How is nobody building this? - NEW OP LUCIAN BUILD

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  • @CoachSagi
    @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I'm a Challenger coach for all lanes, 2300 sessions & 400+ five-star reviews - metafy.gg/@sagittarius
    DORAN/CULL - (CULL)➡KRAKEN ➡ZEAL ➡ BF or PICKAXE ➡INFINITY & NAVORI ➡OPTIONAL AFTER THIS
    Never buy boots not even tier 1
    Runes:
    PTA - PoM - Bloodline - Coup/Cut down
    Cash back - Cookies/Triple tonic
    Can go double adaptive
    0:00 - Intro
    1:57 - Why this build?
    6:49 - Runes options
    8:53 - Pros and cons
    10:05 - Build math
    15:00 - Is 382ms really enough? How to adapt

  • @coolbrotherf127
    @coolbrotherf127 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    I've seen a lot of people say "don't buy kraken, it's terrible without crit" but it's still really strong in champs like Lucian or Kai'sa who benefit a lot from the attack speed and passive more than the crit.

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Kraken is absolutely broken on lucian and I would not be surprised if it gets nerfed. The MS allows you to not buy boots. The Lucian passive makes you proc kraken like 2-3 times per rotation. The passive is busted
      You dont need the crit early

    • @omrigoldberger9395
      @omrigoldberger9395 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's nothing new, it is still good, just not as good as the other options. Any champ that can utilize the crit is stronger by a mile than one that does not to the point that after 3-4 items you can one shot each other

    • @Leonard_27
      @Leonard_27 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lucian doesn’t benefit from AS that much in general, way more of raw AD due to great AD scaling in Q and R and then crit for increased R dmg. Kraken itself is in a really weird spot due to most Autoattack heavy ADCs being mostly crit reliant. Kai’sa Varus and Kog might be fine building it though.

    • @Leonard_27
      @Leonard_27 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As of this build i’m rly interested to try it but i’ve had a lot of success with collector IE build myself

    • @voidroad
      @voidroad 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      the problem on kraken isnt the first item spike
      the problem is that at 2 items you're not critting while the enemy is at 50% crit and sending you to narnia with their IE
      so you need to stomp hard with that spike for it to be worth it

  • @haroldpham6693
    @haroldpham6693 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Also one bonus point of building Kraken vs someone who is trying to build IE/ER early is the fact that your components are really cheap and easy to buy with your long swords vs their BF sword. You just perma fist fight (which you can because you're Losecian) and force often bases at like 800g intervals, you can buy items while enemy ADC has to awkwardly sit on awkward gold amounts since they need to eventually get the 1300g component item.

  • @pepperdayjackpac4521
    @pepperdayjackpac4521 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve been spamming this build on lucian, and I absolutely love it. The attack speed and being able to dash so often is so good.

  • @Marianolois
    @Marianolois 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great video!!! it really makes sense with lucian and hig high mobility with his E+passive. I love this part of the game with a new patch when get to experiment new build paths.

  • @dishonored6116
    @dishonored6116 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I actually main AD Shaco but he is similar to adcs in that he uses crit and autoattacks for his primary. I'm glad I was recommended this video because the boots dilemna is what I've been struggling to understand on Shaco for a long time. Zerks is a good spike and ms helps for ganks and clearing but he severely lacks damage so rushing damage items feels more rewarding. This helped me gain some more insight and perspective on the problem.

  • @nadra0755
    @nadra0755 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thoughts on collector/er first if u can buy bf first base? I feel like if u have 1300 gold recall early its illegal to not buy bf and not buying a bf item, with 1st base bf feels bad caus u delay 1st spike (+payback value aswell)

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      BF item first is only good when you have nami/milio and vs. long range enemies. Basically the more you can autoattack in fights, the worse it is, and the better kraken is.
      Also, you can autoattack more the lower elo you go, since you get spaced way less by lower elo enemies. So lower elo kraken is better, higher elo you can BF first and also you can BF first against more squishy or long range. BF doesnt work with bootless though

  • @edkuchinski3294
    @edkuchinski3294 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've started using this logic on my top lane champs (shen, quinn, mundo), and it's been tremendously effective

  • @dantejavelosa2439
    @dantejavelosa2439 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FINALLY! I FOUND A LUCIAN MAIN COACH! BEEN TRYING TO FIND SOMEONE LIKE YOU FOR OVER 6 MONTHS NOW. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTENT!!!! YOU JUST EARNED A SUB!!!

