During one of the scenes where Vasily is aiming at a German soldier, the bolt is not completely in battery, i.e. it would not fire if the bolt wasn't completely closed/locked..
Even though guns are obviously not loaded in films, sometimes they are tampered with to make ABSOLUTELY SURE that nothing can happen to any of the cast or crew. People have died on sets because of weapons mix ups in the prop weaponry department. Most recently with Alec Baldwin’s movie Rust when a crew member, Halyna Hutchins, was killed. Brandon Lee was killed on the set of the Crow due to a mistake with the prop gun being loaded with live bullets. So some films file down the firing pin, some remove the clip completely and replace it with a chunk of plastic on the bottom so it can’t carry bullets at all, some jam the hammer badly, some even weld the barrel shut. It wouldn’t surprise me if not completely attaching the bolt was done intentionally for safety. Of course it could very well be a movie mistake on behalf. They do happen pretty often.
Ok, maybe this movie is notorious for being very historically inaccurate, but it's still a great film and one of my favorites. One thing that really bothers me is that they didn't get the scope right. There are tons of photos of the real Vasily Zaytsev, and the scope on his Mosin Nagant is very different from the one in the film.
it's pretty scary how deadly accurate Snipers can be the way they control their breathing and remain absolutely still for hours. even though it's a different movie i remember watching American Sniper where he made a shot on an Insurgent that was over 2100 yards away, I've researched a lot of Snipers and found some of the most feared and deadliest Snipers in History. definitely the finest of the finest regarding Snipers training.
At 4:46, the Major could’ve put a round right through the receiver part of the Mosin, rendering it useless instead of just shooting the knife & line that was being used to try to recover it.
What’s even worse is that the Russian shot the major in his hand. Idk know if you’re familiar with with a 7.62x54r. I assume you a direct hit in the hand it’s coming off
Read some history books that the so called "sniper" school of the Soviet Red Army was only 3 days. Longer at first. The KIA rate was so bad for the Soviet forces training was an absolute minimum. Very likely in that the PU scope used on those modified Mosin-Nagant rifles was what is called a "German Post" one reticle with 3 lines in the reticle. One originating from the 6 o'clock, and, two short reticles from the 3 and 9 o'clock positions. The two reticals from the left and right sides did not touch the retical from the bottom. A very simple scope design that limits all shots to less than 250 meters. Most shots were probably around 100 meters. There were no scopes like scopes available today. There was nothing like MOA or M-rads adjustments. Nothing to allow measured adjustment of wind. Coriolis Effect was an unknown concept during the WW-2 era and prior years. Very simple technology.
"Italian scientist Giovanni Battista Riccioli and his assistant Francesco Maria Grimaldi described the effect in connection with artillery in the 1651 Almagestum Novum, writing that rotation of the Earth should cause a cannonball fired to the north to deflect to the east." If not the snipers, then the artillerymen would know, though.
Very wrong. They were very well trained, also had female snipers. Ludmillah Pavlenko ( not sure of the spelling ) was ome of the top Russian snipers of ww2.
A shot to the hand with that high caliber rifle that kraut would have lost that hand, every bone shattered if not completely blown off. Instead Hollywood makes it look like he got shot with a pellet gun.
This amercian using kraut, it's already clear he acts like he knows something whilst knowing absolutely nothing. But as soon as you read his comment you see he has no idea what he's talking about. Poor little Brandon.
I love how this movie walks the tightrope of 1) Not letting the nazis of the hook even as portraying the soviets as absolutely insane 2) Giving our heroes some humanity even as they fight for another fucked up government. 3) Making the story honest and depressing but still exciting enough to keep us staying for the spectacle and wanting to see if our protagonist makes it through.
This movie is entertaining, but it's nothing more than anti-communist propaganda, pure made up nonsense and gross distortions of what happened in Stalingrad, and how the Soviet Union waged the war.
I can't imagine that gun is firing a subsonic round, the dude getting shot in the head right next to another guy and no body hearing it just immediately shattered my suspension of disbelief.
