The Battle of Cannae

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  • Perhaps no great defeat has been more famous across time that one fought in the Second Punic War, when the feared Hannibal of Carthage crossed the Alps intent on sacking Rome. In a series of brilliant strategic victories, Hannibal threatened the very existence of the Roman Republic. And Hannibal perhaps never came closer to the defeat of his foes than when he met an unprecedented eight Roman legions on fields of Italia, near the small ancient village of Cannae
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  • @dougreid2351
    @dougreid2351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    My very wise sixth grade teacher was the one who finally taught me how to read. He took me in to the public library, showed me the history section, & checked out a book about the campaigns of Hannibal. It worked. By the time the narrative got to Cannae I could hardly put the book down.

  • @davedruid7427
    @davedruid7427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The Zulus used a similar Strategy as used at Cannae without knowing of Hannibal. They called it the Bull & Horns Attack.

    • @teresapyeatt3698
      @teresapyeatt3698 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The same strategy was used at the battle of cow pens in the us revolutionary war

    • @fortusvictus8297
      @fortusvictus8297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      To say Shaka knew nothing of Hannibal would be what the kids call 'implied racism'. The Zulus were not as ignorant and shut off from the world as British film makers would have us believe, they had access to not only missionaries but traveling merchants. In fact the entire change in the Zulu empire under Shaka was towards that of a Roman Empire model, he shortened the weapons, drilled formations, and yes the tactics. They also took a very classical Roman approach to dealing with traitors and groups that would not submit to the new 'Empire'.

  • @Ceractucus
    @Ceractucus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The world needs more historians who know their stuff, are entertaining to watch, and teach as they talk. Well done sir!

  • @AaronHahnStudios
    @AaronHahnStudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    2:09 in. I believe that it was from Quintus Fabius MAXIMUS that Monty Python got the idea for the character Biggus Dickus. Hats off to all those who remember that awesome gag.

    • @patrickwolff2727
      @patrickwolff2727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Don’t forget his wife, Incontinentia. Incontinentia Buttocks

    • @AaronHahnStudios
      @AaronHahnStudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@patrickwolff2727 Ahh yes. What a loving couple they were. 😄

  • @seanpoore2428
    @seanpoore2428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    This might be the Least obscure bit of history I've seen you cover lol But I'm glad you did I can't get enough Hannibal

    • @billd.iniowa2263
      @billd.iniowa2263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I wish Lindybeige would finish his series on him.

    • @seanpoore2428
      @seanpoore2428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@billd.iniowa2263 I forgot about that!!

    • @seanpoore2428
      @seanpoore2428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@poetryflynn3712 true but most of the stories on this channel are like "here's the story of a dog from the 1700s!" or the story of some trade dispute or something that was happening concurrently with/obscured by WW2s most epic battles, etc etc. compared to this channels usual topics Cannae is downright famous lol

    • @loke6664
      @loke6664 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@poetryflynn3712 Really? It was one of the few Roman battles we discussed when I was in school, probably the only one where the teachers showed us the troop formations.
      It is one of the most famous battles in history together with battles like Hastings, Bannockburn, Breitenfeld, Waterloo, Somme and Stalingrad. If you have any interest in military history past WW2 it is one of the most important battles to study.
      And it had a great impact on history for hundreds of years, but not in the way Hannibal hoped it would. The Romans had to modify their military doctrines afterwards which is what set them up as a super power. Kinda like the war in Pacific set up US as a super power in the 20th century, US also had to change their doctrines after Pearl harbor which changed world history as well.

    • @rikk319
      @rikk319 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@poetryflynn3712 Marathon didn't have the same tactics as Cannae. The Greek hoplites, for the first time, didn't march under a hail of Persian arrows, but charged in at a jog, which threw off the archers. Their momentum drove back the Persian lines, and their heavier armor and weapons pushed them to their ships and led to a slaughter. There was no envelopment, and the fighting was close for a while at first.

  • @rnedlo9909
    @rnedlo9909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you for another great video. Hannibal was the best war trainer Rome had. He taught them how to fight, supply their army and maneuver. Without his impute Rome would have had a harder time conquering the rest of western Europe/N Africa and beyond.

  • @theemmjay5130
    @theemmjay5130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I never thought I'd see a Lego minifigure in a History Guy video. I love it when my fandoms collide like that.

  • @michaelwalton7066
    @michaelwalton7066 2 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Hannibal: Lights a cigar. "I love when a plan comes together!"😁

    • @shawnr771
      @shawnr771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And pats his Mini14.

