"Just because she (River) struggles to express it, doesn't mean she doesn't feel anything." Actually, River was trying to tell John that she loved him in her own unique way, by making paper rabbits, keeping the platypus and hacky sack. That was her way of telling him she loved him from the beginning.
Actually, the paper rabbits could symbolize one of two things; they could have symbolized everyone who wasn't her (they were all white), and the yellow rabbit was her (she was different, what with her having Asperger's). Alternatively, the rabbits could be the stars (they're white, and she made countless rabbits). I think it's the first one, though, 'cause the blue-and-yellow rabbit symbolized John and River together; the yellow being River and the blue being John.
This game really knows how to tug at my heartstrings, especially with Isabelle's speech in the middle of the video. I saw PewDiePie's playthrough of this when I was still a bro, and this impacts me so much even now. I have Asperger's (as well as ADHD, but that's not exactly relevant) and I perfectly understand what she was talking about. I'm treated, but it's still hard dealing with people who don't get it. Makes me tear up because it reminds me that I'm not alone with this. Such a good game that a bunch of pixels can make me cry and feel such a connection.
I know what you mean. My brother, sister and I all have varying degrees of Asperger's, so this hit me hard when... [KIND-OF-SPOILER ALERT] ...I finally realized mid-way through the video what River had. My siblings and I were fortunate in that our mom helped us get treated early on in life - but yeah, I agree with you in that it's difficult to deal with others who don't understand the sort of things we go through.
IlFacoceraptor It's all right :) I at least consider myself fortunate that I have a brother and sister who have had experiences similar to mine. We're like each other's best friends that way.
“Me… I’m an actress, because I’ve been doing it all my life.” “Not only on-stage, but off-stage… and practically every moment.” “I’ve gotten good at it, because acting is the only option I have.” “It’s the only way for me to be ‘normal’.” “But River… She never did that.” “She remained an outcast and refused to step against it.” “… I don’t know if it was by choice or by limit, whether bravery or cowardice.” “… There are days when I just can’t stand faking it anymore.” “And then, I realize that it’s too late.” “The Isabelle that people know of is all an act, and the real me has long become a stranger.” (Isabelle - 'To The Moon')
@@stephsaguudefan1753 as a neurotypical human that has become an outcast of my community due to thinking differently.. I actually can relate, and I can tell you acting normal when you disagree with your actions just to fit in does feel worse than just being yourself and being outcast. Wishing you well
"I'm so proud of you Joey" "Joey....?" "It was my grandpa's name. My mom calls me it as a nickname." I'm drowning in feels and I can't get up. Please send help.
I have Asperger's Syndrome, so does my boyfriend, and as I'm watching this, I can't help but cry at what Izzy says. My parents "trained" me to act like a normal child, to look people in the eye even if it makes me uncomfortable... all I wanted to do was disappear to my own world... a world where I don't have to be hurt by how the world only cares about itself, people knock you down so they can climb the ladder... I still want to go there... I've refused to act like neurotypicals because I'm tired of having to act like my life is a play and I'm a character who is not me... There's so many things about us Autistic individuals (Since Asperger's is a form of Autism) have gone through. Maybe we were all born on the wrong planet, and that's why he wants to go to the moon....
Clevera This is such a lovely comment. I have Asperger's Syndrome too. I was "trained" to act normal to a degree due to bullying, and when I got sick of that I started having issues with Maladaptive daydreaming, since I wanted to escape reality. I hope you and your Boyfriend are both doing well!!!
I agree with you completely, while my form of autism, I forget the name, is minor I still was bullied in school because while other kids went out side or ate lunch in the cafeteria I went to the library. I just found the cafeteria to be too loud and confusing. I must say this is one game I would want to buy even though I do not buy games usually.
I always wanted to learn how to act like a neurotypical and avoid getting bullied but since I was diagnosed in my late teens I could never learn. But now I couldn’t care less about it. People just have to accept me for being quirky.
I learned how to act like a neurotypical in middle school but by then it was too late to stop the bullying in school. Some days I'm too tired to fake it. And in some ways I've never tried to fake it. I've gotten to a place where I like who I am and I can fill in the social gaps when I need to. It helps to have a husband who loves me like crazy even when he doesn't understand me.
I don't know about any of you other Doctor Who fans out there watching this, but I would LOVE to see the Doctor attempting to try to put a piano into the TARDIS without having the TARDIS materialize itself around the piano. I'd especially love to see either 10 or 11 doing that.
'twas my first thought that the Doctor could just materialize the TARDIS around the piano. And I'd image that 11 would take it apart bring it in and then spend the rest of the episode trying to put it back together but making odd contorted shapes with it.
This game warms my heart. I understand River and Isabelle so much because I'm kind of like them in many ways. I have Asperger's and it's hard since I didn't know I had it until I was 15 it's hard on me since I'm very socially awkward. I sometimes don't realize I do or say weird things until after I say them and I would get teased a lot because of that. I'm now 18 and I still have a hard time with it specially since I have a older brother who also have Asperger's, but I'm on a higher level then him. so people always compare us and I hate it. People think people with Asperger's are all the same, but we are not. Thanks Markiplier for playing this. This actually made me cry.
I can't say I have the same condition but I can say that I kind of understand. As a kid I could not speak correctly and nobody understood me. After that I got bullied and I was always alone. I was an outcast for most of my life and I kind of still am. Even after I cured my depression, I still remain an outcast and its people like markiplier and jacksepticeye who help me not feel alone. Thanks to them I even made my own channel to help people who feel alone. To show them that I am hear to listen to them and believe in them.
I also have Aspergers and I found out when I was twelve. My dad also had it, but he never got diagnosed. I went throughout the whole of my early education terribly as I am high functioning, so everyone thought I was just being a dick and showing off, even my teachers would do it. I love this game because I can relate to it so well, I know everything that River is going through, from the rabbits to the lighthouse. It makes me cry happy tears >_
My little 8 year old brother just got diagnosed with Asperger's recently but I don't think he knows yet and I'm not supposed to know yet either. I just over heard Other Mom talking on the phone with someone.
Mark I just ended this game today...and I have to say that this is not just a game....its a piece of art..this game has truly one of the best storyline and you will probably agree that this is one of the best RPG games ever ! :) [ oh and don't forget that feels level is too damn high ]
MDXtreme, I think I love you dude. I never managed to so perfectly sum (idk is it the right word? Im not native in english) the game up. It definitly is art.
it's not just the game mark get's some credit and *I* think mark is the best person to watch when it comes to these kind's of walkthruo's the one's that have a great and sad story :)
It seems that John loved River very much, maybe they knew one another from childhood. River at some point in her life was diagnosed with a condition that may have been autism or some other neurological disorder that caused issues for River to establish connections with other people. At the beginning John was patient with River, until the disease became too much. Her illness progressed to the point where she was making paper rabbits obsessively. She probably chose the rabbit because she interpreted it as an innocent being whose life was cut off unjustly, she loves the lighthouse because it was the source of happy memories for her and John. I am probably completely off in left field, but this game is lovely and it is fun trying to analyze it and John and River's tragic relationship.
And I do enjoy reading theories of those that haven't played the game. I won't say much due to spoilers but let's just say a tiny part of it is right. ;)
when you first hear it, it does sound like it says that and you can never UNhear it Never. however serious it is...the name is still absolutely ridiculous it's good it changed to Autism because that makes a Little more sense then Aspergers...scientists always come up with the weirdest names for shit, like the fear of long words is absolutely a joke
THANK YOU! I am not the only one to realize this. I screamed Doctor Who as soon as I heard John and River. When he played a song I knew she was River Song
Anyone else notice what River meant when she asked Johnny to describe the rabbit? On their wedding day I noticed when they found the dead rabbit. River is wearing a blue and yellow dress. Between the fantastic story telling and just how much the pieces get my mind going, I'm loving this series a lot so far.
I don't think so. I think the rabbit was meaning to the moon. Since John took the beta blockers, he wasn't able to remember the first time they met (The reason why he was so drawn to River).
The TARDIS CAN, but the TARDIS's controls are janky. Imagine it just being totally uncooperative, so they have to try to get the piano through the door. In the end, the doctor realizes he forgot to flip some switch or something and his companion gets miffed that they spent an entire hour trying to get the damn thing in there.
It feels so weird! Watching this life unfold backwards is so bittersweet. You see the happiness in the younger years but already know how it all ends. the game tugs at your heartstrings, especially with the dance in Anya and the talk with Isabelle.
Awwww, this is so sweet. I can empathize with much of this because I was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome (Now a part of Autism Spectrum Disorder as of May 22, 2013 in accordance with DSM V) and the actress analogy is so touching because it's true. Everyday "high" functioning autistics must pretend to be socially normal, observing and processing every behavior displayed by the individuals they are conversing with and consciously decide what to do in response. It's not automatic like with neurotypicals and it teaches us to be great actors and delve into what it means to be human on the most basic level. We also like writing comments that don't really have to do with anything I guess...
I suddenly feel like I should point out something. I like everything about this game, except for one tiny little detail: this isn't a game. Now that's not necessarily a bad thing, but, seriously, this is *not* a game. The story, as far as I can tell, does not change. Whatever the player does does not affect the gameplay in any way. Apart from those puzzle pieces there just isn't *any* gameplay at all, to be honest. You can't lose, you can't change anything, this isn't even a quest, you need to do stuff in quests, while here you're just along for the ride, occasionally clicking on stuff to see what happens. This isn't a game, this is an interactive graphic novel. That being said, this is one of my favorite stories of all time.
a game is a competitive activity or challenge. or can be seen as "an activity that one engages in for amusement." - Google definition. so yes technically this is a game.
Its very much like an interactive story. It falls into the same category as the Tell Tale games The Walking Dead and The Wolf Among Us, except you can change more in them. I think it is still a game, just not one in the traditional sense.
I can't explain how happy it makes me to see a character in such a detailed and well-made game that has Autism. As someone who has Aspergers myself, it means an awful lot. More than I can say.
A) DOCTOR WHO REFERENCE. I NEED THIS GAME NOW. b) This is so sweet and cute and hnnnnngh. It's so well put together! I absolutely love this! C) I'm pretty sure River is Autistic. I myself am still waiting on a second opinion about me being Aspergers. My two best friends, Andrew and Katie, are both Autistic, too. Andrew has his quirks.... He stutters, and has a poor sense of judgement sometimes, is flighty and inatentive, and speaks like an upper class gentleman. Katie has her own as well. She's quiet and conservative, constantly paranoid, and always picks at her hair. I myself have learned in the last 4 years howbto act normal, but I have times when I don't... Typically when I get upset. Naturally, I am very childish and immature. I require a security blanket (my plushies) and tend to pick up on others' mannerisms. I also bite my nails. Not everyone who is Autistic is the same, but paranoia seems to be, on some level, a very common factor.
I have paranoia at night as well, I also bite my nails. I have ways of acting normal, but I tend to not act normal when I am at home with none except my mother. I have found I have an extreme problem, I have bitten my nails so much they bleed, and it has become a very strong addiction I can't find a way to take control of.
Videogame Fan Try to slow down how much you chew your nails. It's worked for me, my nails are still stubby but they don't bleed. If that doesn't work, see a professional who specializes in addictions.
