Bro, your content is legit. I came across you several months ago, and I love football, and I love your videos about the player's lives off the field. Respect
Hell of a story. What did it for him was the fact this was captured on video. Had it not been on video, I think there's a solid chance he still would be playing
I was still in elementary school when the incident occurred, I still remember the day after and I saw the lunch lady taking down the Ray Rice Got Milk poster
Facts. Regardless he's talking about Last Chance U., or Kaepernick, or Luke Kuechly, or David Boston... man is top notch. ESPN/FS1 aren't worthy of him.
The Rices have continued counseling at a Christian center and say they no longer drink hard liquor. They have continued serious counseling to save their marriage and to save their family. I respect the work this young family put in to correct the wrongs in their relationship. Ray became a father actively involved as a dad and as a loving husband that takes the time to listen to his wife. My best wishes to the both.
Bro thats how I feel. Dude messed up plain and simple. But he seems like hasn't gotten into anymore altercations. In my eyes he isn't a bad person he just made a bad mistake like he said.
I might be a bit late on these but I think it's the 4th or 5th i've watched. Gotta say man, you're a great storyteller. Your explanation of all these guys and their complicated situations is so spot on dude, great job. :)
When I make a big mistake it’s, yelling at my wife when I get frustrated or mad. Not knocking her out cold on the elevator floor after spitting on her twice. Typically domestic violence is not a 1 time incident. It’s just amazing how we make excuses for celebrity’s.
I completely agree. The commentary’s message is that we have all had a bad night like this but luckily we had friends or people to stop us or back us. NO I have NEVER had a night like this. Most people haven’t it’s not normal…
@@Common_sense_commentary I didn't have a great childhood myself, but neither have I ever attacked another human being, let alone beat a much weaker and defenseless woman into unconsciousness
I turned 40 this year. I met my hubby my senior year in high school and his senior year in college. I was 17 and he was 22. We had a baby, bought a new car, bought a new house, and a saint bernard all b4 I was 21. I can tell you that we went through some SHIT in our 20's! At 40 and 45 now, we just now got our ish 2gether!
Man i miss ray rice i met him at his ray rice day at Calvert hall he was so cool to meet even tried to strip the ball from me i loved that guy when he played for us
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I'm in no way a football fan. I watch your channel because I like biographies. You really know how to flesh out a story, and make these guys seem like what they are...human. THAT'S why I continue to come back and watch your channel repeatedly. I may not watch it as soon as it drops, but I will always come and binge watch to catch up eventually. Like I'm doing right now.
When your parents don't approve, there's a problem. They see something you don't see because they have more experience and babe obviously lived much longer than you have. Boys and girls listen to your parents.
@@JUDAH-gi6te actually I DID Marry Ray Rice with the encouragement of my mother. I was 18 and he was 34. I only wish my mom had made me think about his bad temper and not giving her consent. I might have had a whole different life but she was just thinking about herself and her well-being not mine so...
@@debbiethompson14 you married someone that was old enough to be your dad. Way different situation sounds like the guy was married before he married you. Ray shouldn't had hit her but people can change for the better
@@JUDAH-gi6te no he was never married but he was very abusive. We're divorced now after 26 years. Anywho, I sure hope you're right about people changing but they have to want to change. My ex-husband is exactly the same only now he rewrites the past ... whatever. I never heard of Ray Rice before the incident so I don't know anything about him. All I know is what I saw and it was brutal. I can't imagine that was the first time she had her those specially the way he tapped her head with his foot. As a battered woman I can only say that we've been divorced for 18 years and I still get flashback. Even after so much spiritual work in recovery still be hard it can still be hard. I'll pray for both of them. It takes a certain kind of person to hit someone else that way as an adult. We Really have to look deeply at that.
FlemLo's explanation of what happened on the elevator left out a very important part, which is that when Ray walked on the elevator, he SPIT in her face and that is why she rushed toward him. That was actually the second time he spit on her with the first time being as she walked past him to get on the elevator. Also, literally NOBODY I know believed their media press run trying to explain the incident. It all felt fake and contrived. They did a horrible job trying to convince everyone that this was their first physical altercation. They literally wanted everyone to believe that they argued incessantly behind closed doors, but no punches were thrown, but yet this behavior happens after some drinks in public.
@@FtGFA Here we go with the anecdotal responses. There is no way to quantify 'most' domestic abuse is kept private. Battered people may not go to the police, but someone else usually knows unless this person has no social circles besides their relationship. At any rate, Ray Rice went and told on himself about what happened BEFORE anyone even saw the footage. Most abusive people are not going to do this.
She didn't even smile when he said his 2nd chance was right here. No emotion at all, which tells me that she hasn't moved on, she still in pain from it all and who can blame her?
Man I can’t believe she married him!! She seen the video the worst part was actually after when he just dragged her around the elevator like he couldn’t lift her off the floor?!?!!!! Just left her on the floor like a dog he don’t care about her. He wants to fix his image trying to get back the money he lost.
@@ryand4533 True. That’s the part no one ever discusses or points out. He even drops her at one point when the security guy is talking to him and asking him questions. Her head hits the floor hard. I think at that point the security guy likely said something along the lines of I have to call this in or I have to report this & Rice is just thinking of himself & not giving a crap about anything or anyone else.
@@Snarf_Le_Wombat Some of the women proudly proclaim their single motherhood, as if it is a badge of honor. Nothing honorable about that. If you are through no fault of yours ok. But to go around boasting how strong and wonderful you are for being a "single" mother" is a sad state of affairs. If it is by choice, why will you make such a horrible choice for your children.
@@Snarf_Le_Wombat Yah, I have heard 70%, but regardless it does much to explain the facts. Boys raised without dads have a hard time becoming men. Look at Chicago. And girls without dads may think dads are superfluous. Sad.
And remember if I recall correctly This was at the same time Adrian Peterson had abused his child with a whip from head to toe bruises. Like 3 or 4 years old. And he is STILL in the league!!!
AB and Peter are hall of fame talents and there was no footage. Personally I think they all should have been either banned or had 2 year suspensions minimum..
Well the ray rice moment was during the social media boom and the first moment like this. The thing that happened was on tv on repeat which made it worse and it was all over social media and the NFL wanted to sweep it under the rug. Now the NFL has to do things differently with helping the players is a lot more important optically which should be the most important thing.
