can't do that, you're stuck with the heavy clunky trigger pull. Fourth is cost of ammo, 38 spcl and 22 Mag are both high. Only 22 lr is cheap. Fifth the weight difference is negligible. They are both very light guns. Sixth, the county sheriff in my county will not grant a CCW with any 22 caliber pistol. It has to be 32 or better. Thanks!
I like revolvers, but the only way I would ever carry a snubby would be as a back up to my main carry. You should always prepare for the worse and hope for the best. A 5 shot revolver anything isn't preparing for the worse. I know about FBI statistics and rounds per typical shooting, Can you guarantee that's the kind of shooting you'll be involved in? You owe it to your loved ones who depend on you to protect them to carry something more substantial. Not trying to ruffle any feathers, that's just my two cents.
I agree, but sometimes a quick run to the store and you want something, no need something you can drop into your jacket or hoodie pocket. Rather have a .22 with 7-8shots on me than my 21rnd pistol at home.
While I love both guns and .22WMR is my all time #1 choice for bobcat, coyote, raccoon and grey fox, it is NOT my choice for human zombies. I’ll take the .38spl over a .22magnum anyway of the week. I’ve been carrying a j-frame .38spl as a backup gun now in law enforcement for 32 years and still going. .38 is much better than .22WMR
LOL, a .22lr pistol will deal with the pitbull. .38 on a bear, might be better curling up like a ball. then shoot it in the balls with either caliber if it gets to rough.
Great video. I carry a 351pd in the Mika pocket holster 80% of the time loaded with Federal punch ammo. I did an upgrade on the springs 12lb main spring and 9lb rebound spring and extended firing pin from tk custom. Also removed the key lock and plugged the hole. I polished all internal parts. It is now a pleasure to put 100 rounds a month through. It works 100% no light strikes. The key is using good ammo. Its a great revolver that i have great confidence in. Thanks for the video.
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Robert Mika pocket holsters rule.
I would definitely pick the 22 magnum, lighter weight, more capacity and better sights. For me that would be a no brainer. But a carry option is kind of an individual thing what works for one person might not work for another. Both are very nice guns. Thanks for the great video
Thanks for watching Rob!!
I like the 351 for pocket carry, it’s easy to draw quickly with a sticky holster. Only issue I’ve run in to is I have to clean it every hundred rounds or so when I’m using cheap practice ammo. I got lazy once after I put a little over 100 rounds through and didn’t clean it and next time at the range the cylinder completely locked up after about 14 rounds. I took it home and cleaned it and it works fine, so it was just the dirty rimfire gumming it up. Also Luckygunner did a decent review of WMR and Gold Dot expanded close to .38 with good penetration out of a Ruger snub, he had several misfires but I haven’t had a misfire in close to 500 rounds with the 351c.
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Subscription earned. I own the 351PD, and have carried it both in-pocket and IWB. For the latter, I can heartily recommend the DeSantis Clip Grip.
S&W’s .22 Magnums offer low recoil, adequate power, superior capacity, and ease of carry for those with sufficient hand strength to pull the necessarily-heavy (but smooth) trigger.
Excellent video. The scale and “load out weights” for each gun are very useful information.
Thanks for the kind words Mr. Maddox and Thanks for watching!!
I have both types, and I prefer the 351. Seven rounds vs five, and back on target much more quickly with the 351. And of course, the weight difference. I’m thinking of getting a 351PD to go with the C model. And BTW, I have a 43C in 22LR for cheap practice. Love those J Frames.
I would love to have BOTH the 351PD and the 43C! Just so darn expensive :( Thanks for watching!!
For me it's the 642. I just like the bigger hole and power end of it. I reload so I cook up the type of rounds I like to carry, and by that I can lighten the load a tad by going to a 110gr bullet and even a little slower loading to aid in recoil management for follow up shots. I do like the wad cutter load and it's my go to defense round for the .38spl. IMO, you can't do much better for a defense round in a wheel gun. As for .22mag, I think it is plenty for self defense and having 7 vs 5 is a no brainer, but the 351C is a chunk in other ways, that being price and availability that I really can't justify for the two extra rounds and the slight weight advantage. Again for me, the 642 is right up there with being one of the best snub options and with the right loading is just hard to beat for defense work. If I did end up getting the 351C it would most likely end up sitting guard duty in the safe along with several other guns I wanted at the time but seldom use for anything. Personally, I like the centerfire cartridge over the rimfire and IMO, that's the only clear advantage over the 351C; the weight is negligible and only shows up while in the pocket. I like the grips you have on your 642, gonna look for some of those for mine. Thanks for the video, enjoyed watching it. TC
Thanks for the comments and Thanks for watching!! I agree, it's very hard to beat a good 642 in many regards.
