Having the earbuds case being able to plug into any headphone jack and then use that to transmit a wireless signal is a really cool feature that I think all wireless earbuds should have. Sometimes you want to use these with a device that doesn't support Bluetooth.
On price: Most people seem super shocked. For reference these are positioned to compete with other premium true wireless earbuds like the Sennheiser Momentum True Wireless 3, Sony WF XM4, Galaxy Buds Pro 2, etc. which are all listed at a similar price. The price point is due to packing so much tech into such a tiny package. When you take into account how these have most features those other brands do PLUS low latency (they don't) PLUS dual stream mixing, it's a totally legit price point. If you want buds under $100 that have the low latency and can connect 2 devices at once (but not mix them), check out the new Soundcore P10 buds. Fair warning though: the P10s sound like cardboard compared to Waveform, and lack some of the nice features like ANC and wireless charging case.
$250 dollars can almost buy a whole switch! I wouldn't be investing that much into earbuds unless it was over the ear headphones and a heavy audiophile.
I like what I’m hearing about the features for these ear buds, but that price point is atrocious! Edit: If it was half the price then I would consider these, but there’s no way I would pay $250 for a set of ear buds.
I bought a set of these on Kickstarter, and I forgot that the price offered there wasn't the actual price. IMO, they're good *sounding* earphones, and they do have some cool features... at $199. But at $249... I wouldn't buy them. My biggest gripe is that you cannot customize the gestures on the earphones, which means I get frustrated every time I switch between those and my AirPod Pros. It's like switching between a Switch and a PS5 and realizing the confirm button is in a different place all the time. That said, I traveled recently and used the PS5 remote play app on my iPad and a PS5 controller. I used the USB-C out to the case and, man, it worked great.
Yes! We need more dongle based ear buds! I had to get a headset because the pickings are so slim as I want the low latency. Was concerned that you didn’t include the PC as a option for the direct connect mode, only Bluetooth, so that is unfortunate for these.
I have seen other earbuds that do this multi connect thing like the soundcore VR P10 that pretty much does the same thing even though they were kind of made with the quest 2 in mind it would work on a switch or PS5 and its also only $100 even though these earbuds are cool $250 is kind of a bit much for that when you can get a bit cheaper option and it might even have more features
Never heard of these before, but that pass through dongle will also work much better in handheld. Just needs a USB A to USB C adapter for docked play. The case also looks a little bigger, but there's no question it's much better value for the price. In fact, I would probably still choose the Soundcore over the Genki even if they were the same price.
FWIW, I have both. Soundcore P10 is a GREAT value, and the UX is very smooth and streamlined. But the sound quality DOES NOT COMPARE. P10 sounds hollow and cardboardy compared to the Genki Waveform. Other things you get with Waveform: - Wireless charging case - ANC and transparency mode - Dual-source MIXING. P10, in my experience, can connect to two sources but only plays one at a time
@@ReavoEnd the one at a time audio is really disappointing. Have you used it for voice chat from another source and in game audio at the same time? Cause it doesn't sound like that would be a great experience if it alternates the audio sources.
@@DizzyDiddy Yeah, sadly I couldn't use it in that scenario because it would mute the game audio entirely until the voice chat ended. Oh and, to comment on what you said about case size: P10 case size is smaller in most dimensions.
The dual connection if I'm understanding it right could be a huge benefit. Bluetooth audio on PC and mobile goes to crap for me when trying to hear audio (like listening to music) and use the call audio/microphone at the same time. I think I remember reading it was a bandwidth issue, but if this can overcome that limitation, I could see myself seriously considering these. That said, I'd mostly use them for better audio quality when on the treadmill and playing with the Switch docked on the TV, but if it can also fix PC and Phone issues, then that would be awesome!