    • @bremnersghost948
      @bremnersghost948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Who needs Elephants when you have a BA

    • @shawnr771
      @shawnr771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bremnersghost948 The original.
      Mr T.
      Muhammed Ali's bodyguard.

    • @neilkurzman4907
      @neilkurzman4907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@bremnersghost948
      I pity the fool that fights an elephant.

    • @spaddriver1957
      @spaddriver1957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He also grins and rubs his hands together with glee!.

  • @johnbartholf777
    @johnbartholf777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Awesome telling of the tale, but more maps would have really helped. I mean, the whole brilliance of the battle can't be adequately conveyed without showing the double encirclement from above.

  • @bhunterbmw335is2
    @bhunterbmw335is2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You need a tv series and to be paid very well for it, Top class presenter and entertainer

  • @mjfbb22
    @mjfbb22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As usual with THG, great analysis, insight, scope, breadth, and grasp of critical history. His use of old film footage adds to his analysis. Great History now being remembered.

  • @lynxrufus2007
    @lynxrufus2007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    The facts about the battle were of course known to me, but it's the first time I saw original footage from the 2nd Punic War. Thank you!

    • @jaybee9269
      @jaybee9269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Indeed, it’s impressive!

    • @MrFuzzyGreen
      @MrFuzzyGreen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's not the original footage actually. They fired the original Director and he reshot over 70% of the film. It's estimated that 16,432 extras died in the reshoots alone.

    • @lynxrufus2007
      @lynxrufus2007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrFuzzyGreen Puny Punic propaganda.

    • @glennsmusic
      @glennsmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love how the Romans kept meticulously clean fingernails.

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I used bits from two silent films from the 1910s-history in themselves.

  • @stardogchampion96
    @stardogchampion96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All caught up to all the dropped videos here. Thanks Hx Guy. Great voice and collective narrative.

  • @tauceti8341
    @tauceti8341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    the battle of cannae gives me goosebumps like fire of alexandria.
    I cant imagine being a soldier in the middle of death pile
    talk about falling on your sword

    • @firingallcylinders2949
      @firingallcylinders2949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've always found melee combat fascinating. If you do the math it's literally dozens of deaths per minute to reach these kinds of casualties. I can't imagine what that even looks like in a massive ancient world battle.

