After owning the 12-22 for 2 years I'd say your assessment of both splitters is spot on. I would consider an Axis for my next splitter. I like the stake pockets on the Axis. Would be easier to move with a set of forks. Also would think the Axis would be a little better on fuel as well having the smaller engine. I already have a 24' Conveyor so I wouldn't bother with the short conveyor.
Very interesting comparison Adam. Either splitter is better than my current one, the only problem it would reduce my splitting time to much and my wife would try and drag me off to the shops, I need a slow splitter.
You need to get some firewood bag and sack up that kindling and throw a sack or two in with each delivery. It’s a win, win wood yard is clean your giving them a bonus they’ll appreciate the smaller pieces for fire starter. Good video.
Hi Adam, looking at the axis but I'm thinking of going without conveyor or log lift. Your observation that the conveyor reduces flow to the splitter supports that decision. The reason is that I will be feeding my table with a tractor (forks) and elevating my splitter on a platform so that the totes are just below the table (so just slide off the table and fall in the tote). I also want to try moving the wood from left to right if I find that easier or switch back and forth. Thanks for the info.
Good discussion. I like your term "Firewood OCD" with getting the perfect 6 splits on the 16-inch diameter pieces. haha I do the same on my residential Troy-Bilt splitter. It's so satisfying to get 2 nice splits on the log, roll the whole thing 90 degrees, get 2 more splits, and then throw the entire "chunk" of 9 split pieces into the woodshed!!! I feel like a freaking BOSS! haha
Hey Adam, Al here from my Hemlock Homestead. Once again a "great" no nonsense video. You bring up points I never thought of but make perfect sense. I would go with the Axis all the way. The higher work station is a game changer and will keep you splitting wood for many years to come. Congrats on the youtube recognition also. It is well deserved my friend.
I was thinking about this the other day while editing my next video. They both have their pros and cons. One con for me with the Axis is that it can't do 24" rounds that I know of. My boiler can take up to 30" sticks, so the longer the better for me. I do like the precision it has though. If the stroke was longer, it would be almost perfect. But as for a commercial splitter, I just don't think my firewood usage requires a commercial splitter. I'm only using 6-8 cord a year. I can easily do that and enjoy it with my cheap homeowner splitter. Good video, Adam!
What a great video on the pros & cons of each machine. In reality, they are as different as chalk and cheese and both could be used side by side for the different types of firewood you need to process, if you had the manpower on hand of course. Good one Adam.
Thanks, Adam. This was an outstanding comparison. I've wondered about your thoughts having had both. Thinking about the horizontal setup, I've always seen the ONLY benefit of most box-store units is that the wedge is on the cylinder. So if a piece does get stuck, like you say, you can use the cylinder return to help dislodge the wedge from the wood. But, in all the box-store units I've seen, this is a single wedge, and cycle times are s. . . l. . . o. . .w.
Adam, thanks for the very thorough review of both of these machines. I have appreciated the information you have shared in your views. Right now for me any machine with a log lift would be an improvement.
Thanks Adam - good overview of the differences. I think, similar to what I have found over the last few years and trying out several splitters, is that the differences or designs of each style, becomes a pro or a con as perceived by the user and their specific needs and setup. There are so many options and designs available now that folks have to really think about what features or options make the most sense for them. Thanks for sharing - good video. Cheers!
Really like your channel. You and back 40 are the best. If you’re loading a ibc tote and you know you’re going to stack it. Why not split wood into it till you get enough in it to straighten out then split more and just keep doing that until it’s filled. Thanks for your channel.
That was very informative Adam!! Very interesting on the comparison of both!! Iam looking at getting a new splitter in the near future so I had some of my own questions answered. Stay safe my friend!!
Good video ! Very informative as usual. I like the axis for your application, plus the fact of you being so tall leaning over a machine will definitely take a toll on your back. It’s all hard work , I don’t care how you do it.thanks for sharing ! Be careful and stay safe!
Great video Adam. Well thought out and explained. I couldn’t agree more. For your needs the Axis is exactly what you need. Once production ramps up I can see you with a 16’ extension conveyor to extend out the time you need to stack the wood in the containers. My former neighbour had one that would also pivot on its axis and the mound of firewood that could be piled without moving the splitter was incredible. Stay safe
Another great video 👍 Have you ever considered an inexpensive double car port? Mounted on some skids so as it's weighted down to aid against wind lift but ridged enough to drag around. It will protect you and the splitter. Keep the videos coming. Your doing great! Love the content.
When you bought your wood stove for the garage, I'm sure the company you bought from upcharged you for that custom blower you've got there!! I like it. If I ever get a wood stove in a shop, that looks to be a great idea
Great breakdown on the pros and cons of both units. I think you made the right call as it’s pretty clear to me that you can do precision splits with the larger unit and that makes a huge difference when you are focused on bundled wood. Good call!
