Used to have a single net shrimp trawler. Picked up artifacts in our net there a lot. Many parts of cannon balls and one whole one. BTW Black Beard supposedly buried treasure on Morris Island as well. ;D
Gosh truly so amazing to finally see a video of were the actual Fort Wagner once existed with all those brave union men charging down the stretch of sand.
Thanks for posting. Really enjoyed this. I had a scotch and a J and got to thinking about the 54th Mass. unit. Its hard to fathom the enormity of it all via google earth. To see it like this really brings it into perspective.
Actually the headgear you've got there is referred to as a forage cap. The kepi is a different pattern; it is a more rigid cap with a sunken crown, as opposed to the flat crown of your forage cap. Nice video, Wade!
Awesome and insanely cool. Looking to do that too. Any memorial of where Gould Shaw and the 54th were buried, marking. Or all remnants have already eroded ?
None whatsoever. Wagner stood beyond the modern jetties on Morris Island in the Atlantic ocean. So Wagner, Shaw, and the 54th are underwater. No markers on the island. I went by GPS and period maps to pin point the approximate area.
@@AlamoSentryThey really should memorialize it with something at the very least. Also, there is no access other than by boat for hire or ren a boat yourself ? The best probably would be to hire a boat, cpt/tour guide. But looking to see the best eay to get there. Thanks again !
Sometimes I feel like I’m the only person who has a passion for learning about the American Civil War. My friends don’t get it. I’ve even driven 600 miles one way by myself to see a battlefield. I love your hat. (Kepi) I hope your interest in the topic still remains. I see the video is 2 yrs old. Great video 👍🏼
There are CW buffs all over the country. You've just gotta look. ;) And thank you. Wagner has had held my interest my entire life. I am glad you enjoyed the video!
Probably won't see this but check in your area if there is a Civil War Roundtable. I have one here unfortunately they only meet once a month during the week in the evenings and I work 2nd shift so can never attend unless I take a day off. There are history buffs of all kinds around but it is difficult to find them if you don't make an effort to look. Like you I feel like I'm the only one imn the world with an interest in History but that is only because Im around the morons I work with 40-50 hours a week.
The Cadet Battery of The Citadel, that fired on the Star of the West on 9 January 1861, was a couple of hundred yards nrth of battery Wagner's position.
I saw a map that showed where battery wagner was and the assault happened on the southeast side. The map showed where the shore line in 1860s and in 2008 if its right a good chunk of the south east side is visible and walkable. Most is probably under water but Like you said so many hurricanes but they found burial site on folly island of 55th mass. During the fighting there was two creeks that ran close by its all one now.
I'd be interested to see what map you're referring to. I went by original maps, work down by The American Civil War Battlefield Trust, and Satellite images.
The entire fort is underwater. I imagine if there was anything left over after 155 years, it might only be certain land features. Otherwise, it was a very low lying beach. The tide going up all the way to the dunes.
No. There probably were some friendly fire casualties, but most were a result of Confederate infantry and artillery fire from Battery Wagner. The ground in front of the works was flanked by marsh to the west and the ocean to the east, so that only one regiment at a time could attack. There was no cover to speak of for the Yankees to use; the Confederates could hardly miss.
Hey man, I created a couple of short films on my channel about the battle of fort wagner using Napoleon Total War. Great shots, I hope I can make it out there some day.
The US army actually came back after the war and dug up the bodies including Shaws, and moved them to cemeteries. Shaw has a grave and tombstone in Beauford SC.
I know some of the bodies were recovered. I visited that gravesite over a decade ago. But it was at the request of his father that Shaw's body remained with his men where he died. I believe he is still there.
Chartered a local boat captain. The island is accessible from the harbor. There were families hanging out and sun bathing at the edge of the island when we departed.
@@mgk22 Depends! The fella I went with asked for around $300. To and from the island is about a 30 minute to an hour boat ride from the harbor due to boat speeds and such.
@@thegreatgambino5079 Ya. Hurricanes have reduced Morris Island by atleast 50% when you compared CW maps to satellite images. It is a very low-lying island.
It's too bad the site is gone - I guess no matter what could have been done the effects of wind and sea on a sand, earth and timber structure would be almost impossible to save. I wonder about Fort Fisher at Wilmington, NC. At least it was destroyed by nature and not greedy developers.
The Fort spanned the whole widthe of Morris Island. The moie shows the 54th attacking from the north.....water at their left.....while i think it actually attacked from the south, where the water would be on the right. Maybe logistics and permissions had something to do with it.
