Keep in mind they really only promised to fix the flamethrower and bugs/glitches. They never promised to buff weapons/players, etc. They’re going to “reexamine their approach” for the 10th time in 6 months.
Have you ever noticed the Berzerkers have skulls and spikes behind their heads on their back but they dont have hands. So that means other bots have to help the berzerker decorate itself with skulls and spikes.
I'm actually really bugged by the devs stance on "realism".. they said "making your magazine refill when you hit a resupply is "unrealistic"; whilst we can shoot a plant and fly across the map, break all our limbs (or not lol), get up, hit a stim, then start sprinting. I cant think of a situation where 'you' (in a "realistic" scenario) would pick up ammo/supplies then not also have reloaded. (sure its "magic" for the sake of "fun") lets not forget its a game. I am sick and tired of the devs using "realism" as any kind of metric in the studio. They need to get rid of that mentality months ago. "Come get your Eagle Sweat here" ffs
I want Arrowhead to go bankrupt and employees be tainted by their dismal work, making further work in industry hard to find. The Stans gaslight HD 2, no game can ever fail, they just become more and more jaded. It is how Ubi Soft, Blizzard, and EA came into being. Blind devotion to their IP with no consequence for failing. Arrowhead will be around in 15 years making some game and arrogantly telling their players they are stupid and don't understand how a game works and to "git gud newb".
@sfjp1 so true it feels like they’ve made so little in so much time! We need more fun urgently and if they aren’t gonna de nerf everything then we need CONTENT stat!
@@erikcoolblue It was leaked months ago they were developing the Illuminate and working on squad vehicles for multiple players. Months ago. Idk what the fuck they been doing all this time to justify not giving the players fun things and instead nerfing everything.
Yeah, the numbers don't add up for the Bile Titan kills lol. The peaks have only been a bit over 20k players on Steam recently, so probably 30k players peak total since PS5 usually has half as many HD2 players. The low points have been down as far as 8k. I think Joel put his finger on the scale or something. They probably planned the MO back when they were expecting a helluva lot more players coming back for the EoF update.
Doubt they're doing anything like that for BT kills... and also this order is clearly to give them more info on what is causing BT's to straight up take zero damage sometimes in the head.
20k-ish peaks? Pfffft during that order it was regularly a good bit more than that. And yes it's possible to kill that many BT - playing 8+ you're killing minimum one, usually more for each breach and they're all over the map and at objectives. Not unusual to down a couple of dozen of them even if you're not going out of your way to kill em all.
@@Grambo-qp4pp The game does. All you have to do is look at total Helldivers online on the map then subtract the Steam number to see how many PS5 players there are and it is usually around 50% of the number of pc players.
I want/demand a 'Field medic' Warbond, with a support type secondary (pistol) and a 'welfare distributor' drone/backpack, that possibly uses your stims as ammo! I want to see the weapons that suck and are useless,- to be buffed by 1.5 and the one's that are 'reliable', to be buffed by 1.1-2. I want to be able to shoot at the enemies, when we descend after jumping with a jetpack, like a fucking shock trooper. I want for the airburst/ anti-air rocket launcher to have a 'double click mechanic', where the first click, is when you launch the missile, then the second click is when YOU want for the missile to explode, unless it hits something before you are able to react. And considering the current road, that the devs are choosing,- the orbital rail strike, should instakill ANY target (I'm looking at you, triple Bile titan spawns). Implement 'punch through' as a game mechanic, where a (example), medium armor penetrating round can run through every Light armor enemy, until it hits a medium armor enemy, it would equal itself out, if done right. (HD1 HAD that mechanic.) Add entrenchment stratagems, like barb-wired mini wall for additional cover in a 'plains type' of maps. P.S. And my personal wish: reduce recoil on Abjucator, since it ain't a DMR, anymore. :P
Agreed but it's not just Alexus. There was another dev who worked on balance and was flaming people in Reddit over an unpopular nerf before Alexus was the lightning rod. The whole balance team needs to go and they need people who understand what this game is in that slot.
Arrowhead has ~ 100 employees but that includes everyone. I can’t find anything specific on the actual dev team. My guess would be 10 primary coders and a 10-20 lower level engine devs for assets, a handful for UI, another for art, modeling, marketing and business. I don’t know how some of the massive studios stay organized that has to be a chore and you know somebody screws up the source control once/ month 😮
Be cautious though..... Crystal Dynamics released a timeline with Avengers too.... same microtransactions out the ass. Space Marines will nickel and dime you bro.
