Young man, I am 58yrs. old. Of all the broadcasters, storytellers, etc. I have seen, you are up there with the best of them. Straight to the heart of a story, all facts no fiction, and an obvious enjoyment for what you're doing. Great work. Would love to see you on The Herd.
my dad actually knew the guy before everything happened, as he lived in texas for a little bit and they rode bikes together a few times. He said the guy obviously had a ton of CTE and was severely messed up in the head. he had a ton of short term memory issues and you could just tell something was wrong. you don’t gotta believe this as im just some random on the internet commenting this but i promise you it’s true. was super excited about getting a signed helmet for a few months before everything happened.
@@johnross5087 NO, YOU STFU, IGNORANT IDIOT ! He telling THE TRUTH. Alot of Players DID acted that way. They had CTE, too. That's WHY They SUED The NFL for $700M, DUMB🐴 !
Very professional of you to talk about how he was brought up before getting into his legal situation. Not condoning his behavior, but realizing people don’t just turn into these monsters overnight.
Yes, that behavior has a reason and I also thought of something that might’ve happened to him when he was a child because to just target that specific demographic of women is odd. I hope he gets help.
I think the entire story should always be told. There's almost always determining factors as to why people do things they do whether it's abusive childhood, psychological issues etc. I just don't like this idea now of victimizing criminals and no justice for the actual victims. Not calling him a criminal I'm just saying that's how it goes now
“I’m a soldier” oh wow dude!!! I remember this when it happened and it was obvious something was up then. Even more sad now looking at what he turned into.
YohYamialwayzHIGH right?! I had completely forgotten about this craziness and being a huge HUGE college football fan I remember waking up to this on sports center and had to do a double take. At first I thought it was like a pre game hype up or someone just clowning.... NO, he really went there.
I’m not much into football. However, I grew up in Miami and they played that clip all over the news. It was a big deal then to just say ass on tv let alone fuck.
This is crazy man. in 2004 i remember as a Skins fan. we had the # 5 pick and had a chance to get Sean Taylor or KW2. I wanted Sean all day, something didnt seem right mentally with KW2. And Sean was killed RIP. but even knowing the future, i would still have drafted Sean T.
This is so sad. I used to work for his wife when they were in TB and they looked like a loving family and she was a really sweet person too. I pray for his family and children.
Realistically, I know you were making a humorous reference but there may be some truth to that. That fight in high school was already bad because of his size compared to the student so it was expected that some serious injury would happen, but the hits from college and his pro years may have intensified an apparent mental issue.
I remember watching Winslow and Adam " Pac man" Jones going at it during college. Hard to believe Pac man would have a longer career, and cause less trouble
So basically, he grew up in a highly toxic environment. Now, it makes sense. Never the less, everyone still has to be held accountable for their own actions. Good vid!
@@alegutierrez3819 Exactly... a culture that constantly allows people to make excuses for terrible behavior is only going fostering a culture for terrible behavior to continue or normalize en masse.
You’re such a positive dude man. I love it. Thank you for being a source of positivity in a time where people are constantly being negative and hateful. I truly admire and appreciate you for that bro, for real.
damn my mom named me after his dad bro kellen Winslow because the name is so original and a hall of famer was named that sadly his son is ruining that legacy for me.
No accountability, parenthood, teachers and coaches as well. This stuff was going on for years, no one wants to say my kid or friend is a rapist but let someone know or get him help.
Holy shit I remember throwing so many passes to him on Madden 11 on career mode and I thought he was awesome. But now after seeing this, I can only imagine how much of a cancer in the locker room my player had to put up with.
I played football for years. It actually kind of screwed me up. I taught myself to bottle up everything in life, all my aggression, anger, frustration, sorrow... everything that was negative, EVERYTHING, and let it all out on the field. I primarily played LB, and I was mean... really mean. I absolutely loved hitting people, my goal was to hit fools so hard they didn't get back up. The guy on the other side of the ball was the cause of all my pain, all my anger, all my hatred, and I'm gonna make him pay, make him feel my pain. And.... so I did. The problem was off the field I was really nuts. Because I bottled everything up, I'd end up losing control if something triggered me. I mean literally losing control, I'd see red, and lose all self control. I could see what I was doing, but couldn't stop myself. I'd just snap. It took me YEARS after I stopped playing to learn how to control my temper it was that bad. The only thing that kept me out of jail was that my pop always taught me, never hit someone in anger. He drilled that into me. So, when I would snap, I would demolish inanimate objects, walls, cars, anything I could get my hands on that wasn't a living thing. I remember when I was a teenager Mom slapped me across the face for calling dad an a$$hole, I snapped, put my head through the horse hair plaster walls a half dozen times before I regained control. The scariest thing was how big I was. I was 6' tall, and weighed 296. I had a 22" neck, and a 56" chest. Could bench 425, and lift half a ton on a leg press. When I enlisted the DI at the reception battalion said "jesus, you're the biggest guy we've ever had come through here. You only have to lose 12 pounds to make weight". The initially said I had to get down to 176 to make my weight to height ratio. Anyway. If you bottle up your baggage, stop. Find a way of dealing with it. It's very unhealthy. I learned to meditate, I used to chop down trees with an axe. Anything you can do as an outlet to get that evil out of you, before it forces it's way out, in ways you can't control.