I mean, they're at a warzone, gunfire is everywhere all the time. Paying attention to where every gunshot is from is too much. It's also morning and there is a lot of rustling about as people get ready, a loud thud as a body hits the floor next to you mught be misunderstood as just someome opening a box aggressively.
@robe asd Right but the crack of a sonic boom isn't something you're going to be used to hearing and you absolutely wouldn't be tuning it out. Both shots are pretty damn close. The guy holding the hat next to the first fatality absolutely would have shit himself the moment he heard it and everyone would be alerted. For the second pair of soldiers, they were so close that unless the smoker was deaf, his reaction would have been immediate and he definitely would have had a decent idea where the shot had just came from because y'know, dead friend + sonic boom + very close gunshot all happening at the same time probably indicates some causation between them. It's clear that whoever put this scene together simply was either not aware that 7.62 (and just about any rifle round) breaks the sound barrier. It's Hollywood shlock and that's fine as long as no one is taking it seriously.
@@Animal.CUT... From what I understand if Russia had a subsonic round that could possibly be chambered in place of a 7.62 they didn't have one until 1941, about a year before Stalingrad which I assume the movie takes place in. If that's the case I'm not finding any evidence that it was used during the battle and obviously even less so that it was being utilized in unsuppressed rifles. Needless to say, I don't think that's something being taken into account in this scene. Open to being wrong but so far I'm totally unconvinced.
It really IS a sniper scene. Snipers rely on making close to zero noise, not being noticed, and still being deadly effective. He took the time to aim, get the shot noise covered, and survived.
@@talan7503 There’s certain distance that requires one to be considered legitimately a sniper. That range from the fountain was close. It looked like it was 50 to 60 yards. Regardless if he used iron sights or a scope. I don’t consider that sniping.
Definition of sniper noun. a rifleman who fires from a concealed place, esp a military marksman who fires from cover usually at long ranges at individual enemy soldiers.
It’s kinda funny/odd how influential this movie has been despite not being a particularly popular movie at the time. Even in retrospect, it might have a particular “charm” of movies from the late 90s-early 20s, but it’s not like it’s a hidden masterpiece. It’s not a super artistic or niche film that was telling a compelling story that was “ahead of its time”. Say for example a movie like Equilibrium or even Demolition Man (which was well liked, but the story/setting resonates more now).
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During one of the scenes where Vasily is aiming at a German soldier, the bolt is not completely in battery, i.e. it would not fire if the bolt wasn't completely closed/locked..
Even though guns are obviously not loaded in films, sometimes they are tampered with to make ABSOLUTELY SURE that nothing can happen to any of the cast or crew. People have died on sets because of weapons mix ups in the prop weaponry department. Most recently with Alec Baldwin’s movie Rust when a crew member, Halyna Hutchins, was killed. Brandon Lee was killed on the set of the Crow due to a mistake with the prop gun being loaded with live bullets.
So some films file down the firing pin, some remove the clip completely and replace it with a chunk of plastic on the bottom so it can’t carry bullets at all, some jam the hammer badly, some even weld the barrel shut. It wouldn’t surprise me if not completely attaching the bolt was done intentionally for safety. Of course it could very well be a movie mistake on behalf. They do happen pretty often.
Ask Alec Baldwin why the guns are left in non-operating conditions on movie sets, it is not a damn range.
I did notice that too,but after Alec Baldwin ,well you get the idea
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This is enemy at the gates, chief. Nobody is here for realism.
Ok, maybe this movie is notorious for being very historically inaccurate, but it's still a great film and one of my favorites. One thing that really bothers me is that they didn't get the scope right. There are tons of photos of the real Vasily Zaytsev, and the scope on his Mosin Nagant is very different from the one in the film.
Classic ! Best sniper film in the history
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it's pretty scary how deadly accurate Snipers can be the way they control their breathing and remain absolutely still for hours. even though it's a different movie i remember watching American Sniper where he made a shot on an Insurgent that was over 2100 yards away, I've researched a lot of Snipers and found some of the most feared and deadliest Snipers in History. definitely the finest of the finest regarding Snipers training.
call of duty, world at war. we never forget.
wtf world at war was from pacific. you mean cod1 or 2
@@Prototypekk i mean call of duty WaW has that mission that is an exact replica of this senario
The Germans would use pow’s to string wire just in case there was a sniper
At 4:46, the Major could’ve put a round right through the receiver part of the Mosin, rendering it useless instead of just shooting the knife & line that was being used to try to recover it.
he wanted the challenge
Destroying the weapon means Vasily has no need to expose himself for it anymore.
needed the weapon as bait in order to kill his target.