Probably would go with the little magnum, but both are excellent little pistols. I have always loved that 351.
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I carry a 642 daily. For me the weight is negligible and it is a gun I can have on me at all times. I wouldn't feel bad with either option. As you mentioned, a lot of advantages with the 351C.
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I just picked up a 351C today from my local gun shop. First revolver for me. I'm looking for pocket-carry gun and the 351C is what I choose. Gave it a clean & lube and going to the range tomorrow. I'm familiar with 22WMR as I have a PMR30 that's fun to shoot, but the 351C is option for me in hot Texas to pocket carry. I am amazed at how lightweight it is.
As a fellow Texan I hear you about the heat! Good choice in the 351C, once you get used to the trigger I'm sure you'll find it more than suitable for self defense distances. Thanks for watching!!
I use a wheel gun for my CCW as well and thought I had to make this exact choice. Then I found out about the charter arms professional in .32 H&R with 7 shot capacity and chose that instead. Its a little extra weight and a 3" barrel but that was worth the price to get those 7 shots and have them not be rimfire.
I've been eyeballing a .32 H&R or .327 magnum! thanks for watching!!
I'm an LCR guy, but I battle the same dilemma from time to time. I notice my 22mag has been getting a lot more carry time than my 38spl these days. I'm jealous of those 7 round cylinders! I'd probably rock that one if I were you.
I love the LCR's too :) Thanks for watching!!
My preference would be choosing between an 8 shot . 22long S&W Airlite and an old S&W . 32 magnum 6 shot Airlite or Airweight. Between the 2 u have there I'll go with the . 22. Between my choices I'd go with the . 32 Airweight. They should start making them again.
I've thought about trying one of those LCR 327 Magnums to shoot regular 32s in. Thanks for watching!!
Now you're cooking with gas!
They just started making them again
I've been looking for a 351 with no luck. I like the fact that it's very light and holds more rounds than the 642. I did find a Ruger LCR but it weighs as much as the 642 and only holds 6 .22wmr. Go with the 351. Just my two cents.
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@@HillbillyMusings I had to send my LCR in 22 mag back twice to Ruger. Bought it new. Trigger locks up...Also spent casings are very difficult to eject.. Gonna get a Smith.
I own a 642. Out of the box, the trigger was atrocious, so I did a trigger job to slick it up and as well as lighten the springs, and now it shoots pretty great. I normally just shoot .38 wadcutters out of it and I have found it to be perfectly reliable with the better trigger. I wouldn't pick the 642 without a trigger job and I would hesitate to lighten the trigger pull on a rimfire, but I haven't shot this particular .22 mag, so I can't speak to its shootability. I say go with whichever one you are more accurate with... shot placement counts more than anything else
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I own the 351 PD and the Taurus 856, love em’ both. Easier to carry the 351PD for Me.
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I have a 642 .I carry a lot in the summer now.it a good pocket gun .I would carry the 22 mag also I think they are both good choices I don't like having only 5 rounds but I'm in a safe area and keep to myself mostly so idk which one I would choose
Very good feedback! Yep the J-frames fit perfect in my Carhartt and 5.11 shorts pockets. Thanks for watching!!
I carry both often. Together, .38 in shoulder rig. .22 in pocket or cross draw. Some time ( like cutting grass) in fanny pack
sounds like a good setup! Thanks for watching!!
Would find a 327 six shot. I think Ruger does a J frame size one but not sure about Smith. Then it would be the PD 360 after that to maintain the 11 plus ounces for carry sake with some +p 38 loads. Would be anxious to rely on a 22 magnum though can see the attraction.