Damn dude, glad you found your way. Dont underestimate the power of finding a good therapist. Renting someone elses brain to help you sort your shit really pays off.
you're not alone...I have anger management issues as well but unlike you I'm physically the opposite, only 5'7" 165 lbs, and not muscular at all but I can be very ferocious if provoked...The things that trigger my volcanic anger usually stem from what I perceive as situations where one is taken advantage of, for example, bullies, animal abuse, or simply unprovoked attacks. I definitely need a release and holding in my anger negatively affects me physically. I scream into a pillow or take deep breaths and they both help. Ultimately, however, I would love to channel all that negative energy into something positive through meditation, exercise, and hopefully therapy but not affordable for me...anyways, good luck hope you found peace!
@Ben Thompson that being said you should of been angry at your football coach for putting you at LB. I'm sure that being 296lbs you were a tad bit slow and you missed an incredible amount of tackles. In reality you should of been a center. I hope all is well for you now.
bro your story reminds me not only of me but handfuls of my friends and younger cousins. one of my cousins has a bit of a drinking problem and often ends up drunk and crying about how he "just wants to play football" and it's sad and truthfully i probably have CTE not just from football but from being needlessly violent and reckless. im glad u can at least talk about it my dude our society is sick in the way it tells you that your negative emotions are sin and you shouldnt have them. you gotta find a way to let out the tension that doesnt prepare you for prison or the grave. bless.
Cameron Wilson It’s pretty gross, isn’t it? I remember hearing about this awhile ago & I thought how fucked up it is that he could do this to women. Anytime I hear these kind of stories (rapey shit, serial killers) year they make me feel really uncomfortable. I don’t blame you for needing a shower.
Those guys are as mentally messed up as him, they just aren't famous. Gotta keep them locked up since they can't control themselves but I don't know about corporal punishment
On the other side of the coin though you have guys like Shockey, O'Leary, Graham and Olson who were (as near as I could tell) solid guys who had good work ethics, loved their families and stayed out of trouble. If you look at Winslow and Hernandez the problems that haunted them go way deeper than where they went to school, and we should remember that neither of them were born or raised in Florida.
I live hear in tampa and Peter Warwick is the greatest athlete to ever come out of the tampa bay area he was a legend since little league. He had Heisman trophy hands down if that mall situation in Dillards never happened. Best wr Florida state ever had
How you not at 1 million subs yet, your videos are A1. Your content is honest the best on TH-cam. I’m make sure all my homeboys check you out. Keep up the great work Dawg!!!
My gosh you are so right about the children. Way too many parents are like this. Unfortunately my daughter was one of them. I ended up taking her daughters for many reasons but that was also one of the reasons. I am so glad someone other than a doctor is discussing this. So many people will be hearing this and if helps one child I will be so happy. But I honestly believe you will help quite a few of them, a huge THANK YOU GOD BLESS
@@tmzebe530 Look man, I may not agree with all of the changes made to football over the last decade plus, but the game being made safer will never be a bad thing to me. There's no reason you shouldn't be able to have a life after football
I tell you the highlights from 80s and 90s nfl are just daaaammmn, now when you go back and look after watching today's games, qbs ended up under the opposing teams bench after a play lol
What a strange, sick and twisted man. This video continued stacking up with the sexual assaults and then the elderly women came into play. Dude got some serious issues and he's gonna get what's coming to him. What's sad is had he not been caught doing these things, his acts could have got worse...
Dude I just found you on TH-cam and you do great work. I was actually wondering about his whole story and you told his story remarkably. good luck, your future is bright.
I know you *HATE* making videos like this man but you know what, this video serves as a life lesson. Give yourself some props B, you might've saved some people from *choosing* to make bad decisions with this 💯👌
Tough to watch, but as you said, we can't hide from the negative. You did about as respectful a job as you could with this very tough subject. First vid I've seen of yours, but I'm subscribing. Looking forward to the more inspirational stories, though.
He looked surprised and then angry at his attorney. WTF? You're guilty, dude! I agree that something must have happened to him as a child but I can't feel sorry for him. That only justifies his actions and as a woman who was on the receiving end of a rape, it cheapens the damage he's done. I was 18 when it happened. I'm 60 now. It's a life sentence.
As a new subscriber after watching 2 videos I must say , Your a real ☝️ my dude, I appreciate the way you articulate things and how you always keep it as positive as possible from your perspective and opinion and just present the facts without taking a bunch of shots or poking fun at any situations. For a TH-cam channel you handle yourself extremely professional and continuing like this will only bring more subscribers.
Thanks for sharing. We all want stories of redemption. Hopefully, by you sharing this story, someone will be able to offer to help Kellen, and he will accept it. Rough, and needed. Prayers and best wishes for Kellen.
@No Comps some of these dudes don’t even kno how to speak during a interview let alone ah female an jus cause they in the nfl don’t mean they can have any female at will now they prolly can BUY any of the female gold diggers so them buying pussy would be the safest route or find a wife and marry her but rape is out the question
@No Comps C'mon man, some women, most women, respect themselves. This narrative that rich, powerful, famous people can get any girl is not reality. Its actually sad that people think that. More girls with less effort, of course. Certainly not "any" girl or "all" cheerleaders.
Lmaoo bro I know I shouldn't laugh but the part where he was beating his meat in the car killed me. Like bro that was so absurd! They should've institutionalized him right then and there.
