@@ETANGSKATES i tried my homie's setep and did a couple of 5050 on a dry curb and sure as hell they really went! get some pairs and destroy it man! haha
@@ETANGSKATES they grind raw concrete lol. 😂 but turn like 💩 and I bent the axle with a Ollie off a curb. almost broke my arm. lol I also did the hardest trick I’ve ever done in my life on the same tensor mag lights. But I hated skating them. 😂 worst trucks best smooth grind really weird.
I've skated thunders the past 10 years and have never, ever had an issue. And I skated those hard. Brand loyalty is very much a thing in skateboarding.
@@CalebTaizanmy second pro grade trucks were thunders way back when I first started learning tricks and they work great and give a great feel I just think for grinding on concrete they grind down super fast. Also it’s all about person preference. Also inverted kingpins are super finicky so I wouldn’t fault thunder for that. Overall I’m not mad at thunder and understand they work great for a lot of skaters! Thanks for commenting y’all this is what I wanted discussion about it thunders!
Hey Etang I got a question about the inverted kingpins on Slappy and Indys, did the inverted kingpins ever get loose on you after all the abuse you put into them on either truck brands in the inverted kingpin versions? If not is it true that the issue with anyone having loose inverted kingpins with either inverted Slappy or Indy is that the inverted kingpins has to be tighten down pass the plastic nylon on the nut in the baseplate so it stays tight and won't become loose after extended use? Let me know thanks!
damn this got me thinking, i've been riding Slappy inverted hollows for few months now and riding pretty loose. not that i've noticed if the kingpins are loose or not but i certainly noticed the bushing washers rattles sometimes. i bet that is probably because the kingpins are not tightened to the plastic nylon bit. might check it later!
I’ve found most of the time I can just set my tightness and leave it and they don’t ever loosen too much. I’ve noticed I have to tighten my trucks every once and while with inverted kingpins vs standard kingpins but if you are having a problem with your trucks coming loose from abuse I would put some thread lock aka lock tight on the threads and nut to keep it from loosening. I’ve had the kingpins get loose especially on Indy mid baseplates. Slappy uses a regular locknut that seems to keep the tightness pretty well!
ive been riding the same thunders for a little over a year now (1-2x per week, avg 3 hours per time), but only on metal ledges/rails and pool coping. the back one is almost at the axle now. it all depends on what you grind
Hell yeah I was riding Indy’s for years and years also agree aces are great trucks! And no way so far so good just a bit flatter concave but the wood is great quality I’m amazed!
My front thunders have been crooked ground to the axle for more years than they have not been. Still skates fine to me so I’m not changing them till they fall off.
I should bring out this set and grind to axle on the crooked groove this set still skates perfectly fine. I feel like when they are axled that’s when you get the best grinds!!!!
this was the kind of kid our coach would tell the outfielders to move back when we were playing baseball. the kind of kid that you think your going to beat up and he breaks your jaw. once i saw him i said hes got this lol i was that kid before i hit about 17 or so and slimmed up. how long do other trucks last you?
@@MattDiGi yo Matt I love your videos !And I’ve been slowly but surely trying all the truck brands and grinding them to axle ! I think grinding Indy’s to the axle in one day would be most legendary thanks for inspiring!
I been skating since 2005 and slappys are THE best trucks I’ve ever skated hands down. Been skating them almost a year in 30 now so I only skate at the park 🤣
yeah i had this happen to me when i was like 15 and i just figured out how to front 50-50 properly on a curb. pretty sure it took me like a week and i was at axle on some regular thunders.
I've only ridden Slappy's and Thunders for the past year...my experience is the aluminum on a Thunder hanger feels harder / more dense, and for me personally (obviously not for you) they don't groove as fast. Aluminum on a Slappy however feels softer, so it grooves quick but there's just more of it above the axle (which also makes em heavier). Either way this was extremely entertaining so thank you. 😆
Silver trucks to this day have lasted me the longest, and is my go to pick, but i haven't tried any other brand in probably 8years (I'm 28 now and been skating since 8 (properly since 10))
I had thunders for the longest time, i went into furnace skate shop where they convinced me to get some og indys, heavy, told me by the time i upgraded to some indy lights ill be popping to the moon.