another really good set of headphones are the steelseries arctis 3 wireless. they are so good as well. you can connect bluetooth to the phone and AUX to the switch. its great
Do you recommend these for Xbox series s and ps4 too? Don’t know much about this stuff but just trying to down size to one universal pair
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Do you notice if there's zero latency when using this earbud? I just can't play Super Smash Bros with a wireless earbud because the (even small) latency bothers me a lot 😕
With its lower latency, is it fighting game friendly? Not necessarily at the esports level but does it perform better than apple airpods connected to the switch?
i would say that the soundcore p10 do everything these buds do better and for cheaper. the primary use case for buds is for on the go and the soundcore has a much smaller usbc dongle that fits in the case for low latency audio. also they're literally 70 bucks...
are there any cheaper options for tws that also does the dual audio thing? not talking about the multipoint thing where it will mute game audio to take a call.
Someone mentioned it in another comment, but the Soundcore VR P10 does it too and is overall probably a better option for only $99. You would need to get an additional dongle if you wanted to use dual audio in docked mode. Something that converts USB A to USB C. Those are very cheap and shouldn't be hard to come by though. The old Genki adapter had one too.
Do any more affordable alternatives to these exist yet? I've had little luck searching for any, so I suppose Genki has the market cornered here for now? The main function I'm after is the multistream feature. I imagine eventually we'll see some cheaper knockoffs pop up, and on my budget I'd have to consider those first.
Got me some JBL Bluetooth headphones that do the job. The only thing is the headphones aren't comfortable when laying down in a bed. Might have to look for another brand that has different earpiece sizes for under $100.
Question, does anyone know why my airpods pro are closed yet they connect to my Switch at random times despite being closed? Do these earbuds do that as well??
I was on board all the way until the price came up. $250 seems very high for me. But my perception on the matter is somewhat skewed. I have a higher than normal interest in headphones, and own multiple sets of proper over ear headphones. However, using them in modern life with the cable and USB C adapters and/or external DAC and amps is not ideal, and I concede that true wireless earbuds are simply better for most people. That being said, I do own a pair of earbuds and I have tried and looked at the specs on some others. My conclusion is that unless you go for something that is properly customizable to really get a proper fit on your ear, or with something on the very highend of earbuds, every single option on the earbud market are just *meh*. $250 for these just doesn't seem worth it. Specially since, if you have an iPhone, you should really go for the AirPods just for the ease of use alone. If you have an Android, you probably should just get whatever is the most comfortable to you. And if you are like me, you should probably never use your earbuds, decide that they suck, and go for bluetooh overear headphones for the same price, like the Boss QC45. They are less portable, but at least don't sound awful and get uncomfortable easily.
These headphones work really well in theory but they're pretty abysmal in practice: 1) Maybe it's my ears, but i've never been able to get a decent seal in my ears with any of the tips because of the way the buds are shaped. they simply do not work and i get sound in my ears all the time 1a) because of this, i'm constantly pushing higher volume into my ear to hear anything, which we already know is bad for your health. 2) Mose importantly, when you plug the headset into a USB source, the microphone switches to a microphone on the case, which completely defeats the purpose because you have to be within a foot of the case mic to sound audible (which is the best it gets) so you can't just play coop on your couch, the console and therefore the case is too far away. 3) The support is inexistent because the operation is so lean. the app for this thing is janky and they're slow to respond. it's a decent first try, bring these down to sub $200 and you might have a ringer for good eabuds for the price, but it's not that great.
I was like tell me more through out the whole video... until that price point was said at the end... XD Still pretty nice ear buds with a nice focus on the switch. Just too expensive man!
You lost me at $250, I have a pair of JLab Rewinds that cost me all of $10 on sale, that can do dual connect. 🤦♂ It really should be a standard on all bluetooth earbuds/headphones at this point.
Switch Lite: $199 Regular Nintendo Switch: $299 Standard OLED: $349 for the better screen but still a Switch with a draining battery This fancy unnecessary wireless headphone: $249.99 Logitech wireless earbuds: $229.99 Turtle Beach wireless earbuds now on sale: $49.99
Does anybody know if there are headphone options that allow dual sources to play like these earbuds? That would be great to use with my ps5 while chatting on discord.
