I seriously question those fans keeping this cool for any extended amount of time. i would also love to see one of these console laptops run on battery's.
Well, it can sit in your lap. Also, my laptop that doesn't run on battery anymore, isn't considered a portable desktop since it's battery doesn't work. It's still called a laptop. I just have to keep it plugged in, haha
I would argue that any laptop intended for gaming pretty much needs to be plugged-in to actually game (otherwise you often get like, 30-45minutes). So in that sense this is spot-on to the functionality of a 'gaming laptop'. It's also neat that this has the power supply built into the chasis instead of as an external brick.
Still a laptop ;) Also, agreed with TheTron08, gaming on a laptop, in my experience, almost requires to be plugged in. They don't last long enough otherwise
JonasLue With today's tech that would be feasible, but would require some extra fine tuning. That's not easy, but as a long term project? I think it's doable.
The only thing that bothered me is that you used a 360 logo instead of the one logo but otherwise that's pretty sweet and I want to be able to do this.
Joe Stacks actually uses a laptop (notebook, in terms of speed) grade CPU (actually an APU) if you look at it in terms of clockspeed, if I recall correctly, it uses a 1.8ghz (maybe 2) AMD Jaguar 8-core APU, with something like a HD7770 for a GPU.
You are correct. The bigger fan was probably chosen for the Xbox One S design because having a single bigger fan with low RPMs to maintain airflow on the whole case makes much less noise than several smaller ones going at much higher RPMs constantly. Something the PS4 gets often criticized for by people who find the constant audible whir of the fans annoying. In Ben's design I think that airflow on the case overall is probably not good enough for gaming not because the fans are too small (As you rightly point out they are going at much higher RPM), its because the components are laid out differently and further appart than the original design and the space is rather cramped too. The PSU might not be getting good enough airflow or its likely just getting hot air from the rest of the components.
Please take your time on more future builds. A lot of the newer stuff seems rushed. A long term project every month or so would be great. I don't know about re-visiting specific builds, but if you could just rotation all of them through a schedule. Just a thought. I know you need to release regularly, but there should always be long term builds, in my opinion.
A wire tracer would be a handy device. Especially if you made it so you could plug the signal generator into a wall outlet, screw it in a light socket or attach a set of jumper cables. It would probably be a good idea if it could survive being attached to a live circuit too.
Ben and Crew, one thing you could do to make a little money on the side is sell plans with the files for the 3d printed parts and the laser parts. It is much easier than making kits and you could sell them fairly inexpensively considering that the brunt of the cost of producing the machine is taken care of by the consumer. This is similar to how the woodworking channels on youtube make money.
I think the exposed cables for the LCD are a major flaw. That is the first thing that will go in this build. You could've wired them through the hinges.
Just because the 360 is old now doesn't mean it's gotten smaller over time. If he made annother 360 portable now, it would be probably the same size as his last one. :/
Yeah, he'd have to completely reverse engineer a 360, make a mobo and buy and route every single modern equivalent component of what's in the original 360 to make a whole new system essentially. Hard work.
Dam that laptop looks really good. If only Microsoft and Sony would make a retail version of this instead of crapping out the ps4 pro and expecting people to buy it
You guys are the best. I really enjoy this channel and it gives me something to look forward to every week. I don't know a lot about electronics but I always learn something new from each video. Thank you and keep up the good work!
I didn't mean APU on it ;) But PSU will overheat and fry PCB on MB. It overheats like crazy already playing music/movies (the guy in vid said it goes over 100 degrees F). With games that would go even higher as more power would be needed to fuel games. Cool idea, but unusable for gaming.
any computer whether it be a pc, mac, xbox or ps should not be going any higher than 90* CELSIUS (apu mainly), 100* fahrenheit should be just fine for the psu itself as shown in the video
Thomas Myers remember PSU was not even under load when it hit that temp. That's what hit me first. Fans came to my mind afterwards. 2 options console would have when overheating: thermal throttle or emergency shut down. APU would not fry that easily that's for sure.
100 F is ~37 C, numbnuts. That's like 4 degrees above idle temperature. The machine's thermals are fine. In the future, please refrain from commenting on things you know nothing about.
I think it would have been a good idea to throw a thin keyboard on top. And seems how the Xbox one S has Bluetooth it wouldn't even need to be tethered to the motherboard. It would be very handy anytime you want to message or search for something. I think the side lines ended up looking good. To make it more fancy, the lid symbol should be reworked so it glows with LED's, as that symbol looks like the old 360 version.