Nameyo Pootis Thank you, I've already tried slowing down with my nail biting addiction, but I just can't help myself. I would just find myself biting my nails and I can't stop, but thank you anyways. I hadn't even realized I could talk to a professional about this until you mentioned it.
As someone on the spectrum, even all these years later this section makes me cry. It feels like mark understands what he's reading, at least at a basic level
Mark, her disease does definitely affect the brain. What she has is Aspergers syndrome. People with this fixate on one particular thing, appear awkward or shy when associating with others, and showing no emotion towards anything. Some even have a mind that hardly matures. They stick to a child's way of thinking. Those that have it, it must be difficult to go through. I've got family members that have it, so I get to see a small glimpse of what it's like for John. I can't possibly touch what River's going through though.
As the mother of a daughter who is also like River, I can tell you from first hand experience that my little girl acts a lot like her. There are times when she wants to be alone, others where she's able to "appear" normal. Its really painful for me inside knowing that my little girl will always be like this. Be that as it may I love my little girl to death and I do my best to take care of her.
As someone who has Asperger's..... yes. That's a lot what it's like. It's hard.... because people don't get me much. But I find my happiness where I can....
This is even sadder watching the story from the top (or rather, from the end) again, knowing what happens in their past and how all these little, seemingly random notes fit together. It's really a beautiful story, simultaneously heartbreaking and heartwarming. Also, don't worry too much about missing stuff or not doing the puzzles perfectly; the game is quite linear, and as far as I recall, aside from a small optional part that unveils something about Neil himself, the story plays out the same no matter what. But what it lacks in branching gameplay and exploration, it truly makes up for with one hell of a story. I'm so glad Mark is playing this! I've always found his commentary more interesting and thoughtful, and I think he'll understand To the Moon better than some of the others I've watched.
The thing i enjoy most about this LP, and what always brings me back to re-watch it, is how much Mark seems to love the story, and gets into it. It really is a great story, and it's a pleasure watching this over, no matter how many times i see it.
You really should know what the Emperor's New Clothes is Mark. It's a short tale by Hans Chrisitan Andersen A vain Emperor who cares about nothing except wearing and displaying clothes hires two swindlers who promise him the finest, best suit of clothes from a fabric invisible to anyone who is unfit for his position or "hopelessly stupid". The Emperor's ministers cannot see the clothing themselves, but pretend that they can for fear of appearing unfit for their positions and the Emperor does the same. Finally the swindlers report that the suit is finished, they mime dressing him and the Emperor marches in procession before his subjects. The townsfolk play along with the pretense, not wanting to appear unfit for their positions or stupid. Then a child in the crowd, too young to understand the desirability of keeping up the pretense, blurts out that the Emperor is wearing nothing at all and the cry is taken up by others. The Emperor cringes, suspecting the assertion is true, but continues the procession. It's a pretty funny story, I like it.
Two things: 1) I loved that story and I never knew that was the name for it, so maybe Mark is in the same situation, 2) I'm glad that you are one of the commenters that doesn't say how stupid Mark is for not knowing something, and then fail with your grammar. So for those reasons you get a gold star, the TickleScrote Army Seal of Approval, and a cookie. :3
You do not need to know the end of the game to know that The Emperors new Clothes is a mirror to To the Moon 2 Individuals (the cloths makers, and the scientist) give the single individual (the King, and Johnny) an object that could be real but is otherwise False (The cloths, and the Moon)
The Emperor's new clothes was written by the danish writer Hans Christian Andersen, who in Denmark is still a really popular writer :) The story is about a selfish Emperor who wears only the most beautiful clothes anyone has even saw. One day two men tricks him to believe that he is wearing the most prettiest clothes in the whole land, but in reality he is only wearing underwear. Then he walks out on the streets with his underwear, and everyone sees it. No one says anything about it, only a little boy who yelles "He hasn't any clothes on!". (I hope this made any since at all :D )
You forgot one important thing: Everyone was pretending to see the clothes, since the two men said that whoever couldn't see them was either incompetent or stupid. But after the boy said that the Emperor isn't wearing any clothes, everyone realised why they couldn't see the clothes. Also, I'm pretty sure Hans Christian Andersen well known in Europe, not just Denmark. :)
Monika Šega Oh yeah i forgot! :) I only said what the story was about and forgot to give the details :) And of course H.C Andersen is not only popular in Denmark :) He is also known in Europe for his other storys: The ugly duckling and The princess and the pea, and many others :)
"Be still, my beating heart," and "Butterflies in my soul," are the cutest things you have ever said Mark. Whatever woman you eventually find in your life had better be hard as a rock, but still melt from your soft heart.
It’s really sad when you remember River is able to recall that first meeting with Johnny which translates to the rabbits. However, those memory blockers makes so he doesn’t. When Johnny told River of the reason he first went to talk to her, he truly thinks that the first time they seemly interacted but for River she still thinks the first time was at the carnival. It’s a disconnect neither understand about each other & almost can’t understand.
As someone who was and still is a huge Animorphs fan, I was practically screaming "LION" at the video. Game got it wrong; David had a cobra *pet*, but it was Marco who got the morph. (Also, the author is K. A. Applegate) Also as someone who is on the Autism spectrum with Asperger's Syndrome, I picked up on that hint way back when the game first mentioned all the rabbit origami.
KudaKeileon It's speculated that the inaccurate answer for the Animorph question is a hint towards Johnny's faulty memory, as everything in these scenes all stem from it. That's why a lot of people outside of main characters are silhouettes, b/c John can't remember them clearly enough.
I've had a theory since the beginning, but the TARDIS reference I think confirmed it. So the two characters who you're observing, John and River, are named after The Doctor and River Song, and John is because every time he would go under cover he'd name himself John Smith.
You know... if that technology actually existed, this would be an amazing job other than the whole invading privacy and rewriting the memory of the soon-to-be-deceased...
I really like when Mark looks at these rpg story driven games. A few people seemed to worry that Mark wouldn't take it seriously, but I am thoroughly enjoying this. Mark just has a good voice for narration and this game has a pretty good balance of serious subject matter and comedy relief.
As far as I remember from my literature classes, The Emperor's News Clothes is a book about two weavers that make clothes and give one to the emperor after telling him that the clothes are invisible to those unfit for something, I can't remember what exactly. What I do remember about the story is that the emperor wanted to show off his new extravagant clothes but ended up walking necked through the street because they were invisible. Now I really want to know how this story relates to this game.
To elaborate: Two scammers pretended to be weavers for the extravagant, selfish king who would wear only the finest clothing. He hired them, and they said that (IIRC) only sinners and imbeciles were unable to see the clothes. And so, when the emperor went to show off his new clothing, everyone pretended to be capable of seeing the clothing except for one little boy.
viper gamezz I got a vague memory about the story since the literature class I'm mentioning is about 8 to 9 years old. So I can't recall every detail of the story or the talking of my teacher that lead me to falling asleep on my desk.
I can honestly say I have never been more connected to a character than I have with River and Isabelle. The hinted mental disability is most definitely autism. The difficulty in expressing emotion, the hyper-focusing and obsession with things, and the lack of understanding other's emotions and reasoning. River, Isabelle, and I all have high-functioning autism (for me specifically, it's Aspergers). And my god, Isabelle's speech about acting normally is so on point and real that I had to pause the video to recollect myself. I was diagnosed with "Mood Disorder Otherwise Unknown" at about 6 or 7, a fancy term doctors use for "something's wrong with your kid but we don't know what". I was given medicine for schizophrenia and ADHD, which didn't help at all, other than sometime's making me woozy. They couldn't give me anything that actually helped because autism still wasn't something doctors could easily diagnose kids with. So I had to learn how to act. Isabelle's monologue captures almost the entirety of being raised to act neurotypical, but she did leave out on one thing that I experience so often: belonging to neither community. You are well enough to socialize with people, perhaps seem odd or quirky to them, but when you get down to it, you /arent/ like them. You cringe at certain sounds and can't touch certain fabrics. A lot of times human contact feels wrong and a lot of people take that the wrong way and think you don't like them. You miss certain jokes, can't handle parties or concerts, and when you tell people you're autistic they laugh and look at you confused and say "No you're not. You're normal". You're not well enough to belong with the other neurotypicals fully, and the neurodivergent community isn't as open to you either. In my experiences I've had to join programs and special classes for jobs and school work. This is my last year of high school and in multiple classes I was denied my accommodations because the teachers thought I was being lazy or that I wasn't trying hard enough. In their eyes, I wasn't disabled enough. That's the worst part of having to act. You're unintentionally outcasted from both sides. I feel Isabelle's envy so badly. Sometimes I wish I was just left with what I was a child, and not taught how to act so that I could get the help I /need/ without having to scream and beg and write emails and have meetings months prior for even a consideration. I wasn't even diagnosed until I was a freshman three years ago. I didn't even know what I was for the first 14 years of my life. And man this just got ranty and sad but I just want to say how much I appreciate this game! How much these characters mean to me! I've watched Cry play it, I've watched Pewdiepie, and now I'm watching Mark! I'm so thankful! It means so so much to me because even if River's autism isn't the central idea of this game, it means something!! It's educating and real and happy and also kinda bittersweet. It's me! It's all the others who have it!! I haven't even met another girl with autism before and the first time I see it in a game it's with two of them!!! So just...now it's my turn to thank you Mark. You always say how we've made you happy and know that with you playing this game, you've made me happy in return. I can't wait until the next update man, I'm looking forward to this.
I love that there are so many references in this game! I would love to see the Doctor (either David Tennant or Peter Capaldi) try some hair brained idea to move a baby grand piano with the TARDIS. I also find it funny how there is a Doctor Who reference in this game an the wife's name is River, as in River Song. From the clues and the way the characters talk about her condition I suspect that she might be on the autism spectrum, probably Aspergers since they refer to it as a "syndrome". My younger cousin is on the spectrum also, his condition is much more severe but he is a sweet heart.
It's so uplifting seeing a guy's heart get touched by adorable moments like that. It seems to be a rare thing I find. Thank you Mark. :) This lovely story is getting sadder and sadder. I love it, but it seriously pulls on the heart strings.
short steps deep breath everything's alright chin up i cant step into the spotlight she said im sad some how without any words i just stood there searing for an answer when this world is no more the moon is all we'll see ill ask you to fly away with me until the stars all fall down they empty from the sky but i don't mind if your with me then everything's alright why do my words always lose there meaning what i feel what i say there such a rift between them he said i cant really seem to read you i just stood there never know what i should do when this word is no more the moon is all we'll see ill ask you to fly away with me until the stars all fall down they empty from the sky but i don mind if your with me then everything's alright if your with me then everything's alright i did that from memory, its called everything's alright and its from this game. i truly love this game. true butterfly's in my soul
+Holly Smith I love that song so much. I usually cry from hearing it. I also listen to it when I feel down or depressed (which is often...). The song was actually suggested to me at first by my boyfriend. Its also in my top five favorite songs.
While I could say many things about River's condition (NOT disease mind you, Autism is just another way of living life!), instead I'm going to sit back and wait in anticipation as Markiplier approaches the worst part of the entire game: THE HORSE RIDING SEGMENT
***** although it does quite the opposite. i have asperger's and my iq is higher than most, while autism tends to lower one's IQ. so really, it shouldnt be considered a form.
Bryan enhsb What about a savant then? Someone with autism who also has a high IQ? Or am I confusing my terms: please correct me if I am. :p Have a pleasant day!