I agree it's all about what you want out of your splitter and man power. I disagree on the smaller 7 foot conveyor loading a dump trailer or any trailer. Just set things up where your loading trailer from the side and just pull forward a couple times. Plus side of that your truck and trailer is close to you so you got a wind break during cold weather.
From what I've seen, and based on my many years of splitting wood, just for my own use, I would go with the 12-22 machine. Reason....all the different shapes of wood burn better. Plus I like all the kindling those type of machines provide. Great fire in stove.
Adam, you are setting the standard on how to review/compare machines.... I just picked up my 12-22 last week and you are spot on. Had a factory tour of the Eastonmade Plant with Andrew himself... nothing but good things to say !!!
I hate leaving equipment outside. The only thing I would change on axis is the conveyor I would get a separate one.but your are pretty spot on with both machines great video
I just put my deposit down on a 12-22. If you are taking video request I would love to see a business plan. I'm trying to put one together in excel. Since you are an accountant I'm sure your number are way better than mine. Thanks
Super glad you made this video and also the one entitled 'Ultimate woodspitter showdown'.... I've a super nice ($12k) log splitter with a box wedge as well as a 12x wedge. Its great, the 12x is awesome and super fast for hardwood but I utilize the box wedge for pine only due to the tremendous mess it makes, all good cuz the perfect squares make for awesome bundles. All that said, im really interested in that Axis, it may be much slower than what i have but when you consider the 'manual' cleanup (as ive no skid steer) it equals out. Seriously considering selling my $12k splitter and following your lead.
I have not used an Axis, would be interesting to try it, but I'd like to defend the 12-22. "Working height": if you are a tall guy, park the machine up on a couple blocks of 2x12's. I'm 6ft, no issues using it as is. "Garbage in, garbage out"; Drop the 4-way wedge down to make it a single wedge and you have +20 tons of splitting capability. "Outdoor elements"; Ours stay out in the field, rain, sleet, snow. Simply keep the engine covered with a tarp and bungee, and retract the cylinders. "Precision" and "Quality"; we re-split to remove punky, rotten sections. Easy to do using the top of the 4-way. It all comes down to preference of machine. And while I have not seen how the axis splits a crooked cut block of wood on a cold winter day, does it slip on the table I wonder? Not an issue with the 12-22.
I started using a dremel to sharpen my chainsaw blades I really love it. Enjoy your videos I don’t typically make comments. Fellow Kioti. Owner. Great machines.
Nice video Adam comparing the two machines! I agree if your a bundle wood maker the axis is the way to go and if your a volume producer 12-22 all the way!
All good points Adam, I'm thinking can't go wrong either way. That Axis sure puts out consistent splits, but I'm also a big fan of the box wedge as well. Take care brother.
Great video. We use a modified tw5 splitter with auto cycle that is like a trailer. Wood just gets pushed out the back with an axle under the table grate and towed from the front. Very portable. I found a 4 way wedge at about 4-5” high is a perfect setting for our purposes. Ours is fixed and doesn’t move. It makes nice smaller pieces and then you get some larger ones too which are good for overnight in stoves. If the top 2 quarters are too large split them again and it’s perfect. Very little trash but still some. It takes about 10 minutes to toss wood into a ibc tote and fill it for that’s that didn’t know.
Before I even hear this, I'm saying heck no, for your operation it's perfect...let's see. Yeah, I would have been very surprised otherwise. The number one thing for me as a sole operator most of the time is not chasing my wood! Wedge has to be on the cylinder for that to happen. I also hear you on the firewood OCD; it gets to the point where I "read" the wood as I'm splitting, where I have to split it to still end up with nice sticks of wood even with the grain running out a branch inclusion.
Like you opinion on both log splitters, as Andrew says the same spitter is not for everyone, I would still get the Axis, gets better quality less kindling. You made the right choice my friend keep safe
A well thorough job of comparing the two machines! If money wasn't an option, would you have kept both machines? Or would you go with a big processor. What are the plans for the future? Saw the sawmill and a kiln. Would you eventually get away from your full time job? What sawmill would you be looking at? I thought about getting a woodmizer. Right now i take logs to a friend of mine. I accumulated enough logs that i had milled to be able to build my Garage and a second story mancave. Nice video Adam! Thanks for sharing this!
excellent comparison. From what I've observed, I think I'd appreciate the taller work surface more than anything. And you're taller than me, so I'm sure thats a big one for you!