@@seondeon6204 That’s debatable. It depends on the self love and self esteem of the woman… Furthermore money is a big deal to people that don’t have it. Some women have more than the man… so it’s debatable
Excellent piece on Ray Rice. As a Ravens fan, I was devastated when this happened. I'm glad that he got help, and they stayed together. It's good to hear him on local Baltimore sports talk radio shows. Glad I found your channel. Just subscribed. I know this story well, and you got it right.
So he beat his wife into submission, has no better route, neither does his wife...so they stick together and get through and work the media angle. Doesn't change the fact that he's a POS wife beater.
I gotta say .. the way your put this story out. Its a life story. Alot of people dont understand the truth of life. He was was wrong 1000%. But that family is together...... Amen
Dude Flemlo Raps is so badass i hope everyone recognizes how good we have it with his videos. Seriously show and share the love. Hope you and your family had a great Christmas and a good new year.
This just popped up in my recommended vids. Glad I watched. Your production quality is on point. Great job. Wishing you extreme success in the new year.
Dang bro. you make these stories come home. You straight up do your research and it shows with the details you dish out. Keep it real and bring it to us hot!! I believe your show is the best I've ever watched on sharing the lives of others. Money in yo pocket!
@@qadashchaayah144 Oc course. The dad in that was over the top evil. It's why the show was re-upped for 3 more years (25 total) though. They'll never run out of material. It's also bad how immediately your mind went to Chris Brown though, as did mine.
I’ve never understood the appeal of S.V.U., to be honest; their episodes have always struck me as watered-down, more exploitative variations of the original (superior) show’s procedural formula, with most of its faults and precious few of its strengths-up to and including its unfortunate tendency to play on people’s ignorance and prejudices towards major stories/incidents outside of what they hear or read in passing, often for the sake of cheap drama, ratings, and seasonal renewals to keep Dick Wolf solvent. :P If something like this WAS gonna be adapted for television in a police format, I feel like something more morally gray and complicated like “Hill Street Blues,” “Homicide: Life On The Street,” or “The Shield” would have been better suited to handle something like this. :/
@@christmashake8968 I still watch it cuz I'm 22 years in, but I could not agree MORE with that analysis. As mentioned above, the writers (Especially the last few years) have become too reliant on sensationalism. As my late dad told me as a kid, saying something is based on a true story/actual events is usually "a lie in disguise." People have been killed in the woods, but that doesn't make the Friday the 13th movies true stories. The Ray Rice episode did have a similar storyline (Football player KO'd wife on elevator camera), but the writers made the guy a monster to fit the narrative. A great Hollywood example is the "true story" boxing movie Cinderella Man. It's a GREAT movie about a former boxer who rose from extreme poverty during the Great Depression to the heavyweight title. The movie showed his opponent (Max Baer) as a heartless guy who cracked jokes about a guy he'd previously killed in the ring. The real-life Max was devastated after the fight, and even went on to help his family and pay for his childrens' educations. That didn't fit the narrative of good vs evil, though. I wish SVU would stop with the headline crap, or at least get it right if they continue. And I watched Hill Street Blues with my dad. THAT was a great show.
Almost 15 years married here. I'm glad our darkest moments weren't on camera. We got really, really low but rose above it, much like Ray and Jenae , and now are happier than we've ever been. Good for him for finding peace.
I still don’t understand how he never got a second chance when there’s so many dudes who have done far worse than Rice did. I was all for a long LONG suspension. But to never get a look again is crazy.
It was on camera, fans had the visual image of him knocking out a woman and dragging her like a caveman. Written police reports and arrests don’t have the same effect as that visual.
What a silly comment..It's not the wife's fault he can't control his actions. She was upset as well but she didn't put her hands on him. This only shows how comfortable he was hitting her and probably have done it on many occasions
@@tee2321 they said in an interview that was the only account of either of them hitting one another and this guy was saying he spoke it into existence that his dream would be killed not that she did it read listen and think more before trying to go all feminesta for no reason
Honestly, they said Antonio Brown would never step back on the field. Tom Brady said I need Antonio if I will have a chance to get another ring on a different team. Tom Brady hand picked his offense.. Antonio being top on his list... True Story. Do your research.....
Nah the issue with Ray was his productivity was down. No one wants to deal with the issues if your not good. Also at the time the NFL had a movement going to get more women fans. The NFL was advocating for Breast cancer awareness and other women's issues. It would've cost every NFL team to lose money for a guy who was only going to rush for 500 yards that next season.
He was so focused on the things he didn’t have career wise and neglected the blessing he had in front of him. God saw this and took away his distraction for him to evolve and focus on what’s important💯
@@nibsvkh that wasn’t the point of my comment which I see went over your head. Regardless of the intensity of the mistake he made he acknowledged it and reformed his self to become a better person. They’re doing good from where I’m standing and that’s what matters.🤷🏾♂️
@@Shabazzatta If that’s how you feel then I can’t take that away from you. If you believe he will and that he hasn’t changed that’s fine. But this guy literally made a video on all of his positive accomplishments since that event. I don’t see how it’s so hard to understand that people can change. The only way you can possibly be like that is if you see no positive in anyone.
I respect that you try to see another perspective on situations like this. However, I don’t believe this is a equatable to a “dark time in any young couples life “. If my wife and I are going through a hard time, we might have a separation or a verbal altercation but I will not strike her to the point of unconsciousness. Love your channel but feel this was quite a stretch.
The dude is a professional football player he should not have hit her at all but it would not take much from a professional football player who works out all the time to knock an average man out let alone a woman.
Listen, I was a huge fan of rays and those ravens teams of the early 2010s (still am) but knocking out your partner and dragging her from the elevator is a completely ridiculous moment that can’t be justified. The horror I will always get from that video is insane. I hope he’s in a better place but I’ll never be able to view him the same. Thank god he didn’t hit her hard enough to kill her.
He hit her plenty hard enough to kill her. Everyone involved is just blessed she didn't die. Remember, according to the word, she hit her head on the rail in the elevator. That alone could have ended her.
To be honest man like, on top of some personal life stuff from 2012 that made watching the Super Bowl not as fun as it could've been, this whole situation really made me quit watching the Ravens for a long time because like, you look at that video and all I can think is "man, the team was on THIS dude's back." It made it really impossible to enjoy the thought of the team for a very, very long time.