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      well I coach all lanes & roles, Lucian is just one of my main champs and I main ADC, probably he's my most played :)
      feel free to order on metafy whenever mfy.gg/@sagittarius
      thanks for the sub!

    • @dantejavelosa2439
      @dantejavelosa2439 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CoachSagi Yes, I can see that and I appreciate what you're doing. Thanks!

  • @hampusgrimskar2940
    @hampusgrimskar2940 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have been trying the same thing on jinx and it feels really good!

  • @haynes7458
    @haynes7458 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I get the abusing of the cashback rune, but the one problem I see, is that you can't completely chunk out sb with only ult like you could with Collector and IE.

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this build is not for playing with ult into long range comp with nami/milio into high elo players. for that obviously you go collector indeed. but 90% of soloq games this fits better

  • @andreaspelekanos2324
    @andreaspelekanos2324 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i tried 3 or 4 builds for Lucian and so far i thing yours is the best. Some mana problems but blue buff fixes it

  • @mymymilcock9588
    @mymymilcock9588 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about just going swiftness boots I just love the movement speed I feel when I have t2 boots

  • @danirey468
    @danirey468 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm also a Lucian main and I have been messing around with build and this build by far is the best, whoever is saying Kraken in trash on Lucian (Doublelift) just talks out of there ass.

  • @wesha3953
    @wesha3953 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    this, this is why i sub

  • @Laidaak
    @Laidaak 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you think it could work with Ashe ?

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Magical footwear without upgrade and then pd yeah

    • @Laidaak
      @Laidaak 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CoachSagi no Approach Velocity ?

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Laidaak yes both footwear and velocity

  • @kaedes9749
    @kaedes9749 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Opinion on ER on lucian ? I like it a lot since the micro patch . And thought on Collector 1st item , i see a lot of ppl going for that but i don't like it imo .

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think ER is bait, it's expensive, does little DPS etc etc, it's giga bad imo and you don't need either the haste nor the mana
      Collector is ER but better. Doesn't give speed tho so you need boots if you go collector. Still better than ER but this build is better since way cheaper.
      Collector and kraken are the only two viable starts. But needing 1300 for bf sucks also, another point for kraken

    • @kaedes9749
      @kaedes9749 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CoachSagi ty very much !

  • @sirsiver
    @sirsiver 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow i will try this right now! What if i buy just tier 1 boots? I mean it's just 300 golds and i like the extra ms

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nah at that point just go footwear. Don't buy boots trust the build

  • @dexijy
    @dexijy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is the video unlisted now ?

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fixing some stuff

  • @MajesticKa1
    @MajesticKa1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is huge !

  • @iTzzTronco
    @iTzzTronco 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If i would want to convert this into Jinx the way would be: Magical Footwear not building T2 boots, Kraken, PD, IE? Or would it be too bad to delay IE so long?

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i have two jinx builds in mind:
      collector - magical footwear - berserker - PD - IE
      or
      kraken - magical footwear - no upgrade - PD - IE

    • @iTzzTronco
      @iTzzTronco 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CoachSagi Wouldnt it be useless to go collector first when you could just go ie then first anyways with the price difference not being that much? so that would give an ie pd powerspike pretty much

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iTzzTronco if you can... but builds dont work like that. most games in high elo in the first recall you have less than 900 gold so you can only get 2 long swords or even one, ie is better to get 2nd or 3rd where recalls are more spread out. unless you recall with 900-1300 in first one then sure.

    • @iTzzTronco
      @iTzzTronco 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CoachSagi Yeah i get what you mean, i actually still dont think collector is an item anyone should rush on Jinx to be fair. I think footwear boots Kraken/pd/ie should be the best then. In some lanes i really liked that with fleet aswell. I just didnt try the boots thing yet (Always just bought T2 after first item/2nd item depending on how juiced my recalls are). Youre saying collector only because the components look better than IE right so i guess Kraken would still be better overall item in terms of build synergy. I like it when my items have synergy between each other and with my champions kit (I guess collector could be made work with R) And having AS/MS/AD is probably better than AD/Lethality and a little bit of extra gold/execute here. Please dont take it as an offense, im just learning all of this and trying to make it make sense for myself aswell ty

  • @n00n_tv
    @n00n_tv 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe i missed it in the video, but when do i choose to buy cull?