    • @googiegress7459
      @googiegress7459 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@firingallcylinders2949 It would have been unusual from their perspective too; remember that the death toll was remarkably high because of the envelopment.
      EDIT:
      First they are arrayed in lines and see the enemy in the distance. The Romans would be confident, although all men feel fear before mortal battle. As they approach in coordination their feet stamp the ground. The men near each other may synchronize because of their marching drills, but the whole line will gradually fall out of step. It's Summer in Italy, and the heat would be strong, and the Romans thirsty for having lost their water access. The ground is not perfectly smooth, but there are grasses and brush and weeds, but these are quickly stamped flat by the men's sandaled feet. A great dust rises within Hannibal's lines and begins to blow toward the Romans, as they squint into the sunrise. Their armor is heavy and hot. They know they must defeat Hannibal or he will rape their civilization and destroy Rome.
      When the armies are still over a thousand feet apart, about a quarter-mile, Hannibal's slingers may have begun firing. They would have a longer maximum and effective range than arrows fired from bows. Either they fired smooth river stones the size of a small fist, carefully chosen by the slingers, or else thumb-shaped lead bullets the slingers had poured into thumb-shaped holes in the sand. The stones or bullets would rain down on the Roman lines, striking down completely at random. At that range accurate fire against a man is impossible, but when firing at 90,000 men densely packed in ranks the hits are very likely. To give an idea of effectiveness, the Romans had special narrow tongs they used to extract leaden sling bullets from the deep wounds they caused after penetrating a man's flesh. The stones would rain down and dent or even puncture Roman armor, and shatter the wood of their shields, and wear them down.
      The barrage of sling ammunition would injure men, demoralize them, knock them out, or kill them. At this point before the fighting, did some officers order men to carry their wounded and dying compatriots back to safety? Or were they left behind in the dust? The Romans would answer the Carthaginians' missile fire with what they had.
      When the men come closer, both sides throw javelins. The javelins of Carthage were sturdy and could be thrown back, but the Roman pilum had a weak neck behind the sharp head so when it struck it would bend, making return fire ineffective. The pilum would also stick into a shield, making it hard to hold up and move around, so sometimes a shield would be abandoned. The men don't want to step forward, to close that fateful distance, so they throw and posture and scream. Horns blare, drums and chimes, to invigorate the thirsty, bruised men. And finally they are driven together. The spears of the front rank and the rank behind them stab and stab in a whirlwind forest, a swarm of hornets, jamming into shields or their shafts clattering on the rims of shields as they lance forward into men's throats and faces, or luckily glance off a helm or hanging cheek-guard. There are, at all times, a dozen spears stabbing toward your face.
      The slingers have stopped, their arms tired and their pouches exhausted. They aren't armed well for melee and wear little or no armor. They watch the infantry in front of them hopefully because if combat reaches them they will probably die. They watch the for time when they must try to flee, gripping a knife or hatchet.
      The back ranks press forward, themselves pushed from behind. The front ranks body-slam into each other, shield to shield, shoving and kicking. The short sturdy Roman gladius stabs from between the shields, sometimes finding its mark in a Carthaginian thigh or belly. The Carthaginians wield long falcatas, scything slashing weapons with longer reach and a sharp point, and these whirl above to cleave spear shafts and stab below at the Roman bodies.
      Men are crying out, moaning in pain, dying. As they drop men from back ranks push forward to fill their space. The air is a hot choking cloud of dust, and no man can see more than a few dozen feet away. The sun is an orange orb in the sky. Everyone is caked with dirt. The world is full of an endless and uninterrupted cacophony of metal on metal. The bodies begin to pile up and nobody can move them out of the way. The blood pours into the soil and turns it into trampled mud, reeking and slippery. Men lose traction in the shoving match and fall, to be stomped or stabbed, unable to stand again because someone from behind has already taken their place in line.
      Every man is tired, having barely survived multiple attacks and having swung his roughly 6-pound weapons repeatedly with full vigor. The dust coats the inside of the Roman mouth and nose, the grit is in his eyes and teeth. But the legendary Roman prowess seems to be working. The Carthaginians are being pushed back! Roman lines step over unidentifiable bodies of men half-pressed into the bloody mud. Forward, forward. Surely the rest of the lines are doing just as well, on the flanks. The battle wears on with slow, slow progress. There are no reserves; the men are all exhausted. And then suddenly, confusion. An attack is coming from the rear! Men in your line begin to push from the sides, everyone squeezed together, and at the same time the relieved pressure from the enemy's line renews and pushes back hard enough to stop the advance.
      Nobody can communicate with each other. Everyone's eyes are horrified behind that mask of caked dust. You can't find your officers. You can't find any friends. It seems impossible, that you're being crushed together like this when the Roman side outnumbered the Carthaginians and was pushing them back! There's no solid front line anywhere, spears stick out in all directions. Soon you're pinned in on all sides by your countrymen, compressed and suffocated. You can't flex your chest and arms to make any room, for there is no room left. You're afraid to breathe out, lest you be unable to breathe in again, but your lungs must gulp the dusty air. Your arms are pinned to your sides, your weapons useless. And you begin to see through the haze the men at the edge of your vision being cut down by the approaching Carthaginian lines. You were too late, left in the middle during the envelopment, and escape is impossible. Men with elaborate armor are being dragged out of the Roman pile to be captured as prisoners by enterprising Carthaginians; men with modest equipment are being cut down. They are not accepting surrender.
      In your last moments, struggling to breathe, exhausted, waiting to be eviscerated, you think back on Rome undefended. Rome afire. Rome crumbling. The streets splashed by rivers of blood. The end of civilization, the end of the world.

  • @paulrowlston4239
    @paulrowlston4239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    As Dan Carlin has said, possibly one of the worst days in history to have been part of if you were Roman, but also proof that Rome, unlike most of their peers, could take a punch and keep fighting. An astonishing part of a very, very compelling story. Check out Carlin's Punic Wars for the full, glorious detail.

    • @verneblestien315
      @verneblestien315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Love listening to Dan Carlin

    • @paulrowlston4239
      @paulrowlston4239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@verneblestien315 My absolute favourite Podcaster. In fact, I might have to listen to the archives again! (Genghis x 3 so far and WW1 also!)

    • @johnbartholf777
      @johnbartholf777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I thought about this the whole time. He talks about this ability to take a punch and keep fighting in his WWI series. Brilliant stuff!

    • @paulrowlston4239
      @paulrowlston4239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@johnbartholf777 Yeah, Carlin has spoken of this more than once. And, honestly, his work is simply the best. I really do think I will have to go back to the archives again!

    • @hardrocksuk
      @hardrocksuk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@paulrowlston4239 Yeah me too, loved that series.