Im assuming ur running no top washer cuz the kingpin is short. i do the ishod bushing hack so i make it work. i got a bones hard top bushing and cup washer as my bottom n then a whatever top bushing on top. It was the same color so i just went with it
@@ETANGSKATESbro Venture Kill. Bro they are amazing. Not from transition per say. But definitely for tricks with ledges or manuals or gaps or drops. I only skate Ventures for street. Indy’s my daily driver, but been experimenting with ACE af1s. Trick to “ventures” buy the loose bushings they make. Or the “Loose Ventures” that come with those bushings standard.
What are the plastic rails on bottom of deck? Looks like they save the graphics from getting damaged(?) Wondering if they're considered uncool / sort of like training wheels(?)
Rails were usual until rhe early 90s. They slide faster than the deck and also give two points to support your balance while you slide instead of one with just the board. But it's all about personal preference. For some it's better and for some is worse.
I mean, when you’re taking them on concrete curbs all day, I can see any truck brand getting ground down to the axle. That’s the nature of curbs man. Grind rails?
Hit axle skating rails only !? yeah that would take years. You should make a video on that. Also you are kinda missing the point of the video I grind the trucks as fast as I can to see how durable the aluminum is and depending on how long they take that’s how I rate their longevity.
@@ETANGSKATESYou say in another comment that ventures give similar results. Other say similar stuff to other brands. Maybe it is just normal. It's easy to grind a metal piece down with a file and some effort in half an hour. I guess using the whole weight of our body on the trucks over concrete blocks gives just similar results. I guess the only way to make trucks more durable is by being made of heavier stuff. On a side note, trucks sometimes are more comfortable to grind once they hsve been wore down and shaped by grinds.
Try grinding the crunchiest concrete you can find hahha the more rough the spot the more it will take from your trucks also I think it helps I’m heavier lol
@@ETANGSKATES lol yeah the coping at my local is super smooth so that's prolly why. I'm a bit heavier close to 200 but it's like super smooth with lacquer and wax on it
You should try ace 55 classics next I have a set and I’m just starting to get grooves in them after just 3 1 hour long session so it’s definitely possible
@@ETANGSKATES Okay makes sense, I figured you could get it loose enough as long as you don't tighten them much, even with washers, but I've never ridden without the washers, so idk how different it'd feel! You tore through those trucks though haha
I just can’t flip my board right on thunders I do like the turn and grind maybe if I found the right wheelbase i could manage thunders but they are so weird feeling to me 😂I’ve skated too many Indy’s in my life
@@mattDnelson ye I get that, I mostly be doing flip tricks, and when I do grinds it’s not very skillfully, definitely no slappies, so I think I’m chilling for a couple month
I remember skating thunders in the 90s and the bushings would do that when tightned. They were virtually unskateable. I bailed a carlsbad gap ollie my truck hit the ledge at bottom and exploded 😂 Worst trucks ever
@@lloydchristmas1086 they are not the worst trucks when plastic Walmart trucks exist but coming from independents I was always slightly disappointed with their performance! Thanks for commenting!
Thunder, Venture etc are aluminium, softer material so it grinds kerbs easier but wears out quicker. Indys are steel, so heavier and don't grind as well on kerbs, but last a lot longer. If you just grind rails and coping the aluminium trucks last a long time, smooth rails are less abrasive. They could just make a truck with a grind plate made of harder material that would last longer than Indys.
They have changed something with the way they turn and grind they still remind me of how krux trucks feels in the turning department and I enjoy a surfyer truck over a stable truck I did like how they grinded but I don’t like how much they mess with the wheelbase!
You could axle indys in a day too if you do this lol I used to know so slap tards that should sit around and see who could ruin a pair of indys the fastest and a couple hours is all it would ever take i skate ventures or thunders and they often last me a year if i don’t purposely try and axle then skate other things besides curbs and ur trucks will last a long time lol
Thunders are meant for technical skating . Indy , ace, and slappy are for bowl skating . This is no shock, fools should know what thunders are designed to do lol.
Go skate in ur Emericas and don't watch it then. Obviously there is an educational aspect to these videos or people wouldn't be asking for them. Sorry you're jealous that you got no subs or views
@@avidfoodenjoyer5196 bro I got my own career, my own house , and life. Get the fuck outta here, ya broke ass. I could give 2 shits about subscriptions you fool. Grow up, you can’t even take a simple comment. Get the tampon out between your legs dawg lol.