@@OldManRisingat launch probably. This game is definitely going to have expansions for people who want different chapter colors. People are just using Space Marines 2 to spite helldivers 2 because they have an ultimately toxic relationship between live service games
I haven’t played since the commando update and probably won’t be back until 2025 with Space Marine 2 out. Really hope they can fix their shit by early next year. Soft relaunch it on the 1 year anniversary.
I honestly enjoy the new Cookout more than the old smokey Breaker. And people are going to smoke Space Marines the moment they miss one of their targets. HD2 continues to be enjoyable for me and I can be patient for them to tweak.
Idk I kinda need something else to play for awhile. Even if they fix the balance I'm kinda bored of these same missions. I still dive a bit just because I like the combat, but it's stale.
The thing I find funny is they nerf a gun for being "to reliable" then release another gun that is straight up better than the IB ever was in damn near every aspect past raw DPS yet you now get a very powerful stagger.
The podcasts are awesome keep up the good work guys ! I really enjoy the off the cuff banter and looking forward to 'Salt marines ' - will it be a helldivers killer ? I'm hoping they will be different enough to not step on each other's toes .
I do love you guys are on the more positive side of things and against negativity but you also call out things that feel a little too BS when it comes to AH "reasons" 😊😊
Salty! Every time I played Skyrim I said "this time I'm not gonna be a sneaking archer". And 3 of my 4 playthroughs ended up being the sneaking archer. I couldn't stomach the smithing either. Your thoughts on Skyrim totally resonated with me. Dude, the Larva's life is in your hands. Her life is in your hands dude.
Love the Piles impression 😂 Definitely agree with the analogy tho, I fucking love this game, but dam it sometimes feels like AH is going out of their way to get me to stop playing Been playing since launch, and I’ve seen performance absolutely tank over time, constant crashes, glitches that prevent me from finishing games, bs shit like bots shooting through walls…. That all only seem to be getting worse with time Only nerf I personally felt slighted by was eruptor shrapnel loss, but the constant nerfs just feel like salt in the wound when day 1 bugs go untouched In my 400+ hrs, every single game has had at least a handful of bugs / shit just not working ‘how intended’, and every patch only seems to introduce more
The fact that it's the future, whose to say what is and isn't realistic? I mean they have ftl tech.....not a far leap to weaponize something like that or really anything else they might have that we're not aware of.....portal gun plox, the bullets just arrive no travel time lol
I do feel like if the say anything people assume incompetence. And if they don’t say anything people assume malice. They just need to put out good updates with buffs that make more weapons viable for the next 2 months. I think thing will pick up as vacations have probably been staggered since before the summer. Here is hoping…
Almost lauge the shit out of me what a awesome podcast keep up the good work! Btw love HD2 but can't play the game at its current stage will come when AH manage to fix their game without broken other shits (Space marine 2 will out pretty soon so if you guys like that game too would love to hear it on the podcast)
Im wondering if an enemy nerf would actually fix our weapons issue better than adjusting each and every weapon tbh. Now, off to MY 6 week vacation (Crusade) on September 9th. The Emperor Protects.
25:16 realism ? flamethrover flames dont fucking bounce off armor . it sticks to it and melts whatever is inside the damn armor also how the fuck are weapons in futuristic seting weaker than what we have today ?
I'm old enough to know when to break up and cut my losses. So I did. I'm also able to admit I dated exes a second time, despite knowing exes are exes for a reason. We'll see if AH can create something interesting enough to bring me back.
i was surprised too.... i think i may have killed a little over a couple handfuls. I think the way they counted was if 1 mission you ran into say, 3 titans. in a full group of 4, i assume it would count for each player so in the end would technically it would count as 12. Regarding maternity leave, Ive got 4 of my own mini demon spawns, besides my 4th, who was my baby girl, i took off maybe a week, maybe 2 wks, for the first 3 boys, baby girl on the other hand was lucky. she was born a few months before covid lockdown, so got to stay home collect unemployment + stimulus and enjoying being home for the next couple years.
She just keeps abusing me and I keep crawling back! 9:37 Gen X for the win! LMAO How difficult is it to change some numbers? they did it before! Make weapons feel better! I want a liberator to be effective on difficulty 7!
I've killed 7-10 bile titans in 1 mission it's not too hard tbh. When my kids were born 16 years ago I only took a week off The General Brasch clip is just an announcement that's been in the game since day one on the monitor above where you upgrade the ship and unlock stratagems. It's nothing new lol everyone is reading way to into it fr
I'm fine with flames bouncing from armour... but where does it bounce? Why it isn't burning any soft tissue in joint, slowing chargers down? Or tracheae? How the bugs breathe being fully covered with flames? This is why IRL molotovs can cause a lot of problems for armoured vehicles and tanks... another irritating thing with charges is "tripping mechanism" if you shoot leg of charging bug it will accelerate even more and slide to you... even uphill over rocks...