Age and height are a very big deal. The first splitter i helped out with i was on my knees and the hell with that! I stuckbwith hand splittin because i still got a workout, but didnt have to bendover so much. What's great about now is guys can see what might work better for them. At 6'5 myself and 61 my whole body might be in better shape if i had known how a splitter would be less wear and tear AND MORE WOOD in less time spent. Glad to see youngsters being smart.
hi there you do a real good job with your videos. speak well and clear so the content comes threw well also .you also made a lot of good points witch one i kind of try to get across don't get a splitter for the 5% (mega ton ) of your splitting . maybe you should go into broadcasting as a second career . john
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Adam I was wondering if you could do a video on your Holzfforma 372 carb adjustment? I recently ordered a Farmertec 372 because of your earlier video. I should have it in 3-4 more weeks and I remember you mentioning it needs carb adjustments. Thanks and keep making those firewood videos! I love them!
Very good summation of both machines. Bottom line is if you work alone, and how much control do yo want for sizing the wood. I think you got it right. Bad news is Eastonmade has a 1 year backlog - and they do not have any dealers in the US. I called them a few days ago. They talked about a possible raffle for one of their machines but there may be too much red tape for them to do it from a legal standpoint.
A really great comparison, initially didn’t think much of the axis unit. But, realizing I’ll probably be working alone when I do, it makes complete sense. I noticed the other day, that they’re now advertising it with an 8 foot conveyor which should help a little bit better performance. Definitely seems to be cleaner so to speak. Also, having firewood OCD, too, I do like the extra control over size of the firewood. Seems like less effort is required. Thanks for an honest comparison.
Very true! It all depends on the person and what they use it for. I’ve seen the Champion 27 ton splitter reviews and looks great for the average homeowner. It’s only $1,000 as well. Not a mass production machine, but still could easily split a few extra chords for sale each year.
I was viewing the narrow wedge as a disadvantage because you have to drive it further for a split. but with that little force on the ram, I understand it.
Great vid. I love Andrew's splitters. On your stove, raise the box fan up a foot or more. The cold air in the room will get pulled to the stove instead of being pushed away.
Yet another very well thought out,informative and very helpful video. If we could get four other fire wood prossesor websites to hire you to do their videos, you could have yet another ancillary income :) Now if you tell us that you are performing the background music as well in a basement sound booth, you will be getting Emmy nominations :) Congratulations on a very entertaining , informative and pleasurable y.t. site.
I use a chain with a grab hook to pull a stuck peice off the wedge. Make sure its at least grade 70 or better 3/8" chain. The tall pusher is perfect for back pulling.
Have you thought about buying or building a box bin/box bin farm trailer for your forks on your tractor, use your conveyor to load it then just put it in your shop where you have your bundler. then place a few empty IBS totes in there then fill them. Also look at building a pole barn/shop around where the splitter is, you could make it open sided and as tall as you want. Or just start with a pole barn roof(high enough to get your tractor and splitter in and out.
Love your analytical analysis! You exposed me to a better way of splitting firewood. Still wondering why you don’t use the bottom and sides of the IBC tote tanks. Marcus from Chesapeake VA.
i was looking on advices for what kind on splitter to build myself for a minimum of production. since im an arborist and handle big rounds i think an upright is the way to go. my little cheap 26t towable style is so hard on the back 😬 working at the proper height seem way better 😍 thanks adam 🤟🤟
Love your videos, just started getting curious in this area. Question is, wouldn’t a push plate be better long term for the machine since when it hits knots the plate disperses the weight?
Great video I do 10000 bundle a year had a buitrite with auto cycle 6 way your right about waste. Don't by logs anymore so I went with a supersplit but if I do logs again will get axis
Adam: The Axis Is one of the best one trick pony I have every seen! With a two stage pump it has one of the fastest cycle times. The one inch width blade makes for better & precise cuts. I'm waiting for the day one one pop's up on the used market. I have the 9-16 and we love it.
I've seen in your videos with the Axis that when you get the ideal size log it cuts precision size chunks. Have you ever considered bringing out your wrapper and having your dad or someone else wrap those ideal logs after they've been split? It would save 1 or 2 steps handling the wood. Cut ,split, wrap, stack. Compared to cut, split, stack, move tote to wrapper, wrap, stack. One down fall I suppose to consider is you'd have more wood in the bundles if you wrapped in log form. I've seen anywhere from 8 or 9 pieces to 10 or 11 depending on the size of the split wood. With a 16"ish log still round and split, wrapped you'd have 12 to 16 pieces. But it would be a really clean look.
I feel it's not how good it looks but rather how well it burns when your dealing with bundled wood. You have to keep the campers happy so they come back for more!