The Emperor's New Clothes is a short tale by Hans Christian Andersen about two weavers who promise an Emperor a new suit of clothes that is invisible to those who are unfit for their positions, stupid, or incompetent. When the Emperor parades before his subjects in his new clothes, no one dares to say that he doesn't see any suit of clothes until a child cries out, "But he isn't wearing anything at all!"
"The ending isn't any more important than any of the moments leading to it." That's actually really profound! I had to actually pause the video to absorb it. Kinda makes disappointments fade away. (I wanted ice cream, I never got the ice cream, but at least I was happy for a period while waiting for it.) Also who else thinks that Mark does a great old man voice?
Animorphs man...Applegate certainly knew how to write standalone stories. And I love that they mentioned David, his story arc was seriously dark and I love that it really highlighted how good of an "actress" Rachel was.
I think i'm not the first one to think this, but, I want to state my opinion on why I like to watch Mark play these type of games ( Sad RPG, horror RPG and all that): He takes it as it is and respect it, he doesn't go too overboard and when he does, he admits it, he also keep it entertaining at the most important part, and interested at the emotional part. For someone like Pewdie, I don't think it fits someone like him to play this game and keep it emotional ( Here me out Pewdiepie fans!) I like the Pews and I like his gameplay, his Amnesia video cracks me up, but he has only one pattern of gaming and that's being goofy, it just doesn't serve this particular game justice.
Yep. I agree. Of the TH-camr's I've seen play this, I think Mark and Cry are the ones who truly do it justice. Quiet when it's appropriate, don't make light of the serious elements, and are honestly engage in the story.
Thank you for seeing my point! I mean, pewdiepie himself took a picture of his most dislike video and that was an LP of To the moon, i'm not even kidding!
3 years later I came back to watch this series again (because it's an amazing series ) and I only just realised that River is the lady from the beginning in the picture wearing blue and yellow. That's probably also the significance of the blue and yellow origami rabbit! .....I'm super dumb 😅
I just have to say this, Mark's voice is amazing! Like, he's so into these little voices he does for these characters and I love it! (^_^) He has a perfect voice for voice acting, not just talking but, singing too
There are things in this game that reviewing it and seeing it again all these years later, I just am blown away with the storytelling. Such an incredible series.
Up until I saw this game, I thought I was different from all the other austistic people and for a while, thought that the psychologist was wrong. I was diagnosed with a VERY slight bit of aspergers syndrome. Nobody can tell, so I can relate to Isabelle. Though when I was little, it was bad, but found early. So me and my parents worked hard for years to make me "normal" . I fully understand and feel exactly, what Isabelle said. It's rare to find a game about this. Usually games commonly use other sensitive topics such as depression, and suicide, which yes, is a big issue as well.
I've watched this play through so many times and I still can't get over how adorable the lighthouse and horse cutscenes are and Mark's reactions make it all the better! I really enjoyed seeing a more plot focused game with laid back gameplay. I hope you find more to do in the future, they suit you well, Mark!
***** A year is certainly a small amount of time to me but I don't know if someone else feels the same ^^" I don't know where this guy was coming from or how he thought so I was just saying >~
Yeah but the piano looks bigger than the perimeter of the TARDIS in it's original Blue Box form. Maybe The Doctor is able to increase the size of the TARDIS. Since when dying, the TARDIS size manipulation powers down and increases in size. But then again, the Boneless sucked energy from her and made her shrink. I don't know.
I don't know if I'm just thinking in the comments or if I even want anyone to answer me, but, does River have Asperger's? Is that why she clings so tight to little things that invoke so little emotion in ourselves because we already have so many feelings? Like a dead rabbit or a pretty lighthouse? Because any feeling at all is special to her?
Aspergers is usually defined by a "mild" inability to socialize and the occasional obsession of various objects and/or themes. It's usually paired with one or more other disorders, ADHD, for example.
I really love this game. It has such a beautiful story and its interesting to find out the things that make River and John who they are in the end. Such a beautiful story.
Oh, so many references in this game, I love it! And yes, there needs to be an episode of the Doctor trying to move a piano into the TARDIS, a minisode maybe, I'd watch that, haha c:
I would gladly watch an episode of the Doctor trying to get a piano into the TARDIS; but only if it was 11 because I miss Matt. He was a good Doctor. And cute; teehee.
Another note on this specific video, I LOVE Animorphs! I read every one of the main story books, though only I think 2 of the side books written. I still have my books, but I haven't re-read them in awhile. They're a touch more mature then the name might let on at first blush, which is one of the things I loved so much about them. They're also special because a good friend of mine I lost touch with long ago introduced me to them, I got hooked easily.
Mark if you haven't figured out what she was trying to do with the rabbit she left him I will tell you. In this video what color is her dress. The top is blue. The bottom is yellow. The colors of the rabbit represent the dress she wore on her wedding day. Depending on her illness many use art as a way to give emotion a form. To give a memory a form. Many times they don't know how to express themselves and instead turn it into art. In her case origami bunnies.I have yet to understand the platypus.
Watching the look she gives him when he says "our first meeting", and watching him throw the hackey sack, is so heart-wrenching once you understand everything…
The first grid he did, when he was saying he didn't get it, I was like 'MARK. YOUR AWESOME AND ALL BUT YOU ARE DOOPID IF YOU DONT GET THIS' And then he said he couldn't tell the difference between the grid and the white paper. So... Ill except it this once =w= *clearly joking*
I feel like the thing River wants John to say is that the blue and yellow origami rabbit is unique... Or something among those lines. XD ((I Could be completely wrong.. BUT DO NOT SPOIL LOL)
You are in a way correct, but I cannot explain further. It's best you simply let the game tell you itself. It won't be perfectly obvious, though. I only just realized it watching Mark's playthrough, and this is the fourth time I've watched/played through the storyline.
I decided to play this game for myself after I saw the first 2 videos. I finished the entire game in one sitting. It was amazing and yes I admit it, I cried a little. I recommend it to anyone who has $10 to spare. It's just so amazing and heart wrenching and just overall a good game with an amazing story.
Got to the part where Johny threw the sack; I'm crying. :) Too many f***ing messages that you'll need to replay the game to see in their truest beauty.
I just realized how that whole thing went, after playing though and watching this game about 4 times now.. 'Would you?' ..and he did. I never knew just how important that moment was. God I love Kan Gao's storytelling. He's fantastic.
Nicolas K He can't Mark has yet to beat this game, and other viewers have yet to know the progression of the game. Indeed Lemoncake Logan, too many amazing moments are presented with this games replay-ability.
Nicolas K As Adam said, I can't explain. It wouldn't be right to ruin it for you and anyone who happened to see this thread. If you'd like to watch an already completed play-through by another silken-voiced, story-loving dude, watch 'Cry Plays: To the Moon'. Cry's an outstanding guy, and he was who I first experienced this story through.
Sorry for all the comments but Sorry Mark I just thought you had read it...The Basic plot of the story is this....A vain Emperor who cares about nothing except wearing and displaying clothes hires two swindlers who promise him the finest, best suit of clothes from a fabric invisible to anyone who is unfit for his position or "hopelessly stupid". The Emperor's ministers cannot see the clothing themselves, but pretend that they can for fear of appearing unfit for their positions and the Emperor does the same. Finally the swindlers report that the suit is finished, they mime dressing him and the Emperor marches in procession before his subjects. The townsfolk play along with the pretense, not wanting to appear unfit for their positions or stupid. Then a child in the crowd, too young to understand the desirability of keeping up the pretense, blurts out that the Emperor is wearing nothing at all and the cry is taken up by others. The Emperor cringes, suspecting the assertion is true, but continues the procession.
sapherno11 Na I read yours its fine I just copy and pasted from the wiki real quick is all LOL. I tend to keep forgetting how much older I am then Mark or a lot of his subscribers (48) and I guess I just think ppl have read all the books that I have LOL! But its an epic story
ProGamerShow Nick LOL nope can't do I love my pirate Queen its the first and only skin I've had since I began playing minecraft and my son picked her out. Sorry Pirate Queen chick stays :)
ProGamerShow Nick I'll* Believe* Do proof read... also not everyone who plays minecraft is a child and trust me. if you attempt to deny that that was your point.... well i can simply tell you you're wrong.
It is rare when a moment in a game can make me smile like an idiot and feel so happy inside, but that moment when they danced in the lighthouse did it for me. This is such an amazing game, thank you for playing it Mark, I would have never discovered it otherwise :).
Emperor's New Clothes is about an emperor that goes to weavers and asks them to make a robe.The weavers claim they're making a robe out of a fabric that's so fancy, people who are dumb or unworthy can't see it. Obviously that's a lie. Nobody wants to admit they can't see the fabric, though, so a city wide charade commences. The emperor goes to a parade wearing nothing while him and others pretend they see the robe and grovel at its opulence. A kid doesn't buy into the hype and points out the emperor is naked. People finally concede to the kid's observation, while the emperor refuses to acknowledge he was swindled.
as you say mark, i really like the heart in this game. it does a great job at telling its heartfelt story. its not really much on game play though. watch the characters talk, a minimal amount of environmental exploration and some simple puzzles to solve. i think this would do just as well as an animated story book as it would as a game interestingly enough, animorphs was the first full length book i read all the way through as a kid
Yes, River's condition is similar to Asperger's. If you rematch it many times, you catch things you didn't before. I've seen this game at least eight different times, and played it at least four. But, yes. Emotions.
But... Mark... You have no idea how thankful I am for you. Because of you I have lots of new friends, and even a girlfriend... I just copy you in my social life and I have gotten all of the friends. And you said that, "We- well I can do what ever I want." Well I really just want to become just like you. I want to become a TH-camr just like you. You have given me the confidence to start my own channel and put me self out there for others to watch. I can't really do anything because I don't really have a lot of money to get any of the good recording soft ware. I know people really like TH-cam videos because they have a facecam, well those are the kind of videos I like the most... The ones with facecams. I can't get a facecam because of where my life is at with money...Well... I have a camera, but I can't put my face in because I don't have any kind of recording software that has layers to where I can put it in... It has always been my life dream to become a TH-camr and now I can- well at least try to become a TH-camr because of you. And for that... I thank you... so much, that... that you don't even understand... (No Homo) But... I love you. That honestly made me tear up a little... There is so much I want to tell you, but I shouldn't because it's to much to type... I am sorry... But I am going to be posting this on your other videos untell you see this... Sorry...
I have understood every reference (I believe, unless a few were sneaky) and it makes this game SO wonderful. It's funny, it's touching, and it's realistically sad. Amazing.
It's funny, i was thinking it might have been Autism as well... but can it really take until late adulthood to be diagnosed? I just feel like that's a pretty long time for something that's supposed to change your life and social interactions forever. Also I have Autism (high-functioning) and I never felt like I was acting... mostly because I'm a horrible actor but that's besides the point.... Am I making sense to anyone?
I don't know if it's appropriate to ask (I understand if it isn't) but would you mind explaining your case of autism? I know there are many types and all i know is it can make people socially detached.
Matthew Skulliton I feel like I should since I have it and it used to be rather severe growing-up but I always thought that there was the child diagnosed version of Autism and the later diagnosed version around early adulthood called Aspergers. But apparently it can take longer in some cases... The more you know.