Man I've been saying this exact sentiment since what.... the 2nd patch they released? I've been in unhealthy relationships before lol. It's exactly the same. Promises, followed by hype, followed by disappointments, followed by apologies, promises, more hype, and more disappointment. It's not a healthy game to be a part of. Especially seeing as half the community don't even pay attention to or read the things that are going on behind the scenes, and look at anyone complaining about the situation as just being a toxic idiot who is ruining the game. Like thanks, not only do I have this game giving me unhealthy levels of stress, but I also have people judging me for reacting to it.
They're gonna buff like 40 things but the 2 nerfs are gonna be to the cookout stagger... and the autocannon. Then the game is gonna burn It's kinda funny... I'm not sick of it or hate the game... hell I still defend it mostly. But I'm still taking a break from the game. Haven't played in 2 weeks cause I've been playing skyrim of all games 😂. But yeah I think Dutch will enjoy the game Wild to find out me and Salty are the same age lol. God now I get why I feel comfortable watching this podcast 😂😂😂
If I were a dev under scrutiny, I would bump the ammo of the incinary breaker back to 8 and increase the damage of all primaries. Like how long does it take to change a few numbers of guns no one uses?
If they made one positive change a day it would make a huge difference but instead they are gonna try to do a few updates which will only a few issues and maybe 1 weapon buff. 2 months later we’ll have two weapon buffs and still all the issues and nerfs. I think they are gonna stand firm on the nerfs if they haven’t reverted them by now. They just give the illusion they might revert it.
Back to 6, and yes it is true plenty of guns pretty much only require extra damage, raw damage not more pen or durable damage %, most of them are close to break points that would make them considerably better and in some cases weapons damn well need a huge damage increase as they're outright shit.
They could have trickled out several primary and stratagem buffs to build some momentum but they are apparently still confused about how to save the game. It just isn't complicated and they could probably do it in a day. WTF are they waiting for? Just increase damage and ammo a bit. Fuck. If they release a bunch of nerfs again more people are going to walk. No one is complaining about the rover not overheating. It doesn't matter. No one cares. No one cared that the flamethrower was bugged. No one wants their stupid balance. I killed a LOT of bile titans. They are crawling all over the place on super helldive. But 100? I doubt it. And i doubt there were 50k players ever over that MO. There was only 12k the other night. If I had to play with randoms all the time i would definitely quit. I have fun because of the people i play with. 100% i wouldn't be around playing public games. F that.
If the took all the nerfs back, made the flamethrower go back to looking good, and just buffed everything else to be viable options I'd reinstall the game asap
Thwy could do buffs to weapones in a day. A lot of community gave them ideas. Thay would make game instantly more fun. But they are too inept and put of touch to realize that They made a great game by accident Since then they have fcked up everything
I quit playing a couple of months ago, just kind of over it. The trophy heads thing, I'd like to put my democracy officers head up there. He annoys me 😂
Duck duck go is privately owned and its not google who owns it. Just an fyi and know I’m proving Dutch right. About the chat but I hate google so I use duck duck go and you guys made me have to double check that shit.
Bro, why is Dutch butters devolving into “ in my generation we worked 75 hours a mother fucking day put our legs in a hydraulic press. Unpaid.” Last podcast they were angry the entire time especially Dutch butters. Still love them tho
@@SaltyNerdGamingTell Dutch that past generations would be saying the same thing about his generation. "Oh, when I was your age we lived in tenement conditions, worked 112 hours a day, and the child workers shoved their hands into the still-running looms to unclog them, your generation is weak and lazy."
It’s bizarre how many people quit playing but still suck up all the media about it. Really explains how the toxicity is so much more damaging than any of the balancing they have done though.
Look I know a bunch of folks were on vacation, and probably don't want to go back to work but for f's sake 6 weeks. Back in the day if you took more than two weeks off you had to worry the aholes might replace you.
I fight all difficulties... theyve neutered us . Some how we have actually continued to complete this shit.pay us back arrowhead. Ive also snuffed out some loser chaos divers
I stopped playing 3 weeks ago, poor content and excessive nerfing took all the fun out of it for me, now i check in to collect my medals only. The first descendent gets all my devotion now.