John Nichols good man? Did you not watch the video? He came and took the mother of his children’s furniture.....he was still in the NFL making money! He didn’t have to do stuff like that.
Me; “FlemLo Raps why your videos be so fire 🔥?” FlemLo: “Cause you love that $hit!, you love that $hit!, you love that $hit!, and I know you love that $hit! 8:43 😂😂😂😂😂💀
Started watching as your stuff popped into my feed. Subscribed after your speech at the start of this video and the research you do for your videos (love somebody after putting in the work aka your videos always hit) Keep it up!
@R Showers - You just made me search for Darren Shaper. Wow! Can’t believe I hadn’t heard about that. You’re right. It would get at least 3 million views.
He was a boss when he was playing. I miss him playing in the NFL. Such a tough and physical competitor. Definitely very underrated and should be in the hall of fame one day.
While he does have 2 rings for the giants one he was in a suite drinking because he was injured for the whole post season. I think he only had a few catches in the saints superbowl
This is probably the 5th straight video of yours that I've watched and this is some top level reporting! FWIW I remember the Butch Davis days and the motor cycle accident was from Winslow doing a wheelie in a parking lot while practicing motorcycle tricks. It wasn't even normal motorcycle riding. His crash put him through like 2 small trees and his right leg went through the handlebars, which were completely split off the bike from the force of the crash. I have the crash pics saved somewhere that were posted on the DawgTalk message board back then.
5:04 sums it all up. I remember Daddy defending him after the “I’m a soldier” rant and I knew he was a spoiled punk. He finally either ran into a situation Daddy couldn’t fix or Daddy got sick of fixing it.
You do your research and report it fairly...and we'll... It's tragic when people choose badly. We still appreciate hearing about players who don't get an incredible amount of press. Please keep it up. Thank you.
I appreciate you video, it's sad as when I was in high school he was my favorite player, such a talent for the U and the browns. So sad to hear where his life turned
Kellen Sr. failed as a father, badly. Though Jr. still needs to take responsibility for his own actions....many children grow up in tough circumstances with no father or divorced parents etc.
@@HiHello-wz6bx money doesn't make good kids dude, look at celebrity kids they are all on drugs and depressed. Kids need emotional and parental stability
I rarely ever comment on TH-cam videos but I want to say I really appreciate how you go into every situation with a level head and sympathy. Only started watching your videos recently but I can tell you're a good dude and a really talented commentator/analyst. Much love man, keep making great videos
Yeah but honestly hearing this story I think their are a lotta different factors at play as flemlo said it wouldn't surprise me if an older person (especially a woman) took advantage of him sexually when he was young but also just by going of his behavior in college you can tell he probably was never wrapped that tight upstairs
John Davis maybe he got some bad tendencies from his pops but he took it to a whole another level. Let’s be honest who knows what players did before when social media wasn’t around like it is nowadays and it was a lot easier to sweep things under the rug .
Damn, He was a deeply disturbed person an his father probably knew it but continued to sweep thing's under the rug because he saw the talent/Dollar signs of what was to come. Very SAD!!!
Love your content FlemLo. I'm Irish so I admittedly don't know a ton about the NFL/American Football. Soccer is my favourite sport, followed by Rugby, then GAA then probably Basketball or Cricket but your videos are so engaging. Love the research you put in and the way you deliver the content. Never miss a video and I always learn something I didn't know. Puts a lot of things in context for me so thanks man. Hopefully get to a mil subs soon!
Thank you for sharing such an accurate and informative presentation. New to your channel thoroughly enjoyed content and subscribed today. Recently watched a portion of his trial and sentencing on Court TV. I was shocked at the arrogance and boldness of his actions. At sentencing, acceptance of the plea deal, required he admit guilt to the charges against him and he really struggled with that. I believe he felt he wasn't wrong and why's everyone making such a big deal of this. Thanks again and looking forward to more.
Young man, I am 58yrs. old. Of all the broadcasters, storytellers, etc. I have seen, you are up there with the best of them. Straight to the heart of a story, all facts no fiction, and an obvious enjoyment for what you're doing. Great work. Would love to see you on The Herd.
Daniel Cain totally agree!
I was looking to add a comment and was scrolling to make sure nobody said what I said. You took the words out of my mouth.
Boomer
@@abney_66 Gen Z
Flemlo legit I'm rarely impressed by youtubers
I love how you never take shots at people, you just present the facts. You are a great source of info, entertainment, and inspiration.
Honestly the most important thing about these videos.
@@jeccwrs5495 That was not the point of my comment. In fact it had nothing to do with the subject, and was about FlemLo's style of journalism.
Facts
He took a shot at the Redskins Organization
He definitely called him trash and scum bag and some more shit,, those are shots
You are my 30 for 30. Keep up the good work.
Ernest Young facts
ESPN 30 for 30 films
Prestige Worldwide
Opinion not fact
I grew up watching his dad play. It hurts to see the issues that Sr had that had a negative impact on Jr. Much prayer needed.
“You write that down”
Reporter: “oh believe me, I will”
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Dude doesn't give a hell about nothing
@@qhorton6743 He’s such a bitch.
Ight so I work at a Vape shop and I told my boss about your channel and now every time we make a sale he yells Que da Wayne😂🤙🏻
dopest story yet
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@@sugabearization lol
my dad actually knew the guy before everything happened, as he lived in texas for a little bit and they rode bikes together a few times. He said the guy obviously had a ton of CTE and was severely messed up in the head. he had a ton of short term memory issues and you could just tell something was wrong. you don’t gotta believe this as im just some random on the internet commenting this but i promise you it’s true. was super excited about getting a signed helmet for a few months before everything happened.