I don't know if this counts as a game spoiler since they never specifically name River's condition anyway, but she has Asperger's Syndrome. They allude to it a lot though, like at one point there's a book in the game written by a real-life author that writes books about Aspergers, so if you know of the condition you'll pick up on hints like that. Anyway, to answer your question, yes, it's possible for Asperger's to be diagnosed much later in life - as far as I know, it mainly affects one's social behaviors, and someone with Asperger's could potentially just be viewed as "shy" or "weird" for much of their life, and not actually be taken to see a doctor by their parents.
I loved playing this game.. the music was so beautiful, the characters were wonderful, and the storyline is amazing! Really glad mark is playing this game. :D
To be honest, I find the story a little unfair. The guy loves River so much, but she only cares about Anya. And it's just so unfair on him because she decided to die herself and left her husband all alone for so many years in an ampty house. She just seems a bit selfish and like she doesn't care about him that much.
Anya is the lighthouse. Of course he'll say he loves the lighthouse, it means a lot to his wife. Just wait for more of the story. It explains everything.
For people with autism, it's difficult for them to express interest or love with people they care about. They find it hard to share their feelings or connect in the way people deemed as normal do. They often become hyper focused on one thing that they like to make them happy. For River, I don't think it's because she cared more for Anya than she did for John, it's just that the lighthouse was such a big part of her life (you'll see why later on) that she became hyper focused on protecting and caring for Anya. And since John shows the same interest in Anya, River sees that as a way for them to connect. Even if John doesn't care for Anya all that much, he's unintentionally lead River to believe that he loves Anya as much as she does. She expressed her love for John through her love for Anya; the only way she knew how to connect. And when they spend time at the lighthouse, caring for Anya, that's how River says, "I love you."
It's been a while since I read Animorphs... Was there a character named David? o-o Well if anything I'm leaning to his main morph being a tiger... Hold on let me organize my thoughts Ax is the Weird alien thing Uhh... I can't remember her name but she's a brunette, her morph is aaaaa.... wolf?.... Can't remember her name but she is blond and her main morph iiiiss.... nope can't remember that one Forgot his name but he was the one trapped in a morph which is a Red-tailed eagle or something... This guy is like the leader and his main morph is a Tiger I'm pretty sure it is. Someone help me out. r dont I'll probably look it up later I just wanted to see if I could get it off the top of my head...
I remember reading animorphs only 3-4 years ago. (I just happened to stumble upon it) it's remained one of my favorite book series, seeing these references brings back good memories!
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I don't really like how this game portrays Asperger's, don't get me wrong, I like what it was trying to do with it but I feel that it was done in a backwards way. I have Asperger's, a lot of people have it really. I didn't learn about it until later in my life and I'm nothing like River. People think that if you have Autism you can't function and most people look at you differently, having Isabelle say that she fakes being normal doesn't help anything. I've known a lot of people in my life to deal with the condition, many of them where like Isabelle and diagnosed at a young age, and they tell me you can't "learn to be more normal". You can come to understand that not everyone thinks the way you do and sometimes that helps in communicating but that's all. In short, the Asperger's in this game is only portraying what it would be like to have only minor touches of the condition (like Isabelle) or to be so far on the other end of the spectrum that you have every effect of the condition to it's maximum possibilities (what you see in River), there is nothing to show what most people with it are really like. Most of us are stuck in a middle ground you never hear about, where society just calls you "weird". We're not quite River and not quite Isabelle.
"Everyone with it is different." I have it. I've seen myself in every single part of the spectrum of the syndrome, so I know what each and every little extreme and all in between feels like. Many who have it are quite fortunate, but they are not always perfect, and often things are exaggerated. For someone like me who has had too much within my early life, I have a bit more trouble with pretty much everything. It all depends on what they have in their life. Many have a lot and are well-off. Others aren't as fortunate.
I've had a lot of bad experiences in social interactions with people I'm not familiar with which has only made me become more and more distant. What's really terrible about it is that it can make me feel really depressed when it happens, or when I feel I've disappointed someone by not doing everything exactly the way they want me to and have done something wrong, the worst part of it all is that part where I forget how I felt and how I truly am, the part where my true nature gets swept away in a storm filled with bad jokes, psychotic desire, and the overwhelming awareness of how the cold air bends, curls, twirls and dances through and around my body filling it with an essence of insanity. Replacing the person who writes this comment with a cold blooded, unfeeling, deranged lunatic who takes his bad experiences to extreme amounts of hatred for the humanity who just wants to sweep them all away underneath a blanket of snow. If you were to meet me you could say I'm shy at first before slowly warming up to you and becoming a happy funny guy to be around, but you would never though that none of that is my choice. If I could truly act out what I feel deep inside my twisted brain I would just sit in a corner all day and scream. My only release is to be able to post my inner thoughts within small bursts to people who will never meet me, or people who truly won't react to it at all. As long as I can talk about it to someone who might give even the smallest semblance of a shit and can relate somewhat then I can feel as close to true happiness as I will ever get. You cannot look at the person I usually identify as and truly think that I am happy, if you were to properly analyse my behavior it would probably be extremely apparent that I'm not happy, that my loneliness has just caused me to go completely mad. That's why I'm still alone, because I'm surrounded by imbeciles who cannot even begin to comprehend who I am and what I will be able to do when the time comes, I will continue to sit here and wait until its time that people finally got what's coming to them.
Alatreon774 beyond that. River is obsessed with them ever since she was little. She thought the stars were lighthouses, and she always wanted to befriend one of them. She loves lighthouses.
"The ending isn't more important than any of the moments leading up to it."
one of my favorite quotes from the game
To think that quite can be attached to recent events in Mark’s life
Memento Mori Unus Annus
Sounds like the definition of living life
Another way of saying the end doesn't justify the means.
"Just because she (River) struggles to express it, doesn't mean she doesn't feel anything."
Actually, River was trying to tell John that she loved him in her own unique way, by making paper rabbits, keeping the platypus and hacky sack. That was her way of telling him she loved him from the beginning.
Actually, the paper rabbits could symbolize one of two things; they could have symbolized everyone who wasn't her (they were all white), and the yellow rabbit was her (she was different, what with her having Asperger's). Alternatively, the rabbits could be the stars (they're white, and she made countless rabbits). I think it's the first one, though, 'cause the blue-and-yellow rabbit symbolized John and River together; the yellow being River and the blue being John.
+Bro-Brah-Bruh is that her condition
+Grammar Nazi I've always thought she was trying to remind john of the day they met and when they were making a bunny out of the moon.
+TheSuperslajsaren that's what I think
+IcePhoenix 330 She didn't know that he didn't remember until he told her. But she still kept it with her till then.
This game really knows how to tug at my heartstrings, especially with Isabelle's speech in the middle of the video. I saw PewDiePie's playthrough of this when I was still a bro, and this impacts me so much even now. I have Asperger's (as well as ADHD, but that's not exactly relevant) and I perfectly understand what she was talking about. I'm treated, but it's still hard dealing with people who don't get it. Makes me tear up because it reminds me that I'm not alone with this. Such a good game that a bunch of pixels can make me cry and feel such a connection.
I know what you mean. My brother, sister and I all have varying degrees of Asperger's, so this hit me hard when... [KIND-OF-SPOILER ALERT]
...I finally realized mid-way through the video what River had. My siblings and I were fortunate in that our mom helped us get treated early on in life - but yeah, I agree with you in that it's difficult to deal with others who don't understand the sort of things we go through.
123MsAngel I am sorry for that. I wish I could understand how it is
IlFacoceraptor It's all right :) I at least consider myself fortunate that I have a brother and sister who have had experiences similar to mine. We're like each other's best friends that way.
*****
Come on, man, there's no need to bash Felix like that. It's childish and unnecessary.
Thank you for putting this into words
“Me… I’m an actress, because I’ve been doing it all my life.”
“Not only on-stage, but off-stage… and practically every moment.”
“I’ve gotten good at it, because acting is the only option I have.”
“It’s the only way for me to be ‘normal’.”
“But River… She never did that.”
“She remained an outcast and refused to step against it.”
“… I don’t know if it was by choice or by limit, whether bravery or cowardice.”
“… There are days when I just can’t stand faking it anymore.”
“And then, I realize that it’s too late.”
“The Isabelle that people know of is all an act, and the real me has long become a stranger.”
(Isabelle - 'To The Moon')
Only neurodivergent people will truly understand this amazing dialogue.
@@stephsaguudefan1753 as a neurotypical human that has become an outcast of my community due to thinking differently.. I actually can relate, and I can tell you acting normal when you disagree with your actions just to fit in does feel worse than just being yourself and being outcast.
Wishing you well
I don't know if anyone has pointed it out, but the blue and yellow origami rabbit earlier in the game matches River's wedding dress
It's also blue and yellow because of the dark blue night sky, and the yellow of the moon.
"I'm so proud of you Joey"
"Joey....?"
"It was my grandpa's name. My mom calls me it as a nickname."
I'm drowning in feels and I can't get up. Please send help.
kitsunegirl99 oh-
I played this game a few days ago
I actually get it now
cries
**sends help**
I have Asperger's Syndrome, so does my boyfriend, and as I'm watching this, I can't help but cry at what Izzy says. My parents "trained" me to act like a normal child, to look people in the eye even if it makes me uncomfortable... all I wanted to do was disappear to my own world... a world where I don't have to be hurt by how the world only cares about itself, people knock you down so they can climb the ladder... I still want to go there... I've refused to act like neurotypicals because I'm tired of having to act like my life is a play and I'm a character who is not me... There's so many things about us Autistic individuals (Since Asperger's is a form of Autism) have gone through. Maybe we were all born on the wrong planet, and that's why he wants to go to the moon....
Clevera This is such a lovely comment. I have Asperger's Syndrome too. I was "trained" to act normal to a degree due to bullying, and when I got sick of that I started having issues with Maladaptive daydreaming, since I wanted to escape reality. I hope you and your Boyfriend are both doing well!!!
I agree with you completely, while my form of autism, I forget the name, is minor I still was bullied in school because while other kids went out side or ate lunch in the cafeteria I went to the library. I just found the cafeteria to be too loud and confusing. I must say this is one game I would want to buy even though I do not buy games usually.
I always wanted to learn how to act like a neurotypical and avoid getting bullied but since I was diagnosed in my late teens I could never learn. But now I couldn’t care less about it. People just have to accept me for being quirky.
I learned how to act like a neurotypical in middle school but by then it was too late to stop the bullying in school. Some days I'm too tired to fake it. And in some ways I've never tried to fake it. I've gotten to a place where I like who I am and I can fill in the social gaps when I need to. It helps to have a husband who loves me like crazy even when he doesn't understand me.
I don't know about any of you other Doctor Who fans out there watching this, but I would LOVE to see the Doctor attempting to try to put a piano into the TARDIS without having the TARDIS materialize itself around the piano. I'd especially love to see either 10 or 11 doing that.
11 so would try that Mao
'twas my first thought that the Doctor could just materialize the TARDIS around the piano.
And I'd image that 11 would take it apart bring it in and then spend the rest of the episode trying to put it back together but making odd contorted shapes with it.
definitely no questions asked though capaldy might be interesting
LOVE doctor who!!!!!!!!!!
Do you think the character River, is tied in with Dr. Who's River? (riversong yeah I know) but yeah? Theories?