No.... Not even close. HD 2 is that one guy we all know that when we meet we think he might be end up being a great friend. Then a few weeks later we realize this he just lies about his accomplishments and how he can help you accomplish X, Y, Z. HD 2, is that guy you meet and realize, he is a degenerate that does not follow the "guy code" and will try to get with your wife, never chip in for drinks, and will take credit for your work. I have not played HD 2 since the day after Escalation of Trash was released and have ZERO plans to ever play it again. I was tricked, I met that cool new friend who tricked me into believing him about that "hook up to charter boat fishing" (or whatever). Seriously, loved HD 2 until I just had enough. Space Marine 2 is everything HD 2 wishes it was. Already a full road map. New enemy faction coming update 4, customized armor on release, etc....
Gamers when they hear about working conditions and crunch culture in game development: 😢 Gamers when their game devs actually have benevolent work culture: 🤬👺 (Yes their work sucks which deserves criticism but the vacation has nothing to do with it)
That's INCREDIBLY accurate lmao
OMG you're right. But, she stopped going to the gym and it's beginning to show.
22:53 the buff - 1 extra bullet in magazine . oh by the way to compensate this -20 dmg
MOTIVATE. DEDICATE. HYDRATE. SPILL OIL!
Very generous. Thankyou so much. It will be spent as democratically as possible.
We're two weeks into the 60 days and they're still recouping from vacation.
Keep in mind they really only promised to fix the flamethrower and bugs/glitches. They never promised to buff weapons/players, etc. They’re going to “reexamine their approach” for the 10th time in 6 months.
That's fckn NUTS
Man all the recouping deserves some time off!
I wanna work at that studio lol, get the entire summer off, and then 30 more days to "recover" 😂
@hellfirestudios2.0 don't forget YOU GET 480 days off for your wife having a baby
You guys make the relationship with Helldivers 2 sound like the relationship we all had with World of Warcraft. Love when playing, hate when not.
The love, hate relationship is sooo accurate 😂😂😂
So accurate…sadly
Have you ever noticed the Berzerkers have skulls and spikes behind their heads on their back but they dont have hands. So that means other bots have to help the berzerker decorate itself with skulls and spikes.
Imagine wiping your ass with a chainsaw... no wonder their berserk !
Maby there where just born that way..
They all have help from other’s because they are built in factories lol 😂 robots
Hiring more people wouldn't even be helpful. They're using a discontinued game engine that new devs would have to learn its language from scratch.
I'm actually really bugged by the devs stance on "realism".. they said "making your magazine refill when you hit a resupply is "unrealistic"; whilst we can shoot a plant and fly across the map, break all our limbs (or not lol), get up, hit a stim, then start sprinting. I cant think of a situation where 'you' (in a "realistic" scenario) would pick up ammo/supplies then not also have reloaded. (sure its "magic" for the sake of "fun") lets not forget its a game. I am sick and tired of the devs using "realism" as any kind of metric in the studio. They need to get rid of that mentality months ago. "Come get your Eagle Sweat here" ffs
I like when a robot on stilts has unlimited rockets to shoot at you.
I want Arrowhead to go bankrupt and employees be tainted by their dismal work, making further work in industry hard to find. The Stans gaslight HD 2, no game can ever fail, they just become more and more jaded. It is how Ubi Soft, Blizzard, and EA came into being. Blind devotion to their IP with no consequence for failing. Arrowhead will be around in 15 years making some game and arrogantly telling their players they are stupid and don't understand how a game works and to "git gud newb".
If it was realistic then the auto cannon would explode everything it hit and the energy cannon would melt holes through everything. Just sayin.
Ayyyy, appreciate the shoutout for my comment on the last video!
Keep it salty boys. ❤
@@timbagoo thanks Tim! 👍🏻 appreciate you checking out the show
I think they just need to go nuts, de-nerf everything, give vehicles and provide 3rd enemy. Let this thing loose!
You can’t just de-nerf everything. That’s not how coding a video game works
They already released the 3rd faction, the technical bugs
@sfjp1 so true it feels like they’ve made so little in so much time! We need more fun urgently and if they aren’t gonna de nerf everything then we need CONTENT stat!
@@erikcoolblue It was leaked months ago they were developing the Illuminate and working on squad vehicles for multiple players. Months ago. Idk what the fuck they been doing all this time to justify not giving the players fun things and instead nerfing everything.
Yeah, the numbers don't add up for the Bile Titan kills lol. The peaks have only been a bit over 20k players on Steam recently, so probably 30k players peak total since PS5 usually has half as many HD2 players. The low points have been down as far as 8k. I think Joel put his finger on the scale or something. They probably planned the MO back when they were expecting a helluva lot more players coming back for the EoF update.
I'm seeing 40,000 to 50,000 on each night, Steam don't count PS5 players
@@Grambo-qp4pp No, they've said publicly about 70% of the sales are PC.