  • @timmcclymont3527
    @timmcclymont3527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great video, just finished the video and I have to say this one is such a great narrative on this famous battle. I beg you please make more narratives on ancient battles, your style of speaking mixed with your historical photos are perfect for use in teaching history to my kids. Keep up the great work sir, your a historian, who deserves to be remembered.

  • @CAUSELESSREBEL
    @CAUSELESSREBEL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent take on an often dissected battle. Concise and on point. Thank you.

  • @usxxgrant
    @usxxgrant 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another good snippet. My favorite possibly apocryphal tale is that of Hannibal sending a delegation to the Roman senate to announce victory, and for emphasis dumping bushel baskets of Roman citizenship rings on the floor as visual proof of the Roman defeat.
    You're doing great. Keep it up!

  • @soldieramerican5964
    @soldieramerican5964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you History Guy! ✝️🇺🇸✝️

  • @happy-go-commie
    @happy-go-commie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I bet most armies don't have a single soldier named Gisgo, and that's to their disadvantage.

  • @Thankz4sharing
    @Thankz4sharing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The popularity of your YT channel is well deserved. Your pacing and voice modulation is spot on for my particular tastes.

  • @taun856
    @taun856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One of the greatest "What if's" of history is "What if the Carthaginian government had fully supported Hannibal." For 16 years he was basically on his own, behind enemy lines without supply. Additional pressure on the Roman's in Hispania, Sicily and Southern Gaul/Northern Italy would have helped him greatly.

    • @zibutzabut
      @zibutzabut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actually Carthagenian govt did that on purpose because they were afraid if Hannibal wins the war , he will come back to Carthage and people will claim him as a ruler. So in krder to protect their chairs , they sacrificed him...

    • @dpeasehead
      @dpeasehead 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zibutzabut Him, and the war, and eventually, Carthage itself.

  • @Peter-fy4pj
    @Peter-fy4pj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im pretty glad he found some videos from back in the days!

  • @johnsturm3128
    @johnsturm3128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Since you selected the Battle of Cannae as the subject of this episode, (and an excellent one at that), I am suggesting an entire series using Sir Edward Creasy’s “Decisive Battles of the World” as a foundation for more of your exceptional history lessons. I recall the second edition counted 25 decisive battles instead of the original 15. Nicely done.

  • @whyjnot420
    @whyjnot420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    There is something I feel was neglected here, as it is often neglected. People talk about how great Rome was due to all the victories won, cities plundered and land annexed. To talk like this is to only tell half of the story when it comes to the military side of Rome.
    There is one place the other side of this story is told, the fields of Heraclea and Asculum in Italy. The two fields won by Pyrrus of Epirus at great cost. Two _defeats_ of Rome.
    What truly made the Roman military so great for so long along with their ability to inflict pain, was the ability Rome had to be utterly and decisively beaten on the field, but then get back up and fight more. In the first Punic war, Rome lost two enormous fleets to _storms_ alone, but kept coming. They lost upwards of 70,000 men at Cannae and yet Carthage fell at Zama. Even the mighty Pyrrus of Epirus lost at Beneventum where half of his 20,000 men fell.
    Brennus is supposed to have said _Vae victis_ "Woe to the vanquished."
    Rome would say: _Donec proximo mense_
    (Till the next month....)
    (Ok, I came up with that last line.... but it does sum up the attitude of Rome quite well I think)
    edit: btw, Livy says that when Varro, upon escaping the battle and returning to Rome, was praised for not giving in to despair and taking his own life. This was even though Rome was in enough of a panic to actually perform some human sacrifices. Something you will not see happen again (with the exception of the sands of the colosseum).

    • @dpeasehead
      @dpeasehead 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Lewis Taylor: The way the Romans mastered complex naval technology in a short time and then bested the Carthaginians, a people who came from a long seafaring tradition and were the masters of the Mediterranean, is at least as amazing as their ability to recover from horrific losses at sea and on the battlefields.

  • @rehabem
    @rehabem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Marvelous presentation. Thank you

  • @jerseykaari
    @jerseykaari 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I was in the Army, 25ish years ago, we were taught ground tactics dating all the way back to the Civil War. As I advanced in my training, I was amazed to learn that so many of those tactics dated back to and/or had their roots among the times of the Romans, Hannibal, and often this battle in particular.
    Once again, fascinating history.

    • @glenchapman3899
      @glenchapman3899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You only need to thumb through Sun Tzu's Art of War to appreciate this point

    • @danielbackley9301
      @danielbackley9301 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@glenchapman3899 Or as the preacher says nothing new under the sun. Except the latest crop of dead bodies caused by fools given command .