@@USALeonHeart I completely understand that. It’s taken me forever to be able to watch them play just because Ray rice was the best offensive when I was at my peak football and ravens fandom and it’s hard even now to separate them. Idk man bad stuff.
flemlo’s empathy is something that really makes his what happened to series amazing. he approaches everything honestly while never making an excuse for their troubles. keep up the good work💯
He made about 5 different excuses for him. Everyone deserves a second chance at forgiveness but the NFL is a privilege not a right. Glad he never played another down.
been watching your videos and realized you’re 1 or 3 people I will actually sit through and watch. Your editing and knowledge of what you’re talking about keeps me watching. Just now subscribed ✅
@@relaxwithtbj4320 I’m not perfect and every human being has made mistakes. But not mistakes to this caliber. Such violent actions and crimes are inexcusable even if it was a purely emotional action.
Just Thank you for telling these stories so honestly while being completely unbiased. Logical and thorough. For me it’s reminiscent of when I was a kid and used to watch NFL football stories. You’re the truth man, ✊🏾
This is excellent. I agree you were a master at context and empathy. Your key point is second chances can and do happen. I like your style. Great job man!
The dude was honest with Ozzie from the start. Never lied. I’m glad he was able to move on with his family. He had just signed his big money contract the year before so he will be ok financially one would think.
I live in a suburb of Baltimore and back in like 2013 Ray came to our school and talked about his career and some of his anti bullying stuff so it was kinda ironic and sad when the story broke just a few months later but I’m glad he’s happy and doing well in his relationship rn
His reaction 2 her being knocked out is what made ppl want 2 see what happened before that. They were obviously arguing he spit in her face then it continued in the elevator his lack of concern 4 her being knocked out 2 me says he's probably hit her before. He had a horrible season the year before so he was on his way out but sped up the process
Lmao so why would they both say that this was there only physical altercation? And why would they still be married to this day? I’m glad that your insinuations are more important tho
Some ppl say that if he didn’t drag her after knocking her out he might’ve still been able to stay in the league . The part where he looks like he dragging a dead body jus looked so fuckjng bad .
First-time comment poster and I actually work with one of your cousins who told me about your channel, yet, I was doing homework today that mentions Ray Rice in the book "The Very Good Gospel" by Lisa Sharon Harper. Nevertheless, your video was the first to come up and near the end of the video, I choked up and that's real-talk. Keep doing your thing and God bless.
Relationships are not “hard”, people make them so. Learn, heal, and love yourself deeply so that you can give the best version of you to your future partner. You will CHOOSE to either be better, or you won’t. Love & Light ✌🏾🤍✨
Relationships are not supposed to be hard. If you are experiencing hardship, it may be time to walk away. That's what Ray should have done. Walked away 🚶🏾♂️
Everybody needs grace, even though grace can’t be earned! I love how he was able to be reconciled to his wife, that’s what’s important. It doesn’t matter what we think, just learn and grow from your mistakes!
Wow this is a great story of redemption between Ray & Janay. Forgiveness is a powerful form of love & this story exemplifies it. You've done a great job telling this story.
This man was loved all throughout Baltimore. Rice T-shirt’s and jerseys made up most of the stuff worn all throughout Maryland. Even to this day, his Jersey is still one of the most common ones worn at ravens games
@@stephendriver4656 im from Bmore and that city loves Ray Rice his jersey is worn alot..people make mistakes just ask Ben Roethlisberger..hmmmm and nothing was said about that..BLM too
@LazerEye57 I would love to find someone you idolize and find dirt on them just so I can laugh at you because believe it or not even drunk drivers deserve a second chance as long as they show remorse and go through the proper steps to try to make up for it.
I have lost my temper but never ever wanted to hurt a loved one. No excuses for this man. We all have had problems and loss. He caused this. Athletes should be held accountable like everyone else.
@@thelastmanonearth2631 nope nope and nope . Being drunk aint an excuse , that's the Brock Turner the Stanford brats excuse . Right is right wrong is wrong in whatever state of inebriation one is in.
@@july9566 oh so if a chick was drunk and had sex was she still capable of consent? Because you can’t use alcohol to attack a man to hold him accountable and also use it to defend a woman from accountability.
I didn't follow this incident when it happened...I think I was a little disgusted or hurt, but also wanted to avoid the media's take on it. I am glad I had a chance to view this video and learn a little about him and his life, and hope he is truly remorseful. Everyone deserves redemption.
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Cursed
Can you do what happened to Jay ajayi 🙏
Nice Lookin Out!!
Bro, your content is legit. I came across you several months ago, and I love football, and I love your videos about the player's lives off the field. Respect
Love your videos man they are honestly the best please do a life story on Brandon Burlsworth
You handled this with honesty and gave him dignity while never apologizing for him. You are very good at this sir.
impartial storytelling is always a W
🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@@FlemLoRaps dope bruh✊🏾
Amen!
Well said.
Hell of a story. What did it for him was the fact this was captured on video. Had it not been on video, I think there's a solid chance he still would be playing
Considering Kareem Hunt still has a career, I don't doubt it
I still say self defense. How much did he get paid to take a fall
I doubt he’s in the nfl rn but he should’ve been for another 3-4 years for sure he was still pretty good
He is still playing, he just changed his name to jk dobbins😂
@@BruhMoment-hh4ff yo seriously tjough!
Jk is Ray rice. I been saying this 🤣😭
I have a domestic charge the only thing I could tell young people don’t let your emotions get the best of you it’s always best to walk away
Sage advice. I'm glad you have learned to rise above. Good luck to you.
thank you for the advice i appreciate it
That's very good advice to give.
Men can control their emotions
Thanks
I was still in elementary school when the incident occurred, I still remember the day after and I saw the lunch lady taking down the Ray Rice Got Milk poster
you from Louisiana?
This dude never fails to examine things from a logical and unbiased perspective. Some of the smartest commentary on sports you can find.
Better than ESPN and Fox sports. I watch more content on YT than Netflix these days.
@@bamafencer12 I know that’s right
AGREED
Agree
NFL films should hire him to do this for them. Imagine how good it would be if he had full access to the players for interviews and stuff.