Ayy love ur channel man got like half my playlist off of there
Stfu bro all football players in that era had same attitude not something out of ordinary.. dont step over lanes you dont know trust me I know
@@johnross5087 Can you clarify your specific point ?
Exactly. Alot of People STILL don't know about CTE.
@@johnross5087 NO, YOU STFU, IGNORANT IDIOT ! He telling THE TRUTH. Alot of Players DID acted that way. They had CTE, too. That's WHY They SUED The NFL for $700M, DUMB🐴 !
"I don't give a hell" is still one of the funniest phrases I've ever heard.
That whole interview was great. About what he's remembered for most since he's a villain.
Especially when one considers just how many F-bombs dude drops on the reg LOL !
I use it at least once a week.
Like when you a kid and thats the only cuss word you can say lol
Very professional of you to talk about how he was brought up before getting into his legal situation. Not condoning his behavior, but realizing people don’t just turn into these monsters overnight.
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Yes, that behavior has a reason and I also thought of something that might’ve happened to him when he was a child because to just target that specific demographic of women is odd. I hope he gets help.
Treated him like ass so he became an ass... yea unfortunately it happens a lot...
I think the entire story should always be told. There's almost always determining factors as to why people do things they do whether it's abusive childhood, psychological issues etc.
I just don't like this idea now of victimizing criminals and no justice for the actual victims. Not calling him a criminal I'm just saying that's how it goes now
He had a privileged life. How the hell does that create a monster? Like everyone I know has a worse childhood. Whatever excuse you can make man..
“I’m a soldier” oh wow dude!!! I remember this when it happened and it was obvious something was up then. Even more sad now looking at what he turned into.
Yeah. Huge football fan. I saw that interview live. Couldn't believe it...
YohYamialwayzHIGH right?! I had completely forgotten about this craziness and being a huge HUGE college football fan I remember waking up to this on sports center and had to do a double take. At first I thought it was like a pre game hype up or someone just clowning.... NO, he really went there.
I’m not much into football. However, I grew up in Miami and they played that clip all over the news. It was a big deal then to just say ass on tv let alone fuck.
I’m not sad.
You were NEVER a soldier, you couldn’t hold a soldier’s jock strap.
This is crazy man. in 2004 i remember as a Skins fan. we had the # 5 pick and had a chance to get Sean Taylor or KW2. I wanted Sean all day, something didnt seem right mentally with KW2. And Sean was killed RIP. but even knowing the future, i would still have drafted Sean T.
Unfortunate turnout for both guys :(
@@sway_9803 don't compare Taylor to Winslow
If not for the unfortunate incident, Taylor was on the way to a HOF career.
This is so sad. I used to work for his wife when they were in TB and they looked like a loving family and she was a really sweet person too. I pray for his family and children.
58 year old homeless woman, something is really wrong with him.
false news
I think Bill Cosby is his dad
Roid rage🏋🏼♂️
L J so true. Knew a guy who smashed his hand during a roid rage
He figured they were easy pray and wouldn't talk. Or wouldn't be believed if so.
I knew this was coming after getting that ESPN notification the other day 😬
Maybe its a mix of CTE from his football days, and PTSD from his soldier days.
Zero8880 damn, that was clever 😆
comedy gold
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Realistically, I know you were making a humorous reference but there may be some truth to that. That fight in high school was already bad because of his size compared to the student so it was expected that some serious injury would happen, but the hits from college and his pro years may have intensified an apparent mental issue.
Lol
I remember watching Winslow and Adam " Pac man" Jones going at it during college.
Hard to believe Pac man would have a longer career, and cause less trouble
Nobody:
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FlemLo : Cue da Wayne
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I'm so glad I found out what he says.
Manner 707 lmfao....
Manner 707 I thought it wasQe away💀
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So basically, he grew up in a highly toxic environment. Now, it makes sense. Never the less, everyone still has to be held accountable for their own actions. Good vid!
He didn't give a hell
@@danlincoln8987 lol
@@alegutierrez3819 Exactly... a culture that constantly allows people to make excuses for terrible behavior is only going fostering a culture for terrible behavior to continue or normalize en masse.
@@alegutierrez3819 that's my cousin also on MR .RLong side his dad was inducted into the Eastside Football Hall of Fame.
@@jacoreyjones469 hi ! so we are family through marriage
You’re such a positive dude man. I love it. Thank you for being a source of positivity in a time where people are constantly being negative and hateful. I truly admire and appreciate you for that bro, for real.
Wow. This is serial-killer-like behavior...
He was framed.
damn my mom named me after his dad bro kellen Winslow because the name is so original and a hall of famer was named that sadly his son is ruining that legacy for me.
@@KodenameKel As many have said, framed.
He was framed
@@hargaisaowen7131 how was he framed
No accountability, parenthood, teachers and coaches as well. This stuff was going on for years, no one wants to say my kid or friend is a rapist but let someone know or get him help.
Damn.. I still remember getting Winslow on madden back in the day... crazy seeing this so many years later...