    • @glenchapman3899
      @glenchapman3899 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danielbackley9301 Yes there would be real truth in that.

  • @humphet
    @humphet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DUDE, MORE OF THESE STORIES PLEASE. THIS IS A PERFECT EPISODE

  • @jamesbarca7229
    @jamesbarca7229 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At the Battle of Cowpens during the Revolutionary War, Daniel Morgan pulled off a double envelopment of the British under Banastre "the butcher" Tarleton, absolutely crushing the British force.
    It's noted as one of the few successful double envelopments in history, and is still taught at West Point. The story would make a great History Guy episode. Daniel Morgan deserves to be remembered

  • @bongodrumzz
    @bongodrumzz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have read many versions and seen quite a few presentations live and via video of the battle of Cannae, this one is about the best, thank you

  • @DesperateDigger666
    @DesperateDigger666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    While we don’t learn when this particular episode was conceived, the timing of its release is interesting...
    Apropos an earlier thread, the footage was awesome and puts all war history channels in the shade.

  • @lazyatthedisco
    @lazyatthedisco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Romans were still on the four basic math operations while Hannibal was already on some derivatives/ integral next level shit

  • @frosty3693
    @frosty3693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A couple of historians in a podcast said Rome was like the Klingons and the Borg. First they never stopped fighting unless totally destroyed and second assimilated any tactic or technology that worked better than theirs.

  • @tonyk1584
    @tonyk1584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Very interesting episode, thanks THG. What was truly amazing is that you were able to dig up newsreels from the time and incorporate them into the podcast.

  • @kenehlears7716
    @kenehlears7716 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks THG this battle has always been so fascinating to me.you need another fine job😁😁😁😁

  • @tonylittle8634
    @tonylittle8634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for sharing this. You do an awesome job at articulating history.

  • @mbc6008
    @mbc6008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another excellent video!

  • @punditgi
    @punditgi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another excellent and well crafted video.

  • @cliff8669
    @cliff8669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hannibal ... A man who understood the "Art of War" before it was written.

    • @goldendragons382
      @goldendragons382 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sun Tzu lived about three hundred years before the battle of Cannae.

  • @KelpieDog
    @KelpieDog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another informative and entertaining video. Good stuff!

  • @coling3957
    @coling3957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    i'm impressed there was actual film footage of the Punic Wars, in b&w of course... an absurd system of rotating commanders of the army daily is insane. even with the BEST generals, it simply wouldn't work.

    • @jonrolfson1686
      @jonrolfson1686 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Silver halide based photographic materials take all the prizes for longevity, at least when stored under optimal conditions.

    • @graceamerican3558
      @graceamerican3558 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Changing generals is a real bad idea - heck I KNOW that.

    • @letosgoldenpath1993
      @letosgoldenpath1993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@graceamerican3558 Apparently the Romans never read Sun Tzu.

    • @whyjnot420
      @whyjnot420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It worked at Marathon for the Greeks. Athens had not two consuls, but _ten_ strategoi.

    • @JamesWilliams-en3os
      @JamesWilliams-en3os 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂

  • @mellissadalby1402
    @mellissadalby1402 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a great presentation on this battle.

  • @stevebailey325
    @stevebailey325 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great episode!

  • @theidahotraveler
    @theidahotraveler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was great thanks I love the battle ones!

  • @derekmendoza6547
    @derekmendoza6547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh yes❤️ I love this battle

  • @darrinwright6758
    @darrinwright6758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video

  • @zach7193
    @zach7193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hannibal nearly brought Rome to it's knees, but didn't follow up with the success. Maharbal, the commander of the Numidian cavalry said to Hannibal, "You know to how to conquer, Hannibal; but you do not know how to make use of your victory." Battle of Cowpens takes the inspiration from Cannae.

    • @MarkVrem
      @MarkVrem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      During the War, there were two Numidias. Eastern Numidia was allied with Carthage, and Western Numidia was allied with Rome. About 10 years after Cannae when the tide was turning, Eastern Numidia also became allied to Rome. Unifying the 2 Numidia into one Numidian state. Then fought alongside the Romans at Zama.

  • @Alexander-fr1kk
    @Alexander-fr1kk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    “Those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it.” Thanks for your channel sir.

    • @gennaro13
      @gennaro13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So if I didn't know about Neil Armstrong...?

    • @markawbolton
      @markawbolton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those who fail to learn the lessons of History will probably be no good at Geography, Agricultural Science and Geochemistry either.

    • @markawbolton
      @markawbolton 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gennaro13 Or Chuck Yeager?

    • @johnbartholf777
      @johnbartholf777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And those who DO know history are doomed to watch others repeat it.