It is great and anyone would love to have one, but it would be better with a battery. I mean the main purpose of a laptop is to be portable. But it is truly awesome and you made it look super easy. Great job!
I dont know if ya'll check the comments on older videos but I've had an idea that would be more of a long term thing. I've been wanting to make a pc desk for a few years, but also be able to play console games as most of my friends have Xbox or Playstation. I know that either one of those systems don't take up much room by themselves, and are only about as large as a large pc case, but i think it would be cool to have the pc desk with an Xbox and, or a PlayStation built inside of it as well. Like a dual monitor set-up for the Pc and a 40 or 50 inch T.V. for the console(s)
Very cool design, the one thing that bugged me though was how you used the 360 logo instead of the flat-colored One logo, but that's such a minor detail it probably doesn't matter much. Lol.
Sick build, very innovative!!! if you put the relief cut at the corners on the back side you would accomplish what your after with a better appearance..
Doesn't need a benchmark, he didn't just throw in some random shit and go "yeah that'll do". It's all calculated before putting it all together, and with the APU heat censor and all that, the fans would have to work a bit harder but with the heatsink and intake/exhaust, it'd add up to roughly the same temperature. AND like he said, APU's are a lot less heat intensive than you'd expect, did you even watch the video??
It's a great design, but would be cool if it had a built in battery like some game cases. I love the finished product. Great for people who travel a lot and dont want to lug around an xbox and cables to play at a hotel. Even could be played at an airport dock station while you wait. If i this option over just sticking my xbox in a portable case. i would get this
Since the Xbox One supports mouse and keyboard, I was really hoping that you would've placed a nice low profile keyboard into the design. Would of made surfing the web super easy with it's built in Edge web browser. Not to mention sending text messages would be a snap as well.
Ben messed up by getting rid of the front USB port and Microsoft messed up by not putting more of them on the front. Also a keyboard with dual tracking pads would have been nice.
I was shaking my head when at about 8:20. Right after he got done talking about current carrying capacity of the wires. He said uh oh copper to aluminum wires, eh shouldn't be a problem. Thankfully it probably is nickel plated copper wire just bare aluminum to copper connections equal bad things. Just Google house fires caused by incorrect aluminum wiring.
the 70s had these steros with mood lites that changed colors when music was played do tht to the studio n use colored led`s.....maybe inbed them into the walls or cenor lites at floor level so if u have kids u wont tripp on hot wheels or toys...
wait a minute, the Xbox One Blu Ray drive is a stardard SATA off the shelf? I'll keep that in mind when my buddy shows up with a broken day 1 unit. But then again, when consoles fail it's usually the disk drive, so no free BD drives for me...
No battery and no integrated controller on this thing, kind of a shame. I mean you look at it and it's proportions are really weird, it's very wide, if you just added a big ass battery to it you could produce something with actual laptop proportions, that would make the bezel on the screen way smaller than the literal 90s 486 laptop antique frame you've got going on there right now.
Could you make a "Wii U-DS-Laptop"? I.e., do what you did with this XBOX ONE S laptop but for a Wii U but also put the touchscreen controller inside the laptop so it essentially looks and functions like an oversized DS?
That’s what I’m looking for as well. Been searching for months and can’t find anything. I literally want to extend all the components. If you ever find out how to and if you remember, come back here and leave me a reply and I’ll be sure to do the same for you if I find something
just wondering, couldn't the power supply have its own case or something to have it like a laptop charger? that way you could have gained a little more space to make it slimmer.
omg, when the windows sound played at the beginning for a device connected, i freaked out for a sec, i thought my keyboard had been disconnected without me knowing and had just reconnected hahahah
Ben!! love the show, had an idea for an episode. kinda different but how about going over how you use tools like onenote, your surface, and anything else you use to organize your ideas and projects?? would really be useful info!
an AIO with a handle would be cooler. next you should 3D print a new neSWITCH case and add a bigger 1080 amoled screen and a much bigger battery. maybe relock the cpu back up
"What else would you have liked to see us do to this Xbon One S laptop?"
Oh, I don't know. How about play a game on it maybe?!
"What more would you want us to do?' Test games on the modded games console.
I seriously question those fans keeping this cool for any extended amount of time. i would also love to see one of these console laptops run on battery's.
