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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- Getting a bogged Suzuki Grand Vitara out at Indian Head, Fraser Island, Queensland, Australia.
Getting bogged was my fault, I got into a 4x4 tour bus rut then lost all momentum in a soft spot trying to get back into the 4x4 rut.
Didn't make that mistake again on the whole trip. This was the only time we got stuck in 3 days.
A very big thank you to everyone that helped out!
Hey mate, just a word about Maxtrax, you'll get a lot better results if you dig a bit more and get a "flatter" ramp out.
The angle you've got on them is way too steep and that's why the wheels aren't gripping. Also you can try rocking back a bit and then having a bit of momentum to get on the track initially.
I've got a Forester myself, nothing special just the usual 4kg centre and open diffs front and rear. I've often had to use a track for each wheel.
No Worries...Understood! It's just that I see so many using them as 'tow ropes' lately (and they can be used that way if absolutely necessary) when they could/should be used how they were meant to be.
Cheers.....and have fun!
Was running 20psi. Didn't want to go too much lower as it would have increased the chances of blowing the bead on the high speed sections. Yeah this was soft sand. Little hard to see on the video but it's the highest point on this section of beach and all the sand there is wind blown so very loosely packed.
learn how to use a snatch 'n' strap properly and you would have been right from the start. lol.
funny to watch anyway.
We winched from the hook on front of the Vitara. However my understanding is it's not a true recovery point but for attaching a fastener during vehicle delivery. That was the reason we didn't use a lot of velocity with the snatch strap. Re dropping the tire pressure and digging all around, yep that's true and if I had to do a self recovery all things I would have done. But with so many other 4x4s around it's quicker and easier to get someone else to pull me out. Yep clearance is an issue!
The reason we didn't use the snatch strap properly i.e reversing a few metres to get a run up and pulling with some momentum, is because the point on the car which I attached it isn't a true recovery point and I was concerned it was going to pull the lug off the car.
I have unbogged a 12 ton truck on Moreton using the method described by a few people here, just keep digging back and front of tyres and roll slowly back and forth. Possibly the others didn't mention make sure once you have that hard packed little track to knock off/ smooth out the lip at the front of your track.
Thank you for your reply,Yeah it looks hard going, I am heading up there in October for a week at orchid beach, did you get up the top on your trip, I heard that had been closed but am hoping that's not the case now.
It totally depends on the vehicle. Heavy vehicles only reduce tyre pressure to around 25 psi minimum but lighter vehicles can reduce by much more. I have reduced to under 15 PSI to get out of a situation and then re-inflated to 20. Some People get all twisted about low tyre pressure and breaking the bead between the tyre and the rim when cornering but if you keep it in mind whilst cornering it is never a problem. At the end of the day it comes down to how good a driver are you and how well do you understand your car and your tyres. If you are an encyclopaedia with no practical knowledge then go back to your city and forget it!.
I live in the Atacama desert, fine sand.
Never accelerate in sand, then you are buried.
Easy way, put out the sand infront the wheels, smooth, and run slowly.
4H, and don´t stop.
That all.!!
Of course Stacy Green is commenting about how he never gets bogged in the sandpit playing with his tonka toys
It's like the blind leading the blind... I can't watch it all.....
Problem No.1- the Maxtrax would have worked fine had the belly of the car been cleared of sand and sand cleared away from the rear wheels also.
Problem No.2- Landcruiser man had NO idea how to use a snatch strap, it is not a tow rope it holds kinetic energy and if used correctly would of had you out in 2 seconds flat!!
Problem No.3- You needed a bigger shovel.
but what a magic day to get stuck, I can think of worse places.
Never got up to Sandy Cape. We drove up as far as we could which was to South Ngkala Rocks. From there on the track was open but you needed a Landcruiser or Patrol, and preferably lifted unless you don't mind the track panel beating the front and rear of your car as it's very washed and worn out accross those rocks.
I have a GV absolutely love the damn thing but always a cardinal rule....always low range unless u know for sure it’s somewhat firm. the esp kicks in when in hi range and will get u stuck so I tend to always drive in low range in the sand as the esp default is then off and trust me 8-10psi is always best traversing on deep soft sand and yes don’t drive it like u stole it and turn hard or u will pop the bead u shouldn’t be driving at speed anyway it’s very dangerous on sand and as most people have mentioned a shovel and air compressor and your sweet ... I’ve never had trouble with clearance mines stock but I think it’s coz I drive accordingly.... good luck and love the wheels p.s the gv’s do better with the standard 16inch wheels more depth in the tyre means better tread dispersion when deflated 😉
Doesn't anyone know how to use a Snatch Strap these days??