    • @r3dp9
      @r3dp9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnbartholf777
      At least those who know their history have the luxury of watching others repeat it from a safe distance.

  • @samhianblackmoon
    @samhianblackmoon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent work

  • @xvsj-s2x
    @xvsj-s2x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge ❤️

  • @hallsocker
    @hallsocker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The History Guy, high and tight... keep up the good work!

  • @emmonstrex65
    @emmonstrex65 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful, as usual 👍👍

  • @raywhitehead730
    @raywhitehead730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Cannae battle field is still wide open for inspection. It's a gently sloping wide field with a very shallow creek at the bottom of the slope. I was first there as a boy in the mid-sixties. There were a few farm houses in the area. Google Earth allows your to tour it quite well. It was hard to imagine that many men fighting in that small of area. The whole area was planted in sorhgum grain plants when I was there.

    • @alanmountain5804
      @alanmountain5804 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Going to Cannae will be a lifetime trip for me. Thanks for sharing your memories

    • @alanmountain5804
      @alanmountain5804 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Going to Cannae will be a lifetime trip for me. Thanks for sharing your memories

  • @michaelparlapiano1439
    @michaelparlapiano1439 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is a really nice intro for this channel, very simple and classy!

  • @stuartharper3968
    @stuartharper3968 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always awesome, this world class history master !!!!!!!!!

  • @davidtucker3729
    @davidtucker3729 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    old history tells a story for sure. Thanks Lance

  • @syoung6126
    @syoung6126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome information. Really like the opening screen as well.

  • @MrTtph
    @MrTtph 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job....

  • @kalitor217
    @kalitor217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was a Latin merit scholar in high school and we studied the second Punic war. In Livys account he states that the the battle took place on August 2 216 BC

  • @walttrotter535
    @walttrotter535 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very Interesting!

  • @southernkiwi8720
    @southernkiwi8720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's 11pm here in NZ I am off to bed going to save you for the morning.

    • @chrisyoung5929
      @chrisyoung5929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You have more self-restraint than I do. Good night.

    • @chrisyoung5929
      @chrisyoung5929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @JZ's Best Friend It's because they walk about upside down on the other side of the world. All the blood rushed to their heads so they need to lie down.

  • @alexmclean760
    @alexmclean760 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When you pick the line of battle and know the outcome before it happens u are a true general

  • @Sealdeam
    @Sealdeam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Given that you cover topics that are less well known I initially thought the video was about the second and way more obscure Battle of Cannae which took place in 1018 in which the army of the Eastern Roman Empire defeated the first detachment of Norman fortune-seekers who ventured into the conflictive landscape of southern Italy to try (and eventually succeed) to carve principalities for themselves.

  • @charliemountain82
    @charliemountain82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cannae was inspired by the naval battle of Ecnomus in the First Punic War, a generation before. The same strategy which succeeded so totally on land utterly failed on water.

    • @dpeasehead
      @dpeasehead 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Charlie Mountain: That's the fight which saw the victorious Roman navy nearly annihilated by a storm on its way home.

  • @allanlank
    @allanlank 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "These Romans are crazy" Obelix (translated from Breton).

  • @bockmaker
    @bockmaker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Marcus Vindictus : Don't you know your right flank from your left flank?
    Captain Mucus : I'm sorry sir, I flunked flank.
    Marcus Vindictus : You flunked flank? Get the flunk out of here!

  • @jezblades9913
    @jezblades9913 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible that you have the actual newsreels from the time.

  • @deckedout6610
    @deckedout6610 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am subscribed to your channel, Doug's channel and Andrew's channel . I like the way you do yours the best

  • @glenschumannGlensWorkshop
    @glenschumannGlensWorkshop 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @johnfrancis9668
    @johnfrancis9668 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice

  • @ohari1
    @ohari1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent

  • @drjdsjr
    @drjdsjr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff

  • @r3dp9
    @r3dp9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Psychological methods like denying water."
    There is nothing psychological about dehydration. That's a physical effect with disastrous consequences, especially to soldiers who are marching, carrying equipment, and preparing exert their physical abilities to the greatest they can, all while exposed to the elements. I don't know what the logistics of getting enough daily water to 90k troops is, but disrupting that for even a single day would do incredible harm.
    And yes, on top of the physical effects there would also be psychological demoralization, but I would argue that the physical effects would be worse than the mental.

    • @MarkVrem
      @MarkVrem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      People dry fast it's a whole "health" fab today. I think people back then would go without water for a day or two ever so often, just part of travelling/life.