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I buy it on first recall if:
      A) I burned both my summs and can't buy double longsword (for example having 800 gold), due to burning summs I won't be fighting soon
      B) lane is extremely boring (Soraka vs yuumi or something)
      C) enemy lane is just giga outranging me and I can't really trade much so I'll just farm
      Either of those. As for starting cull I don't like it bot that much but in mid it's fine

  • @MoltenMeta
    @MoltenMeta 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imo, i think building speed boots would be an amazing forth or gettint it over finishing ie, still get the bf sword.
    Movement speed is and always have been the hest stat in the game, with speed boots you would be zooming with all the bonus movement speed and orb walking would be more reliable for those times you cannot infinity combo.
    All of this would he more relevant depending on what you are against, if there is a lillia jungle, voli top, Cassiopeia/ryze mid, xayra and rakan bot, movement speed instantly becomes far more important and would be buying boots third or forth.

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Damage is too low if you do that. 382 is more than enough with dash or nami or milio or cc supp unless late game into 430+ speed ADC in which case you go RFC 3/4 item

    • @MoltenMeta
      @MoltenMeta 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CoachSagi I see, I'm picking up adc again, been playing mid for like 5 years, it's interesting to see the stat weighted so differently.

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MoltenMeta I mean on Lucian it is, it's always been played with low Ms compared to a bruiser or whatever. It's okay to sacrifice 10 or 15 for 3 completed items at min 20

    • @MoltenMeta
      @MoltenMeta 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CoachSagi at the highest mastery of always having your dash off cd it makes total sense. I just spent a few minutes watching some Lucian highlights and I'm definitely going to play a couple games after today.
      From going from mid I didn't even consider Lucian even though he plays similarly to some mages. Taliyah is my main.

  • @PPhoen1x
    @PPhoen1x 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thinking of how i can implement this with kai'sa
    for the most part I've only been running 2 builds on her either
    ad on-hit: kraken > pickaxe[q evolve] (into rageblade) > berserk's (with recurve bow from rageblade gives E evolve) > terminus > bt > ga
    or hybrid: kraken > pickaxe[q evolve] (into rageblade) > berserk's > nashor's (fastest W evolve is blasting + amp tome) > zhonya's/deathcap/shadowflame
    Haven't messed around with the zephyr yet and I wanted to ask ur thoughts regarding that. considering we can upgrade to that, wouldn't boots be valuable?

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can try tomorrow see who else can use it but as for Kaisa... I don't think you can do it because it'd be too much attackspeed unless you skip guinso.
      Like you can do exactly same as this build with IE but say goodbye to evolving W and your DMG will be 95% physical

  • @javiersuarez3434
    @javiersuarez3434 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can I try it with Kaisa?

  • @spacelizard5280
    @spacelizard5280 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like Collectors Into I.E gives me much better trade patterns than Kraken into I.E. Can Kraken -> Flickerblade really compete with Collector's -> I.E ?? Ult deals a ton more damage at 50% crit as well... idk about this one tbh. It's true you have easier backs but if you're ahead and can get that B.F or Dirk you spike super hard. I agree that movement speed is super underrated on new Kraken

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But why are you comparing items one to one? The whole point is that I'll have 3 items by the time your other build has collector ie. I specifically mention this in the beginning...

    • @spacelizard5280
      @spacelizard5280 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe I am overestimating Lucian ult but I have found it deals sooo much damage at 2 item spike with the bigger items which lets me nuke targets without risking much compared to having to weave back & forth for kraken autos with E spam from flicker. I guess it depends heavily on how you play Luc + your comp vs enemy comp to determine which build is better every time, which is a nice thing tbh instead of just having a single carbon copy build for all games
      I am playing in low dia lobbies so in no way am I trying to say I know better or anything, this is all based on experience and gameplay feel when I can't consistently rely on my enchanters to do their job properly so relying on ult feels better on a game by game basis.
      I will try your suggestions because I feel the back timer argument though (going back for crit cloak because i am 200-300 short on B.F feels really bad ngl, maybe if they kept pickaxe on collector it would feel better)