So I’m looking to buy a 12-22 when the time comes for that would it make sense to get all three wedge options so I can maximize output. Like for the 18+ the box might be better and the smaller the 6 and for the huge stuff the 4 or small stuff that just needs to be halved. I’ve also considered offering mobile processing of log piles for people that don’t want to pay for the cost of splitting and delivery. I think the 12-22 is a better option for me for this and my end goal is to have full log processor, kiln heat treater. I could still keep this if big amaryllis logs show up.
You can convert that Honda GX to electric start ($130 parts kit on Ebay)....and order them new with it. I guess Easton is having such a hard time getting Honda engines at all, they just went with the pull start. Funny thing.....I built my splitter (using a older 3pt tractor hitch model for the basis) and put a Tecumseh 8hp engine on it originally. Well, after about 15 yrs of putting up with that sorry rebuid-the-carb-every-other-year piece of junk, I finally bought a Honda GX240 and put on it. I ordered it with electric start.....and have never used it ! It can sit 6 months (I just split for me) and will start easily on the first/second pull. Honda is such a great engine.
I've been cutting and splitting 6 cords per year for nearly fifty years. I wouldn't trade my 12-22 for anything. But then again I am a "git 'er done" firewood user. I don't care how pretty it looks, only how good it burns. :-)) Shalom/gw
I would want that elevator mike has cause I don't like pissing with the wood again.love the auto return.that's sweet.but I think if you put a stainless steel chute on the top it would let it shoot out to the center.
I loved watching them both but was wondering....do you have a video of how you bundle wood for camp fires????? Would really like to see that in action!!!!!!!!
i am looking for pros and cons on the 28 ton swisher splitter i ask because it is local if its a good product i will save shipping and go with that i as yet dont own a trailer to haul such an item thanks so much and as mike says Have a day
Oh boy I am about to pull the trigger on a 5-11 or 9-16 with a box wedge but I do have OCD with getting the splits right....how do you feel about the box wedge splits vs what the axis produces? It seems the axis is more consistent if you are? I am going from an old TW-P1 so any of these are way more productive for me.
Damn it. I keep watching your channel about log splitting. And you just keep adding expensive things to my “wants & needs” list. I don’t even sell firewood. I’m just a homesteader. But I figured since I’m getting a bandsaw mill. Might as well get a log splitter. I just have a hard time buying inferior products. Which isn’t the best move on my end fiscally. I’ve rented one of those splitters that looks like it came from Tractor supply or Home Cheapo. And it was frustrating as all hell.
What is the cost difference? Does the Axis use less fuel having a smaller engine? As for a place to keep it, build a shed over it and the same for your sawmill.
Dont know if I could have said it better myself adam. Really appreciate all you do for us!!!
The conveyor belt is sweet. I don't need a splitter, just a very long belt haha
After owning the 12-22 for 2 years I'd say your assessment of both splitters is spot on. I would consider an Axis for my next splitter. I like the stake pockets on the Axis. Would be easier to move with a set of forks. Also would think the Axis would be a little better on fuel as well having the smaller engine. I already have a 24' Conveyor so I wouldn't bother with the short conveyor.
Very interesting comparison Adam. Either splitter is better than my current one, the only problem it would reduce my splitting time to much and my wife would try and drag me off to the shops, I need a slow splitter.
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You need to get some firewood bag and sack up that kindling and throw a sack or two in with each delivery. It’s a win, win wood yard is clean your giving them a bonus they’ll appreciate the smaller pieces for fire starter. Good video.
if he's selling in bundles, he should have been using the kindling to fill out the bundle.
Hi Adam, looking at the axis but I'm thinking of going without conveyor or log lift. Your observation that the conveyor reduces flow to the splitter supports that decision. The reason is that I will be feeding my table with a tractor (forks) and elevating my splitter on a platform so that the totes are just below the table (so just slide off the table and fall in the tote). I also want to try moving the wood from left to right if I find that easier or switch back and forth. Thanks for the info.
Your making me appreciate my vertical single wedge log splitter more and more throughout the video lol.
Good discussion.
I like your term "Firewood OCD" with getting the perfect 6 splits on the 16-inch diameter pieces. haha
I do the same on my residential Troy-Bilt splitter. It's so satisfying to get 2 nice splits on the log, roll the whole thing 90 degrees, get 2 more splits, and then throw the entire "chunk" of 9 split pieces into the woodshed!!! I feel like a freaking BOSS! haha
Hey Adam, Al here from my Hemlock Homestead. Once again a "great" no nonsense video. You bring up points I never thought of but make perfect sense. I would go with the Axis all the way. The higher work station is a game changer and will keep you splitting wood for many years to come. Congrats on the youtube recognition also. It is well deserved my friend.