@@cbass757 why you thinking about what's between my legs weirdo??? Don't dish it if you can't take it lmao. Idgaf if you got a house or a mansion. You gotta be pretty lonely and bored w your life to be out here hating just to hate. Maybe if you ditch the Emericas and have some steez you could have a wife too!
im out here on the same pair of indys like a year or two later feeling like a beta, this man lifting me from my depths
@@schadenfreudex don’t feel bad man most skaters skate their trucks for years!!! Hahaha thanks for commenting !
Same, although to be fair I live on an island in the middle of nowhere without even public transport, so I skate a lot of Flatground lol
Damn tensors would last you about 10 minutes
the mag lites, probably less. lol.
Hahaha I gotta get a pair to destroy 🤣 I heard they grind dry curbs but wear quickly. It would be comical to see how fast I could axel them
@@ETANGSKATES i tried my homie's setep and did a couple of 5050 on a dry curb and sure as hell they really went! get some pairs and destroy it man! haha
@@ETANGSKATES they grind raw concrete lol. 😂 but turn like 💩 and I bent the axle with a Ollie off a curb. almost broke my arm. lol
I also did the hardest trick I’ve ever done in my life on the same tensor mag lights. But I hated skating them. 😂 worst trucks best smooth grind really weird.
@@TRAVIESO_NA perfectly explains how tenors skate hahah
I've skated thunders the past 10 years and have never, ever had an issue. And I skated those hard. Brand loyalty is very much a thing in skateboarding.
Right thoes are what I started with and skated, for years and years.
@@CalebTaizanmy second pro grade trucks were thunders way back when I first started learning tricks and they work great and give a great feel I just think for grinding on concrete they grind down super fast. Also it’s all about person preference. Also inverted kingpins are super finicky so I wouldn’t fault thunder for that. Overall I’m not mad at thunder and understand they work great for a lot of skaters! Thanks for commenting y’all this is what I wanted discussion about it thunders!
I’m coming from skating independents for the past 10+ years so I just was comparing them to what I usually skated. Thanks for commenting! Great point!
Wow!!!!! Mind blown 🤯🫨
It's actually pretty cool that you pulled it off in 1 sesh.
Every time I try to hit axle in one sesh I amaze myself! The only trucks to put up a good fight was the ace af1s !
Hey Etang I got a question about the inverted kingpins on Slappy and Indys, did the inverted kingpins ever get loose on you after all the abuse you put into them on either truck brands in the inverted kingpin versions? If not is it true that the issue with anyone having loose inverted kingpins with either inverted Slappy or Indy is that the inverted kingpins has to be tighten down pass the plastic nylon on the nut in the baseplate so it stays tight and won't become loose after extended use? Let me know thanks!
damn this got me thinking, i've been riding Slappy inverted hollows for few months now and riding pretty loose. not that i've noticed if the kingpins are loose or not but i certainly noticed the bushing washers rattles sometimes. i bet that is probably because the kingpins are not tightened to the plastic nylon bit. might check it later!
I’ve found most of the time I can just set my tightness and leave it and they don’t ever loosen too much. I’ve noticed I have to tighten my trucks every once and while with inverted kingpins vs standard kingpins but if you are having a problem with your trucks coming loose from abuse I would put some thread lock aka lock tight on the threads and nut to keep it from loosening. I’ve had the kingpins get loose especially on Indy mid baseplates. Slappy uses a regular locknut that seems to keep the tightness pretty well!
Ive had the same thunder trucks for like 3 years😂
Etang going after all the truck companies 🤟🏾
What a sick spot
My fav curb!
ive been riding the same thunders for a little over a year now (1-2x per week, avg 3 hours per time), but only on metal ledges/rails and pool coping. the back one is almost at the axle now. it all depends on what you grind
I can’t tell if the TH-cam apps bugging or if it’s the editing but your brightness is insane why is this skate vlog flash banging me
Sick video! Indy is always my go-to but ace classics are second for me. Also, I just got that exact blood wizard board! Great deal from their site lol
Hell yeah I was riding Indy’s for years and years also agree aces are great trucks! And no way so far so good just a bit flatter concave but the wood is great quality I’m amazed!