Flem, boi you ill with the story telling. next level with the details.
Facts.
Regardless he's talking about Last Chance U.,
or Kaepernick,
or Luke Kuechly,
or David Boston...
man is top notch.
ESPN/FS1 aren't worthy of him.
Super facts
He is so damn good
Ever since I came to his page, I am beyond impressed. He got skills.
master story teller
Reputation takes years to cultivate and only a moment to be ruined.
I'm from New Rochelle, Ray really is a genuine good guy. He is coaching the kids at the High School now.
Split second!!! And it's gone. SMH
💯💯💯
He is not just a terrible person@@furiogiunta3691
This story had me in tears. Thank you for sharing this again. It didn’t hurt as much anymore.
He got his second chance with his family. That's priceless
All that matters
A second chance to abuse them again.
@@Snarf_Le_Wombat someone isn't optimistic at any level.
She already forgave him. The team and nfl didnt
She got what she want him without football... simple
I been telling cats for YEARS that if a woman gets u THAT heated... RUN!!! and dont look back... Dont throw it all away over some BS... just leave...
Underrated comment.
I agree 100%. That means she is purposely pushing your buttons. At that point it's a game to her...
@@JustMe-ro5vq exactly my point. RUN!!!
Wisdom 💯
This!! No relationship should ever have you to the point of physical/emotional violence. It’s not worth it & it’s not safe.
We love that his mother kept her work with special needs kids. That speaks massive volumes about how wonderful a person she is!
The Rices have continued counseling at a Christian center and say they no longer drink hard liquor. They have continued serious counseling to save their marriage and to save their family. I respect the work this young family put in to correct the wrongs in their relationship. Ray became a father actively involved as a dad and as a loving husband that takes the time to listen to his wife. My best wishes to the both.
Oh I’m here for this ray was one of my favorite rbs it’s a messed up situation happy they’re doing well now tho
He still wit her?!
@@IntuitionIsClear yup. They got married the day of his court appearance.
Bro thats how I feel. Dude messed up plain and simple. But he seems like hasn't gotten into anymore altercations. In my eyes he isn't a bad person he just made a bad mistake like he said.
I dunno, I'm still mad he ruined my whole season. That was a $700 check.
When you do good things, people forget. When you do bad things, people remember
So true!!!
Its how you evolve...
Sounds pretty good but it depends on who doing the bad or the good.
Sad But True
Yeah punching a woman in the face and dragging her unconscious body out of an elevator is a pretty memorable moment Richard.
Man, this series should literally be televised. Giving both sides of every story with fantastic professionalism, keep it up 👍🏼
I might be a bit late on these but I think it's the 4th or 5th i've watched. Gotta say man, you're a great storyteller. Your explanation of all these guys and their complicated situations is so spot on dude, great job. :)
When I make a big mistake it’s, yelling at my wife when I get frustrated or mad. Not knocking her out cold on the elevator floor after spitting on her twice. Typically domestic violence is not a 1 time incident. It’s just amazing how we make excuses for celebrity’s.
I completely agree. The commentary’s message is that we have all had a bad night like this but luckily we had friends or people to stop us or back us. NO I have NEVER had a night like this. Most people haven’t it’s not normal…
@@Common_sense_commentary
I didn't have a great childhood myself, but neither have I ever attacked another human being, let alone beat a much weaker and defenseless woman into unconsciousness
Way to entirely miss the point.
@@tbow13gbr22 I think you've confused who missed the point. This comment is perfectly well said and thought out.
@@archmage7813 did you just like not watch the video or???
I turned 40 this year. I met my hubby my senior year in high school and his senior year in college. I was 17 and he was 22. We had a baby, bought a new car, bought a new house, and a saint bernard all b4 I was 21. I can tell you that we went through some SHIT in our 20's! At 40 and 45 now, we just now got our ish 2gether!
he should’ve left you
At lease you hung in there and didn't just end it . ppl forget what you did to get them you still have to do it to keep them.
@@user-du6vx7ir7m - Should she have left him?
@@user-du6vx7ir7m he should have left me because whyyyy exactly???? Because we have a 20 year successful marriage-yup makes sense 🤦🏻♀️
Congratulations. Been with mind for 2 years. N its hell so far lol. We in our early 30s
Was playing madden the other day and I just randomly thought of him. Great video bro
Thank you for showing the whole story!!! This really swayed me 💯 love your channel 🙌
Man i miss ray rice i met him at his ray rice day at Calvert hall he was so cool to meet even tried to strip the ball from me i loved that guy when he played for us
all my boys went to calvert hall, Baltimore county represent, I went to dulaney, all my boys went to calvert hall and st pauls
Roll Dons Roll
class of 22 rep the hall
Do you still keep up with him
@@jc755. no i was a participant in his his ray rice day i met him a couple times after
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Long time fan love from Baltimore
Yo Flemlo love how you tell a story would love to see something on the A-train the best FB ever!
Do a what happened to marquis colston from the New Orleans saints
Its just the lack of compassion he show for her in the elevator
He was intoxicated and she was abusing him in n that moment.
Verbally and physically. @Kerryanne
Haduken! :l
She struck him first, he just struck back and harder.
If she could hit him harder would it be ok for him to
strike back then
@@heavylift9582 He spitted in her face first😐 Did yall forget about that…
Bro told this story so well, very well spoken young man. Much respect brother.
I'm in no way a football fan. I watch your channel because I like biographies. You really know how to flesh out a story, and make these guys seem like what they are...human. THAT'S why I continue to come back and watch your channel repeatedly. I may not watch it as soon as it drops, but I will always come and binge watch to catch up eventually. Like I'm doing right now.
Same here. I love learning about other people. He does do great job with story flow.
Okay?
@@Thatnigacj okay?
Many humans are simultaneously monsters. When a human is a monster, it must always remain at the forefront of their personal description.
When your parents don't approve, there's a problem. They see something you don't see because they have more experience and babe obviously lived much longer than you have. Boys and girls listen to your parents.
Are you saying don't let the little head tell the big head what to do?
Quit lying you would have married Ray Rice no matter what your mother said.
@@JUDAH-gi6te actually I DID Marry Ray Rice with the encouragement of my mother. I was 18 and he was 34. I only wish my mom had made me think about his bad temper and not giving her consent. I might have had a whole different life but she was just thinking about herself and her well-being not mine so...