BlueFoxTV they draw to much current
Grey John then that means it's not a true laptop it's more of a portable desktop then
Well, it can sit in your lap. Also, my laptop that doesn't run on battery anymore, isn't considered a portable desktop since it's battery doesn't work. It's still called a laptop. I just have to keep it plugged in, haha
I would argue that any laptop intended for gaming pretty much needs to be plugged-in to actually game (otherwise you often get like, 30-45minutes). So in that sense this is spot-on to the functionality of a 'gaming laptop'. It's also neat that this has the power supply built into the chasis instead of as an external brick.
Still a laptop ;)
Also, agreed with TheTron08, gaming on a laptop, in my experience, almost requires to be plugged in. They don't last long enough otherwise
2:05 "It's difficult finding LCS panels under 19" these days" ...
*behind me a stack of 15.6 and some 17" LCDs just waiting to be used...*
RLY?!
The Mechanical TV!!! That needs a revisit...
Who would like to see that finished?
1blisslife And then make it portable xD
But seriously, would be cool to see more about it/a similar subject
JonasLue With today's tech that would be feasible, but would require some extra fine tuning. That's not easy, but as a long term project? I think it's doable.
+The Ben Heck Show PLEASE REVISIT IT
The only thing that bothered me is that you used a 360 logo instead of the one logo but otherwise that's pretty sweet and I want to be able to do this.
Chad Blitzer ikr
emojis make me want to kill myself
I am all pc master race but you still need to shut your fuck
RotiiK _ Douche
2:56 i thought my screen was damaged...nobody else is gonna mention the lines on the video?
Maybe it was just a design? Don’t know why they did that though.
And i thought my GPU was dying.
me too
ant bro no
I know right? I recently undervolted my laptop and was like "Oh no, here we go"
1:23 I got confuzed thinking windows was hiding a notification
why didn't he test any games lol
he has no games he said that already
***** still could've downloaded one.
BathNApe
wh bother spending money on a game he wont play ?
***** I didn't say to spend money.
BathNApe
does it matter ? the console works ,dont need to test a agme
Was actually expecting u to play games on it
I think adding a battery to it so it could be portable would be an awesome update for this. Love your work
"well that's all the time we have for today ..." he just took for months to work on this lol!
those mini fans aint gonna do shit
the xbox isn't a laptop.
Joe Stacks actually uses a laptop (notebook, in terms of speed) grade CPU (actually an APU) if you look at it in terms of clockspeed, if I recall correctly, it uses a 1.8ghz (maybe 2) AMD Jaguar 8-core APU, with something like a HD7770 for a GPU.
he showed the temps in the video and ironically enough the part where the big fan was originally was cooler than the power supply and mobo
the fans are about equivalent since the big fan spun really slow thats about as easy as I can put it
You are correct. The bigger fan was probably chosen for the Xbox One S design because having a single bigger fan with low RPMs to maintain airflow on the whole case makes much less noise than several smaller ones going at much higher RPMs constantly. Something the PS4 gets often criticized for by people who find the constant audible whir of the fans annoying.
In Ben's design I think that airflow on the case overall is probably not good enough for gaming not because the fans are too small (As you rightly point out they are going at much higher RPM), its because the components are laid out differently and further appart than the original design and the space is rather cramped too. The PSU might not be getting good enough airflow or its likely just getting hot air from the rest of the components.
It is nearly impossible trying to find any of these beautiful works of art for sell ANYWHERE.
Please take your time on more future builds. A lot of the newer stuff seems rushed. A long term project every month or so would be great. I don't know about re-visiting specific builds, but if you could just rotation all of them through a schedule. Just a thought. I know you need to release regularly, but there should always be long term builds, in my opinion.
A wire tracer would be a handy device. Especially if you made it so you could plug the signal generator into a wall outlet, screw it in a light socket or attach a set of jumper cables. It would probably be a good idea if it could survive being attached to a live circuit too.
This show is so lit! For someone that drools over building, creating, and modifying your own tech its goals!
Ben and Crew, one thing you could do to make a little money on the side is sell plans with the files for the 3d printed parts and the laser parts. It is much easier than making kits and you could sell them fairly inexpensively considering that the brunt of the cost of producing the machine is taken care of by the consumer. This is similar to how the woodworking channels on youtube make money.
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!
I think the exposed cables for the LCD are a major flaw. That is the first thing that will go in this build. You could've wired them through the hinges.
When Finn and Poe first get inside the TIE, you can see Poe shrug off his jacket. Just uh, you know, thought I'd point that out...