I love how mark says "be still my heart" and "butterflies in my soul" that's so cute of him to do that ^^😊
nancy , I don't know why but I love it too it has some meaning to me when he says it
This game warms my heart. I understand River and Isabelle so much because I'm kind of like them in many ways. I have Asperger's and it's hard since I didn't know I had it until I was 15 it's hard on me since I'm very socially awkward. I sometimes don't realize I do or say weird things until after I say them and I would get teased a lot because of that. I'm now 18 and I still have a hard time with it specially since I have a older brother who also have Asperger's, but I'm on a higher level then him. so people always compare us and I hate it. People think people with Asperger's are all the same, but we are not. Thanks Markiplier for playing this. This actually made me cry.
I can't say I have the same condition but I can say that I kind of understand. As a kid I could not speak correctly and nobody understood me. After that I got bullied and I was always alone. I was an outcast for most of my life and I kind of still am. Even after I cured my depression, I still remain an outcast and its people like markiplier and jacksepticeye who help me not feel alone. Thanks to them I even made my own channel to help people who feel alone. To show them that I am hear to listen to them and believe in them.
I also have Aspergers and I found out when I was twelve. My dad also had it, but he never got diagnosed. I went throughout the whole of my early education terribly as I am high functioning, so everyone thought I was just being a dick and showing off, even my teachers would do it. I love this game because I can relate to it so well, I know everything that River is going through, from the rabbits to the lighthouse. It makes me cry happy tears >_
+Lily Bailey what's asperges?
+Shea Dailey aspergers:
My little 8 year old brother just got diagnosed with Asperger's recently but I don't think he knows yet and I'm not supposed to know yet either. I just over heard Other Mom talking on the phone with someone.
Mark I just ended this game today...and I have to say that this is not just a game....its a piece of art..this game has truly one of the best storyline and you will probably agree that this is one of the best RPG games ever ! :)
[ oh and don't forget that feels level is too damn high ]
MDXtreme, I think I love you dude. I never managed to so perfectly sum (idk is it the right word? Im not native in english) the game up. It definitly is art.
for some reason i can't like the comment but to me it was really one of the best games i've seen
I think mark should do the voice for the old man and make this a movie
it's not just the game mark get's some credit
and *I* think mark is the best person to watch when it comes to these kind's of walkthruo's the one's that have a great and sad story :)
So very many feels. I wonder if Mark will have some fluid escape his eyes in this let's play.
When they got married I wad smiling like a doofus the whole time along with Mark
+Booper Dooper Nice username xD
+Booper Dooper I'm sure I saw you on a matthias video or that was the other guy
Probably me xD
I change my picture a lot but it's always been a picture of Jack if that helps
So did I, when I played the game for the first time :,)
It seems that John loved River very much, maybe they knew one another from childhood. River at some point in her life was diagnosed with a condition that may have been autism or some other neurological disorder that caused issues for River to establish connections with other people. At the beginning John was patient with River, until the disease became too much. Her illness progressed to the point where she was making paper rabbits obsessively. She probably chose the rabbit because she interpreted it as an innocent being whose life was cut off unjustly, she loves the lighthouse because it was the source of happy memories for her and John. I am probably completely off in left field, but this game is lovely and it is fun trying to analyze it and John and River's tragic relationship.
And I do enjoy reading theories of those that haven't played the game. I won't say much due to spoilers but let's just say a tiny part of it is right. ;)
Oh I can hardly wait to see the end of this game. :D
Very good. I don't remember the rabbit thing but everything else is pretty spot on. You are going to LOVE the ending. It legit made me cry.
why always asuming its autism ? lets just wait until they tell us about what is her diagonsize .... well if they ever will
It's probably not autism, whatever disorder that River has is probably going to be left up to the interpretation of the player.
14:08 - 16:15 I love that scene because I have Aspergers Syndrome and they hit the nail on the head describing it.
+TheBlackDemon1996 I also have assburgers syndrome :3
ScandinavianGuy ... -_- I'd be mad... but I used to call it "assburgers syndrome" too.
Hehe
when you first hear it, it does sound like it says that and you can never UNhear it Never. however serious it is...the name is still absolutely ridiculous it's good it changed to Autism because that makes a Little more sense then Aspergers...scientists always come up with the weirdest names for shit, like the fear of long words is absolutely a joke
***** ...You do realize it was named after the guy who discovered it right?
Johnny and River + referance of the TARDIS.
Doctor calls himself John Smith and his wife River Song + referance to the TARDIS.
MIND BLOWN.
THANK YOU! I am not the only one to realize this. I screamed Doctor Who as soon as I heard John and River. When he played a song I knew she was River Song
BanditBoo3652 Omgggg yas
I've literally been thinking that this whole time!!!
one flaw is the last name. oh well.
one flaw is the last name. oh well.
Anyone else notice what River meant when she asked Johnny to describe the rabbit? On their wedding day I noticed when they found the dead rabbit. River is wearing a blue and yellow dress. Between the fantastic story telling and just how much the pieces get my mind going, I'm loving this series a lot so far.
My god o.o
I don't think so. I think the rabbit was meaning to the moon. Since John took the beta blockers, he wasn't able to remember the first time they met (The reason why he was so drawn to River).
@@pai8117 I know it's like years, but cmon dude at least warn people
Notice how River's dress at the wedding are the same two colors as the multicolored origami rabbit. Blue and yellow.
Whoa...Didn't notice that!
"shouldn't have tainted our first meeting like that"
me as a rewatcher: "bUT IT WASN'T!!!!" *cries*
that's fine! totally understandable - i see where you're coming from :)
That's what River's mad about. But she can't express it, and Johnny doesn't remember it because... well... you know...
wa whoa, I read this comment the second Markiplier read that out
Jessemae D Good lord, spoilers much.
I would totally watch an episode of the Doctor trying to get a piano through the doors of the TARDIS.
Same
but the TARDIS can materialise around things... would be a short episode...
A 100%.
The TARDIS CAN, but the TARDIS's controls are janky. Imagine it just being totally uncooperative, so they have to try to get the piano through the door. In the end, the doctor realizes he forgot to flip some switch or something and his companion gets miffed that they spent an entire hour trying to get the damn thing in there.
Imagine 10 and Rose trying to take it apart and put it back together XD
It feels so weird! Watching this life unfold backwards is so bittersweet. You see the happiness in the younger years but already know how it all ends. the game tugs at your heartstrings, especially with the dance in Anya and the talk with Isabelle.
THIS is a timeless series...
Awwww, this is so sweet. I can empathize with much of this because I was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome (Now a part of Autism Spectrum Disorder as of May 22, 2013 in accordance with DSM V) and the actress analogy is so touching because it's true. Everyday "high" functioning autistics must pretend to be socially normal, observing and processing every behavior displayed by the individuals they are conversing with and consciously decide what to do in response. It's not automatic like with neurotypicals and it teaches us to be great actors and delve into what it means to be human on the most basic level. We also like writing comments that don't really have to do with anything I guess...
I suddenly feel like I should point out something.
I like everything about this game, except for one tiny little detail: this isn't a game.
Now that's not necessarily a bad thing, but, seriously, this is *not* a game.
The story, as far as I can tell, does not change. Whatever the player does does not affect the gameplay in any way. Apart from those puzzle pieces there just isn't *any* gameplay at all, to be honest. You can't lose, you can't change anything, this isn't even a quest, you need to do stuff in quests, while here you're just along for the ride, occasionally clicking on stuff to see what happens.
This isn't a game, this is an interactive graphic novel.
That being said, this is one of my favorite stories of all time.
a game is a competitive activity or challenge.
or can be seen as "an activity that one engages in for amusement." - Google definition.
so yes technically this is a game.
Oohhh, so its a game huh, okay got it! Thanks!:D
Its very much like an interactive story. It falls into the same category as the Tell Tale games The Walking Dead and The Wolf Among Us, except you can change more in them.
I think it is still a game, just not one in the traditional sense.
Your right. its more of a Tailtale game with a bit of puzzle solving. Either way its a damn nice game to watch.
draggy76 I don't think it falls in the same category as in those specific games, as in those games, your actions actually affect the future.
I can't explain how happy it makes me to see a character in such a detailed and well-made game that has Autism. As someone who has Aspergers myself, it means an awful lot. More than I can say.
I just realized. River has her own song. River Song. I would say more about that, but spoilers.
I see what you did there.
***** There is 17 of you? Can I meet them? That would be the BEST PARTY EVER!
Brilliant!
Legomaster Long story.
Aww- can not stress how much that the song is called "For River" I know you're being all happy but god damn... but just say the correct name....
A) DOCTOR WHO REFERENCE. I NEED THIS GAME NOW.
b) This is so sweet and cute and hnnnnngh. It's so well put together! I absolutely love this!
C) I'm pretty sure River is Autistic. I myself am still waiting on a second opinion about me being Aspergers. My two best friends, Andrew and Katie, are both Autistic, too. Andrew has his quirks.... He stutters, and has a poor sense of judgement sometimes, is flighty and inatentive, and speaks like an upper class gentleman. Katie has her own as well. She's quiet and conservative, constantly paranoid, and always picks at her hair. I myself have learned in the last 4 years howbto act normal, but I have times when I don't... Typically when I get upset. Naturally, I am very childish and immature. I require a security blanket (my plushies) and tend to pick up on others' mannerisms. I also bite my nails. Not everyone who is Autistic is the same, but paranoia seems to be, on some level, a very common factor.
I have paranoia at night, so I guess autism typically has paranoia in some shape.
I wonder if her name River is also a reference to doctor who. Probably not but you never know.
I have paranoia at night as well, I also bite my nails. I have ways of acting normal, but I tend to not act normal when I am at home with none except my mother. I have found I have an extreme problem, I have bitten my nails so much they bleed, and it has become a very strong addiction I can't find a way to take control of.
Videogame Fan Try to slow down how much you chew your nails. It's worked for me, my nails are still stubby but they don't bleed. If that doesn't work, see a professional who specializes in addictions.
Nameyo Pootis Thank you, I've already tried slowing down with my nail biting addiction, but I just can't help myself. I would just find myself biting my nails and I can't stop, but thank you anyways. I hadn't even realized I could talk to a professional about this until you mentioned it.
At 14:30 Mark got really into the dialogue and my heart really felt for John and River. Shows how powerful a good narrator with a good story can be.
As someone on the spectrum, even all these years later this section makes me cry. It feels like mark understands what he's reading, at least at a basic level
Mark, her disease does definitely affect the brain. What she has is Aspergers syndrome. People with this fixate on one particular thing, appear awkward or shy when associating with others, and showing no emotion towards anything. Some even have a mind that hardly matures. They stick to a child's way of thinking. Those that have it, it must be difficult to go through.
I've got family members that have it, so I get to see a small glimpse of what it's like for John. I can't possibly touch what River's going through though.
As the mother of a daughter who is also like River, I can tell you from first hand experience that my little girl acts a lot like her. There are times when she wants to be alone, others where she's able to "appear" normal. Its really painful for me inside knowing that my little girl will always be like this. Be that as it may I love my little girl to death and I do my best to take care of her.
As someone who has Asperger's..... yes. That's a lot what it's like. It's hard.... because people don't get me much. But I find my happiness where I can....
I have autism
Ummm
Aw thank you Donna ^_^
This is even sadder watching the story from the top (or rather, from the end) again, knowing what happens in their past and how all these little, seemingly random notes fit together. It's really a beautiful story, simultaneously heartbreaking and heartwarming.