Idk if anyone as actually seen the price for the earphone but thats the exact price of a switch lite why would i buy thats way too expensive, it all these cool features but I don’t think its worth that amount of money for the switch
Looks no different to like 90% of other cases in this price range. Given that the case also holds a second receiver in it, which most cases don't have to worry about
They should. You don't need the special dual audio feature for that though. If you would only use these for in game voice chat in Fortnite you really don't need the dual audio feature unless you also want to listen to audio from another source at the same time (i.e. listen to music on your phone while still getting audio on the Switch).
Got these through the Kickstarter. Wouldn't recommend them. There's a bunch of complaints that the right ear bud fails. In my case, whenever it went into my ear, the volume significantly decreased. Doesn't happen with any other ear bud.
@@VELI-Productions got this from another comment, but check out the Soundcore VR P10. They have dual audio and a dongle that would work in handheld. And they're only $99. But you would need another dongle for dual audio in docked mode.
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The biggest thing I got from this video is that Kevin does indeed have ears. Confirmed.
Yeah! Something I never even thought about but now that you point is out I can’t stop thinking about it 😂
I scared he would put it over the beanie like he did with overear headphones before
You know what they say about guys with big ears...🤔
@@Kikobirdification they can hear you sleep?🧐
@@ghost-type Hahaha!
Having the earbuds case being able to plug into any headphone jack and then use that to transmit a wireless signal is a really cool feature that I think all wireless earbuds should have. Sometimes you want to use these with a device that doesn't support Bluetooth.
On price: Most people seem super shocked. For reference these are positioned to compete with other premium true wireless earbuds like the Sennheiser Momentum True Wireless 3, Sony WF XM4, Galaxy Buds Pro 2, etc. which are all listed at a similar price. The price point is due to packing so much tech into such a tiny package. When you take into account how these have most features those other brands do PLUS low latency (they don't) PLUS dual stream mixing, it's a totally legit price point.
If you want buds under $100 that have the low latency and can connect 2 devices at once (but not mix them), check out the new Soundcore P10 buds. Fair warning though: the P10s sound like cardboard compared to Waveform, and lack some of the nice features like ANC and wireless charging case.
$250 dollars can almost buy a whole switch! I wouldn't be investing that much into earbuds unless it was over the ear headphones and a heavy audiophile.
250 dollars is nothing in the audiophile world.
Yeah I'll pass on $250 earbuds for my switch
Dude you deserve so much more attention on YT I love your reviews and really helps me deciding if i want to buy something
The case looks like a Vaseline container. But it's cool to see it can double as a transmitter/dongle
I like what I’m hearing about the features for these ear buds, but that price point is atrocious!
Edit: If it was half the price then I would consider these, but there’s no way I would pay $250 for a set of ear buds.
I bought a set of these on Kickstarter, and I forgot that the price offered there wasn't the actual price. IMO, they're good *sounding* earphones, and they do have some cool features... at $199. But at $249... I wouldn't buy them. My biggest gripe is that you cannot customize the gestures on the earphones, which means I get frustrated every time I switch between those and my AirPod Pros. It's like switching between a Switch and a PS5 and realizing the confirm button is in a different place all the time. That said, I traveled recently and used the PS5 remote play app on my iPad and a PS5 controller. I used the USB-C out to the case and, man, it worked great.
Yes! We need more dongle based ear buds! I had to get a headset because the pickings are so slim as I want the low latency. Was concerned that you didn’t include the PC as a option for the direct connect mode, only Bluetooth, so that is unfortunate for these.
Only ones that I’ve seen are the epos earbuds. They have a usb c input as a dongle. I think they are like 200 dollars though.