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@spacelizard5280 it just depends on elo and comp. above master 600lp players will space you more so playing with far away burst and ult is more value. below 500lp and if enemies dont get 3-4+ range champ then its much more value to get kraken. if you're not playing super high elo i'd almost never play ult-priority build. I say this as both a challenger adc main and a full time coach who watches lower elo players for a living. people below high elo will not space you enough so you can get much more value out of kraken

    • @spacelizard5280
      @spacelizard5280 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CoachSagi I tried this a few games btw and my eyes are open to its superiority, skipping boots + getting cull consistently puts me 1+ item on enemy adc that's busted ngl, tyvm for sharing

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@spacelizard5280 told u it cooks

  • @N3versaw
    @N3versaw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonder if trist mid can take advantage of this - I've been experimenting with botrk/kraken > navori > IE builds on her and found the most success with those, so it's not too far off from what's being shown here. For a champ like trist, is it still more optimal to zeal > IE > navori or is navori > IE going to yield better results?

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      if you do this with mid trist take triple tonic instead of biscuit and take cull instead of doran

    • @N3versaw
      @N3versaw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CoachSagi makes sense with the triple tonic, but why cull start? is it because the build is playing for mid-game powerspike and/or that she's strong enough early to get away with starting cull? just trying to understand the base mindset for cull > doran

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@N3versaw yes exactly, you play for early recalls

    • @N3versaw
      @N3versaw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CoachSagi gotcha that makes sense, I'll give this a try and report back on how it feels ^-^ - thanks for the info!

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@N3versaw i'd say its better on adc trist tho, mid trist goes demolish etc

  • @Armagedis
    @Armagedis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will this be worth it in 14.15 in your opinion?

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Armagedis with kraken nerfs I don't think so. Nerf on both the speed and damage. I think the build is dead maybe but I haven't tested. Try ER rush into IE and CD boots with no navori

    • @gabzera883
      @gabzera883 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what if you rush ER then zeal or something like that? any ideia? still playing lucian mid, have seen some guys building BORK then black cleaver, what you think about it?

  • @Pedro-lf7fp
    @Pedro-lf7fp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ER got buffed, also collector is strong, and u will buy AS with navoris or rfc, so u could have 75% critc chance on 3 items, instead 50%

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      collector nerfed next patch and the ER buff is not enough, its still shitty item

  • @patrikjares1321
    @patrikjares1321 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Problem is that attack speed is not that good on lucion, for me is better to go for colector, inf., lord dominic. Also u have more crit scaling with inf. Adge and armour pen. In 3 items, that build is instakilling, boots in runes. Or the other rune and buy 1.lvl boots

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Try the build and you'll see, also watch the video because I'm pretty sure I answered all of this in the video. You can't compare builds one by one, by the time I have 3 items you have 1.5

  • @kamilkollodi2060
    @kamilkollodi2060 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    why is kraken good on lucian, he is not typical auto attacker?

    • @hantr5694
      @hantr5694 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      kraken is actually pretty bad on typical crit auto attackers now but he can get off a bunch of auto attacks quickly with his kit so it's good on him

  • @Dezzy7
    @Dezzy7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You mention that components are bad now but then suggest we delay our second item by buying zeal and bf. I dont get why you think that's best

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      BF didnt get nerfed. Caufields, Dirk and others got nerfed a while back. Single longswords and daggers are also fine (kraken, zeal)

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      In other words perhaps I wasn't clear but I meant that riot intentionally nerfed components such as dirk and caufields some months ago to prevent snowballing

  • @burhansalaria
    @burhansalaria 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how about upgrading boots to berserker and at Lvl 15 we can upgrade them to zephyr?

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      huge waste of gold, you dont even buy tier 1 boots, and attackspeed is useless on lucian

  • @cenkarson777
    @cenkarson777 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the damage on target dummies is a bit flawed, you should increase the armor and hp on the dummies since the damage from kraken is highly inflated as it scales with missing health now.

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's still barely changing due to that, it's still heavy out damaged. It's only the final kraken proc anyway

    • @cenkarson777
      @cenkarson777 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CoachSagi it's on both procs equalling about 120ish damage. But I tried the build in d1 mmr and you actually cooked bro. There are games where kraken + navori don't really do much, for example against a comp like vayne top graves hwei kalista ashe, what would you then recommend? Kraken into zeal into IE into RFC maybe?

  • @LessFluff
    @LessFluff 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:02 the no navori in question.