I've heard good things about the .327 mag and yes Ruger does make a LCR sized one. Could be a very good option. Thanks for watching!
I have a 442 and now I’m definitely going to check out the 351c
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I went with the 351c. The trigger is NOT NEARLY as bad as advertised.
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i just got a 351c for this. when they say it's lighter you really just have to pick one up and handle it. it feels even lighter than people think it will be. it's only 4oz more than my cell phone fully loaded. 4oz is a deck of cards. you could hide this thing in your boxers
excellent choice...Thanks for watching!!
I am a huge fan of the 38 special and 32 S&W but I have to say I am really getting a hankerin' for a rimfire. What is the noise level of the .22 mag compared to standard pressure .38 special? I would be inclined to go LR just due to the reputation of the .22 mag being loud. I touched off a chief's special outdoors once (key word once) without hearing protection. I imagine my tactical hearing would be zero after letting one loose indoors.
I haven't shot them side by side, but I will say the .22 MAG is LOUD. Thanks for watching!!
What I don’t understand is why the price premium on the smaller caliber?
Kind of crazy, but there are some reasons. Mainly, the 351C is what they call an AirLite model vs an AirWeight model like the 642. The Airlites are typically lighter, scandium frames (aluminum) and the cylinder on the 351C is aluminum as well. Also the 351C has other features to lighten such as machined grooves to reduce metal where possible. Still, it is a bit crazy to pay more for the .22 vs the .38, but its worth it in my opinion. Thanks for watching!!
@@HillbillyMusings that makes complete sense now! Thank you for clearing that up. I wish they would make a regular version with non exotic metals to bring the price down so more people can get them. I was able to get a Taurus .22wmr steel alloy version for under $400. If smith made a similar version even with 1 less round capacity, I would def pick the smith.
I am in the process of changing from a 642 to s 351C myself
Hard to go wrong with either. Thanks for watching!!
I have both myself. 351 for carry around home. The 642 lives in my recliner pocket.
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Sounds like you’ve nearly made up your mind. I carry a 642 in the waistband but if I had the 315 I’d carry that. I would certainly think the 22mag is plenty, especially with warmer weather coming and no heavy clothing to slow it down
Pocket carry would certainly benefit from the lighter weight also. Probably can’t go wrong either way 🍻
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You should have went with the 43c. What's cheaper to shoot and the Federal Punch and CCI Stingers are just as effective as the 22wmr rounds.
Most ballistics reports that I've seen show that the 22 Mag does have a slight edge (very slight) when you're using the short barrel specific rounds in both calibers (ie, Punch, Gold Dot, etc...). Probably not enough to make a difference though in all honesty. I frequently carry 22 LR and don't feel any more undergunned than when carrying 22 mag. Thanks for watching!!
The best option is to split the difference with a 6 round 32 mag. The titanium ones are only slightly heavier than the 351c.
Excellent idea! Thanks for watching !
I looked at those too, but the ammunition so pricey and inaccessible! I think I saw range ammo for $55 at a local place recently, which was a rarity as well.
@@mrmann44 Revolver brass lasts forever. Once you have that all you need is bullets, powder and primers. Nothing is easy to find these days but I can reload 32 Mag just as easily as anything else.
I would definitely pick them up 351 say the 22 magnum comes very close to 38 in ballistic close I said not exact
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My carry is the 351 c with gold dots
thats my ammo of choice as well in my .22 mags. Thanks for watching!!
Been thinking about grabbing the s&w351 since lately I been carrying my lcp .22 and I really carry it because of the weight I’m very rarely in danger and rather be armed and comfortable rather than the opposite. Doesn’t the .22lr version have 8 rounds? If it did that would be too hard of a choice for me to make 7mags or 8 lr idk I’m okay with a .22 at the end of the day. I’d like the pd model with this more slick grip I like the single action option for range use and just to have it. Looks better and I haven’t had snagging issues with any of my revolvers. Yet.
The Smith 22 LR version is the 43C and it is a 8 round cylinder. Very nice gun, but I would probably choose the 351C for 7 rounds of .22 Mag vs 8 of 22 LR. I wish Smith made one with an exposed hammer though with SA/DA capability, but they don't. Ruger doesn't either unless you go to the 3" barrel LCR.. Closest I can find is the now discontinued Taurus 94 9 shot in .22 LR 2" snubnose. I picked one up recently, will shoot a video soon on it. Thanks for watching!!