@@debbiethompson14 you married someone that was old enough to be your dad. Way different situation sounds like the guy was married before he married you. Ray shouldn't had hit her but people can change for the better
@@JUDAH-gi6te no he was never married but he was very abusive. We're divorced now after 26 years. Anywho, I sure hope you're right about people changing but they have to want to change. My ex-husband is exactly the same only now he rewrites the past ... whatever. I never heard of Ray Rice before the incident so I don't know anything about him. All I know is what I saw and it was brutal. I can't imagine that was the first time she had her those specially the way he tapped her head with his foot. As a battered woman I can only say that we've been divorced for 18 years and I still get flashback. Even after so much spiritual work in recovery still be hard it can still be hard. I'll pray for both of them. It takes a certain kind of person to hit someone else that way as an adult. We Really have to look deeply at that.
We been waiting on this one!! 🔥💪🏿
No one wins when one of heroes fall. Flemlo you seem like a real solid dude, respect.
FlemLo's explanation of what happened on the elevator left out a very important part, which is that when Ray walked on the elevator, he SPIT in her face and that is why she rushed toward him. That was actually the second time he spit on her with the first time being as she walked past him to get on the elevator. Also, literally NOBODY I know believed their media press run trying to explain the incident. It all felt fake and contrived. They did a horrible job trying to convince everyone that this was their first physical altercation. They literally wanted everyone to believe that they argued incessantly behind closed doors, but no punches were thrown, but yet this behavior happens after some drinks in public.
Just glad they're in a better place
There is no proof he regularly physically abused her. This mans hands are the size of most peoples head. If he regularly hit her there would be proof.
@@PrimeGalvatron If they kept it private like most domestic abuse how would there be proof?
Yes he definitely punched her on a regular basis
@@FtGFA Here we go with the anecdotal responses. There is no way to quantify 'most' domestic abuse is kept private. Battered people may not go to the police, but someone else usually knows unless this person has no social circles besides their relationship.
At any rate, Ray Rice went and told on himself about what happened BEFORE anyone even saw the footage. Most abusive people are not going to do this.
I'm a woman who doesn't even watch football, but I love your content so much!
I don't know why, but this comment feels so wholesome to me.
@@theterrificteddy2157 same idk why
I watch alot of sports but, also love his content.
She didn't even smile when he said his 2nd chance was right here. No emotion at all, which tells me that she hasn't moved on, she still in pain from it all and who can blame her?
Just like Fabolous baby mother Emily
Because he's still kicking her a** ...and she's still pretending he's not.
I blame her it’s her fault
Man I can’t believe she married him!! She seen the video the worst part was actually after when he just dragged her around the elevator like he couldn’t lift her off the floor?!?!!!! Just left her on the floor like a dog he don’t care about her. He wants to fix his image trying to get back the money he lost.
@@ryand4533 True. That’s the part no one ever discusses or points out. He even drops her at one point when the security guy is talking to him and asking him questions. Her head hits the floor hard. I think at that point the security guy likely said something along the lines of I have to call this in or I have to report this & Rice is just thinking of himself & not giving a crap about anything or anyone else.
I don't know how your channel came up on my feed but I'm glad it did. Emotional intelligence does come with maturity
Young men need their dads.
Yes and young women
Unfortunately 64% of black children are raised by single parent in America. The highest.
@@Snarf_Le_Wombat Some of the women proudly proclaim their single motherhood, as if it is a badge of honor. Nothing honorable about that. If you are through no fault of yours ok. But to go around boasting how strong and wonderful you are for being a "single" mother" is a sad state of affairs.
If it is by choice, why will you make such a horrible choice for your children.
@@dnealriggah1934 Agreed
@@Snarf_Le_Wombat Yah, I have heard 70%, but regardless it does much to explain the facts. Boys raised without dads have a hard time becoming men. Look at Chicago. And girls without dads may think dads are superfluous. Sad.
Meanwhile Antonio Brown is still somehow allowed in the league.
And remember if I recall correctly This was at the same time Adrian Peterson had abused his child with a whip from head to toe bruises. Like 3 or 4 years old. And he is STILL in the league!!!
It’s b/c he has connections with the GOAT
AB and Peter are hall of fame talents and there was no footage. Personally I think they all should have been either banned or had 2 year suspensions minimum..
Well the ray rice moment was during the social media boom and the first moment like this. The thing that happened was on tv on repeat which made it worse and it was all over social media and the NFL wanted to sweep it under the rug. Now the NFL has to do things differently with helping the players is a lot more important optically which should be the most important thing.
@@anonymoususer1824 what about the footage of Kareem Hunt kicking a chick how come he’s not out of the league
You do a great job. This channel is criminally underrated.
Damn she must really love him to still be with him to this day. After everything that happened, that’s actually insane
Women stay with you when you have success
@@seondeon6204 yeah but he was kicked from the NFL she could have left him then
She probably was a abuser and realized she had a big part in it
@@seondeon6204
That’s debatable. It depends on the self love and self esteem of the woman… Furthermore money is a big deal to people that don’t have it. Some women have more than the man… so it’s debatable
@@seondeon6204 women stay warm men that's unsuccessful as well.
Excellent piece on Ray Rice. As a Ravens fan, I was devastated when this happened. I'm glad that he got help, and they stayed together. It's good to hear him on local Baltimore sports talk radio shows. Glad I found your channel. Just subscribed. I know this story well, and you got it right.
Meanwhile Irving almost decapitated a man and he's in the HOF.
Politics man.
Jerry came clutch💪🏾
He also is a 3 time world champion
@@juanmeza958 right is right and wrong is wrong doesn’t matter who says it or does it!!
Didn’t ray Lewis kill a guy while wearing a white suit
That happened b4 social media was big, imagine the trouble ppl woulda been in if ppl today heard them back then
I like the end where rice said he got a second chance to get his wife and family back.
That's it he said it best I have a second chance to get my family 👪 back: my peace and blessings be upon him and his wife and his family 👪
Best part...
LMFAO and you believe that!? He will resent her now and forever and always
@@Shabazzatta I can tell you have a fixed mindset
So he beat his wife into submission, has no better route, neither does his wife...so they stick together and get through and work the media angle. Doesn't change the fact that he's a POS wife beater.