I was thinking about this the other day while editing my next video. They both have their pros and cons. One con for me with the Axis is that it can't do 24" rounds that I know of. My boiler can take up to 30" sticks, so the longer the better for me. I do like the precision it has though. If the stroke was longer, it would be almost perfect. But as for a commercial splitter, I just don't think my firewood usage requires a commercial splitter. I'm only using 6-8 cord a year. I can easily do that and enjoy it with my cheap homeowner splitter. Good video, Adam!
Appreciate your videos your comments your thought processes you’re very direct and to the point thank you
What a great video on the pros & cons of each machine. In reality, they are as different as chalk and cheese and both could be used side by side for the different types of firewood you need to process, if you had the manpower on hand of course. Good one Adam.
Thanks, Adam. This was an outstanding comparison. I've wondered about your thoughts having had both.
Thinking about the horizontal setup, I've always seen the ONLY benefit of most box-store units is that the wedge is on the cylinder. So if a piece does get stuck, like you say, you can use the cylinder return to help dislodge the wedge from the wood. But, in all the box-store units I've seen, this is a single wedge, and cycle times are s. . . l. . . o. . .w.
Adam, thanks for the very thorough review of both of these machines. I have appreciated the information you have shared in your views. Right now for me any machine with a log lift would be an improvement.
Adam, great commentary, love the professionalism that you take to present your videos. I don't split a lot, but you sold me on both!
Thanks Adam - good overview of the differences. I think, similar to what I have found over the last few years and trying out several splitters, is that the differences or designs of each style, becomes a pro or a con as perceived by the user and their specific needs and setup. There are so many options and designs available now that folks have to really think about what features or options make the most sense for them. Thanks for sharing - good video. Cheers!
GP, the best splitter to have is the one that comes with '2 young Bucks!' LOL
LOL! Cheers Adam!
Really like your channel. You and back 40 are the best.
If you’re loading a ibc tote and you know you’re going to stack it. Why not split wood into it till you get enough in it to straighten out then split more and just keep doing that until it’s filled.
Thanks for your channel.
That was very informative Adam!! Very interesting on the comparison of both!! Iam looking at getting a new splitter in the near future so I had some of my own questions answered. Stay safe my friend!!
Good video ! Very informative as usual. I like the axis for your application, plus the fact of you being so tall leaning over a machine will definitely take a toll on your back. It’s all hard work , I don’t care how you do it.thanks for sharing ! Be careful and stay safe!
Great comparison Adam! Man I would love to try running an Axis type vertical splitter I’m jealous of that wood OCD, those splits come out perfect!
Great video Adam. Well thought out and explained. I couldn’t agree more. For your needs the Axis is exactly what you need. Once production ramps up I can see you with a 16’ extension conveyor to extend out the time you need to stack the wood in the containers. My former neighbour had one that would also pivot on its axis and the mound of firewood that could be piled without moving the splitter was incredible.
Stay safe
Very thorough review! Thank you very much! This will help me in the future if I decide to upgrade!
Another great video 👍
Have you ever considered an inexpensive double car port? Mounted on some skids so as it's weighted down to aid against wind lift but ridged enough to drag around. It will protect you and the splitter. Keep the videos coming. Your doing great! Love the content.
When you bought your wood stove for the garage, I'm sure the company you bought from upcharged you for that custom blower you've got there!! I like it. If I ever get a wood stove in a shop, that looks to be a great idea
Haha yeah just make sure you have enough clearance to put the fan behind it. Works a lot better than those built in blowers
WOW, you opened NYU eyes to something I did not even think about. I dreamt about the 9-16 & 12-22 but now I’ll revisit the axis. Thanks.
I'm sure its been said before, but I / we really appreciate how you organize your thoughts, and stay on topic. Great job
Great breakdown on the pros and cons of both units. I think you made the right call as it’s pretty clear to me that you can do precision splits with the larger unit and that makes a huge difference when you are focused on bundled wood. Good call!
Thank you for this video..... I’ve been contemplating on what type of splitter to get, and the Axis sounds like the way to go. 👍🏻
I agree it's all about what you want out of your splitter and man power.
I disagree on the smaller 7 foot conveyor loading a dump trailer or any trailer. Just set things up where your loading trailer from the side and just pull forward a couple times. Plus side of that your truck and trailer is close to you so you got a wind break during cold weather.
I think I need that Axis with the conveyor. We’re all tall here so that higher table looks ideal. Thanks for the vid
Getting a visit from Mike Morgan can really help a channel. Congratulations on being On the Move.
Thank you Adam, excellent video. I am interested in learning your viewpoint on ROI. I think many of us struggle with thoughts on this. Ray
Gday Adam, Excellent video filled with Great Information. Well Presented. Keep up the Good Work. Thanks, Tony👍🇦🇺🇦🇺
Just wanted to say thanks , just started my only channel and I’ve learned a lot from yours..