    • @teebes2009
      @teebes2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think another psychological result of denying water is that as the brain gets dehydrated, the mind gets confused and the person starts making bad decisions.

    • @rikk319
      @rikk319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hannibal used tactics that would have made Sun Tzu proud. He had his men wake up early to eat breakfast, then sent them out to harrass Roman foragers, so they couldn't gather supplies, and kept the Romans' army from eating their own breakfast. He set his army up so the morning sun would shine in the eyes of the Romans. The wind, too, he had at his back, so the dust of his troops' marching feet would blow into the Romans' faces. He set up with the river at his left, so his numerically superior heavy cavalry could have every advantage against the Romans' cavalry, and keep them from maneuvering away.
      Put this on top of him knowing the Roman leaders, and choosing to attack on the day the more easily manipulated Consul was in command. All of this, and he chose to stand at the front of his multinational army, in a place of great danger, and lead by example. The man was an outstanding general and leader.

  • @rickharold7884
    @rickharold7884 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. Fascinating

  • @PeterOkeefe54
    @PeterOkeefe54 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanx Lance..I enjoy your video's....how about one on Landing zone xray?

  • @ricktasker8248
    @ricktasker8248 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @De_Wit
    @De_Wit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    What doesn't kill Rome just makes it stronger.

    • @graceamerican3558
      @graceamerican3558 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @JZ's Best Friend BUT people are seeing THROUGH this pope and what they are seeing is not good. He MAY have overstepped himself a might.

    • @letosgoldenpath1993
      @letosgoldenpath1993 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Until Rome killed itself.

    • @graceamerican3558
      @graceamerican3558 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @JZ's Best Friend Not always.

    • @robertogonzales1956
      @robertogonzales1956 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Huns: hold my ale

  • @jacqueschouette7474
    @jacqueschouette7474 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Battle of Cowpens during the Revolutionary War is another example of a double envelopment. I've actually been to the location of the Battle of Cannae in Italy. There's not much there, just an empty field.

  • @ric8868
    @ric8868 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great episode. Thank you 😊 Historia Civilis also has some great videos about it. Now on an unrelated subject…. Are you returning that vest to the shop? ;)

  • @stevecastro1325
    @stevecastro1325 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That name will definitely stick in my mind now; thank you!

  • @MarshOakDojoTimPruitt
    @MarshOakDojoTimPruitt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks

  • @leveretth
    @leveretth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The History Guy and readers here might want to search Quora for the question "What is the most misunderstood battle in history?" I don't necessarily support the answerer's version. I just happened to read it the other day and thought it might be of interest to those here.

  • @coltonendicott3714
    @coltonendicott3714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your intros are nice history guy, but the cold open you used to do is always a great start in my opinion..

  • @sjmuffler1
    @sjmuffler1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is some recent work done on Hannibal's crossing of the Alps. PBS - Secrets of the Dead did a full hour on it. "SECRETS OF THE DEAD
    Hannibal in the Alps". Through comparing ancient accounts and research of passages in the Alps they believe they found it. It is very compelling and definitely interesting.

  • @OldieBugger
    @OldieBugger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I still think Hannibal made a big mistake of not kicking Rome when it really was down, after Cannae. He may have been able to to conquer the Rome itself.

    • @jonpopelka
      @jonpopelka 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      **cough**SchwarzkopfBaghdad1991**cough**

  • @frankpriolo7735
    @frankpriolo7735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you done a story about Vietnam Prisoner of war Doug Hegdahl yet? That is history that needs to be remembered.

  • @phillipgathright8001
    @phillipgathright8001 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very interesting episode of PBS' Secrets of the Dead covers Hannibal's crossing of the Alps and narrows down his route.

  • @alexanderperry1844
    @alexanderperry1844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The opposing armies at Cannae faced off for a series of days before fighting. Hannibal deployed his Africans in the centre and Gauls on the wings, whilst seeing what the Romans did each day. Having decided to fight, Hannibal fed his men early and "bumped" the Romans, who hurried out and formed up unfed and without noticing that Hannibal had moved his Africans to the wings and placed the Gauls thrust forward in the centre. Hannibal knew that the Romans would fight hard and considered that the Gauls were expendable. In the event the Romans broke through the centre, but it did no good. The bulk of the army was lost.
    I prefer Ilipa, fought in Spain under Scipio. The Spanish troops were placed in the centre, but were not considered expendable. Having formed up, Scipio had the centre hang back slightly during the advance, which "fixed" the opposing troops in position whilst the Roman wings extended forward to encircle the Carthaginians, who lost.
    The culminating Battle of Zama was even more impressive, with the Romans hacking through the first two lines of Hannibal's army and then reforming in the face of the Carthaginians. (Very difficult at any time, but even more so in the Classical World.) When they were ready, the Romans advanced again and went on to encircle and hack down the veteran core of Hannibal's army.
    Ilipa was a clever strategy that achieved the same result as Cannae, but without considering part of the army to be cannon fodder, to use a modern term. This usually gives troops confidence in their commander, and makes them more willing. Zama was a result of thorough training and excellent field command, and showed how Rome would go on to conquer and rule.