Doubt they're doing anything like that for BT kills... and also this order is clearly to give them more info on what is causing BT's to straight up take zero damage sometimes in the head.
20k-ish peaks? Pfffft during that order it was regularly a good bit more than that. And yes it's possible to kill that many BT - playing 8+ you're killing minimum one, usually more for each breach and they're all over the map and at objectives. Not unusual to down a couple of dozen of them even if you're not going out of your way to kill em all.
@@Grambo-qp4pp The game does. All you have to do is look at total Helldivers online on the map then subtract the Steam number to see how many PS5 players there are and it is usually around 50% of the number of pc players.
Yes. @16mins 15 seconds, Dutch hit on the nail about the relationship with hell divers 2.
I want/demand a 'Field medic' Warbond, with a support type secondary (pistol) and a 'welfare distributor' drone/backpack, that possibly uses your stims as ammo! I want to see the weapons that suck and are useless,- to be buffed by 1.5 and the one's that are 'reliable', to be buffed by 1.1-2. I want to be able to shoot at the enemies, when we descend after jumping with a jetpack, like a fucking shock trooper. I want for the airburst/ anti-air rocket launcher to have a 'double click mechanic', where the first click, is when you launch the missile, then the second click is when YOU want for the missile to explode, unless it hits something before you are able to react. And considering the current road, that the devs are choosing,- the orbital rail strike, should instakill ANY target (I'm looking at you, triple Bile titan spawns). Implement 'punch through' as a game mechanic, where a (example), medium armor penetrating round can run through every Light armor enemy, until it hits a medium armor enemy, it would equal itself out, if done right. (HD1 HAD that mechanic.) Add entrenchment stratagems, like barb-wired mini wall for additional cover in a 'plains type' of maps.
P.S. And my personal wish: reduce recoil on Abjucator, since it ain't a DMR, anymore. :P
They don't need to hire more people. They just need to fire Alexus.
Agreed but it's not just Alexus. There was another dev who worked on balance and was flaming people in Reddit over an unpopular nerf before Alexus was the lightning rod.
The whole balance team needs to go and they need people who understand what this game is in that slot.
@@spikem5950 Evilbosse.
I swear i say that about For Honor every time they drop a new hero😂
Arrowhead has ~ 100 employees but that includes everyone. I can’t find anything specific on the actual dev team. My guess would be 10 primary coders and a 10-20 lower level engine devs for assets, a handful for UI, another for art, modeling, marketing and business. I don’t know how some of the massive studios stay organized that has to be a chore and you know somebody screws up the source control once/ month 😮
I quit playing this week until a significant enough update comes out until then, I'm just waiting for space Marine 2
Be cautious though..... Crystal Dynamics released a timeline with Avengers too.... same microtransactions out the ass. Space Marines will nickel and dime you bro.
We keep hearing this and we will call out bullshit where we see it. Don’t worry about that. Thanks for the heads up
Warhammer products are hella expensive. That company is predatory. They are definitely going to bend people over the barrel for every penny.
They said there wouldn't be ANY in SM2 not to many, won't be ANY
@@OldManRisingat launch probably. This game is definitely going to have expansions for people who want different chapter colors. People are just using Space Marines 2 to spite helldivers 2 because they have an ultimately toxic relationship between live service games
@noblegalifreyan4551 I honestly wouldn't know, not an authority on it, just what I seen in a SM2 video today
For me these 60 days are make or break for this game.
Dutch summed it up in the first 5 seconds
I haven’t played since the commando update and probably won’t be back until 2025 with Space Marine 2 out. Really hope they can fix their shit by early next year. Soft relaunch it on the 1 year anniversary.
That’s not a bad plan. I agree
We won’t the major orderrrrrrr!
I honestly enjoy the new Cookout more than the old smokey Breaker.
And people are going to smoke Space Marines the moment they miss one of their targets. HD2 continues to be enjoyable for me and I can be patient for them to tweak.
Agreed re Cookout. The stagger is money.
Idk I kinda need something else to play for awhile. Even if they fix the balance I'm kinda bored of these same missions. I still dive a bit just because I like the combat, but it's stale.
@@rhetro777 I’ve been enjoying Wukong and Dicso Elysium is $10 on sale now if you game on PC. Both are good for a break 👍
You are right, Cookout is great. Question is will they nerf it in 2 months to get players to play with the next new weapon?
The thing I find funny is they nerf a gun for being "to reliable" then release another gun that is straight up better than the IB ever was in damn near every aspect past raw DPS yet you now get a very powerful stagger.
Hey Dutch, mini golf with friends gets crazy with their course designs. Trust me it takes alot of skill to get the ball home.