From what I've seen, and based on my many years of splitting wood, just for my own use, I would go with the 12-22 machine. Reason....all the different shapes of wood burn better. Plus I like all the kindling those type of machines provide. Great fire in stove.
Adam, you are setting the standard on how to review/compare machines.... I just picked up my 12-22 last week and you are spot on. Had a factory tour of the Eastonmade Plant with Andrew himself... nothing but good things to say !!!
Thank you
That was a GREAT presentation explaining the two machines. I am sure if someone was looking to purchase a splitter this was beneficial.
Hey, Adam I am finally saved enough up to buy 1 of your shirts. I am so happy
I hope you love it Davin
Great video Adam. You should get your channel ISO 9001 registered. Lol. The information and quality is exceptional 👌
I hate leaving equipment outside. The only thing I would change on axis is the conveyor I would get a separate one.but your are pretty spot on with both machines great video
Both great machines! You can't really go wrong!
Great video. I have been trying to decide which one to get. Thanks your video was very helpful.
I just put my deposit down on a 12-22. If you are taking video request I would love to see a business plan. I'm trying to put one together in excel. Since you are an accountant I'm sure your number are way better than mine. Thanks
Super glad you made this video and also the one entitled 'Ultimate woodspitter showdown'....
I've a super nice ($12k) log splitter with a box wedge as well as a 12x wedge. Its great, the 12x is awesome and super fast for hardwood but I utilize the box wedge for pine only due to the tremendous mess it makes, all good cuz the perfect squares make for awesome bundles.
All that said, im really interested in that Axis, it may be much slower than what i have but when you consider the 'manual' cleanup (as ive no skid steer) it equals out.
Seriously considering selling my $12k splitter and following your lead.
I have not used an Axis, would be interesting to try it, but I'd like to defend the 12-22. "Working height": if you are a tall guy, park the machine up on a couple blocks of 2x12's. I'm 6ft, no issues using it as is. "Garbage in, garbage out"; Drop the 4-way wedge down to make it a single wedge and you have +20 tons of splitting capability. "Outdoor elements"; Ours stay out in the field, rain, sleet, snow. Simply keep the engine covered with a tarp and bungee, and retract the cylinders. "Precision" and "Quality"; we re-split to remove punky, rotten sections. Easy to do using the top of the 4-way. It all comes down to preference of machine. And while I have not seen how the axis splits a crooked cut block of wood on a cold winter day, does it slip on the table I wonder? Not an issue with the 12-22.
I started using a dremel to sharpen my chainsaw blades I really love it. Enjoy your videos I don’t typically make comments. Fellow Kioti. Owner. Great machines.
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Nice video Adam comparing the two machines! I agree if your a bundle wood maker the axis is the way to go and if your a volume producer 12-22 all the way!
Great video to the subject... very helpful for viewers
All good points Adam, I'm thinking can't go wrong either way. That Axis sure puts out consistent splits, but I'm also a big fan of the box wedge as well. Take care brother.
Axis all the way!! Your able to stand up and be more precise with the wood in any shape or size you want!!
Great video. We use a modified tw5 splitter with auto cycle that is like a trailer. Wood just gets pushed out the back with an axle under the table grate and towed from the front. Very portable.
I found a 4 way wedge at about 4-5” high is a perfect setting for our purposes. Ours is fixed and doesn’t move. It makes nice smaller pieces and then you get some larger ones too which are good for overnight in stoves. If the top 2 quarters are too large split them again and it’s perfect. Very little trash but still some.
It takes about 10 minutes to toss wood into a ibc tote and fill it for that’s that didn’t know.
Before I even hear this, I'm saying heck no, for your operation it's perfect...let's see. Yeah, I would have been very surprised otherwise. The number one thing for me as a sole operator most of the time is not chasing my wood! Wedge has to be on the cylinder for that to happen. I also hear you on the firewood OCD; it gets to the point where I "read" the wood as I'm splitting, where I have to split it to still end up with nice sticks of wood even with the grain running out a branch inclusion.
Like you opinion on both log splitters, as Andrew says the same spitter is not for everyone, I would still get the Axis, gets better quality less kindling. You made the right choice my friend keep safe
But then you don’t have to split kindling...
A well thorough job of comparing the two machines! If money wasn't an option, would you have kept both machines? Or would you go with a big processor. What are the plans for the future? Saw the sawmill and a kiln. Would you eventually get away from your full time job? What sawmill would you be looking at? I thought about getting a woodmizer. Right now i take logs to a friend of mine. I accumulated enough logs that i had milled to be able to build my Garage and a second story mancave. Nice video Adam! Thanks for sharing this!