Dude was my favorite TE in madden
@@Seto34 mine too.. I would get him and vick.. speed used to dominate that game back then
Dude was a beast in Madden 09
Holy shit I remember throwing so many passes to him on Madden 11 on career mode and I thought he was awesome. But now after seeing this, I can only imagine how much of a cancer in the locker room my player had to put up with.
I used him in college football 🏈 he caught everything
14:18 Anybody else thought their phone brightness went down and attempted to turn it up? 😂😂
Patrick Clark yes sir
Me lmao
Lol yeah
I played football for years. It actually kind of screwed me up. I taught myself to bottle up everything in life, all my aggression, anger, frustration, sorrow... everything that was negative, EVERYTHING, and let it all out on the field. I primarily played LB, and I was mean... really mean. I absolutely loved hitting people, my goal was to hit fools so hard they didn't get back up. The guy on the other side of the ball was the cause of all my pain, all my anger, all my hatred, and I'm gonna make him pay, make him feel my pain. And.... so I did. The problem was off the field I was really nuts. Because I bottled everything up, I'd end up losing control if something triggered me. I mean literally losing control, I'd see red, and lose all self control. I could see what I was doing, but couldn't stop myself. I'd just snap. It took me YEARS after I stopped playing to learn how to control my temper it was that bad. The only thing that kept me out of jail was that my pop always taught me, never hit someone in anger. He drilled that into me. So, when I would snap, I would demolish inanimate objects, walls, cars, anything I could get my hands on that wasn't a living thing. I remember when I was a teenager Mom slapped me across the face for calling dad an a$$hole, I snapped, put my head through the horse hair plaster walls a half dozen times before I regained control. The scariest thing was how big I was. I was 6' tall, and weighed 296. I had a 22" neck, and a 56" chest. Could bench 425, and lift half a ton on a leg press. When I enlisted the DI at the reception battalion said "jesus, you're the biggest guy we've ever had come through here. You only have to lose 12 pounds to make weight". The initially said I had to get down to 176 to make my weight to height ratio.
Anyway. If you bottle up your baggage, stop. Find a way of dealing with it. It's very unhealthy. I learned to meditate, I used to chop down trees with an axe. Anything you can do as an outlet to get that evil out of you, before it forces it's way out, in ways you can't control.
Damn dude, glad you found your way. Dont underestimate the power of finding a good therapist. Renting someone elses brain to help you sort your shit really pays off.
you're not alone...I have anger management issues as well but unlike you I'm physically the opposite, only 5'7" 165 lbs, and not muscular at all but I can be very ferocious if provoked...The things that trigger my volcanic anger usually stem from what I perceive as situations where one is taken advantage of, for example, bullies, animal abuse, or simply unprovoked attacks. I definitely need a release and holding in my anger negatively affects me physically. I scream into a pillow or take deep breaths and they both help. Ultimately, however, I would love to channel all that negative energy into something positive through meditation, exercise, and hopefully therapy but not affordable for me...anyways, good luck hope you found peace!
Mf you were leg pressing 1,000 lbs 🤯
@Ben Thompson that being said you should of been angry at your football coach for putting you at LB. I'm sure that being 296lbs you were a tad bit slow and you missed an incredible amount of tackles. In reality you should of been a center. I hope all is well for you now.
bro your story reminds me not only of me but handfuls of my friends and younger cousins. one of my cousins has a bit of a drinking problem and often ends up drunk and crying about how he "just wants to play football" and it's sad and truthfully i probably have CTE not just from football but from being needlessly violent and reckless. im glad u can at least talk about it my dude our society is sick in the way it tells you that your negative emotions are sin and you shouldnt have them. you gotta find a way to let out the tension that doesnt prepare you for prison or the grave. bless.
I feel like I have to take a shower after listening to this man's story.....
Cameron Wilson It’s pretty gross, isn’t it? I remember hearing about this awhile ago & I thought how fucked up it is that he could do this to women. Anytime I hear these kind of stories (rapey shit, serial killers) year they make me feel really uncomfortable. I don’t blame you for needing a shower.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 people have issues and lots of times it's their parents or some abuser who makes them like that
"I don't give a freaking frick"- Kellen Winslow Jr.
tom filippo 😂
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Sounding like Philip Rivers
😅he should have just said the words
He looks like the love child of The Rock and Vin Diesel.
They don't get along with each other, so more like...the Hatechild of The Rock and Vin Diesel. I refuse to apologize for that joke.
@@rusalexander1757 hu 78 bi bi
Nah, he looks like the son of kellen winslow.. dude is the spitting image of his dad
Vin Pebble
In the rocks wildest dreams😂
He got 14 years.. hopefully he'll never hurt anyone else again..
Except the child molesters in there with him. Yeah he should hurt them... ..
Those guys are as mentally messed up as him, they just aren't famous. Gotta keep them locked up since they can't control themselves but I don't know about corporal punishment
He shouldve got life
@@loganbremerman1248 yes u r right buddy
What's up with TEs from these Florida schools lol
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On the other side of the coin though you have guys like Shockey, O'Leary, Graham and Olson who were (as near as I could tell) solid guys who had good work ethics, loved their families and stayed out of trouble. If you look at Winslow and Hernandez the problems that haunted them go way deeper than where they went to school, and we should remember that neither of them were born or raised in Florida.
Right.... smh 🤦🏾♂️
@Rowdy Jr. its the water
William Jr Pfann damn straight but I would like to add its Florida colleges they don’t represent us lol
Bro please do What happened to Peter Warrick or Everett Golson! Great vid bro keep it up!