Im maxed on everything except ship modules
I get black pilled, then i play with our crew and have fun and lol despite the devs and being launched to orbit for no reason!!!!
one of us!
The podcasts are awesome keep up the good work guys ! I really enjoy the off the cuff banter and looking forward to 'Salt marines ' - will it be a helldivers killer ? I'm hoping they will be different enough to not step on each other's toes .
We shall see! Thanks for the comment
I’m really only playing HD2 atm cause that’s what my friends are on. But we’re all ready to jump on Space Marines 2 next week!
Everyone figured out that the blitzer is really good for bugs and now I’m scared for my old friend lol
Great podcast guys ! Good episode
Thanks!
Loved this podcast totally unhinged. More of this would be amazing!
More to come!
I do love you guys are on the more positive side of things and against negativity but you also call out things that feel a little too BS when it comes to AH "reasons" 😊😊
We just share what we think. Two guys chatting about games.
If your tired from VACATION LEAVE THE FCKN Balance alone while your GONE.....
Salty! Every time I played Skyrim I said "this time I'm not gonna be a sneaking archer". And 3 of my 4 playthroughs ended up being the sneaking archer. I couldn't stomach the smithing either. Your thoughts on Skyrim totally resonated with me.
Dude, the Larva's life is in your hands. Her life is in your hands dude.
All get you a toe by 3oclock this afternoon….with nail polish.
@@SaltyNerdGaming the man knows his Lebowski. Respect.
Did they Nurf my throwing arm ?
Love the Piles impression 😂
Definitely agree with the analogy tho, I fucking love this game, but dam it sometimes feels like AH is going out of their way to get me to stop playing
Been playing since launch, and I’ve seen performance absolutely tank over time, constant crashes, glitches that prevent me from finishing games, bs shit like bots shooting through walls…. That all only seem to be getting worse with time
Only nerf I personally felt slighted by was eruptor shrapnel loss, but the constant nerfs just feel like salt in the wound when day 1 bugs go untouched
In my 400+ hrs, every single game has had at least a handful of bugs / shit just not working ‘how intended’, and every patch only seems to introduce more
The fact that it's the future, whose to say what is and isn't realistic? I mean they have ftl tech.....not a far leap to weaponize something like that or really anything else they might have that we're not aware of.....portal gun plox, the bullets just arrive no travel time lol
I do feel like if the say anything people assume incompetence. And if they don’t say anything people assume malice. They just need to put out good updates with buffs that make more weapons viable for the next 2 months. I think thing will pick up as vacations have probably been staggered since before the summer. Here is hoping…
I love you guys ! I am 60 years old and love this game , i suck like dutch ,BUT not as bad! I would love to play with you , keep up the awesome work!!
hey, woa woa. I am the best at whatever it is do..
It would make sense since it hasn't aged well.
2 min ago is crazy
That Space Marine 2 roadmap is software development done right. I typically don’t preorder but I think imma have to now.
Almost lauge the shit out of me what a awesome podcast keep up the good work!
Btw love HD2 but can't play the game at its current stage will come when AH manage to fix their game without broken other shits
(Space marine 2 will out pretty soon so if you guys like that game too would love to hear it on the podcast)
we will be talking about it and playing it on our live streams.
Give us the bastion tank right now and everyone would love it and come back. Having 4 tanks on the field at the same time that crush everything!
Im wondering if an enemy nerf would actually fix our weapons issue better than adjusting each and every weapon tbh. Now, off to MY 6 week vacation (Crusade) on September 9th.
The Emperor Protects.
25:16 realism ? flamethrover flames dont fucking bounce off armor . it sticks to it and melts whatever is inside the damn armor
also how the fuck are weapons in futuristic seting weaker than what we have today ?
I'm maxed out, but I show up every night to ice Alpha Commanders...
🌎FOR SUPER EARTH🌎
I'm old enough to know when to break up and cut my losses. So I did.
I'm also able to admit I dated exes a second time, despite knowing exes are exes for a reason.
We'll see if AH can create something interesting enough to bring me back.
I would love to hear more NORSEMEN voicecovers :D really hilarious
Going to go watch some Norsemen right now.
@@SaltyNerdGaming i think i need to give it another go :D
i was surprised too.... i think i may have killed a little over a couple handfuls. I think the way they counted was if 1 mission you ran into say, 3 titans. in a full group of 4, i assume it would count for each player so in the end would technically it would count as 12. Regarding maternity leave, Ive got 4 of my own mini demon spawns, besides my 4th, who was my baby girl, i took off maybe a week, maybe 2 wks, for the first 3 boys, baby girl on the other hand was lucky. she was born a few months before covid lockdown, so got to stay home collect unemployment + stimulus and enjoying being home for the next couple years.