Great info young man. Thank you and work safe
TH-cam really need to sort things out on what I wanna watch.
excellent comparison. From what I've observed, I think I'd appreciate the taller work surface more than anything. And you're taller than me, so I'm sure thats a big one for you!
Adam, not even close, my self closing in on 65yrs old, the standup splitter is a no brainer for us Seniors! 👍🏼🇱🇷
Age and height are a very big deal. The first splitter i helped out with i was on my knees and the hell with that! I stuckbwith hand splittin because i still got a workout, but didnt have to bendover so much. What's great about now is guys can see what might work better for them. At 6'5 myself and 61 my whole body might be in better shape if i had known how a splitter would be less wear and tear AND MORE WOOD in less time spent. Glad to see youngsters being smart.
hi there you do a real good job with your videos. speak well and clear so the content comes threw well also .you also made a lot of good points witch one i kind of try to get across don't get a splitter for the 5% (mega ton ) of your splitting . maybe you should go into broadcasting as a second career . john
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Adam I was wondering if you could do a video on your Holzfforma 372 carb adjustment?
I recently ordered a Farmertec 372 because of your earlier video. I should have it in 3-4 more weeks and I remember you mentioning it needs carb adjustments.
Thanks and keep making those firewood videos! I love them!
Very good summation of both machines. Bottom line is if you work alone, and how much control do yo want for sizing the wood. I think you got it right. Bad news is Eastonmade has a 1 year backlog - and they do not have any dealers in the US. I called them a few days ago. They talked about a possible raffle for one of their machines but there may be too much red tape for them to do it from a legal standpoint.
A really great comparison, initially didn’t think much of the axis unit. But, realizing I’ll probably be working alone when I do, it makes complete sense. I noticed the other day, that they’re now advertising it with an 8 foot conveyor which should help a little bit better performance. Definitely seems to be cleaner so to speak. Also, having firewood OCD, too, I do like the extra control over size of the firewood. Seems like less effort is required. Thanks for an honest comparison.
Great info. I think in your situation with bundle wood the axis is perfect!
Very true! It all depends on the person and what they use it for. I’ve seen the Champion 27 ton splitter reviews and looks great for the average homeowner. It’s only $1,000 as well. Not a mass production machine, but still could easily split a few extra chords for sale each year.
I was viewing the narrow wedge as a disadvantage because you have to drive it further for a split. but with that little force on the ram, I understand it.
Easton made is a win no matter which one you choose. I would like the 12-22 myself.
Awesome video I’m trying to decide on whether I should get a split force 11/16 or a Eastonmade axis it’s a tuff decision
Awesome video, brother. Really, really good. Chip
Great vid. I love Andrew's splitters.
On your stove, raise the box fan up a foot or more. The cold air in the room will get pulled to the stove instead of being pushed away.
Great info. Wish either one of these were in my budget. But lots of good stuff to consider for the future. Gonna stick with the maul for now
Yet another very well thought out,informative and very helpful video.
If we could get four other fire wood prossesor websites to hire you to do their videos, you could have yet another ancillary income :)
Now if you tell us that you are performing the background music as well in a basement sound booth, you will be getting Emmy nominations :)
Congratulations on a very entertaining , informative and pleasurable y.t. site.
I use a chain with a grab hook to pull a stuck peice off the wedge. Make sure its at least grade 70 or better 3/8" chain. The tall pusher is perfect for back pulling.
Have you thought about buying or building a box bin/box bin farm trailer for your forks on your tractor, use your conveyor to load it then just put it in your shop where you have your bundler. then place a few empty IBS totes in there then fill them. Also look at building a pole barn/shop around where the splitter is, you could make it open sided and as tall as you want. Or just start with a pole barn roof(high enough to get your tractor and splitter in and out.
Love your analytical analysis! You exposed me to a better way of splitting firewood. Still wondering why you don’t use the bottom and sides of the IBC tote tanks. Marcus from Chesapeake VA.
If you left the bottom and sides of the tanks in the totes it would take a lot longer for the wood to lose moisture.
i was looking on advices for what kind on splitter to build myself for a minimum of production. since im an arborist and handle big rounds i think an upright is the way to go. my little cheap 26t towable style is so hard on the back 😬 working at the proper height seem way better 😍 thanks adam 🤟🤟
Liked your stove going in the background. How comfortable does it keep your shop on super cold days?
Awesome video
Love your videos, just started getting curious in this area. Question is, wouldn’t a push plate be better long term for the machine since when it hits knots the plate disperses the weight?
Great explanation. Not may people have the splitting time on two eastonmades to give an option. Unless you work at the factory.