I gotta say
.. the way your put this story out. Its a life story. Alot of people dont understand the truth of life. He was was wrong 1000%. But that family is together...... Amen
I hope that he has found peace...and I hope the young lady has found peace as well.
Dude Flemlo Raps is so badass i hope everyone recognizes how good we have it with his videos. Seriously show and share the love. Hope you and your family had a great Christmas and a good new year.
I went to New Rochelle high school and Issac (rays middle school) his mom was so nice and always was with the special need kids!
Yup! Salute
One of my fav youtubers if I ever want to learn some perspective on a bad situation. You're good at what you do. Always have been
Your reporting, research and delivery deserves a TH-cam award and a spot on ESPN or local news. 👌🏾💯
914 baby. He’s now an assistant at New Rochelle High 🙏
845 yerrr
Yea sir big 914
845!
Damn
Good old Westchester
This just popped up in my recommended vids. Glad I watched. Your production quality is on point. Great job. Wishing you extreme success in the new year.
Dang bro. you make these stories come home. You straight up do your research and it shows with the details you dish out. Keep it real and bring it to us hot!! I believe your show is the best I've ever watched on sharing the lives of others. Money in yo pocket!
You know it's bad when SVU does "An Episode Ripped Straight From The Headlines" and it's all about you.
Underrated
I saw the Ray Rice episode of SVU. Straight over the top garbage. Just like the Chris Brown episode.
@@qadashchaayah144 Oc course. The dad in that was over the top evil. It's why the show was re-upped for 3 more years (25 total) though. They'll never run out of material. It's also bad how immediately your mind went to Chris Brown though, as did mine.
I’ve never understood the appeal of S.V.U., to be honest; their episodes have always struck me as watered-down, more exploitative variations of the original (superior) show’s procedural formula, with most of its faults and precious few of its strengths-up to and including its unfortunate tendency to play on people’s ignorance and prejudices towards major stories/incidents outside of what they hear or read in passing, often for the sake of cheap drama, ratings, and seasonal renewals to keep Dick Wolf solvent. :P
If something like this WAS gonna be adapted for television in a police format, I feel like something more morally gray and complicated like “Hill Street Blues,” “Homicide: Life On The Street,” or “The Shield” would have been better suited to handle something like this. :/
@@christmashake8968 I still watch it cuz I'm 22 years in, but I could not agree MORE with that analysis. As mentioned above, the writers (Especially the last few years) have become too reliant on sensationalism. As my late dad told me as a kid, saying something is based on a true story/actual events is usually "a lie in disguise." People have been killed in the woods, but that doesn't make the Friday the 13th movies true stories. The Ray Rice episode did have a similar storyline (Football player KO'd wife on elevator camera), but the writers made the guy a monster to fit the narrative.
A great Hollywood example is the "true story" boxing movie Cinderella Man. It's a GREAT movie about a former boxer who rose from extreme poverty during the Great Depression to the heavyweight title. The movie showed his opponent (Max Baer) as a heartless guy who cracked jokes about a guy he'd previously killed in the ring. The real-life Max was devastated after the fight, and even went on to help his family and pay for his childrens' educations. That didn't fit the narrative of good vs evil, though.
I wish SVU would stop with the headline crap, or at least get it right if they continue. And I watched Hill Street Blues with my dad. THAT was a great show.
I like how Flem doesn't judge anybody.
Everyone judges everyone. It's human nature.
@@badgerden7080 Uh oh. One of those millennials that has to debate everything.
You’ll be at a million subscribers before you know it champ 🤘🏼
Your perspective is well beyond your years!!! Much respect. Keep up the great work.
Almost 15 years married here. I'm glad our darkest moments weren't on camera. We got really, really low but rose above it, much like Ray and Jenae , and now are happier than we've ever been. Good for him for finding peace.
Respect
Stay positive bruh...1 Luv 2 yall 🙏
So you're saying at one point in your life, you had to ray rice a bitch?
@@chodiusmaximus4042 lmfao
So ya beat your wife and now she’s scared of you is what you’re saying here? Wtf
I still don’t understand how he never got a second chance when there’s so many dudes who have done far worse than Rice did. I was all for a long LONG suspension. But to never get a look again is crazy.
He played like shit. Make no mistake, the NFL doesn't care about this shit.
It was on camera, fans had the visual image of him knocking out a woman and dragging her like a caveman. Written police reports and arrests don’t have the same effect as that visual.
@@MrRyan-wu4jx yup in the nfl you can get away with anything as long as it’s not on camera
@@austinhopkins4191 In the NFL if you can help a team when games and money, they will sign you
@mac camp that's an understatement,smh idk how u can do that to sumone u supposedly love
I can’t believe that we beat the Steelers 27 to 17
Ikr!!🖤🤍🧡🤍🖤
I Can't believe y'all won a game this season.
@@purplerangergaming6045 IKR😂
They are overrated so I wasn’t
Y’all still not close to getting in the playoffs😭😂
My 1st time here, but this is the some of best unbiased commentary I have ever heard. Salute bruh!!!
Called his wife a dream killer. Ended up in a situation with his wife where his dream was killed
Words have power, he spoke it into existence.
He was dreaming the wrong dream anyway
What a silly comment..It's not the wife's fault he can't control his actions. She was upset as well but she didn't put her hands on him. This only shows how comfortable he was hitting her and probably have done it on many occasions
@@tee2321 they said in an interview that was the only account of either of them hitting one another and this guy was saying he spoke it into existence that his dream would be killed not that she did it read listen and think more before trying to go all feminesta for no reason
@@tee2321 you even watch the video or just here to talk shit they both said have said it was one time.
The vid don’t start til my boy say “CUE DA WAYNE!”
Whan say ya mean... blood clot, irie boy
He should’ve made friends with Tom Brady, one call from him and his career would’ve been back on, ask Antonio Brown!
You mamies and your white daddy fantasies are hilarious
You said a mouth full !!! Tom Brandy is football royalty... One call from Tom Brady and Ray would have been up and running!!! 💯
Honestly, they said Antonio Brown would never step back on the field. Tom Brady said I need Antonio if I will have a chance to get another ring on a different team. Tom Brady hand picked his offense.. Antonio being top on his list... True Story. Do your research.....