Jeff Buggs who is that
Yea Peter Warrick would be a good one
Yea Peter Warrick use to be one my favourite players
I live hear in tampa and Peter Warwick is the greatest athlete to ever come out of the tampa bay area he was a legend since little league. He had Heisman trophy hands down if that mall situation in Dillards never happened. Best wr Florida state ever had
Peter Warrick AND Laveranues Coles
How you not at 1 million subs yet, your videos are A1. Your content is honest the best on TH-cam. I’m make sure all my homeboys check you out. Keep up the great work Dawg!!!
My gosh you are so right about the children. Way too many parents are like this. Unfortunately my daughter was one of them. I ended up taking her daughters for many reasons but that was also one of the reasons. I am so glad someone other than a doctor is discussing this. So many people will be hearing this and if helps one child I will be so happy. But I honestly believe you will help quite a few of them, a huge THANK YOU GOD BLESS
"They will kill you. They're out there to kill you. So I'mma kill them."
I, uhh...I don't think Kellen fully understood the rules of football.
Underrated comment
Mans was on one that day...and pretty much every day after 😑
Back then it was kill or be killed. Wasn't soft like today's game.
@@tmzebe530 Look man, I may not agree with all of the changes made to football over the last decade plus, but the game being made safer will never be a bad thing to me. There's no reason you shouldn't be able to have a life after football
I tell you the highlights from 80s and 90s nfl are just daaaammmn, now when you go back and look after watching today's games, qbs ended up under the opposing teams bench after a play lol
At 14:18, who thought something was wrong with their screen when it went dark?
Brandon Nash atleast I wasn’t the only one that panicked for a moment 💀
@Carter Freeman Movies lol I did the same thing
Haha. Me too
Man I thought my phones battery was dying smh lol
I did I try to touch the screen to get it bright again lol.
"money and influence allows you to get away with things other people could not"....that's called privilege
Yep black privilege the biggest and only real privilege there is
If he was poor they wouldn't have even bothered suing
Ya’ll are tribal as fuck
It's not a race thing, it's a social class thing.
Instead of attacking the idea of privilege, you guys chose to attack the idea of race and the idea of political parties. Seek help.
“I don’t give a hell” 😂😂 (2022 I’m still ctfu dawg😂😂)
Yup, if you want to just get the unbiased story from someone so passionate about the game and about people this is where you find it!!!!!
What a strange, sick and twisted man. This video continued stacking up with the sexual assaults and then the elderly women came into play. Dude got some serious issues and he's gonna get what's coming to him.
What's sad is had he not been caught doing these things, his acts could have got worse...
Dude I just found you on TH-cam and you do great work. I was actually wondering about his whole story and you told his story remarkably. good luck, your future is bright.
I really enjoy the way you present these stories. Great stuff!
I know this is a hard video but I appreciate you making it flem
I know you *HATE* making videos like this man but you know what, this video serves as a life lesson. Give yourself some props B, you might've saved some people from *choosing* to make bad decisions with this 💯👌
Aaron Hernandez: I shall call him mini me
J Dee Carter that’s a terrible thing to say bro. words have more power than you think.
Fuck your bitch ass THE GREATEST TE AARON HERNANDEZ
@@509Syndicateyeah that guy was a killer TE.
JD3Boi Its sad.
You wildin
Yo that was a great point about him possibly having been abused by an elderly woman and that caused his sexual deviation
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That’s the part I didn’t like, just speculation, idk doesn’t seem right
He definitely has some fetish for woman in their late 50s, and not very healthy looking ones. Homeless Hitchhiker's?that nasty
@@dominicm255 theyre the most vulnerable people he can find
Not an excuse
I find your videos to all be very fair minded, informative and most of all entertaining. Great work!!
Holy shit that got dark fast. I thought I was prepared when you told me to brace myself. I was wrong.
Tough to watch, but as you said, we can't hide from the negative. You did about as respectful a job as you could with this very tough subject. First vid I've seen of yours, but I'm subscribing. Looking forward to the more inspirational stories, though.
That was a solid story. Great job presenting it. Incredibly objective. Looking forward to seeing more of your work.
He looked surprised and then angry at his attorney. WTF? You're guilty, dude! I agree that something must have happened to him as a child but I can't feel sorry for him. That only justifies his actions and as a woman who was on the receiving end of a rape, it cheapens the damage he's done. I was 18 when it happened. I'm 60 now. It's a life sentence.
😢so sorry it happened to me as an youth very hurt still about it and I can’t trust anyone
Wow. Thanks for sharing your impactful story.
As a new subscriber after watching 2 videos I must say , Your a real ☝️ my dude, I appreciate the way you articulate things and how you always keep it as positive as possible from your perspective and opinion and just present the facts without taking a bunch of shots or poking fun at any situations.
For a TH-cam channel you handle yourself extremely professional and continuing like this will only bring more subscribers.
The fact that this guy got less time than a dealer who sold some weed is insane. This video made me upset, but thank you for making it Flemlo.
DigBigger Nicks that’s the dumbass jury for you. Deadlocked on 8 counts. Would have got life if found on all.
Thanks for sharing. We all want stories of redemption. Hopefully, by you sharing this story, someone will be able to offer to help Kellen, and he will accept it. Rough, and needed. Prayers and best wishes for Kellen.