I saw a map that showed the assault on battery wagner and the assault started on south east side of fort. The map also showed where shore line was in 2008 and if thats right a good chunk of land that had that assault is visible.
I am kinda shocked that morris island isnt a national park being how there is history there i mean there was three or two big battles there during the amarican civil war
@@ajbaumgart4774 Parts of the island are protected by the American Civil War Battlefield Trust. The rest is privately owned and also used for dredging spoil.
@@AlamoSentry thank you wasn't sure if it was but i know now I'm just glad some area's are we should treat that place respectfully for those on both sides who have died we should never distroy or disturb historical area's but thats me cause I'm a big history buff have a great evening
Shaw's body was never recovered. His burial is documented by Confederate sources. Shaw's father went on to say “We can imagine no holier place than that in which he lies,” he wrote, “among his brave and devoted followers, nor wish for him better company-what a body-guard he has!”
I wanna be there too someday!!!
Glory Col Robert Shaw and the 54th Regiment!!
Used to have a single net shrimp trawler. Picked up artifacts in our net there a lot. Many parts of cannon balls and one whole one.
BTW Black Beard supposedly buried treasure on Morris Island as well. ;D
Gosh truly so amazing to finally see a video of were the actual Fort Wagner once existed with all those brave union men charging down the stretch of sand.
Right!
The fort was never taken the confederates abandoned it.
@@mikemartin9751they still lost it
After seeing the movie GLORY I always wanted to go there. Great to see your passion for the battle.
Glory is available in 4k Dolby Atmos sound. Never looked better.
Thanks for posting. Really enjoyed this. I had a scotch and a J and got to thinking about the 54th Mass. unit. Its hard to fathom the enormity of it all via google earth. To see it like this really brings it into perspective.
@@mikeercole2800 I'm glad you enjoyed it. Since our visit in 2018, it still feels surreal.
Actually the headgear you've got there is referred to as a forage cap. The kepi is a different pattern; it is a more rigid cap with a sunken crown, as opposed to the flat crown of your forage cap. Nice video, Wade!
My G. grandfather, William G Mcfarlin served in the 32nd Georgia Volunteer Infantry in Battery Wagner.
Respect. My GB grand father was in the PA 103rd regiment but was they were not part of this engagement.
Awesome and insanely cool. Looking to do that too.
Any memorial of where Gould Shaw and the 54th were buried, marking. Or all remnants have already eroded ?
None whatsoever. Wagner stood beyond the modern jetties on Morris Island in the Atlantic ocean. So Wagner, Shaw, and the 54th are underwater. No markers on the island. I went by GPS and period maps to pin point the approximate area.
@@AlamoSentryThey really should memorialize it with something at the very least.
Also, there is no access other than by boat for hire or ren a boat yourself ? The best probably would be to hire a boat, cpt/tour guide. But looking to see the best eay to get there. Thanks again !
@@mqureshi8 Ya. You'll need to charter a boat. That would be the only way to get to the island.
@@AlamoSentry Thanks for the info ! I hope to do the same.
Its actually sad the fort doesn’t exist anymore
150 + years of hurricanes have greatly transformed the island. I wonder what will remain of it in another 100 years.
Sometimes I feel like I’m the only person who has a passion for learning about the American Civil War. My friends don’t get it. I’ve even driven 600 miles one way by myself to see a battlefield. I love your hat. (Kepi) I hope your interest in the topic still remains. I see the video is 2 yrs old. Great video 👍🏼
There are CW buffs all over the country. You've just gotta look. ;)
And thank you. Wagner has had held my interest my entire life. I am glad you enjoyed the video!
Probably won't see this but check in your area if there is a Civil War Roundtable. I have one here unfortunately they only meet once a month during the week in the evenings and I work 2nd shift so can never attend unless I take a day off. There are history buffs of all kinds around but it is difficult to find them if you don't make an effort to look. Like you I feel like I'm the only one imn the world with an interest in History but that is only because Im around the morons I work with 40-50 hours a week.
The Cadet Battery of The Citadel, that fired on the Star of the West on 9 January 1861, was a couple of hundred yards nrth of battery Wagner's position.
Thank you
I saw a map that showed where battery wagner was and the assault happened on the southeast side. The map showed where the shore line in 1860s and in 2008 if its right a good chunk of the south east side is visible and walkable. Most is probably under water but Like you said so many hurricanes but they found burial site on folly island of 55th mass. During the fighting there was two creeks that ran close by its all one now.