@@tinygoat2531 I could never fantasize about a pink little ding., I mean why when I’ve birthed Mandingo Kings would I ever want a pink boy🤔
Nah the issue with Ray was his productivity was down. No one wants to deal with the issues if your not good. Also at the time the NFL had a movement going to get more women fans. The NFL was advocating for Breast cancer awareness and other women's issues. It would've cost every NFL team to lose money for a guy who was only going to rush for 500 yards that next season.
I like Flemlo's documentaries, you can definitely see that he does a great amount of research. You are the best! I be all in on these documentaries.
He was so focused on the things he didn’t have career wise and neglected the blessing he had in front of him. God saw this and took away his distraction for him to evolve and focus on what’s important💯
So god made him punch his woman so hard that she went unconscious..nice fucking god!!!
@@nibsvkh that wasn’t the point of my comment which I see went over your head. Regardless of the intensity of the mistake he made he acknowledged it and reformed his self to become a better person. They’re doing good from where I’m standing and that’s what matters.🤷🏾♂️
Yawn. Men who hit women have done it before and they'll probably do it again I was just him being him
@@Shabazzatta If that’s how you feel then I can’t take that away from you. If you believe he will and that he hasn’t changed that’s fine. But this guy literally made a video on all of his positive accomplishments since that event. I don’t see how it’s so hard to understand that people can change. The only way you can possibly be like that is if you see no positive in anyone.
Sometimes u got to smack a woman that shyt gets old they dont know wen to stfu
I respect that you try to see another perspective on situations like this. However, I don’t believe this is a equatable to a “dark time in any young couples life “. If my wife and I are going through a hard time, we might have a separation or a verbal altercation but I will not strike her to the point of unconsciousness. Love your channel but feel this was quite a stretch.
The dude is a professional football player he should not have hit her at all but it would not take much from a professional football player who works out all the time to knock an average man out let alone a woman.
Samuel Boyd soft
@@charleswilkinson5211 soft
💗💗
Anything can happen in a moment. Don't judge till u walk in someone's shoes.
You have mad skills, and love how you intertwine the journey of personal growth and development...
He still got his second chance to be a husband & the father he never had. That's priceless.
Listen, I was a huge fan of rays and those ravens teams of the early 2010s (still am) but knocking out your partner and dragging her from the elevator is a completely ridiculous moment that can’t be justified. The horror I will always get from that video is insane. I hope he’s in a better place but I’ll never be able to view him the same. Thank god he didn’t hit her hard enough to kill her.
Stay tuned 🙄
He hit her plenty hard enough to kill her. Everyone involved is just blessed she didn't die. Remember, according to the word, she hit her head on the rail in the elevator. That alone could have ended her.
@@josephnewbern2717 I never even thought about that, that situation was disturbing on so many levels
To be honest man like, on top of some personal life stuff from 2012 that made watching the Super Bowl not as fun as it could've been, this whole situation really made me quit watching the Ravens for a long time because like, you look at that video and all I can think is "man, the team was on THIS dude's back." It made it really impossible to enjoy the thought of the team for a very, very long time.
@@USALeonHeart I completely understand that. It’s taken me forever to be able to watch them play just because Ray rice was the best offensive when I was at my peak football and ravens fandom and it’s hard even now to separate them. Idk man bad stuff.
flemlo’s empathy is something that really makes his what happened to series amazing. he approaches everything honestly while never making an excuse for their troubles. keep up the good work💯
Exactly. He reminds us at the end of the day, these guys are HUMANS. Love his storytelling
He made about 5 different excuses for him. Everyone deserves a second chance at forgiveness but the NFL is a privilege not a right. Glad he never played another down.
been watching your videos and realized you’re 1 or 3 people I will actually sit through and watch. Your editing and knowledge of what you’re talking about keeps me watching. Just now subscribed ✅
So you're telling me Ravens fans had a "Least likely to get arrested" vote?
Well it is Baltimore, so...
for real like why is that even a category?
@@jakeh_13 cause it’s Baltimore
Lmaooooo
I voted for Ray Lewis
I mean he made a mistake he is human. I’m not gonna hold his past against him. I hope all is well with him
He decked a women with a railing. He doesn’t deserve sympathy
@@silver4436 and you going to hold that against him forever? He made a mistake... you act like you’re perfect.
He's a woman beater he did not make a mistake he doesn't deserve sympathy. Ray Rice should not get any apologies
@@relaxwithtbj4320 I’m not perfect and every human being has made mistakes. But not mistakes to this caliber. Such violent actions and crimes are inexcusable even if it was a purely emotional action.
@@silver4436 you acting like alcohol dosen't make you do shit like that
Hell if I was an athlete I would wait till my career is over to have a relationship/wife and kids.
Lavar Ball is that you?
Why these guys get married during their careers always baffles me.
@@erichodge567 why they get married and some don’t get prenups is even more baffling
@@erichodge567 I’d love to see the success rate of pro athlete marriages
They can still divorse you and take yo shit
Just Thank you for telling these stories so honestly while being completely unbiased. Logical and thorough. For me it’s reminiscent of when I was a kid and used to watch NFL football stories. You’re the truth man, ✊🏾
This is excellent. I agree you were a master at context and empathy. Your key point is second chances can and do happen. I like your style. Great job man!
He’s not showing ANY empathy for Janay.
The dude was honest with Ozzie from the start. Never lied. I’m glad he was able to move on with his family. He had just signed his big money contract the year before so he will be ok financially one would think.
Domestic violence is rarely just "one moment." I'm sure many women can attest to this. Leave him the first time and never come back ladies!
Exactly. He BEEN kicking her ass. That just got recorded. There is no way that was "the first time" he hit her.
Yes there is no way the first time a man is physically abusive will be in a public location and knock you out at that..
@Scrooge McDuck she never hit him tho, so why are you comparing her to other women
@Scrooge McDuck your misogyny is showing
@Scrooge McDuck pretty sure you can’t fake a knock out like that when he pulled her out she looked dead that wasn’t acting
This is a really sad story my husband just saw him in the barbershop…wishing him well❤️
He didn’t get knocked out in an elevator
@@kristian5489 lmao Fr, but he also ruined his career so
@@kristian5489 Ray been through and done more by 28 than you would in 10 lifetimes.