    • @MarkVrem
      @MarkVrem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One big difference at Zama, Rome has a Cavalry advantage, Roman+Numidian Cavalry, vs. whatever little spoiled stay-at-home Carthaginian nobles are as a Cavalry.

  • @JimBo-ho8qw
    @JimBo-ho8qw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "He's a good boy from a good family.
    "
    "Good enough to seed a child of the Vorenii who fought at Magnesia and Zama?"

  • @jtmcgee
    @jtmcgee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even though I have read plenty and watched plenty on the Second Punic War Still gonna watch and see whatcha bring to this retelling. :)

  • @pierheadjump
    @pierheadjump 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ⚓️ Thanks HG 😎

  • @matthewpoplawski8740
    @matthewpoplawski8740 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    AS ALWAYS THE HISTORY GUY, AN EXCELLENT VIDEO!!!
    NOW, I know what Clausewitz, American Civil War generals(on both sides), and, Von Schlieffen are talking about. This battle was often used for tactical purposes. 🤔🤔🤔✌✌✌✌

  • @budahbaba7856
    @budahbaba7856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you win every battle but still lose the war? The History Guy briefly touches on this but i see it as a very important point that there was a lot of treachery back in Carthage. My theory is, there was so much side dealing going on that just plain avarice and greed became the defining factors in Hannibal's eventual demise. The Second Punic war is a situation where i think there was such jealousy internally over the personality of Hannibal, and the reluctance to interrupt their lucrative status quo, that the Carthaginian elite would betray their own civilization rather than support him against Rome. History shows that they did not appreciate what a vindictive power Rome was. Rome, after all, was the power that by their account, never engaged in a war of aggression -they had always been the imperiled party :)

  • @timmcclymont3527
    @timmcclymont3527 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woooooo! This is my kinda history. Gimme more antiquity please!

  • @khajiitkitten5679
    @khajiitkitten5679 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1--love the channel! 2--love all the goodies in the background; what a wonderful house you live in. 3--can you please tell me where to find a list of the images you use? I'd like to know about them, artists, sculptors, where they came from etc. 4--and WHERE can I get a copy of the portrait of the cat with all the medals that hangs on your wall? I WANT ONE. Thanks!

  • @alanmountain5804
    @alanmountain5804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The battle that inspired my interest in ancient history at the tender age of 13.

    • @dougreid2351
      @dougreid2351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My very wise sixth grade teacher was the one who finally taught me how to read. He took me in to the public library, showed me the history section, & checked out a book about the campaigns of Hannibal. It worked.

    • @alanmountain5804
      @alanmountain5804 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's an inspirational story

  • @phillipstoltzfus3014
    @phillipstoltzfus3014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hannibal is very interesting to learn about.

  • @steveshoemaker6347
    @steveshoemaker6347 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is a battle that is still taught at the US war collage....l know it well....Thanks for the video...!

  • @jessmarks2214
    @jessmarks2214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "What have the Romans ever done for us?".... given to military strategists a perfect use of tactical failure and associated results...Thanks!

    • @jessmarks2214
      @jessmarks2214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@imaginemyshock8067 "Yeah .. a patt from the aqueducts?" And please dont suggest "peace"..🤐🤣🤪

    • @thundercricket4634
      @thundercricket4634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jessmarks2214 Mmm.....Lots of legal concepts, Concrete, political insights, etc. xD

    • @MarkVrem
      @MarkVrem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kept the Britons down, while bringing over the Germans as security forces. Leading to the creation of the English language.

    • @robertogonzales1956
      @robertogonzales1956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can add roads and architecture

    • @jessmarks2214
      @jessmarks2214 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertogonzales1956 "Don't labour the point Reg!!"... "terrific race the Romans... terrific.."🧐😶

  • @NWTV_UK
    @NWTV_UK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for retelling the story of Cannae, but the technique of the weakened centre followed by envelopement was employed by the Greeks at Marathon some 260 years earlier and with similar devastating success.