If you are making a laptop out of it, why not add a keyboard? (Yes, the Xbox One supports a keyboard.)
and why not add a battery in there to make it portable xd
Haven’t seen this channel in years. Remember why I was addicted at one point.
im surprised how elegant it looks.... almost like an official product... well done!
what a refreshing commentsection btw awesome project, revisit the 360 and include a battery and try to make it smaller
Just because the 360 is old now doesn't mean it's gotten smaller over time.
If he made annother 360 portable now, it would be probably the same size as his last one. :/
Yeah, he'd have to completely reverse engineer a 360, make a mobo and buy and route every single modern equivalent component of what's in the original 360 to make a whole new system essentially. Hard work.
Savage Cat The last 360 revisions use less than 140W. It may be possible.
If you manage to make the DVD player work as an external unit you save space and weight, since you do not always use the DVDs.
Dam that laptop looks really good. If only Microsoft and Sony would make a retail version of this instead of crapping out the ps4 pro and expecting people to buy it
You guys are the best. I really enjoy this channel and it gives me something to look forward to every week. I don't know a lot about electronics but I always learn something new from each video. Thank you and keep up the good work!
A 1TB solid state drive is also great for an Xbox One option I came up with.
Play any game and it will fry in an instant...
I didn't mean APU on it ;)
But PSU will overheat and fry PCB on MB. It overheats like crazy already playing music/movies (the guy in vid said it goes over 100 degrees F). With games that would go even higher as more power would be needed to fuel games.
Cool idea, but unusable for gaming.
any computer whether it be a pc, mac, xbox or ps should not be going any higher than 90* CELSIUS (apu mainly), 100* fahrenheit should be just fine for the psu itself as shown in the video
Thomas Myers remember PSU was not even under load when it hit that temp. That's what hit me first. Fans came to my mind afterwards. 2 options console would have when overheating: thermal throttle or emergency shut down.
APU would not fry that easily that's for sure.
Maybe he could have just added a water cooling.
100 F is ~37 C, numbnuts. That's like 4 degrees above idle temperature. The machine's thermals are fine. In the future, please refrain from commenting on things you know nothing about.
A key board would have been a good idea to add. Not sure how hard it would have been. But definetly cool.
I think it would have been a good idea to throw a thin keyboard on top. And seems how the Xbox one S has Bluetooth it wouldn't even need to be tethered to the motherboard. It would be very handy anytime you want to message or search for something. I think the side lines ended up looking good. To make it more fancy, the lid symbol should be reworked so it glows with LED's, as that symbol looks like the old 360 version.
It is great and anyone would love to have one, but it would be better with a battery. I mean the main purpose of a laptop is to be portable. But it is truly awesome and you made it look super easy. Great job!
I dont know if ya'll check the comments on older videos but I've had an idea that would be more of a long term thing. I've been wanting to make a pc desk for a few years, but also be able to play console games as most of my friends have Xbox or Playstation. I know that either one of those systems don't take up much room by themselves, and are only about as large as a large pc case, but i think it would be cool to have the pc desk with an Xbox and, or a PlayStation built inside of it as well. Like a dual monitor set-up for the Pc and a 40 or 50 inch T.V. for the console(s)
I hope, when the Switch comes out, you do a half hour highly detailed video on turning it into a portable console.
Very cool design, the one thing that bugged me though was how you used the 360 logo instead of the flat-colored One logo, but that's such a minor detail it probably doesn't matter much. Lol.
I do like the longer build cycle. Would be nice to see more of these mixed in to the regular schedule.
The Ben Heck Show, let's see you fire up a game in that thing!
now all you have to do is talk to Phil Spencer at Xbox to get it into production this was a great build well done guys.
This girl looks like she takes huge bong hits..
I would have added mesh on those top vents to keep dust and other foreign debris out.
If only the cable from the motherboard to the screen could have been hidden.
Love to see the xbox actually running some games
Why even put in the (original) HDD and the disc drive? Could've saved a ton of space with those out
Use flash memory?
I don't know about these things but it's probably possible to fool the system into thinking it has a disc drive and the original HDD
Jobaa87 The price of flash or SSD's to dump discs and keep the OS+Game data is enormous, and they're also 2.5" so no difference in size
yeah and without a disc drive the system wouldve been gimped.
+JonasLue
Well I was mostly talking about the disc drive which is massive and not needed at all
Jobaa87 so why don't you build one?
Sick build, very innovative!!! if you put the relief cut at the corners on the back side you would accomplish what your after with a better appearance..
that look so cool I wish that I could have one #xbox computer
I respect that Roxette's Joyride CD.
add controller grips on the sides with working buttons and joysticks, like a really large switch XD
Fan is not big enough.
if you watched the video you would have seen how the 2 fans one for intake and one for output was plenty enough to keep temps below 100* Fahrenheit
There was no heavy load/GPU usage test, to be sure.