My front thunders have been crooked ground to the axle for more years than they have not been. Still skates fine to me so I’m not changing them till they fall off.
I should bring out this set and grind to axle on the crooked groove this set still skates perfectly fine. I feel like when they are axled that’s when you get the best grinds!!!!
good video my friend!
Thanks mardi!!!! 💪 keep shredding
this was the kind of kid our coach would tell the outfielders to move back when we were playing baseball. the kind of kid that you think your going to beat up and he breaks your jaw. once i saw him i said hes got this lol i was that kid before i hit about 17 or so and slimmed up. how long do other trucks last you?
What does this mean 😭
@@avidfoodenjoyer5196 hes a big guy. big and strong
unfortunately, now you need to buy other brands and skate them to axle in as little time as possible.
@@MattDiGi yo Matt I love your videos !And I’ve been slowly but surely trying all the truck brands and grinding them to axle ! I think grinding Indy’s to the axle in one day would be most legendary thanks for inspiring!
Legend has it Tom Knox ground a pair of Indies to the axle in one day. The og Santa Cruz Tom Knox not the British krooked dude.
@ I plan to do independents! It’s the trucks of all trucks so I think it’s going to be quite a challenge!!!
I been skating since 2005 and slappys are THE best trucks I’ve ever skated hands down. Been skating them almost a year in 30 now so I only skate at the park 🤣
yeah i had this happen to me when i was like 15 and i just figured out how to front 50-50 properly on a curb. pretty sure it took me like a week and i was at axle on some regular thunders.
miss those curbs 😭
I miss you 😢
I've only ridden Slappy's and Thunders for the past year...my experience is the aluminum on a Thunder hanger feels harder / more dense, and for me personally (obviously not for you) they don't groove as fast. Aluminum on a Slappy however feels softer, so it grooves quick but there's just more of it above the axle (which also makes em heavier). Either way this was extremely entertaining so thank you. 😆
walk wit yo boys
WE MAKE IT LOOK EASY
the dlx soft aluminum conspracy... go!
I have heard of it……… haha
Damn, how long do your trucks usually last?
I’ve had the same pair of indies since I started and my trucks look like your at 3:40 😂. I’ve been skating since Covid
Loved this! Well done and great editing!
Silver trucks to this day have lasted me the longest, and is my go to pick, but i haven't tried any other brand in probably 8years (I'm 28 now and been skating since 8 (properly since 10))
if u ass like me and dont grind things ur trucks will last virtually 4ever!
I had thunders for the longest time, i went into furnace skate shop where they convinced me to get some og indys, heavy, told me by the time i upgraded to some indy lights ill be popping to the moon.
Haha good stuff Etang! I wonder if the thunder ceo has seen this video?😂
They don’t want to see this video🤣 also read these comments! Thanks for commenting !!!
Im assuming ur running no top washer cuz the kingpin is short. i do the ishod bushing hack so i make it work. i got a bones hard top bushing and cup washer as my bottom n then a whatever top bushing on top. It was the same color so i just went with it
subbed up homie, good content
@@schadenfreudex you’re the man!
Make this a series on different truck brands
Ventures next???? Sounds like a sick series I gotta do it!
Yes Ventures next and maybe Aces after!
@@ETANGSKATESbro Venture Kill. Bro they are amazing. Not from transition per say. But definitely for tricks with ledges or manuals or gaps or drops. I only skate Ventures for street. Indy’s my daily driver, but been experimenting with ACE af1s.
Trick to “ventures” buy the loose bushings they make. Or the “Loose Ventures” that come with those bushings standard.
@@TRAVIESO_NA I have skated ventures i definitely liked them! I wanna try the new v8 baseplate!!!
Longest short ever lol
speechless, no capping!!!
yo where u get the grip from the skateboard u were riding, it's sick
I had the same pair of indys for 3 years, just switched back to ace. I use a lot of wax tho
Try Royal trucks, everyone always says they're the worst trucks, so thats why i never tried them. Do a review on them please, would love to see that
Royals were great if you skated loose trucks. Smooth turns, nasty pinches. The bushings could deal with it all. They were on the heavy end tho
TRUCK OF THE GODS!!!!