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      good catch, i meant no ability haste

  • @vxriuz
    @vxriuz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What do you think about phantom dancer on some adcs? I’ve always thought it was underrated along with energy in general. I usually build it on vayne when I feel like I need to carry cause it gives insane move speed. Now it also makes u ghosted.

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      On ex-lethal tempo ADC you can magical footwear and never upgrade boots and kraken/pd

  • @Faxek
    @Faxek 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you also go no shoes on samira or jhin?

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Since you can't buy kraken which gives Ms, no. But you buy tier1 boots only really late as samira

  • @Kareempwner
    @Kareempwner 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What do you think of conq on lucian

    • @Wormsworth42069
      @Wormsworth42069 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not him but its troll, PTA will out damage conq in both short and long trades
      Conq better if u have high ad scalings like samira with her ult and for someone who cant proc PTA easily

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bad, tried to make it work several times but it just doesnt

  • @hiruymulugeta4648
    @hiruymulugeta4648 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    maybe take ghost and cosmic insight
    and then u should be good in terms of ms

  • @peakskreie1743
    @peakskreie1743 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Playing Lucian, should I build Ruined Kings for health based tanks(with item like heartsteal)?

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      with this build you can do that 5th or 6th since you have extra slot and you'll be 100crit anyway

    • @peakskreie1743
      @peakskreie1743 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CoachSagi Copy that :)

  • @ImSilverstar
    @ImSilverstar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why buy zeal and bf and not just a full item then the next full item

  • @SurinamElephant
    @SurinamElephant 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about this on trist ?

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100% can do it

  • @Anakin93
    @Anakin93 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem with Lucian is that even if you have 2 items more than the other adc, the other adc will still deal more damage ROFL
    I did 2 games with this build and strats, both game Samira and Draven literally 10x my damage with IE collector.

  • @jeremyNorris-w4r
    @jeremyNorris-w4r 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I never knew there where so many lucian mains lmfao

  • @spaciestcross
    @spaciestcross 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why is this video not listed?? 😭 fortunately I got it from my yt watch history hahaha but it's a really informative video! :o

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Will be back to listed soon, fixing some stuff. In the meantime you can order sessions y'all!

  • @daemonkisure2952
    @daemonkisure2952 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can i use this with vayne top?

    • @aKindred
      @aKindred 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      probably since vayne gets movespeed on passive and tumble for dodging, specially if you go kraken -> bork, you will probably have enought speed by that point depending on the game

    • @daemonkisure2952
      @daemonkisure2952 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aKindred thanks bro

  • @noedels3682
    @noedels3682 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would you go this exact same core build if you're playing with a nami/millio?

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can use my first strike page with them but the build remains the same. Just complete IE after zeal, and then you can upgrade zeal to either navori or RFC, that's the change

  • @Negalee1
    @Negalee1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks!

  • @peakskreie1743
    @peakskreie1743 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love this vid :)

  • @lilkaizen1965
    @lilkaizen1965 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    new meta bro

  • @agseba124
    @agseba124 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this sounds good for Lucian.
    and no, the no boots is not gonna happen. maybe for lucian but not any other adc

  • @blakelindemann8672
    @blakelindemann8672 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome

  • @MellowSkyy
    @MellowSkyy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    me when i main mages and i have 375-380 speed with boots

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly haha

  • @haroldpham6693
    @haroldpham6693 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Delete this right now I don't want Jinx with this or Twitch pls

  • @Ranxior55
    @Ranxior55 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    played a few games with this tonight. no boots genuinely feels terrible. cash back nets you like 700-800 gold maybe if youre lucky in most games. this didnt really get me items all that much faster than just winning with more stats.

  • @MilleFalchiJUNIOR
    @MilleFalchiJUNIOR 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    man this build is fucking illegal

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i hope thats a good thing hahaha

    • @MilleFalchiJUNIOR
      @MilleFalchiJUNIOR 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CoachSagi oh yes for sure

  • @NicoBlackXIV
    @NicoBlackXIV 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You make some good points but no one actually plays what you call the "regular" Lucian build. It's straight up nonsensical. Not to mention the difference is mostly generated from cashback, which you compare to NOTHING.

    • @CoachSagi
      @CoachSagi  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When I uploaded this vid everyone was playing essence reaver with the build I mentioned. Collector build became popular later.
      I have no idea wym by comparing Cashback to nothing