Also, don't worry too much about missing stuff or not doing the puzzles perfectly; the game is quite linear, and as far as I recall, aside from a small optional part that unveils something about Neil himself, the story plays out the same no matter what. But what it lacks in branching gameplay and exploration, it truly makes up for with one hell of a story.
I'm so glad Mark is playing this! I've always found his commentary more interesting and thoughtful, and I think he'll understand To the Moon better than some of the others I've watched.
The thing i enjoy most about this LP, and what always brings me back to re-watch it, is how much Mark seems to love the story, and gets into it. It really is a great story, and it's a pleasure watching this over, no matter how many times i see it.
You really should know what the Emperor's New Clothes is Mark.
It's a short tale by Hans Chrisitan Andersen
A vain Emperor who cares about nothing except wearing and displaying clothes hires two swindlers who promise him the finest, best suit of clothes from a fabric invisible to anyone who is unfit for his position or "hopelessly stupid". The Emperor's ministers cannot see the clothing themselves, but pretend that they can for fear of appearing unfit for their positions and the Emperor does the same. Finally the swindlers report that the suit is finished, they mime dressing him and the Emperor marches in procession before his subjects. The townsfolk play along with the pretense, not wanting to appear unfit for their positions or stupid. Then a child in the crowd, too young to understand the desirability of keeping up the pretense, blurts out that the Emperor is wearing nothing at all and the cry is taken up by others. The Emperor cringes, suspecting the assertion is true, but continues the procession.
It's a pretty funny story, I like it.
Two things: 1) I loved that story and I never knew that was the name for it, so maybe Mark is in the same situation, 2) I'm glad that you are one of the commenters that doesn't say how stupid Mark is for not knowing something, and then fail with your grammar. So for those reasons you get a gold star, the TickleScrote Army Seal of Approval, and a cookie. :3
Shut the fuck up.
I have a book with all of Hans Chrisitan Andersen's stories and that one is great.
it is one of the funniest stories i have ever read
You do not need to know the end of the game to know that The Emperors new Clothes is a mirror to To the Moon
2 Individuals (the cloths makers, and the scientist)
give the single individual (the King, and Johnny)
an object that could be real but is otherwise False (The cloths, and the Moon)
The Emperor's new clothes was written by the danish writer Hans Christian Andersen, who in Denmark is still a really popular writer :) The story is about a selfish Emperor who wears only the most beautiful clothes anyone has even saw. One day two men tricks him to believe that he is wearing the most prettiest clothes in the whole land, but in reality he is only wearing underwear. Then he walks out on the streets with his underwear, and everyone sees it. No one says anything about it, only a little boy who yelles "He hasn't any clothes on!". (I hope this made any since at all :D )
It made sense, but where's the punch line? the moral of the story? the fucking dragon?
hacksis119 Hmm? I don't know. Really i don't...Maybe River want's John to speak up if he has a problem, and not hide it? That's my best guess.
hacksis119 Moral? Don't be a foolish, materialistic, selfish person I suppose?
You forgot one important thing: Everyone was pretending to see the clothes, since the two men said that whoever couldn't see them was either incompetent or stupid. But after the boy said that the Emperor isn't wearing any clothes, everyone realised why they couldn't see the clothes.
Also, I'm pretty sure Hans Christian Andersen well known in Europe, not just Denmark. :)
Monika Šega Oh yeah i forgot! :) I only said what the story was about and forgot to give the details :) And of course H.C Andersen is not only popular in Denmark :) He is also known in Europe for his other storys: The ugly duckling and The princess and the pea, and many others :)
Mark gets so passionate reading the different characters... I love it. He's so invested in the story and he makes it obvious.
"Be still, my beating heart," and "Butterflies in my soul," are the cutest things you have ever said Mark. Whatever woman you eventually find in your life had better be hard as a rock, but still melt from your soft heart.
It’s really sad when you remember River is able to recall that first meeting with Johnny which translates to the rabbits. However, those memory blockers makes so he doesn’t. When Johnny told River of the reason he first went to talk to her, he truly thinks that the first time they seemly interacted but for River she still thinks the first time was at the carnival. It’s a disconnect neither understand about each other & almost can’t understand.
As someone who was and still is a huge Animorphs fan, I was practically screaming "LION" at the video. Game got it wrong; David had a cobra *pet*, but it was Marco who got the morph.
(Also, the author is K. A. Applegate)
Also as someone who is on the Autism spectrum with Asperger's Syndrome, I picked up on that hint way back when the game first mentioned all the rabbit origami.
KudaKeileon It's speculated that the inaccurate answer for the Animorph question is a hint towards Johnny's faulty memory, as everything in these scenes all stem from it. That's why a lot of people outside of main characters are silhouettes, b/c John can't remember them clearly enough.
+KudaKeileon Ack me too! and then when the game said cobra I doubted everything I've ever known... I should reread those
I've had a theory since the beginning, but the TARDIS reference I think confirmed it. So the two characters who you're observing, John and River, are named after The Doctor and River Song, and John is because every time he would go under cover he'd name himself John Smith.
To be fair, an episode of Doctor Who dedicated to trying to get a piano into the TARDIS sounds a hell of a lot better than Time of The Doctor
TRUTH.
This is such a good series.
Let's never forget
You know... if that technology actually existed, this would be an amazing job other than the whole invading privacy and rewriting the memory of the soon-to-be-deceased...
I mean, they don't do it unless the client agreed to it.
River has Aspergers, which is why she can't directly tell John the reasons for her behaviours.
yes, but she does have specific reasons for what she's doing~
I guessed that to because I have aspergas syndrome and I know the daily struggles of trying to fit in to social situations. 😊
FemaleAnimeMaster
Asperger's is a form of autism
werekitty93
I know.
FemaleAnimeMaster
wait what im confused, aspergers IS a type of autism...
I really like when Mark looks at these rpg story driven games. A few people seemed to worry that Mark wouldn't take it seriously, but I am thoroughly enjoying this. Mark just has a good voice for narration and this game has a pretty good balance of serious subject matter and comedy relief.
The fact that the game does have a comedic side also allows for Mark's goofiness to not seem out of place.
You wanna know what I think? You really wanna know what I think? I think....hour long episodes! :D
You know how to think, sir!
Amen to that!
Guys, This man is our hero.
I would agree to that except that it'd probably be a nightmare for him to upload. Lol
We have a connected hive mind. WE DEMAND HOUR LONG EPISODES!!!
As far as I remember from my literature classes, The Emperor's News Clothes is a book about two weavers that make clothes and give one to the emperor after telling him that the clothes are invisible to those unfit for something, I can't remember what exactly. What I do remember about the story is that the emperor wanted to show off his new extravagant clothes but ended up walking necked through the street because they were invisible.
Now I really want to know how this story relates to this game.
To elaborate:
Two scammers pretended to be weavers for the extravagant, selfish king who would wear only the finest clothing. He hired them, and they said that (IIRC) only sinners and imbeciles were unable to see the clothes. And so, when the emperor went to show off his new clothing, everyone pretended to be capable of seeing the clothing except for one little boy.
More or less: adammuto.tumblr.com/image/34846222031
he diddnt get clothes! they lied! he just walked around the street in his underwear!
viper gamezz
I got a vague memory about the story since the literature class I'm mentioning is about 8 to 9 years old. So I can't recall every detail of the story or the talking of my teacher that lead me to falling asleep on my desk.
hahah okay! it can be realy boring!
I hope Mark plays the sequel to To The Moon!!! I know this is an old video but here's to hoping!!
I can honestly say I have never been more connected to a character than I have with River and Isabelle. The hinted mental disability is most definitely autism. The difficulty in expressing emotion, the hyper-focusing and obsession with things, and the lack of understanding other's emotions and reasoning. River, Isabelle, and I all have high-functioning autism (for me specifically, it's Aspergers).
And my god, Isabelle's speech about acting normally is so on point and real that I had to pause the video to recollect myself. I was diagnosed with "Mood Disorder Otherwise Unknown" at about 6 or 7, a fancy term doctors use for "something's wrong with your kid but we don't know what". I was given medicine for schizophrenia and ADHD, which didn't help at all, other than sometime's making me woozy. They couldn't give me anything that actually helped because autism still wasn't something doctors could easily diagnose kids with. So I had to learn how to act.
Isabelle's monologue captures almost the entirety of being raised to act neurotypical, but she did leave out on one thing that I experience so often: belonging to neither community. You are well enough to socialize with people, perhaps seem odd or quirky to them, but when you get down to it, you /arent/ like them. You cringe at certain sounds and can't touch certain fabrics. A lot of times human contact feels wrong and a lot of people take that the wrong way and think you don't like them. You miss certain jokes, can't handle parties or concerts, and when you tell people you're autistic they laugh and look at you confused and say "No you're not. You're normal".
You're not well enough to belong with the other neurotypicals fully, and the neurodivergent community isn't as open to you either. In my experiences I've had to join programs and special classes for jobs and school work. This is my last year of high school and in multiple classes I was denied my accommodations because the teachers thought I was being lazy or that I wasn't trying hard enough. In their eyes, I wasn't disabled enough. That's the worst part of having to act. You're unintentionally outcasted from both sides. I feel Isabelle's envy so badly. Sometimes I wish I was just left with what I was a child, and not taught how to act so that I could get the help I /need/ without having to scream and beg and write emails and have meetings months prior for even a consideration.
I wasn't even diagnosed until I was a freshman three years ago. I didn't even know what I was for the first 14 years of my life. And man this just got ranty and sad but I just want to say how much I appreciate this game! How much these characters mean to me! I've watched Cry play it, I've watched Pewdiepie, and now I'm watching Mark! I'm so thankful! It means so so much to me because even if River's autism isn't the central idea of this game, it means something!! It's educating and real and happy and also kinda bittersweet. It's me! It's all the others who have it!! I haven't even met another girl with autism before and the first time I see it in a game it's with two of them!!!
So just...now it's my turn to thank you Mark. You always say how we've made you happy and know that with you playing this game, you've made me happy in return. I can't wait until the next update man, I'm looking forward to this.
I love that there are so many references in this game! I would love to see the Doctor (either David Tennant or Peter Capaldi) try some hair brained idea to move a baby grand piano with the TARDIS. I also find it funny how there is a Doctor Who reference in this game an the wife's name is River, as in River Song. From the clues and the way the characters talk about her condition I suspect that she might be on the autism spectrum, probably Aspergers since they refer to it as a "syndrome". My younger cousin is on the spectrum also, his condition is much more severe but he is a sweet heart.
And also, the Doctor often goes by the name *John* Smith. John and River? Funny coincidence (or not?) c:
Lol Yassssssssss ^_^
It's so uplifting seeing a guy's heart get touched by adorable moments like that. It seems to be a rare thing I find. Thank you Mark. :) This lovely story is getting sadder and sadder. I love it, but it seriously pulls on the heart strings.
omg i thought he was joking about not knowing "The Emperor's New Clothes"
me too!lol
short steps
deep breath
everything's alright
chin up
i cant
step into the spotlight
she said
im sad
some how
without any words
i just
stood there
searing for an answer
when this world is no more
the moon is all we'll see
ill ask you
to fly away with me
until the stars all fall down
they empty from the sky
but i don't mind
if your with me
then everything's alright
why do
my words
always
lose there meaning
what i feel
what i say
there such a rift
between them
he said
i cant
really seem to
read you
i just
stood there
never know what
i should do
when this word is
no more
the moon is all we'll see
ill ask you
to fly away with me
until the stars all fall down
they empty from the sky
but i don mind
if your with me
then everything's alright
if your with me
then everything's
alright
i did that from memory, its called everything's alright and its from this game. i truly love this game. true butterfly's in my soul
+Holly Smith I love that song so much. I usually cry from hearing it. I also listen to it when I feel down or depressed (which is often...). The song was actually suggested to me at first by my boyfriend. Its also in my top five favorite songs.