I'd be interested to see what map you're referring to. I went by original maps, work down by The American Civil War Battlefield Trust, and Satellite images.
should have climbed up the hill to see if their was anything that resembled a Fort .
The entire fort is underwater. I imagine if there was anything left over after 155 years, it might only be certain land features. Otherwise, it was a very low lying beach. The tide going up all the way to the dunes.
Thats no excuse Mr. Dillon .. lol . Just kidding . I’m fascinated by this story . Thank You so much for presenting this video . Awesome Sauce ...
@@fonzerellie3518 I was also warned of snakes and gators. Soooooo lol
Is there any Gators out there ? I wanted to metal detect out there see what I find.
Yes. And the island is protected now by a private purchase, by Charleston, and the American Civil War Battlefield Trust.
Hello. Do you think that most of Union casualties of the battle were due to "friendly fire"?
No. There probably were some friendly fire casualties, but most were a result of Confederate infantry and artillery fire from Battery Wagner. The ground in front of the works was flanked by marsh to the west and the ocean to the east, so that only one regiment at a time could attack. There was no cover to speak of for the Yankees to use; the Confederates could hardly miss.
Had a relative fight there.
Hey man, I created a couple of short films on my channel about the battle of fort wagner using Napoleon Total War. Great shots, I hope I can make it out there some day.
My folks were inside, 51st NC
Very cool! The whole history of the place is fascinating. I wish the entire site could be preserved. Alas...
Where you get your mnowledge from
Research.
The US army actually came back after the war and dug up the bodies including Shaws, and moved them to cemeteries. Shaw has a grave and tombstone in Beauford SC.
I know some of the bodies were recovered. I visited that gravesite over a decade ago. But it was at the request of his father that Shaw's body remained with his men where he died. I believe he is still there.
How did you get this guy to take you?
Chartered a local boat captain. The island is accessible from the harbor. There were families hanging out and sun bathing at the edge of the island when we departed.
Wade Dillon how much can that run you?
@@mgk22 Depends! The fella I went with asked for around $300. To and from the island is about a 30 minute to an hour boat ride from the harbor due to boat speeds and such.
@@AlamoSentry I'm shocked that it's that far from the mainland!
@@thegreatgambino5079 Ya. Hurricanes have reduced Morris Island by atleast 50% when you compared CW maps to satellite images. It is a very low-lying island.
My great grandad was there 3rd RI hvy arty
It's too bad the site is gone - I guess no matter what could have been done the effects of wind and sea on a sand, earth and timber structure would be almost impossible to save. I wonder about Fort Fisher at Wilmington, NC. At least it was destroyed by nature and not greedy developers.
Always wanted to see that. Heard the fort is eroded away
At the @3:00 mark, I am floating in the water within the proximity that Battery Wagner would've existed.
The mass graves are somewhere beneath me. I can imagine much of them have been swept far into the sea by this point.
@@AlamoSentry The Union dead were actually disinterred and buried at Beaufort National Cemetery.
@@scooniepenn I visited the cemetery. But I cannot imagine all of them were buried there.
The Fort spanned the whole widthe of Morris Island. The moie shows the 54th attacking from the north.....water at their left.....while i think it actually attacked from the south, where the water would be on the right. Maybe logistics and permissions had something to do with it.
Yeah the movie got the side wrong lol
I saw a map that showed the assault on battery wagner and the assault started on south east side of fort. The map also showed where shore line was in 2008 and if thats right a good chunk of land that had that assault is visible.
wow..that's nice i love the 54th
I am kinda shocked that morris island isnt a national park being how there is history there i mean there was three or two big battles there during the amarican civil war
@@ajbaumgart4774 Parts of the island are protected by the American Civil War Battlefield Trust. The rest is privately owned and also used for dredging spoil.
@@AlamoSentry thank you wasn't sure if it was but i know now I'm just glad some area's are we should treat that place respectfully for those on both sides who have died we should never distroy or disturb historical area's but thats me cause I'm a big history buff have a great evening
Hurrah!
Sad that the battery is underwater.
The island is low lying. 160 years of hurricanes have eroded it.
Gould’s family sent people to recover his body
Shaw's body was never recovered. His burial is documented by Confederate sources. Shaw's father went on to say “We can imagine no holier place than that in which he lies,” he wrote, “among his brave and devoted followers, nor wish for him better company-what a body-guard he has!”
@@AlamoSentry They sent ten men with bloodhounds that sniffed through every grain of sand on that beach but came up with nothing.
Why is it under water thats ao stupid who allowed this to happen
Mother nature. The island is low lying. 150 + years of hurricanes will do that.