One thing that stood out to me was the fact you didn't have a long handled shovel, get some rhino racks and bolt 'em on, there's an attachment also made by rhino that allows you to attach the shovel to the racks, absolutely invaluable. I had thule racks at one stage, unfortunately they don't have an equivalent attachment. Anyway, getting stuck is one thing, can be completely unavoidable, but not having the gear to get yourself out is another. Thanks for sharing.
Drop the tyres to 18psi or less(maybe you did this already).Dig in front and rear and side of all 4 wheels.Dig under the car so that its not sitting on its belly and diffs. Then slowly (in low range) reverse about a foot and then forward a foot. Do this (reverse/first) exercise about 5 times to pack down under your tyres and drive away in first gear low range(slowly). Simple.Hope u enjoyed Fraser - we just came back - towed offroad 2500kg caravan onto island and loved it.2nd time there. Unreal!!
haha the hero comes to save u but doesn't know how to drive either haha
OK....fair enough....although the stretch and snatch effect may actually put less pressure on than a straight pull?? Anyway, might be an Idea to fit a proper recovery hook if you are doing this sort of driving regularly....or you might end up underwater. Cheers.
It amazes me how many people I see who can't use a snatch strap, even a tiny bit of momentum should of got you out, now write this down, IF THE SNATCH STRAP IS NOT TWISTED. When it's twisted it acts like a rubber band and forward momentum is lost in the stretching of the strap, flat, the energy is transferred to the car being snatched.
откуда у них такие пляжи, еще и пустые, гоняют на сузуках блин
Yeah good point regarding a long handled shovel. The reason I didn't have one is I knew being on Fraser Island that there would be other vehicles around to assist. But for sure if I was going somewhere that I'd be unlikely to see anyone else for hours at a time I'd have even more recovery gear with me.
What tire pressures where you running? The sand looks very soft
How did he ever get bogged here in the first place? Definitely a novice. This thing is bogged down to the chassis which implicates that they may have done it deliberately or they are just plain stupid. Ordinarily a small reduction in tyre pressure would have fixed it. From here though they need to either dig sand from under the diffs and chassis or get a tow from a larger vehicle. My experience is this, in sand I have driven circles around bogged land cruisers and range rovers in my Suzuki but only because I knew about the right tyre pressure for the conditions. On sand the only thing that will stop a suzuki apart from stupidity is ground clearance which can easily be overcome with a kit. Also, some people think they need to turn off the ESP which effectively disables the traction control. Not a good move when in a difficult 4WD situation. If This is exercise on how to recover a bogged vehicle then it is a huge fail. How could so many people be so stupid!!
haha wow even my forester has never been this bogged. how embarrassing
Just wet the sand
Does your Vitara have a lift kit?
No unfortunately it doesn't. Only has slightly bigger than standard tyres. About 1cm taller and 2cm wider.
ROOKIES! haahahahahahahahaha
first time offroad?
giantranga414 Obviously yes.
10psi
15 psi, darle a la Reversa en 4LOW
ps some new 4x4s there is no point puting rated recovery point on last year recovered susuki jimny bogged half way up doors in mud porring rain, water rizing recoverery made air bags deploy somthing to think about
Use 4L Lock and it will come out easily...........
Gagandeep Singh Sokhey When their is nothing but air under the tyres then no amount of traction modifiers will change that. Apart from treads and digging.
Bahaa shouldn't take a stupid AWD vehicle where it should not go in the first place
jzxtoy you realize that they're 4wd right? Check their website before you argue this one.
Have a look at their system, they aren't a true 4wd with proper clearance and 4wd system, don't care what a website says unless you work on one.
They've got limited slips diffs on front and back and a centre diff that can lock. Explain how this is NOT 4wd? Clearance is similar to most modern 4wds.
Sam Templar - To the best of my knowledge, no LSD on these. Instead, they have traction-control to brake a wheel when it spins. This just results in the car digging itself in deeper in a situation like the one in the video (although it looks like these guys have the traction control switched off - dumb move - That might be what bogged them down in the first place). The centre IS lockable, however. This is a newer version of the one I have. Mine doesn't have LSD or difflockers, either although it does have a proper transfer-case, far superior articulation and better ground-clearance. Suzuki have progressively turned the Vit from a very serious and capable off-road vehicle to an AWD fashion accessory. Although, I do agree that they are still actually 4WD with the centre locked. I'd much rather have our G Vit to one of these, though - RWD on the road and 4WD when needed - Lower fuel consumption and less wear-and-tear on the drivetrain components. Sod that stupid AWD nonsense.
These are very capable 4wds I've done pretty much everything my mates with patrols and hiluxs do. Models 2010 onwards from what I recall have the silly traction control that let the newer ones down as you can't turn it off. Mines the Same shape as this but an 06 manual and with out the traction control.