How do you do those curb grinds like how do you get into it
You should skate the next ones til the axle snaps. Job ain’t done yet😂
I’m currently trying to break a set of slappy trucks right now! 8 months in and I’m halfway through the axle! I’ll make a video once they snap!
What are the plastic rails on bottom of deck?
Looks like they save the graphics from getting damaged(?)
Wondering if they're considered uncool / sort of like training wheels(?)
😂rails are for the most hardcore slappers
and bowl skaters but who cares bout them
Rails were usual until rhe early 90s. They slide faster than the deck and also give two points to support your balance while you slide instead of one with just the board. But it's all about personal preference. For some it's better and for some is worse.
I mean, when you’re taking them on concrete curbs all day, I can see any truck brand getting ground down to the axle.
That’s the nature of curbs man. Grind rails?
Hit axle skating rails only !? yeah that would take years. You should make a video on that. Also you are kinda missing the point of the video I grind the trucks as fast as I can to see how durable the aluminum is and depending on how long they take that’s how I rate their longevity.
@@ETANGSKATESYou say in another comment that ventures give similar results. Other say similar stuff to other brands. Maybe it is just normal.
It's easy to grind a metal piece down with a file and some effort in half an hour. I guess using the whole weight of our body on the trucks over concrete blocks gives just similar results.
I guess the only way to make trucks more durable is by being made of heavier stuff.
On a side note, trucks sometimes are more comfortable to grind once they hsve been wore down and shaped by grinds.
Here I am with my indies with barely a groove in them after grinding concrete coping all summer lmao.
Try grinding the crunchiest concrete you can find hahha the more rough the spot the more it will take from your trucks also I think it helps I’m heavier lol
@@ETANGSKATES lol yeah the coping at my local is super smooth so that's prolly why. I'm a bit heavier close to 200 but it's like super smooth with lacquer and wax on it
Next video Ida power slide till the wheels down and on bearings please do that vid ?
Yes!!!! That would be super fun! Challenge accepted! Thanks for the idea🔥🔥🔥🔥🤜🤛
You should try ace 55 classics next I have a set and I’m just starting to get grooves in them after just 3 1 hour long session so it’s definitely possible
My front truck only has a slight groove in my aces, been skating them for 4 years now.
@@Starclap92grind more and that won't be the case lmao
Cant go wrong with ventures
Check out my venture video! Similar results to the thunders! Thanks for watching!
lol grinding down perfectly good trucks to their axel without ever even doing an ollie
Going to need a hardness test on all trucks see what you find
Should’ve counted how many slappys you did lol I’m curious
@@JosaLaFlare next trucks I grind to axle I will count the grinds!! I have bullet trucks and ace classics on the list!
Got aces down to the axle in 1 granite curb session.
Nice but those aint thunder bushings i don't think
I saw those missing washers immediately. What the heck
lol why wouldn't you have washers on your bushings though? 😅
To make the trucks turn and feel more loose I can’t do slappys with too tight of trucks!
@@ETANGSKATES Okay makes sense, I figured you could get it loose enough as long as you don't tighten them much, even with washers, but I've never ridden without the washers, so idk how different it'd feel! You tore through those trucks though haha
@@ETANGSKATEShell yea tha way 2 do it
They grind best on the axles!
Seriously though!!!! It’s the best !
Now call me crazy... but I think the Slappys.... are the best for slappys
@@sethbryant7894 I think indys might be better……….. hahaha but slappys work great ! Thanks for commenting!
You should try to axel tensors
Peep my “tensor trucks video”
Pls do with tensor mags
I did!!!! Surprisingly they held up well! Check out my tensor magnesium video!
Try this with royals, I need to know!
I’m planning on it!!!!!! Subscribe so you don’t miss it!!!
@ETANGSKATES already subbed, dude!
Do Krux next lmao
🤔 the only thing is I hate how they turn🤣
@@ETANGSKATES same😂 I bet they axle super quick
@@jonahs697 I did krux❤! Check out the vid!
5:02 well that will happen if someone tries to make a inverted kingpin diy😂 not really the trucks fault
Facts! But I couldn’t fit a washer with the bushing so it was super annoying!
Try some ti-lites next
I love me some thunders. But they are not the go to for slappies. Indy’s, aces, and Slappy all have more meat on the top.