@@HillbillyMusings awesome can’t wait to check it out! Too many decisions…
351C for the win
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I rather go with more stoping power and a good shot placement. The 22 mag in the winter with all the clothing tends to slow down on penetration and having to empty the gun on somebody to stop the person could lead to excessive use of force.
good point! Thanks for watching!!
I vote 351 because I'm getting old and will need 2 extra shots. 🤣 just bought the 43C and thinking about the 351 also.
I'd love to get a 43C, have to settle for the LCR right now. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the video!
I have a 442 with a 342pd titanium cylinder dropped in, making it 13.2 ounces unloaded; I love that gun with all my heart. However, I love 7 rounds of soft shooting too, and I think I will be getting a 351c or 351pd as well.
Sounds like a sweet setup on that 442! thanks for watching Bill!
really hot day, the 351c, not so hot, 642, really cool day , BOTH!. in the house wearing sweatpants, depends on your mood. either way you can't go wrong.
Thanks for watching Glenn!
Exactly the two choices I am torn between.
Definitely a tough call :(
@@HillbillyMusings took my 351c out today for a thorough ringing out. The heavy trigger pull is not a deal breaker but it is something that has to be trained through. Trigger-pull discipline is a must.
Guess it depends on the caliber of your advercery
True!! Thanks for watching!
I pocket carry a 340PD, about the same weight as your .22 magnum.
I'd love to snag me a 340PD. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!!
The pug might be good with your criteria. My problem with these, and I had the 642, is the trigger pull at 12 lbs was excessive. I got the 351 pd and like it a lot. 22mag, in my opinion, is sufficient for citizen self defense.
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I'm having the same debate as to which one to buy... I'm leaning towards the 351c because it will be more comfortable for my wife to shoot since I am trying to get her to be armed more often. Plus she is not as good of a shot as me so I would feel better knowing she has 7 shots instead of 5.
More shots is always a nice plus. Thanks for watching!!
I like the 351c.
good choice :) Thanks for watching!!
What's the difference in trigger pulls for DA? I really want to get a 351c for my wife.
Honestly, the 351C is a substantially heavier trigger pull than the 642. It's not as bad as some people make it out to be though, especially if you have a lot of DA revolver experience. For self defense distances it is not a concern for me. If you do get her one, definitely be sure she gets plenty of range time on it and brushes up once or twice a year. Thanks for watching!
It's not that it's DA, it's heavier due to being a rimfire.
I would go with the 351c with the new Hornady critical defense 45Gr FTX, that's good for carry in my opinion.
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Go with the .22 Magnum. Almost as powerful as a standard .38 Special, and most importantly, TWO MORE ROUNDS.
Two rounds is big jump in my opinion. Thanks for watching!
I have both guns , but I really like my 351c better because less recoil, and I tend to forget it’s on me
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Recoil on the 351 c is easier to control than on the 642 could be a factor for some people.
Agree 100%, Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!!
Split the difference and get a 32 H&R Mag with 6 shots. Seems optimal other than thw price of ammo
One is on my wish list!! thanks for watching!!
I don't want to throw a monkey wrench into this, but there is a 3rd J Frame that has to be considered.
The 340PD. I have a 442, 351C & the 340PD. Weight wise, it's the same as the 351C.
As you know, the trigger on the 351C is very stiff & it can't be fooled with, or misfires will happen.
No, I do NOT shoot 357's in the 340PD. Mine is loaded with Buffalo Bore Standard Pressure 110 grain 38spl
Barnes (all copper) bullet. Yes, it's even more expensive than the 351C, but for the weight
& bullet choice, I can justify the cost. All 3 are great guns
P.S. In my opinion, the MIKA pocket holster is the best there is.
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I d say whatever you can shoot the best should be the one :)
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The best gun for self-defense is - The. One. You. Have. With. You.
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Tough call.
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22 magnum has similar penetration as a 9mm. People don't realize the huge difference between long rifle and magnum.
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You tube videos show that out of a snub nose the difference is small.