Try one of the Earth defense Force games. I feel like it's just different and wacky enough for you guys to try
She just keeps abusing me and I keep crawling back!
9:37 Gen X for the win! LMAO
How difficult is it to change some numbers? they did it before! Make weapons feel better!
I want a liberator to be effective on difficulty 7!
Then use one.
Dutch, you rock. Finally another gamer my age who doesn't live in moms basement.
basements kind of rule though.
I've killed 7-10 bile titans in 1 mission it's not too hard tbh.
When my kids were born 16 years ago I only took a week off
The General Brasch clip is just an announcement that's been in the game since day one on the monitor above where you upgrade the ship and unlock stratagems. It's nothing new lol everyone is reading way to into it fr
I think Saber has 2600+ employees. Crazy compared to Arrowhead which is apparently ten guys sharing a trenchcoat in sweden. Bjork Bjork Bjork
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So after next week is the podcast gonna be known as the Salt Marines podcast??
Our Friday show will be called “Weekend Respawn” and it will focus on new games we are playing. Space Marines 2 will be one of many we discuss.
More devs, more vacation, more "balance", more realism, more tired 😩
FIIXXXXX TJE CRASHING!!! 😭😭😭
i already googled it
arrowhead has 120 employees... i dunno if that really means double A quality...
I'm fine with flames bouncing from armour... but where does it bounce? Why it isn't burning any soft tissue in joint, slowing chargers down? Or tracheae? How the bugs breathe being fully covered with flames? This is why IRL molotovs can cause a lot of problems for armoured vehicles and tanks... another irritating thing with charges is "tripping mechanism" if you shoot leg of charging bug it will accelerate even more and slide to you... even uphill over rocks...
Exactly
Man I've been saying this exact sentiment since what.... the 2nd patch they released? I've been in unhealthy relationships before lol. It's exactly the same. Promises, followed by hype, followed by disappointments, followed by apologies, promises, more hype, and more disappointment.
It's not a healthy game to be a part of. Especially seeing as half the community don't even pay attention to or read the things that are going on behind the scenes, and look at anyone complaining about the situation as just being a toxic idiot who is ruining the game. Like thanks, not only do I have this game giving me unhealthy levels of stress, but I also have people judging me for reacting to it.
Accurate.
They're gonna buff like 40 things but the 2 nerfs are gonna be to the cookout stagger... and the autocannon. Then the game is gonna burn
It's kinda funny... I'm not sick of it or hate the game... hell I still defend it mostly. But I'm still taking a break from the game. Haven't played in 2 weeks cause I've been playing skyrim of all games 😂. But yeah I think Dutch will enjoy the game
Wild to find out me and Salty are the same age lol. God now I get why I feel comfortable watching this podcast 😂😂😂
I feel like they will never touch the autocannon as long as Pilestedt is there.
If I were a dev under scrutiny, I would bump the ammo of the incinary breaker back to 8 and increase the damage of all primaries. Like how long does it take to change a few numbers of guns no one uses?
If they made one positive change a day it would make a huge difference but instead they are gonna try to do a few updates which will only a few issues and maybe 1 weapon buff. 2 months later we’ll have two weapon buffs and still all the issues and nerfs. I think they are gonna stand firm on the nerfs if they haven’t reverted them by now. They just give the illusion they might revert it.
Back to 6, and yes it is true plenty of guns pretty much only require extra damage, raw damage not more pen or durable damage %, most of them are close to break points that would make them considerably better and in some cases weapons damn well need a huge damage increase as they're outright shit.
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You got here so early TH-cam hasn’t finished processing lol.
They could have trickled out several primary and stratagem buffs to build some momentum but they are apparently still confused about how to save the game. It just isn't complicated and they could probably do it in a day. WTF are they waiting for? Just increase damage and ammo a bit. Fuck. If they release a bunch of nerfs again more people are going to walk. No one is complaining about the rover not overheating. It doesn't matter. No one cares. No one cared that the flamethrower was bugged. No one wants their stupid balance.
I killed a LOT of bile titans. They are crawling all over the place on super helldive. But 100? I doubt it. And i doubt there were 50k players ever over that MO. There was only 12k the other night.
If I had to play with randoms all the time i would definitely quit. I have fun because of the people i play with. 100% i wouldn't be around playing public games. F that.
Dutch Butters, will mute me when he plays Skyrim, because I'll be telling him he has the situtational awareness of a brick lol
its true..