I just can’t flip my board right on thunders I do like the turn and grind maybe if I found the right wheelbase i could manage thunders but they are so weird feeling to me 😂I’ve skated too many Indy’s in my life
That’s not a video title I like to see 2 days after getting a fresh pair of thunders😂
@@GalaxyNewsRadio_ 😂😂😂glad this video is finally gaining some traction! Thanks watching I appreciate it!!!
a lot of factors go into this though, if you don’t skate bowls, street curbs/ledges, then your trucks won’t axle this quickly
@@mattDnelson ye I get that, I mostly be doing flip tricks, and when I do grinds it’s not very skillfully, definitely no slappies, so I think I’m chilling for a couple month
Yeah I was kinda shocked how fast I axle my thunders . Also hated the bushings .
@@thakid691 glad to know I’m not the only one! Thanks for commenting!
Test some gullwing 3’s
Ride the best fk the rest? Lol always hated thunders. Sick vid
Try to oillie as high as you can into your grinds on curbs no trucks can take no matter make😢
Park skaters like thunder cause metal barely grooves but concrete eats that shit
crazyyyy
venture gang
MORTUARY!!!!!!
Freakin’ bushing -__-
chat is this the world record?
do it on film trucks
That would be sick!
Indy's are elite compared to Thunders imo
You get a lot more for your money with Indy’s! Ol reliable for sure
I have fake Indy trucks from China that last longer then these did 😂😂😂
combo at 6:40 was beast mode
Willy to 5050 nbd accidental beast mode🤩
I remember skating thunders in the 90s and the bushings would do that when tightned. They were virtually unskateable. I bailed a carlsbad gap ollie my truck hit the ledge at bottom and exploded 😂 Worst trucks ever
@@lloydchristmas1086 they are not the worst trucks when plastic Walmart trucks exist but coming from independents I was always slightly disappointed with their performance! Thanks for commenting!
Thunder, Venture etc are aluminium, softer material so it grinds kerbs easier but wears out quicker. Indys are steel, so heavier and don't grind as well on kerbs, but last a lot longer. If you just grind rails and coping the aluminium trucks last a long time, smooth rails are less abrasive. They could just make a truck with a grind plate made of harder material that would last longer than Indys.
what about waxxing the curb 🤣
Spoken like someone who hasn’t slappy slapped a red curb
Those were some long slappys for no wax bud
who doesn't run a fucking top washer, man? That's just setting yourself up for failure here.
I can't stand Thunder after the T4.
They have changed something with the way they turn and grind they still remind me of how krux trucks feels in the turning department and I enjoy a surfyer truck over a stable truck I did like how they grinded but I don’t like how much they mess with the wheelbase!
I hate thunder trucks they break too damm fast
All personal preference Tom asta seems to skate his thunders for years but for me yeah they break too damn fast!
You could axle indys in a day too if you do this lol I used to know so slap tards that should sit around and see who could ruin a pair of indys the fastest and a couple hours is all it would ever take i skate ventures or thunders and they often last me a year if i don’t purposely try and axle then skate other things besides curbs and ur trucks will last a long time lol
Thunders 🚫 blunders ✅
😂
Lurpiv FTW!
🤦🏾♂️ ... some ppl r stupid.
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@@18JR78 🤘💪
you look like harry potter’s cousin
@@charcuteri 😂
Thunders are meant for technical skating . Indy , ace, and slappy are for bowl skating . This is no shock, fools should know what thunders are designed to do lol.
Go skate in ur Emericas and don't watch it then. Obviously there is an educational aspect to these videos or people wouldn't be asking for them. Sorry you're jealous that you got no subs or views
@@avidfoodenjoyer5196 bro I got my own career, my own house , and life. Get the fuck outta here, ya broke ass. I could give 2 shits about subscriptions you fool. Grow up, you can’t even take a simple comment. Get the tampon out between your legs dawg lol.
@@cbass757 why you thinking about what's between my legs weirdo??? Don't dish it if you can't take it lmao. Idgaf if you got a house or a mansion. You gotta be pretty lonely and bored w your life to be out here hating just to hate. Maybe if you ditch the Emericas and have some steez you could have a wife too!
I respect all skating but bro be real, your a curb skater…
@@kairach8546 I excel in curbs but I skateboard a bit of everything. You are a hater sir.
Freakin’ bushing -__-