Me reading into thumbnail: He lost the things money could buy, but the best thing he had is still by his side.
Thanks for the stories Flemlo. You never disappoint. Glad I’ve been a subscriber for a long time now. Keep up the good work.
I live in a suburb of Baltimore and back in like 2013 Ray came to our school and talked about his career and some of his anti bullying stuff so it was kinda ironic and sad when the story broke just a few months later but I’m glad he’s happy and doing well in his relationship rn
Anti bullying was all over Baltimore back then I remember that 😂
You laid this out nicely, bruh. Great story for all to hear and take heed from.
The best part of the video is you honoring his wife, That was touching.
You only say this after his wife commented on this lol. Douche
@@DakinRinone pretty sure they posted this before he posted the wife’s comment. Either way, Don’t be a fuckin dick
@@DakinRinone where’s the comment
@@tannersherrill9560 where’s the comment
@@DakinRinone if Ray was White, they would gave him a second chance
His reaction 2 her being knocked out is what made ppl want 2 see what happened before that. They were obviously arguing he spit in her face then it continued in the elevator his lack of concern 4 her being knocked out 2 me says he's probably hit her before. He had a horrible season the year before so he was on his way out but sped up the process
Lmao so why would they both say that this was there only physical altercation? And why would they still be married to this day? I’m glad that your insinuations are more important tho
@@SWAGGER573 The reality is that both the commenter and you don't know the truths of their relationship. It's no point to really argue it either way
Ray was emotional in this situation.
@@justinpettit3432 well clearly If they are both happy and still together with more children then the relationship most not have been that toxic...
I guarantee that wasn't the first time.
Some ppl say that if he didn’t drag her after knocking her out he might’ve still been able to stay in the league . The part where he looks like he dragging a dead body jus looked so fuckjng bad .
Is he meant to just leave her there?
@@freedom7508 No he wasn’t meant to leave her there, but he shouldn’t have hit her and drugged her either! He could’ve at least pick her up!
@@MekaHall1078 no
whyumadtho355 L
Hey, people were waiting to get on the elevator.
First-time comment poster and I actually work with one of your cousins who told me about your channel, yet, I was doing homework today that mentions Ray Rice in the book "The Very Good Gospel" by Lisa Sharon Harper. Nevertheless, your video was the first to come up and near the end of the video, I choked up and that's real-talk. Keep doing your thing and God bless.
Relationships are not “hard”, people make them so. Learn, heal, and love yourself deeply so that you can give the best version of you to your future partner. You will CHOOSE to either be better, or you won’t. Love & Light ✌🏾🤍✨
You speak like someone with no wisdom
They are hard, you haven't had one if you say the are not.
Relationships are not supposed to be hard. If you are experiencing hardship, it may be time to walk away. That's what Ray should have done. Walked away 🚶🏾♂️
Cap
@@fbistatmajor5918 You sound like someone who knows only struggle love.
Everybody needs grace, even though grace can’t be earned! I love how he was able to be reconciled to his wife, that’s what’s important. It doesn’t matter what we think, just learn and grow from your mistakes!
Incredible break down of this! Very well thought out!
Wow this is a great story of redemption between Ray & Janay. Forgiveness is a powerful form of love & this story exemplifies it. You've done a great job telling this story.
His 2nd chance is better than anything the NFL could provide.
Factsss💯👏🏾👏🏾
Amen to that! Family is everything!
Kareem Hunt can get a second chance then Ray Rice should
AGREED
@@Cuz-Y-Not1942 Family helps accelerate the bad situations a lot of the time..be careful who you deal with..family or not...
This man was loved all throughout Baltimore. Rice T-shirt’s and jerseys made up most of the stuff worn all throughout Maryland. Even to this day, his Jersey is still one of the most common ones worn at ravens games
Yep just one more reason why society doesnt give a shit about anything but their team winning
I'd have to disagree Lamar's Jersey is definitely the most worn or Ray Lewis
@@stephendriver4656 It’s Definitely Ray Lewis but Lamar is loved too
@@stephendriver4656 im from Bmore and that city loves Ray Rice his jersey is worn alot..people make mistakes just ask Ben Roethlisberger..hmmmm and nothing was said about that..BLM too
@LazerEye57 I would love to find someone you idolize and find dirt on them just so I can laugh at you because believe it or not even drunk drivers deserve a second chance as long as they show remorse and go through the proper steps to try to make up for it.
That background music is so smooth
Do you or anybody else know what the song is called?
I love these videos man , keep ‘em coming !
I really enjoyed this story. I am happy for him and his family. They deserve to be happy.
I have lost my temper but never ever wanted to hurt a loved one. No excuses for this man. We all have had problems and loss. He caused this. Athletes should be held accountable like everyone else.
Hows the air up there on that high horse. Both parties are at fault. Shit happens.
Olga Williams nobody cares
@@onthaticeburgess109 you are right. Nobody cares and that is the problem in our world.
The image of Ray holding her by the ankle, while being on the phone is the reason he lost his career. His immediate response was cold and unfeeling.
He just appeared to be so cold-hearted like come on get up you getting on my nerves
Have you literally never been drunk before? If you're not feeling EVERYTHING, you're feeling NOTHING. That's kinda why people drink.
@@thelastmanonearth2631 nope nope and nope . Being drunk aint an excuse , that's the Brock Turner the Stanford brats excuse . Right is right wrong is wrong in whatever state of inebriation one is in.
@@july9566 oh so if a chick was drunk and had sex was she still capable of consent? Because you can’t use alcohol to attack a man to hold him accountable and also use it to defend a woman from accountability.
I didn't follow this incident when it happened...I think I was a little disgusted or hurt, but also wanted to avoid the media's take on it. I am glad I had a chance to view this video and learn a little about him and his life, and hope he is truly remorseful. Everyone deserves redemption.
I like the fact that you talk about the human side of Ray. It's good to see him and his wife doing well now
I was in a similar situation. I pushed my wife and I paid the price. We worked it out. I sought help and worked on myself.
Good for you. Nice to know you admitted you made a mistake, repented and made things right.
That was a great balanced story on Ray Rice! Pretty good research; I grow up with his Mom!
That was a great story, thank you for the clarity and the positive spin. God Bless Him and his family