Got this from another comment here, but the Soundcore VR P10 earbuds also look really promising for only $99. They have a USB C dongle too.
I have seen other earbuds that do this multi connect thing like the soundcore VR P10 that pretty much does the same thing even though they were kind of made with the quest 2 in mind it would work on a switch or PS5 and its also only $100 even though these earbuds are cool $250 is kind of a bit much for that when you can get a bit cheaper option and it might even have more features
Yeah especially from a non audio focused brand like genki
Never heard of these before, but that pass through dongle will also work much better in handheld. Just needs a USB A to USB C adapter for docked play. The case also looks a little bigger, but there's no question it's much better value for the price. In fact, I would probably still choose the Soundcore over the Genki even if they were the same price.
FWIW, I have both. Soundcore P10 is a GREAT value, and the UX is very smooth and streamlined. But the sound quality DOES NOT COMPARE. P10 sounds hollow and cardboardy compared to the Genki Waveform. Other things you get with Waveform:
- Wireless charging case
- ANC and transparency mode
- Dual-source MIXING. P10, in my experience, can connect to two sources but only plays one at a time
@@ReavoEnd the one at a time audio is really disappointing. Have you used it for voice chat from another source and in game audio at the same time? Cause it doesn't sound like that would be a great experience if it alternates the audio sources.
@@DizzyDiddy Yeah, sadly I couldn't use it in that scenario because it would mute the game audio entirely until the voice chat ended.
Oh and, to comment on what you said about case size: P10 case size is smaller in most dimensions.
I love these for dual stream feature.
The dual connection if I'm understanding it right could be a huge benefit. Bluetooth audio on PC and mobile goes to crap for me when trying to hear audio (like listening to music) and use the call audio/microphone at the same time. I think I remember reading it was a bandwidth issue, but if this can overcome that limitation, I could see myself seriously considering these.
That said, I'd mostly use them for better audio quality when on the treadmill and playing with the Switch docked on the TV, but if it can also fix PC and Phone issues, then that would be awesome!
another really good set of headphones are the steelseries arctis 3 wireless. they are so good as well. you can connect bluetooth to the phone and AUX to the switch. its great
I do wish they has a more switch looking aesthetic to differentiate them looks wise from any other earphones
Do you recommend these for Xbox series s and ps4 too? Don’t know much about this stuff but just trying to down size to one universal pair
Do you notice if there's zero latency when using this earbud? I just can't play Super Smash Bros with a wireless earbud because the (even small) latency bothers me a lot 😕
With its lower latency, is it fighting game friendly? Not necessarily at the esports level but does it perform better than apple airpods connected to the switch?
i would say that the soundcore p10 do everything these buds do better and for cheaper. the primary use case for buds is for on the go and the soundcore has a much smaller usbc dongle that fits in the case for low latency audio. also they're literally 70 bucks...
I had no idea double stream earbuds existed (I'm not tech saavy), this is gonna be an awesome christmas treat!
Kermit's evil doppelgänger, Constantine just chilling in the background and no one's talking about it...
are there any cheaper options for tws that also does the dual audio thing? not talking about the multipoint thing where it will mute game audio to take a call.
Someone mentioned it in another comment, but the Soundcore VR P10 does it too and is overall probably a better option for only $99. You would need to get an additional dongle if you wanted to use dual audio in docked mode. Something that converts USB A to USB C. Those are very cheap and shouldn't be hard to come by though. The old Genki adapter had one too.
0:48 Still pondering one of life’s greatest mysteries…
What in the world is under that beanie?!
Picture's on Twitter, but, I'm not gonna link it
The truth? Nuclear launch codes were tattooed onto his head. He's the living key to preventing a nuclear winter.
I bought these back when they had the early bird special on Kickstarter.
250 for headphones. Paid 299 for the OLED itself for my son 😒. I'll keep shopping around
Price is outrageous. What were they thinking
GREAT!!!! I LIKE THEM. I THINK OF BUYING SOME.