That's my favorite song!!😍
I love how adorable this game is and how much Mark gushes with the adorableness. It's so cute I just want to hug him and cuddle him!
While I could say many things about River's condition (NOT disease mind you, Autism is just another way of living life!), instead I'm going to sit back and wait in anticipation as Markiplier approaches the worst part of the entire game:
THE HORSE RIDING SEGMENT
river doesnt have autism
Bryan enhsb River has Asperger's Syndrome, which is a form of Autism.
***** although it does quite the opposite.
i have asperger's and my iq is higher than most, while autism tends to lower one's IQ.
so really, it shouldnt be considered a form.
Bryan enhsb What about a savant then? Someone with autism who also has a high IQ? Or am I confusing my terms: please correct me if I am. :p Have a pleasant day!
***** someone with asperger's has a high IQ. someone with actual autism has a low IQ
The Emperor's New Clothes is a short tale by Hans Christian Andersen about two weavers who promise an Emperor a new suit of clothes that is invisible to those who are unfit for their positions, stupid, or incompetent. When the Emperor parades before his subjects in his new clothes, no one dares to say that he doesn't see any suit of clothes until a child cries out, "But he isn't wearing anything at all!"
Shit man that's deep
"The ending isn't any more important than any of the moments leading to it." That's actually really profound! I had to actually pause the video to absorb it. Kinda makes disappointments fade away. (I wanted ice cream, I never got the ice cream, but at least I was happy for a period while waiting for it.)
Also who else thinks that Mark does a great old man voice?
Animorphs man...Applegate certainly knew how to write standalone stories. And I love that they mentioned David, his story arc was seriously dark and I love that it really highlighted how good of an "actress" Rachel was.
i know!
I think i'm not the first one to think this, but, I want to state my opinion on why I like to watch Mark play these type of games ( Sad RPG, horror RPG and all that): He takes it as it is and respect it, he doesn't go too overboard and when he does, he admits it, he also keep it entertaining at the most important part, and interested at the emotional part. For someone like Pewdie, I don't think it fits someone like him to play this game and keep it emotional ( Here me out Pewdiepie fans!) I like the Pews and I like his gameplay, his Amnesia video cracks me up, but he has only one pattern of gaming and that's being goofy, it just doesn't serve this particular game justice.
Yep. I agree. Of the TH-camr's I've seen play this, I think Mark and Cry are the ones who truly do it justice. Quiet when it's appropriate, don't make light of the serious elements, and are honestly engage in the story.
Thank you for seeing my point! I mean, pewdiepie himself took a picture of his most dislike video and that was an LP of To the moon, i'm not even kidding!
3 years later I came back to watch this series again (because it's an amazing series ) and I only just realised that River is the lady from the beginning in the picture wearing blue and yellow. That's probably also the significance of the blue and yellow origami rabbit! .....I'm super dumb 😅
The sequel to this game, "Finding Paradise", has finally been released Mark! Please play it!
I just have to say this, Mark's voice is amazing! Like, he's so into these little voices he does for these characters and I love it! (^_^) He has a perfect voice for voice acting, not just talking but, singing too
There are things in this game that reviewing it and seeing it again all these years later, I just am blown away with the storytelling. Such an incredible series.
"Butterflies in my soul" sounds like a name for a great love song or something! I might write a poem and give it that title some day!
Up until I saw this game, I thought I was different from all the other austistic people and for a while, thought that the psychologist was wrong. I was diagnosed with a VERY slight bit of aspergers syndrome. Nobody can tell, so I can relate to Isabelle. Though when I was little, it was bad, but found early. So me and my parents worked hard for years to make me "normal" . I fully understand and feel exactly, what Isabelle said. It's rare to find a game about this. Usually games commonly use other sensitive topics such as depression, and suicide, which yes, is a big issue as well.
I've watched this play through so many times and I still can't get over how adorable the lighthouse and horse cutscenes are and Mark's reactions make it all the better! I really enjoyed seeing a more plot focused game with laid back gameplay. I hope you find more to do in the future, they suit you well, Mark!
It's games like this that I feel bring out the "old" mark... I liked the old mark better...
Horror is old Mark. You're talking summer of 2013 mark.
***** Well that is still old mark xD. Probably just started around that time you know?
ajtnt14 A year in gaming is a lot. But you really cannot say a year is old in life.
***** A year is certainly a small amount of time to me but I don't know if someone else feels the same ^^" I don't know where this guy was coming from or how he thought so I was just saying >~
Every Mark you watch is technically the "old" Mark.
Oh, I'm pretty sure they did more than dance til dawn ;)
+JFairy ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
more then the dancing movement showed us :p
+JFairy DAAAAAAAAAMN
That dance was really beautifully done. The music in the game really does affect how you feel when certain scenes come up.
7:04 Oh the Doctor Who references... And really, all it would take is the TARDIS materializing around the piano.
Yeah but the piano looks bigger than the perimeter of the TARDIS in it's original Blue Box form. Maybe The Doctor is able to increase the size of the TARDIS. Since when dying, the TARDIS size manipulation powers down and increases in size. But then again, the Boneless sucked energy from her and made her shrink. I don't know.
But that would take all the fun out of it. ;}
Is Mark a romantic? That's so cute!
Aww! Kinda seems like it, huh?
That moment with them dancing in the light house was adorable. Watching Markiplier react to that adorable moment was the adorablist.
I'd definitely watch an episode of doctor who where the whole episode is just the doctor trying to move a piano to another room...
moth imagine 10 and Rose trying to take it apart and put it back together again XD
I don't know if I'm just thinking in the comments or if I even want anyone to answer me, but, does River have Asperger's? Is that why she clings so tight to little things that invoke so little emotion in ourselves because we already have so many feelings? Like a dead rabbit or a pretty lighthouse? Because any feeling at all is special to her?
Yep', it's that x)
***** I think this could help
www.webmd.com/brain/autism/mental-health-aspergers-syndrome
I think she does too.
If you're thinking that River is clinging on to this roadkill rabbit, you're wrong. I'm not going to spoil anything, but it has a much greater meaning
Aspergers is usually defined by a "mild" inability to socialize and the occasional obsession of various objects and/or themes. It's usually paired with one or more other disorders, ADHD, for example.
I really love this game. It has such a beautiful story and its interesting to find out the things that make River and John who they are in the end. Such a beautiful story.
Oh, so many references in this game, I love it!
And yes, there needs to be an episode of the Doctor trying to move a piano into the TARDIS, a minisode maybe, I'd watch that, haha c:
I would gladly watch an episode of the Doctor trying to get a piano into the TARDIS; but only if it was 11 because I miss Matt. He was a good Doctor. And cute; teehee.
Another note on this specific video, I LOVE Animorphs! I read every one of the main story books, though only I think 2 of the side books written. I still have my books, but I haven't re-read them in awhile.
They're a touch more mature then the name might let on at first blush, which is one of the things I loved so much about them. They're also special because a good friend of mine I lost touch with long ago introduced me to them, I got hooked easily.
I want to watch this so bad but it is so late and I need to go to sleep. So I'll leave a comment anyway and come back to this in the morning.
Know how Ya feel. I used to stay up all night to watch Markiplier's "The Last of Us" series.
Check Yoself I'm on episode 11 of my re-watch of that as we speak.
(The feels, though. :'( )
Mark if you haven't figured out what she was trying to do with the rabbit she left him I will tell you. In this video what color is her dress. The top is blue. The bottom is yellow. The colors of the rabbit represent the dress she wore on her wedding day. Depending on her illness many use art as a way to give emotion a form. To give a memory a form. Many times they don't know how to express themselves and instead turn it into art. In her case origami bunnies.I have yet to understand the platypus.
It's "explained" in part 7, if you haven't watched it.
Watching the look she gives him when he says "our first meeting", and watching him throw the hackey sack, is so heart-wrenching once you understand everything…
The first grid he did, when he was saying he didn't get it, I was like 'MARK. YOUR AWESOME AND ALL BUT YOU ARE DOOPID IF YOU DONT GET THIS'
And then he said he couldn't tell the difference between the grid and the white paper.
So... Ill except it this once =w=
*clearly joking*
You're* yes I know.
ME TOO
I feel like the thing River wants John to say is that the blue and yellow origami rabbit is unique...
Or something among those lines. XD
((I Could be completely wrong.. BUT DO NOT SPOIL LOL)
That's not it; it's connected to something in the earliest childhood memories towards the end of the game.
Ehehehe, you'll understand sooooon!!
You are in a way correct, but I cannot explain further. It's best you simply let the game tell you itself.
It won't be perfectly obvious, though. I only just realized it watching Mark's playthrough, and this is the fourth time I've watched/played through the storyline.
I decided to play this game for myself after I saw the first 2 videos. I finished the entire game in one sitting. It was amazing and yes I admit it, I cried a little. I recommend it to anyone who has $10 to spare. It's just so amazing and heart wrenching and just overall a good game with an amazing story.
Got to the part where Johny threw the sack; I'm crying. :) Too many f***ing messages that you'll need to replay the game to see in their truest beauty.
I just realized how that whole thing went, after playing though and watching this game about 4 times now.. 'Would you?' ..and he did. I never knew just how important that moment was.
God I love Kan Gao's storytelling. He's fantastic.
Lemoncake Logan Wait, explain to me what happened please? :D
Nicolas K He can't Mark has yet to beat this game, and other viewers have yet to know the progression of the game. Indeed Lemoncake Logan, too many amazing moments are presented with this games replay-ability.
Nicolas K As Adam said, I can't explain. It wouldn't be right to ruin it for you and anyone who happened to see this thread.
If you'd like to watch an already completed play-through by another silken-voiced, story-loving dude, watch 'Cry Plays: To the Moon'.
Cry's an outstanding guy, and he was who I first experienced this story through.
._. how deep is this game ....?
Sorry for all the comments but Sorry Mark I just thought you had read it...The Basic plot of the story is this....A vain Emperor who cares about nothing except wearing and displaying clothes hires two swindlers who promise him the finest, best suit of clothes from a fabric invisible to anyone who is unfit for his position or "hopelessly stupid". The Emperor's ministers cannot see the clothing themselves, but pretend that they can for fear of appearing unfit for their positions and the Emperor does the same. Finally the swindlers report that the suit is finished, they mime dressing him and the Emperor marches in procession before his subjects. The townsfolk play along with the pretense, not wanting to appear unfit for their positions or stupid. Then a child in the crowd, too young to understand the desirability of keeping up the pretense, blurts out that the Emperor is wearing nothing at all and the cry is taken up by others. The Emperor cringes, suspecting the assertion is true, but continues the procession.