I literally forget that my 38 airweight (model 637) is in my pocket. 38>22 all day….bigger, more capable bullet with better ignition.
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@@HillbillyMusings thanks for a good, though provoking video. Be safe out there.
Trigger pull is way to hard on the 351C
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Only drawback of the 351c is the trigger, which is horrible. I have a 442PC and K6S and they've spoiled me for revolvers. Having said that, a 351 is in my future.
Yep its a harsh trigger, but your 442 and K6S will be like butter after a session with the 351C :) Thanks for watching!!
351 is easy to carry and some will placed shots will protect you. PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE
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351c for me
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Definitely the 22mag. Lighter is better
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I have owned several 642s. They are nice guns but they're gone. My 351c isn't going anywhere.
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22 magnum isn't as powerful as a .38. There is no getting around that.
But 22 magnum is not a joke. It is NOT 22lr. If you load it with the right ammo, it is very effective with almost no recoil. You can get more power, but it comes at a cost of being harder to shoot. I think 22 mag is fine, to be honest. If I have a problem that cannot be solved with 7 rounds of 22 magnum, I have a problem which probably cannot be solved with any pistol.
You got that right on the .22 magnum, if 7 rounds ain't enough then you got a big problem. Thanks for watching!!
351C ALL DAY
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Either one wrks
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shot placement
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If you just want a "get off me" gun, either will bark loud enough to achieve that goal. Federal Punch in .22 Mag is no slouch of a round either. Plus you'll get 2 more rounds to help seal the deal. The only time I'm carrying a snubbie is as a backup gun. Then I will carry my On-duty Bulldog in .44 spl. If I'm just running to the store for milk or some other quick task, where I'm in sweats or shorts. My EDC is a Glock 19, and I've carried it nearly every day since August of 2000.
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Enhanced action 642 will have a far better trigger
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Meh, who wants a light trigger on a DA revolver, it is your only safety.
Easy to make shots at 40yds with the 351c too.
351C for moi…
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M&P 340
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642 all day. The 38 special +P is way more powerful than the 22 and there are many videos out there which prove this. Secondly the center fire round is more reliable than a rimfire round. Third the trigger; both suck when new but the 642 can get lighter springs and an action job and is much better after. With a 22 you can't do that, you're stuck with the heavy clunky trigger pull. Fourth is cost of ammo, 38 spcl and 22 Mag are both high. Only 22 lr is cheap. Fifth the weight difference is negligible. They are both very light guns. Sixth, the county sheriff in my county will not grant a CCW with any 22 caliber pistol. It has to be 32 or better. Thanks!
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I like revolvers, but the only way I would ever carry a snubby would be as a back up to my main carry. You should always prepare for the worse and hope for the best. A 5 shot revolver anything isn't preparing for the worse. I know about FBI statistics and rounds per typical shooting, Can you guarantee that's the kind of shooting you'll be involved in? You owe it to your loved ones who depend on you to protect them to carry something more substantial. Not trying to ruffle any feathers, that's just my two cents.
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I agree, but sometimes a quick run to the store and you want something, no need something you can drop into your jacket or hoodie pocket.
Rather have a .22 with 7-8shots on me than my 21rnd pistol at home.
very compact revolver for woman safety.
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While I love both guns and .22WMR is my all time #1 choice for bobcat, coyote, raccoon and grey fox, it is NOT my choice for human zombies. I’ll take the .38spl over a .22magnum anyway of the week. I’ve been carrying a j-frame .38spl as a backup gun now in law enforcement for 32 years and still going. .38 is much better than .22WMR
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My revolver broke after 26 shots, no return phone call after a month. I don't beleive or trust in s&w quality anymore.
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38 incase a pitbull or bear attack 😳🤣✌️🍺🇺🇸
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LOL, a .22lr pistol will deal with the pitbull.
.38 on a bear, might be better curling up like a ball. then shoot it in the balls with either caliber if it gets to rough.
5 shots of 38 may or may not stop a bear... i'd rather have a 9mm+p minimum at that point!
@@waholoopesorry74 yeh but its only fair to give the bear a chance 🤣✌️🇺🇸
351C, I'm liking it.
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351c! both are great though especially w those heavy waddcutters
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