If the took all the nerfs back, made the flamethrower go back to looking good, and just buffed everything else to be viable options I'd reinstall the game asap
Thwy could do buffs to weapones in a day. A lot of community gave them ideas. Thay would make game instantly more fun. But they are too inept and put of touch to realize that
They made a great game by accident
Since then they have fcked up everything
These devs are working on everything suggested its crazy, almost like they just dont care and handwave the masses
Sooo accurate
I quit playing a couple of months ago, just kind of over it.
The trophy heads thing, I'd like to put my democracy officers head up there. He annoys me 😂
Duck duck go is privately owned and its not google who owns it. Just an fyi and know I’m proving Dutch right. About the chat but I hate google so I use duck duck go and you guys made me have to double check that shit.
They should let us know how much in % we've contributed as single person to the major order
That would be a cool feature
I havnt killed 1 bile titan since Escalatiob. Ty for killing them for me.
Bro, why is Dutch butters devolving into “ in my generation we worked 75 hours a mother fucking day put our legs in a hydraulic press. Unpaid.” Last podcast they were angry the entire time especially Dutch butters. Still love them tho
@@zerohour9861 Dutch is always angry.
@@SaltyNerdGamingTell Dutch that past generations would be saying the same thing about his generation. "Oh, when I was your age we lived in tenement conditions, worked 112 hours a day, and the child workers shoved their hands into the still-running looms to unclog them, your generation is weak and lazy."
I only evolve.
Arrowhead definitely fluffed the numbers for the MO
Dad gamers whoooah!
I’ve deleted the game and will not replay until the devs prove that they are listening, but I can’t stop watching videos about the damn game lol
It’s bizarre how many people quit playing but still suck up all the media about it. Really explains how the toxicity is so much more damaging than any of the balancing they have done though.
Helldivers maybe be crazy, but shes beautiful..
So hot.
I think dureing the dutch skyrim playthrough he should have a buffer between him and the chat.
@@user-hp1jw9tg3l I agree -salty
Look I know a bunch of folks were on vacation, and probably don't want to go back to work but for f's sake 6 weeks. Back in the day if you took more than two weeks off you had to worry the aholes might replace you.
Dude looks like Will Wheaton and wears a Star Trek shirt? … 🤯 too meta 4 me.
Never thought I'd hear a game being compared to hate @#$&ING but here we are... Couldn't agree more 😂
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Come back to wow Dutch butters- war within is Amazing
i dont think i have the time required to do it properly any longer with everything else going on. But thanks. I hope you are enjoying it.
Helldivers is like a crazy GF, and her parents are the worst. Always nerfing things and ruining our fun. In laws are the worst sometimes.
This is accurate, the relationship is bad but the sex is great hahahaha
ow! ow! ow! ow! ow! ow!....whens our turn??
40:28 You guys are so dumb. I love it.
truer things have not been spoken
I fight all difficulties... theyve neutered us . Some how we have actually continued to complete this shit.pay us back arrowhead. Ive also snuffed out some loser chaos divers
I stopped playing 3 weeks ago, poor content and excessive nerfing took all the fun out of it for me, now i check in to collect my medals only. The first descendent gets all my devotion now.
lol what else could AH nerf? WTF there's nothing out there that's insane
No.... Not even close. HD 2 is that one guy we all know that when we meet we think he might be end up being a great friend. Then a few weeks later we realize this he just lies about his accomplishments and how he can help you accomplish X, Y, Z. HD 2, is that guy you meet and realize, he is a degenerate that does not follow the "guy code" and will try to get with your wife, never chip in for drinks, and will take credit for your work. I have not played HD 2 since the day after Escalation of Trash was released and have ZERO plans to ever play it again. I was tricked, I met that cool new friend who tricked me into believing him about that "hook up to charter boat fishing" (or whatever). Seriously, loved HD 2 until I just had enough.
Space Marine 2 is everything HD 2 wishes it was. Already a full road map. New enemy faction coming update 4, customized armor on release, etc....
Gamers when they hear about working conditions and crunch culture in game development: 😢
Gamers when their game devs actually have benevolent work culture: 🤬👺
(Yes their work sucks which deserves criticism but the vacation has nothing to do with it)
You wanna see a grind game look at elite dangerous......ugh geeze.
I have a hard time believing AH can commit to a roadmap. That being said they made a game your playing the shit out of.
There should be ZERO NERFS. not less nerfs than buffs
Me sitting here after having 8 weeks paternity leave 🌝
@@BridgyP don’t listen to old man Dutch. Take that time Family>Work - salty
@@SaltyNerdGaming I'm not easily offended, he's just from a different generation. Every dad his age did the same