Then Vasily would have no reason to expose himself, and he could just wait out the Major or have his buddy get backup on said Major's position
What’s even worse is that the Russian shot the major in his hand. Idk know if you’re familiar with with a 7.62x54r. I assume you a direct hit in the hand it’s coming off
One of the best sniper movies in my opinion. Classic
@5:46 is why simo häyhä never uses a scope..
He lived until December 12th of 1991,the last to be buried with full honors under the soviet flag.
I read in the Sven Hassell books that Mongolian Red Army troops were much feared....
I'm from Stalingrad... Great film.
You mean Volgograd?
@@ArcticWolf00Alpha0 Yes it
Read some history books that the so called "sniper" school of the Soviet Red Army was only 3 days. Longer at first. The KIA rate was so bad for the Soviet forces training was an absolute minimum.
Very likely in that the PU scope used on those modified Mosin-Nagant rifles was what is called a "German Post" one reticle with 3 lines in the reticle. One originating from the 6 o'clock, and, two short reticles from the 3 and 9 o'clock positions. The two reticals from the left and right sides did not touch the retical from the bottom. A very simple scope design that limits all shots to less than 250 meters. Most shots were probably around 100 meters.
There were no scopes like scopes available today. There was nothing like MOA or M-rads adjustments. Nothing to allow measured adjustment of wind. Coriolis Effect was an unknown concept during the WW-2 era and prior years. Very simple technology.
"Italian scientist Giovanni Battista Riccioli and his assistant Francesco Maria Grimaldi described the effect in connection with artillery in the 1651 Almagestum Novum, writing that rotation of the Earth should cause a cannonball fired to the north to deflect to the east."
If not the snipers, then the artillerymen would know, though.
Very wrong. They were very well trained, also had female snipers. Ludmillah Pavlenko ( not sure of the spelling ) was ome of the top Russian snipers of ww2.
A shot to the hand with that high caliber rifle that kraut would have lost that hand, every bone shattered if not completely blown off.
Instead Hollywood makes it look like he got shot with a pellet gun.
The bullet looked like it just barely grazed the skin, his hand would have been fine. At most he would have lost a finger.
It called movie not document
This amercian using kraut, it's already clear he acts like he knows something whilst knowing absolutely nothing. But as soon as you read his comment you see he has no idea what he's talking about. Poor little Brandon.
I love how this movie walks the tightrope of
1) Not letting the nazis of the hook even as portraying the soviets as absolutely insane
2) Giving our heroes some humanity even as they fight for another fucked up government.
3) Making the story honest and depressing but still exciting enough to keep us staying for the spectacle and wanting to see if our protagonist makes it through.
This movie is entertaining, but it's nothing more than anti-communist propaganda, pure made up nonsense and gross distortions of what happened in Stalingrad, and how the Soviet Union waged the war.
Well said
"every sniper scene from Enemy At The Gates".......shows entire feature length 😅
Poor kalmuk guy killed by König
Hand would have been BLOWN OFF by a hit from a 7.62x54mm round
And yet another armchair firearm expert on TH-cam who propably thinks he's that special. *sigh*.
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Fill the burn then you hear the bang .
Let's go take a shower at the front lines! Ow, my head!
I can't imagine that gun is firing a subsonic round, the dude getting shot in the head right next to another guy and no body hearing it just immediately shattered my suspension of disbelief.
I mean, they're at a warzone, gunfire is everywhere all the time. Paying attention to where every gunshot is from is too much. It's also morning and there is a lot of rustling about as people get ready, a loud thud as a body hits the floor next to you mught be misunderstood as just someome opening a box aggressively.