I just did the same thing, but yours was MUCH better!
sapherno11 Na I read yours its fine I just copy and pasted from the wiki real quick is all LOL. I tend to keep forgetting how much older I am then Mark or a lot of his subscribers (48) and I guess I just think ppl have read all the books that I have LOL! But its an epic story
Mntdewmania il bleieve you are 48 when you take down the minecraft picture off your profile
ProGamerShow Nick LOL nope can't do I love my pirate Queen its the first and only skin I've had since I began playing minecraft and my son picked her out. Sorry Pirate Queen chick stays :)
ProGamerShow Nick
I'll* Believe* Do proof read... also not everyone who plays minecraft is a child and trust me. if you attempt to deny that that was your point.... well i can simply tell you you're wrong.
It is rare when a moment in a game can make me smile like an idiot and feel so happy inside, but that moment when they danced in the lighthouse did it for me. This is such an amazing game, thank you for playing it Mark, I would have never discovered it otherwise :).
Emperor's New Clothes is about an emperor that goes to weavers and asks them to make a robe.The weavers claim they're making a robe out of a fabric that's so fancy, people who are dumb or unworthy can't see it. Obviously that's a lie. Nobody wants to admit they can't see the fabric, though, so a city wide charade commences. The emperor goes to a parade wearing nothing while him and others pretend they see the robe and grovel at its opulence. A kid doesn't buy into the hype and points out the emperor is naked. People finally concede to the kid's observation, while the emperor refuses to acknowledge he was swindled.
that would be a great episode of dr who it would be great
as you say mark, i really like the heart in this game. it does a great job at telling its heartfelt story. its not really much on game play though. watch the characters talk, a minimal amount of environmental exploration and some simple puzzles to solve. i think this would do just as well as an animated story book as it would as a game
interestingly enough, animorphs was the first full length book i read all the way through as a kid
Oh holy shit. If this is about autism, this game just stepped one level up on the emotional connector. I can RELATE to that shit.
Same, my brother is autistic
+Skylar & Ally LPS mine is as well
Yes, River's condition is similar to Asperger's.
If you rematch it many times, you catch things you didn't before.
I've seen this game at least eight different times, and played it at least four.
But, yes.
Emotions.
But... Mark... You have no idea how thankful I am for you. Because of you I have lots of new friends, and even a girlfriend... I just copy you in my social life and I have gotten all of the friends.
And you said that, "We- well I can do what ever I want." Well I really just want to become just like you. I want to become a TH-camr just like you. You have given me the confidence to start my own channel and put me self out there for others to watch. I can't really do anything because I don't really have a lot of money to get any of the good recording soft ware.
I know people really like TH-cam videos because they have a facecam, well those are the kind of videos I like the most... The ones with facecams. I can't get a facecam because of where my life is at with money...Well... I have a camera, but I can't put my face in because I don't have any kind of recording software that has layers to where I can put it in...
It has always been my life dream to become a TH-camr and now I can- well at least try to become a TH-camr because of you. And for that... I thank you... so much, that... that you don't even understand... (No Homo) But... I love you.
That honestly made me tear up a little...
There is so much I want to tell you, but I shouldn't because it's to much to type...
I am sorry... But I am going to be posting this on your other videos untell you see this... Sorry...
Good
There is free stuff for recording software, just search carefully on the web
Pineapple TV: *Who lives in the pineapple under the sea?*
Me: *SHUT UP*
Same thing with me man but without the girlfriend (im so alone)
Alexandre Gareau
i do man i do
I have understood every reference (I believe, unless a few were sneaky) and it makes this game SO wonderful. It's funny, it's touching, and it's realistically sad. Amazing.
It's funny, i was thinking it might have been Autism as well... but can it really take until late adulthood to be diagnosed?
I just feel like that's a pretty long time for something that's supposed to change your life and social interactions forever.
Also I have Autism (high-functioning) and I never felt like I was acting... mostly because I'm a horrible actor but that's besides the point.... Am I making sense to anyone?
Do you.. Know what autism is?
A lot of different forms with a lot of different symptoms and severity... yes, it an take that long, and some not even diagnosed at all, I'm sure.
I don't know if it's appropriate to ask (I understand if it isn't) but would you mind explaining your case of autism? I know there are many types and all i know is it can make people socially detached.
Matthew Skulliton I feel like I should since I have it and it used to be rather severe growing-up but I always thought that there was the child diagnosed version of Autism and the later diagnosed version around early adulthood called Aspergers. But apparently it can take longer in some cases... The more you know.
I don't know if this counts as a game spoiler since they never specifically name River's condition anyway, but she has Asperger's Syndrome. They allude to it a lot though, like at one point there's a book in the game written by a real-life author that writes books about Aspergers, so if you know of the condition you'll pick up on hints like that.
Anyway, to answer your question, yes, it's possible for Asperger's to be diagnosed much later in life - as far as I know, it mainly affects one's social behaviors, and someone with Asperger's could potentially just be viewed as "shy" or "weird" for much of their life, and not actually be taken to see a doctor by their parents.
Yep, I'll write a story completely devoted to hauling a baby grand into the TARDIS. #fandomftw
The TARDIS phases in around the baby grand piano pulling it into the TARDIS. The END.
ReptiGeek Yes, but I have an idea about how to make it last an episode.
Laura Moore please do, i would be enthralled
I loved playing this game.. the music was so beautiful, the characters were wonderful, and the storyline is amazing! Really glad mark is playing this game. :D
To be honest, I find the story a little unfair. The guy loves River so much, but she only cares about Anya. And it's just so unfair on him because she decided to die herself and left her husband all alone for so many years in an ampty house. She just seems a bit selfish and like she doesn't care about him that much.
Just watch.... you will see how the tables turn.
You could also say Johnny is selfish too though.
He has said he has feelings for Anya.
Anya is the lighthouse. Of course he'll say he loves the lighthouse, it means a lot to his wife. Just wait for more of the story. It explains everything.
I think they're both selfish.
For people with autism, it's difficult for them to express interest or love with people they care about. They find it hard to share their feelings or connect in the way people deemed as normal do. They often become hyper focused on one thing that they like to make them happy.
For River, I don't think it's because she cared more for Anya than she did for John, it's just that the lighthouse was such a big part of her life (you'll see why later on) that she became hyper focused on protecting and caring for Anya. And since John shows the same interest in Anya, River sees that as a way for them to connect.
Even if John doesn't care for Anya all that much, he's unintentionally lead River to believe that he loves Anya as much as she does. She expressed her love for John through her love for Anya; the only way she knew how to connect. And when they spend time at the lighthouse, caring for Anya, that's how River says, "I love you."
It's been a while since I read Animorphs... Was there a character named David? o-o Well if anything I'm leaning to his main morph being a tiger...
Hold on let me organize my thoughts
Ax is the Weird alien thing
Uhh... I can't remember her name but she's a brunette, her morph is aaaaa.... wolf?....
Can't remember her name but she is blond and her main morph iiiiss.... nope can't remember that one
Forgot his name but he was the one trapped in a morph which is a Red-tailed eagle or something...
This guy is like the leader and his main morph is a Tiger I'm pretty sure it is.
Someone help me out. r dont I'll probably look it up later I just wanted to see if I could get it off the top of my head...
*Looks at **19:35*
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OHHHHHHH XD
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But she forgot Ax ._.
IcyFlame Power Well now that I think about it, Ax's main morph is Human since he is originally an alien...
IcyFlame Power *looks at **19:39* xD
I remember reading animorphs only 3-4 years ago. (I just happened to stumble upon it) it's remained one of my favorite book series, seeing these references brings back good memories!
IcyFlame Power Pretty sure it is Ix, that could be from The Last Dragon Chronicles though...
That track that plays during the naming of the lighthouse, "Anya By The Stars." My favorite track. God it's so beautiful.
Mark you should probably stop the people from posting links. They're all scams and people are falling for them because they disable replies.
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I usually try to report them for it. It's about all the more I can do.
I don't really like how this game portrays Asperger's, don't get me wrong, I like what it was trying to do with it but I feel that it was done in a backwards way. I have Asperger's, a lot of people have it really. I didn't learn about it until later in my life and I'm nothing like River. People think that if you have Autism you can't function and most people look at you differently, having Isabelle say that she fakes being normal doesn't help anything. I've known a lot of people in my life to deal with the condition, many of them where like Isabelle and diagnosed at a young age, and they tell me you can't "learn to be more normal". You can come to understand that not everyone thinks the way you do and sometimes that helps in communicating but that's all. In short, the Asperger's in this game is only portraying what it would be like to have only minor touches of the condition (like Isabelle) or to be so far on the other end of the spectrum that you have every effect of the condition to it's maximum possibilities (what you see in River), there is nothing to show what most people with it are really like. Most of us are stuck in a middle ground you never hear about, where society just calls you "weird". We're not quite River and not quite Isabelle.
"Everyone with it is different."
I have it. I've seen myself in every single part of the spectrum of the syndrome, so I know what each and every little extreme and all in between feels like. Many who have it are quite fortunate, but they are not always perfect, and often things are exaggerated. For someone like me who has had too much within my early life, I have a bit more trouble with pretty much everything.
It all depends on what they have in their life. Many have a lot and are well-off. Others aren't as fortunate.
Good dialogue fellow members.
***** Good point my friend :)
Philoso Raptor VOCABULARY FTW
I've had a lot of bad experiences in social interactions with people I'm not familiar with which has only made me become more and more distant. What's really terrible about it is that it can make me feel really depressed when it happens, or when I feel I've disappointed someone by not doing everything exactly the way they want me to and have done something wrong, the worst part of it all is that part where I forget how I felt and how I truly am, the part where my true nature gets swept away in a storm filled with bad jokes, psychotic desire, and the overwhelming awareness of how the cold air bends, curls, twirls and dances through and around my body filling it with an essence of insanity. Replacing the person who writes this comment with a cold blooded, unfeeling, deranged lunatic who takes his bad experiences to extreme amounts of hatred for the humanity who just wants to sweep them all away underneath a blanket of snow.
If you were to meet me you could say I'm shy at first before slowly warming up to you and becoming a happy funny guy to be around, but you would never though that none of that is my choice. If I could truly act out what I feel deep inside my twisted brain I would just sit in a corner all day and scream.
My only release is to be able to post my inner thoughts within small bursts to people who will never meet me, or people who truly won't react to it at all. As long as I can talk about it to someone who might give even the smallest semblance of a shit and can relate somewhat then I can feel as close to true happiness as I will ever get.
You cannot look at the person I usually identify as and truly think that I am happy, if you were to properly analyse my behavior it would probably be extremely apparent that I'm not happy, that my loneliness has just caused me to go completely mad. That's why I'm still alone, because I'm surrounded by imbeciles who cannot even begin to comprehend who I am and what I will be able to do when the time comes, I will continue to sit here and wait until its time that people finally got what's coming to them.
Whenever I see someone make a game like this, it reminds me that people have hearts and emotions. It`s a great thing, y`know.
MArk, they got married at the lighthouse, thats why its important!
it goes way beyond that. just wait. :)
Camila Domingues I've seen the game before, is there something I missed?
Was their first meeting there and I just didn't realize it?
Alatreon774 beyond that. River is obsessed with them ever since she was little. She thought the stars were lighthouses, and she always wanted to befriend one of them. She loves lighthouses.
Camila Domingues Ah. Just to clarify, they did meet where the lighthouse was or no?
Yes