I've been binge watching a lot of your older videos, it's nice to finally catch one right when it drops. Good stuff as always bro 💯💯
DigitalChefENT ikr
You do a tremendous job on your videos. I wish all channels could be this professionally done. Thank You! and keep up the awesome work.
Over the last couple months I’ve fallen in love with your very informational vids and respectful way you shoot them. Good stuff! Sub’d.
Wonderful storyteller. Blessings to you. You need to be getting paid big time for this because you are the best out there.
You’re so good at explaining the darkest things in a very calming manor and it’s impressive as hell.
all those millions and he could have just paid an escort for his urges. What a fool
I don't think it's about just the sex, more about the power dynamic involved in rape...
You would’ve thought
@No Comps some of these dudes don’t even kno how to speak during a interview let alone ah female an jus cause they in the nfl don’t mean they can have any female at will now they prolly can BUY any of the female gold diggers so them buying pussy would be the safest route or find a wife and marry her but rape is out the question
@No Comps C'mon man, some women, most women, respect themselves. This narrative that rich, powerful, famous people can get any girl is not reality. Its actually sad that people think that. More girls with less effort, of course. Certainly not "any" girl or "all" cheerleaders.
@No Comps Okag bro! At least you've gone done from whatever to most. It's still less than that.
Just stumbled on your chanel and i'm impressed and subscribed. Great content and delivery, no BS, Direct and to the point .
Lmaoo bro I know I shouldn't laugh but the part where he was beating his meat in the car killed me. Like bro that was so absurd! They should've institutionalized him right then and there.
In his own backseat too 😆🤣
That's completely normal dude
Mhh...we all know you liked that"beating" part🤣🤣🤣
As a ravens fan even i liked Kellen Winslow Jr. Especially with the U connection. But man hes messed up
@John Nichols i wonder how Kellen Winslow Sr feels about this, truly a sad to hear what happened to those women. Jr can rot with urgency.
Jr I thought he was gonna be better than his dad but nah damn so sr had a double life and affected his ass
Dude is fucked in the head
He's a fuckin soldier!
John Nichols good man? Did you not watch the video? He came and took the mother of his children’s furniture.....he was still in the NFL making money! He didn’t have to do stuff like that.
That was an amazingly complete report. Thanks for doing the research on this.
That's crazy. He was my favorite as a younger kid. Can't believe I looked up to someone like this 😒
Bro you're videos are so well done, that once I start watching I can't stop 🤦🏽♂️🤣Keep up the great work 💯🙏
your pure neutral optimism is legit my favorite thing about your vids another good vid flem🙏
I like how you wrapped this one up, by basically saying he needs to get real help with his issues. Good piece
Me; “FlemLo Raps why your videos be so fire 🔥?”
FlemLo: “Cause you love that $hit!, you love that $hit!, you love that $hit!, and I know you love that $hit!
8:43 😂😂😂😂😂💀
Lmfbo!!!!!!
You are so good at this. You put it all out there without judgement. You’re just an amazing journalist. Thank you for your content.
Im a f-ing soldier! Lol so corny 🤣
He said that right when I saw this 😂😂😂
Stop it✋ everybody knows it all about the U🙌
Lol 🤣 right
Yeah, I cringed so hard...
Just a blip. I cringed too 😂
R Kelly - your daughters aren't safe
K Winslow - your grandma isn't safe
Bill Clinton - no one is safe
Hillary was safe
And Donald Trump.....?
@Matt Siqueiros yea that was a stupid comment
The list can go on and on Harvey Weinstein, Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson, Roman Polanski, Kevin Spacey, Darren Sharper...
Trump checks out his daughter and has spoken about how he would be with her if she wasn’t his daughter.
You can see the lack of a soul in a man in his eyes. Check the interview in the intro.
No you can't. Shut up
Good observation....you're right on...
Dan Thompson something didn’t sit right with how he was lookin into the camera, he’s probably been disturbed for a long time
You are a natural story teller. It’s easy to listen to you, and you clearly put in your work. This is a sad one truthfully told. Nice job young man!
Started watching as your stuff popped into my feed.
Subscribed after your speech at the start of this video and the research you do for your videos (love somebody after putting in the work aka your videos always hit) Keep it up!
Bro your videos are the most well done, well thought out and professionally narrated on all of TH-cam I swear you’re the 🐐.
I got to wonder: When is the Darren Sharper video coming? Thank me later....that’ll get 3m views....
the hardest hitting safety in the league
Nah Darren sharper was more of a ball hawk
Maybe FlemLo can get in on visitor day.....
Bernard Spann It’s a reference to a TH-cam video.
@R Showers - You just made me search for Darren Shaper. Wow! Can’t believe I hadn’t heard about that. You’re right. It would get at least 3 million views.
A lot of us are excited about Target’s low prices, we just have a different way of expressing that excitement.
Dude, Well done. That’s hilarious. Thought you’d of got more love for that one. I myself don’t shop at Targ’et but because of your comment I will.
Or he was there looking for his next target!
Lol
That's the funniest thing I've read all year hilarious dude
I am still laughing
Hide your grandma's!!
Why lol I don’t get it
@@UrbanGrafittitales watch the video
5:42
Jeremy Shockey
2001 ncaa championship
2002/03 Rookie of the year
SB42 Champion with NY Giants
SB44 Champion with New Orleans
He was a boss when he was playing. I miss him playing in the NFL. Such a tough and physical competitor. Definitely very underrated and should be in the hall of fame one day.