@robe asd Right but the crack of a sonic boom isn't something you're going to be used to hearing and you absolutely wouldn't be tuning it out. Both shots are pretty damn close. The guy holding the hat next to the first fatality absolutely would have shit himself the moment he heard it and everyone would be alerted. For the second pair of soldiers, they were so close that unless the smoker was deaf, his reaction would have been immediate and he definitely would have had a decent idea where the shot had just came from because y'know, dead friend + sonic boom + very close gunshot all happening at the same time probably indicates some causation between them.
It's clear that whoever put this scene together simply was either not aware that 7.62 (and just about any rifle round) breaks the sound barrier. It's Hollywood shlock and that's fine as long as no one is taking it seriously.
subsonic round :))))) Russia followed suit in 1908, adopting a 148gr pointed bullet loaded to 2800fps from the 31.5” barrel.
@@Animal.CUT... From what I understand if Russia had a subsonic round that could possibly be chambered in place of a 7.62 they didn't have one until 1941, about a year before Stalingrad which I assume the movie takes place in. If that's the case I'm not finding any evidence that it was used during the battle and obviously even less so that it was being utilized in unsuppressed rifles. Needless to say, I don't think that's something being taken into account in this scene.
Open to being wrong but so far I'm totally unconvinced.
I think he was timing it with the artillery blasts to drown out his gunshot.
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The first one really isn’t a sniper scene. But it still displayed his marksmanship. So that’s relevant of course. And a cool scene.
It really IS a sniper scene. Snipers rely on making close to zero noise, not being noticed, and still being deadly effective. He took the time to aim, get the shot noise covered, and survived.
being a sniper does not always mean a scope and 12x zoom. Hitting head-shots with open-sights still takes sniper-level skill and control.
@@talan7503 There’s certain distance that requires one to be considered legitimately a sniper. That range from the fountain was close. It looked like it was 50 to 60 yards. Regardless if he used iron sights or a scope. I don’t consider that sniping.
Definition of sniper
noun. a rifleman who fires from a concealed place, esp a military marksman who fires from cover usually at long ranges at individual enemy soldiers.
Usually from a distance but the emphasis is on concealed. range is not what makes them snipers but of course its a plus
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4:45 show off
Best scene of the movie.
Has 2 look at gun 2 unload it. I was rased hunting. I. Dont hav 2 look
All tho this movie is interesting, it's not realistic and not historically true
The battle between Zaitcev and Major König was true.
@@cjSamuil But not the part where they run into enemy lines with little guns and ammo, every Soviet soldier had a weapons
Major's rifle is the most beautiful Mauser K98 rifle I have seen .
Mister lv seen better.
@@chrisparbe1077 thanks for correcting me .
Germans : We don't need snipers, no need with blitzkreg.
Russians : Bet you do now Hans lol. Fear us.
One Finnish Sniper boi : Armatures...
Could you be anymore cringe? What a gruesome unfunny cringy torture of a person. And the cherry on top is liking one's own comment.
russians were using wave attacks during that war and were mostly out in the open.
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It’s kinda funny/odd how influential this movie has been despite not being a particularly popular movie at the time.
Even in retrospect, it might have a particular “charm” of movies from the late 90s-early 20s, but it’s not like it’s a hidden masterpiece. It’s not a super artistic or niche film that was telling a compelling story that was “ahead of its time”. Say for example a movie like Equilibrium or even Demolition Man (which was well liked, but the story/setting resonates more now).
An absolutely stacked cast though
* Jude Law
* Rachel Weisz
* Joseph Fiennes
* Bob Hoskins
* Ed Harris
* Ron Pearlman
Ironic, this is happening in Ukraine now but it is Russia who is the invader.
The same song and dance, just different partners
And Russians are now Christians relieving ukraine from jews then it was russian jews oppressing ukranian Christians
@@PanzerCrewman I don't see any Christians...Can you name any as I sure as heck can't. Name some of these "Christians" that are "Liberating" Ukraine.
@@joycekoch5746 Orthodox Christian Vladimir Putin
@@PanzerCrewman It takes more than a sprinkle of water to make one a Christian.
Love the white blood.
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Rank NATO/NAZI propaganda ofc, but rather enjoyable nonetheless.