$250 for these is absolutely too much, 150 is somewhat reasonable. To put this into perspective, brand new AirPods pros are the same price.
Which I already have a pair and work with my switch.
Do any more affordable alternatives to these exist yet? I've had little luck searching for any, so I suppose Genki has the market cornered here for now? The main function I'm after is the multistream feature. I imagine eventually we'll see some cheaper knockoffs pop up, and on my budget I'd have to consider those first.
Got me some JBL Bluetooth headphones that do the job. The only thing is the headphones aren't comfortable when laying down in a bed. Might have to look for another brand that has different earpiece sizes for under $100.
My question: do these or any other Bluetooth ear buds support mic/voice chat for the switch?
I tried Skullcandy Sesh Evo for switch, and they had very bad sound delay so i returned them
I forgot about this Bennie guy bored left but still now I know he who he is again
These actually look awesome lol
is there still a delay using the Nintendo switch Bluetooth?
Question, does anyone know why my airpods pro are closed yet they connect to my Switch at random times despite being closed? Do these earbuds do that as well??
I was on board all the way until the price came up. $250 seems very high for me.
But my perception on the matter is somewhat skewed. I have a higher than normal interest in headphones, and own multiple sets of proper over ear headphones. However, using them in modern life with the cable and USB C adapters and/or external DAC and amps is not ideal, and I concede that true wireless earbuds are simply better for most people.
That being said, I do own a pair of earbuds and I have tried and looked at the specs on some others. My conclusion is that unless you go for something that is properly customizable to really get a proper fit on your ear, or with something on the very highend of earbuds, every single option on the earbud market are just *meh*.
$250 for these just doesn't seem worth it. Specially since, if you have an iPhone, you should really go for the AirPods just for the ease of use alone. If you have an Android, you probably should just get whatever is the most comfortable to you.
And if you are like me, you should probably never use your earbuds, decide that they suck, and go for bluetooh overear headphones for the same price, like the Boss QC45. They are less portable, but at least don't sound awful and get uncomfortable easily.
My brother bought Airpods and paid $100 for them but they die quickly. He could have easily gotten cheaper Bluetooth headphones for under $100.
Will these work with the Switch Lite ?
yes, the nintendo switch lite has the same things from a normal switch inside of it, so it’ll work
I'm good with my pixel buds pro they were on sale for $150 and work just as good on switch
These headphones work really well in theory but they're pretty abysmal in practice:
1) Maybe it's my ears, but i've never been able to get a decent seal in my ears with any of the tips because of the way the buds are shaped. they simply do not work and i get sound in my ears all the time
1a) because of this, i'm constantly pushing higher volume into my ear to hear anything, which we already know is bad for your health.
2) Mose importantly, when you plug the headset into a USB source, the microphone switches to a microphone on the case, which completely defeats the purpose because you have to be within a foot of the case mic to sound audible (which is the best it gets) so you can't just play coop on your couch, the console and therefore the case is too far away.
3) The support is inexistent because the operation is so lean. the app for this thing is janky and they're slow to respond.
it's a decent first try, bring these down to sub $200 and you might have a ringer for good eabuds for the price, but it's not that great.
Hey would headphone would you recommend for the switch under 100
do these work with steamdeck while connected to your phone?
$249? OUCH!!!
Do these earphones support chat on nintendo switch like for fortnite?
Wait so am I gonna be able to use these earbuds while also using like, the 8bitdo Bluetooth controller at the same time?
Good question
I have my Power Beats Pro earbuds paired with my Switch. I also have AirPods 2 but not connected.
Wait, how do these work with the Xbox Series consoles?
No mention on the mic quality. Missed opportunity
So it cant dual Bluetooth to two devices?
I was like tell me more through out the whole video... until that price point was said at the end... XD Still pretty nice ear buds with a nice focus on the switch. Just too expensive man!