While he does have 2 rings for the giants one he was in a suite drinking because he was injured for the whole post season. I think he only had a few catches in the saints superbowl
@Edwin Keith my point is he was a non factor in getting the rings
Didnt he snitch on the saints for the bounty scandal
And he was on the cover NFL street 2
bruh this just happened and Flemlo already got all this research done?! Go getter!!
He just got convicted this has been going on for awhile
It's all public
google= go getter? no disrespect to Flemlo, his presentations are solid and i watch all of them. but the research can be had in 20 minutes
This is probably the 5th straight video of yours that I've watched and this is some top level reporting! FWIW I remember the Butch Davis days and the motor cycle accident was from Winslow doing a wheelie in a parking lot while practicing motorcycle tricks. It wasn't even normal motorcycle riding. His crash put him through like 2 small trees and his right leg went through the handlebars, which were completely split off the bike from the force of the crash. I have the crash pics saved somewhere that were posted on the DawgTalk message board back then.
I know how you feel Flem, but you presented the facts! Much Love, homie! Keep doin ya thing.. God Bless
Just Got off Work nothing better than Grabbing A drink while I watch Flems new video.
Notification squad Wya??
Hit that bell 👉🔔
That was super crazy!!! Dude went absolutely nuts.... I was not aware of this at all!!!!
Same here.
7:11 I love how they threw shade at him lmaoo “no TD catches in last 8 games”.
Also, I have NEVER heard anyone say “I don’t give a hell”😂😂wtf is that
Trying not to swear lol
😂
Love your videos, so well-done and informative. Keep up the great work my dude 💯
5:04 sums it all up. I remember Daddy defending him after the “I’m a soldier” rant and I knew he was a spoiled punk. He finally either ran into a situation Daddy couldn’t fix or Daddy got sick of fixing it.
You do your research and report it fairly...and we'll... It's tragic when people choose badly. We still appreciate hearing about players who don't get an incredible amount of press. Please keep it up. Thank you.
Please don’t ever sell out to an ESPN, keep doing what your doing.
Ha!
I appreciate you video, it's sad as when I was in high school he was my favorite player, such a talent for the U and the browns. So sad to hear where his life turned
Kellen Sr. failed as a father, badly. Though Jr. still needs to take responsibility for his own actions....many children grow up in tough circumstances with no father or divorced parents etc.
Yes, Kellen Winslow Sr has failed as a dad. Guess fame an money aint enough
That wasnt his case though. Kellen grew up with K1. I went to high with him
@@HiHello-wz6bx money doesn't make good kids dude, look at celebrity kids they are all on drugs and depressed. Kids need emotional and parental stability
No he didn't k2 failed as a son ..his dad provided him with the tools .
@@dirty30themarathoncontinue37 he was possibly abused by an older woman
You always have great videos man. Thank you for a detailed and interesting presentation. I also appreciate your common sense takes.
I rarely ever comment on TH-cam videos but I want to say I really appreciate how you go into every situation with a level head and sympathy. Only started watching your videos recently but I can tell you're a good dude and a really talented commentator/analyst. Much love man, keep making great videos
They should bring back Celebrity Death Match on MTV so they can have Aaron Hernandez vs Kellen Winslow Jr with special guest referee Tim Tebow
Hernandez wins easily.... and it pains me to say that cuz "It's all about The U!!".
I've got it! 3 way match between Aaron Hernandez, Kellen Winslow jr, and Ray Rice! As always... good fight and good night!
Um you know Hernandez is dead right?
Jeremy Shockey can have his own "What Happened to" video
I'm watching everything u put out and sharing. Good work!
So basically, Winslow Jr. is what happens when parents use their kids as pawns.
Phil Michaels no. Cant blame the victimizing of women on that tho.
No Winslow just happens to be a despicable POS all on his own
Sue co sign. He is a despicable guy.
Yeah but honestly hearing this story I think their are a lotta different factors at play as flemlo said it wouldn't surprise me if an older person (especially a woman) took advantage of him sexually when he was young but also just by going of his behavior in college you can tell he probably was never wrapped that tight upstairs
John Davis maybe he got some bad tendencies from his pops but he took it to a whole another level. Let’s be honest who knows what players did before when social media wasn’t around like it is nowadays and it was a lot easier to sweep things under the rug .
Damn, He was a deeply disturbed person an his father probably knew it but continued to sweep thing's under the rug because he saw the talent/Dollar signs of what was to come. Very SAD!!!
When you pointed out the vasoline I lost it😂😂😂
Love your content FlemLo. I'm Irish so I admittedly don't know a ton about the NFL/American Football. Soccer is my favourite sport, followed by Rugby, then GAA then probably Basketball or Cricket but your videos are so engaging. Love the research you put in and the way you deliver the content. Never miss a video and I always learn something I didn't know. Puts a lot of things in context for me so thanks man. Hopefully get to a mil subs soon!
Thank you for sharing such an accurate and informative presentation. New to your channel thoroughly enjoyed content and subscribed today. Recently watched a portion of his trial and sentencing on Court TV. I was shocked at the arrogance and boldness of his actions. At sentencing, acceptance of the plea deal, required he admit guilt to the charges against him and he really struggled with that. I believe he felt he wasn't wrong and why's everyone making such a big deal of this. Thanks again and looking forward to more.