Man you are very thorough Impressive.. .
Great video I do 10000 bundle a year had a buitrite with auto cycle 6 way your right about waste. Don't by logs anymore so I went with a supersplit but if I do logs again will get axis
Do you put a tarp over the axis when not in use?
Adam: The Axis Is one of the best one trick pony I have every seen! With a two stage pump it has one of the fastest cycle times. The one inch width blade makes for better & precise cuts. I'm waiting for the day one one pop's up on the used market. I have the 9-16 and we love it.
I've seen in your videos with the Axis that when you get the ideal size log it cuts precision size chunks. Have you ever considered bringing out your wrapper and having your dad or someone else wrap those ideal logs after they've been split? It would save 1 or 2 steps handling the wood. Cut ,split, wrap, stack. Compared to cut, split, stack, move tote to wrapper, wrap, stack. One down fall I suppose to consider is you'd have more wood in the bundles if you wrapped in log form. I've seen anywhere from 8 or 9 pieces to 10 or 11 depending on the size of the split wood. With a 16"ish log still round and split, wrapped you'd have 12 to 16 pieces. But it would be a really clean look.
The issue is I like to sell seasoned firewood. It takes 6-12 months for the wood to dry out so it’ll burn better
I feel it's not how good it looks but rather how well it burns when your dealing with bundled wood. You have to keep the campers happy so they come back for more!
So I’m looking to buy a 12-22 when the time comes for that would it make sense to get all three wedge options so I can maximize output. Like for the 18+ the box might be better and the smaller the 6 and for the huge stuff the 4 or small stuff that just needs to be halved. I’ve also considered offering mobile processing of log piles for people that don’t want to pay for the cost of splitting and delivery. I think the 12-22 is a better option for me for this and my end goal is to have full log processor, kiln heat treater. I could still keep this if big amaryllis logs show up.
You can convert that Honda GX to electric start ($130 parts kit on Ebay)....and order them new with it. I guess Easton is having such a hard time getting Honda engines at all, they just went with the pull start.
Funny thing.....I built my splitter (using a older 3pt tractor hitch model for the basis) and put a Tecumseh 8hp engine on it originally. Well, after about 15 yrs of putting up with that sorry rebuid-the-carb-every-other-year piece of junk, I finally bought a Honda GX240 and put on it. I ordered it with electric start.....and have never used it ! It can sit 6 months (I just split for me) and will start easily on the first/second pull. Honda is such a great engine.
Incredible review. This is going to turn out to be an expensive video for me to watch! Haha
I've been cutting and splitting 6 cords per year for nearly fifty years. I wouldn't trade my 12-22 for anything. But then again I am a "git 'er done" firewood user. I don't care how pretty it looks, only how good it burns. :-)) Shalom/gw
Good job Adam.👍👍👏🏻👏🏻
I would want that elevator mike has cause I don't like pissing with the wood again.love the auto return.that's sweet.but I think if you put a stainless steel chute on the top it would let it shoot out to the center.
I loved watching them both but was wondering....do you have a video of how you bundle wood for camp fires????? Would really like to see that in action!!!!!!!!
Hi Mary, I do
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@@HometownAcres ..That was a pretty nifty machine....Thank you...I must have missed that posting!!!!
What do you use to sharpen your chainsaws? How long does it take per blade?
i am looking for pros and cons on the 28 ton swisher splitter i ask because it is local if its a good product i will save shipping and go with that i as yet dont own a trailer to haul such an item thanks so much and as mike says Have a day
Oh boy I am about to pull the trigger on a 5-11 or 9-16 with a box wedge but I do have OCD with getting the splits right....how do you feel about the box wedge splits vs what the axis produces? It seems the axis is more consistent if you are? I am going from an old TW-P1 so any of these are way more productive for me.
I've wrapped a chain around the push block and the round to get under stuck
I like both.
Depends on the needs.
Great info thanks, We noticed you never mentioned price difference??
Metal carport will be a perfect place to store the Axis.
Damn it. I keep watching your channel about log splitting. And you just keep adding expensive things to my “wants & needs” list. I don’t even sell firewood. I’m just a homesteader. But I figured since I’m getting a bandsaw mill. Might as well get a log splitter. I just have a hard time buying inferior products. Which isn’t the best move on my end fiscally. I’ve rented one of those splitters that looks like it came from Tractor supply or Home Cheapo. And it was frustrating as all hell.
We’re looking into getting a bandsaw mill right now too haha
What is the cost difference? Does the Axis use less fuel having a smaller engine? As for a place to keep it, build a shed over it and the same for your sawmill.
Build you a small building just for the axis that you can set it in under roof using the forks.