They look cool but crazy expensive
You lost me at $250, I have a pair of JLab Rewinds that cost me all of $10 on sale, that can do dual connect. 🤦♂ It really should be a standard on all bluetooth earbuds/headphones at this point.
I was gonna cop'em but not for the price of another switch lol
I cannot get these to fit in my ears for long. Any tip replacement suggestions?
Memory foam!
@@Yohruu the memory foam ones it came with don't stop it too much.
Ive been using tozo's G1 earbuds on my switch.
Switch Lite: $199
Regular Nintendo Switch: $299 Standard
OLED: $349 for the better screen but still a Switch with a draining battery
This fancy unnecessary wireless headphone: $249.99
Logitech wireless earbuds: $229.99
Turtle Beach wireless earbuds now on sale: $49.99
Does anybody know if there are headphone options that allow dual sources to play like these earbuds? That would be great to use with my ps5 while chatting on discord.
If you have an aff link its sponsored lol
I love my much cheaper Klipsch T5 II. These seem very expensive.
This is the best video I ever saw on TH-cam
Playstation 5 headset works perfect for me.
@Kevinkenson1 foh weirdo
Idk if anyone as actually seen the price for the earphone but thats the exact price of a switch lite why would i buy thats way too expensive, it all these cool features but I don’t think its worth that amount of money for the switch
Can Nintendo Switch use Bluetooth?
Yes. There was an update a while back.
That case is horrendous.
It looks fine honestly
@@oo--7714 for the price of it? No way.
Looks no different to like 90% of other cases in this price range. Given that the case also holds a second receiver in it, which most cases don't have to worry about
nice video
Steam deck #1
I just want to use my AirPods with switch
>$250
Ahahahahaa hell no.
Stop trying to greentext.
also turkey Tom? pukes
@@oo--7714
>Greentext on TH-cam
>Triggers bystander
>???
>Profit
I don't think I will
Do these work with fortnite and it's voice chat?
They should. You don't need the special dual audio feature for that though. If you would only use these for in game voice chat in Fortnite you really don't need the dual audio feature unless you also want to listen to audio from another source at the same time (i.e. listen to music on your phone while still getting audio on the Switch).
@@DizzyDiddy The problem is that bluetooth is only audio enabled, I do not think the microphone works via bluetooth.
@@mikelujanable interesting. Yeah, that complicates things if so.
This looks like a rebrand. I've seen earplugs and a case that look almost the same before.
249$ USD!
Got these through the Kickstarter. Wouldn't recommend them. There's a bunch of complaints that the right ear bud fails. In my case, whenever it went into my ear, the volume significantly decreased. Doesn't happen with any other ear bud.
@Kevinkenson1 It may be all of the scamming Telegram posts, but for some reason I don't believe you.
jesus that price. there are much better headsets for less that has dual audio. particularly the arctis 9 and nova 7
Yeah but those are headsets, not ear buds. I’m only saying this because if you know of other earbuds at a lower price I would be interested.
@@VELI-Productionsi think hyperx made one a while ago but i believe its out of stock. and it only has 3 stars in amazon
@@VELI-Productions got this from another comment, but check out the Soundcore VR P10. They have dual audio and a dongle that would work in handheld. And they're only $99. But you would need another dongle for dual audio in docked mode.
250$ hell nah
Stopped watching at the price point. 249 us dollars is NOT worth it. Hard pass
Ya, just by looking at these, I can say these are neither light weight nor comfy. The case is way too big to carry around in a pocket.
The headphones are 250.00
The mic sucketh 😂 you should of done a mic test so people can hear how bad you sound to your friends on discord.
Kevin has ears?
So I can play Fortnite and chat to my friends?
$250 lol
€250 hahahaha. No!
First 😂😂😂😂😂
The blackshark t2 bluetooth gaming earbuds are way better for gaming with low latency and led indicators on the buds and on the case
My Xm4’s say lol! 😂