Not even any gameplay.
Doesn't need a benchmark, he didn't just throw in some random shit and go "yeah that'll do". It's all calculated before putting it all together, and with the APU heat censor and all that, the fans would have to work a bit harder but with the heatsink and intake/exhaust, it'd add up to roughly the same temperature. AND like he said, APU's are a lot less heat intensive than you'd expect, did you even watch the video??
I love how the footage recorded of the 3d printed part with the cavities at 16:24 was one where the part popped off the bed. lol
It's a great design, but would be cool if it had a built in battery like some game cases. I love the finished product. Great for people who travel a lot and dont want to lug around an xbox and cables to play at a hotel. Even could be played at an airport dock station while you wait. If i this option over just sticking my xbox in a portable case. i would get this
Make this like a suitcase with a holding handle and a 4K screen I would pay a lot for it
theres no way that thing stayed cooled enough to actually play games for an extended amount of time
Since the Xbox One supports mouse and keyboard, I was really hoping that you would've placed a nice low profile keyboard into the design. Would of made surfing the web super easy with it's built in Edge web browser. Not to mention sending text messages would be a snap as well.
Ben messed up by getting rid of the front USB port and Microsoft messed up by not putting more of them on the front. Also a keyboard with dual tracking pads would have been nice.
I'm surprised at how professional the end product looked, you need to team up with Microsoft.
I built-in projector would've been awesome
I would have loved if you made the power supply into a power brick to make it smaller
Poe took the jacket off when he first entered the tie-fighter.
One of the best TH-cam channels I've ever seen, so informative
an xbox one/beamer combo with wireless speakers would be a nice project :)
I love the idea and the outcome but the one thing that I would really like to add is a keyboard and voila.
Wire finders already exist... they have for quite some time using RF transmitters/recievers, nothing special.
a keyboard would have been awesome for sending messages to friend. Nice build!
Looking sharp Ben!
I was shaking my head when at about 8:20. Right after he got done talking about current carrying capacity of the wires. He said uh oh copper to aluminum wires, eh shouldn't be a problem. Thankfully it probably is nickel plated copper wire just bare aluminum to copper connections equal bad things. Just Google house fires caused by incorrect aluminum wiring.
Ben should do feature length commentaries
To lighten it up just a bit and make it faster is to swap that HDD out for a SSD. Expensive but worth it in the end.
Dude I really like your inventions and hacks to be honest I would really want one, I wish im a good inventor like you
the 70s had these steros with mood lites that changed colors when music was played do tht to the studio n use colored led`s.....maybe inbed them into the walls or cenor lites at floor level so if u have kids u wont tripp on hot wheels or toys...
Could you put out a do it yourself guide that is about 3-4 hours long so we could do it along side you?
Would've been cool if you also had an HDMI port so you could use it as both a console and laptop.
LOL the cable thing is already done xD its called a Toner, we use it in the Telecoms industry
Pretty much all the exclusives are playable on a regular laptop now lol.
I would have liked to see a keyboard added, like a true laptop
Have it have a built in Keyboard. That would make the Web browser and the video streaming apps work much better.
With the power of editing you could have at least given us a glimpse of the end product. Editing!
The Beard Heck Show, you look great btw.
23:34 Poe Dameron took off his jacket when he got into the TIE fighter
I would buy this off you in a heart beat
wait a minute, the Xbox One Blu Ray drive is a stardard SATA off the shelf?
I'll keep that in mind when my buddy shows up with a broken day 1 unit.
But then again, when consoles fail it's usually the disk drive, so no free BD drives for me...
I'd love to see this revisited for games testing and temperatures.
No battery and no integrated controller on this thing, kind of a shame. I mean you look at it and it's proportions are really weird, it's very wide, if you just added a big ass battery to it you could produce something with actual laptop proportions, that would make the bezel on the screen way smaller than the literal 90s 486 laptop antique frame you've got going on there right now.
Could you make a "Wii U-DS-Laptop"? I.e., do what you did with this XBOX ONE S laptop but for a Wii U but also put the touchscreen controller inside the laptop so it essentially looks and functions like an oversized DS?
Forgot to add rubber bumps on the display case cause well we don't want the display case to grind with the hardware case !
i have a confession, i dont understand 99% of this but i love it
actually the slim is basically practical for this. cool idea.
if you ever get to mass produce this...I'll buy one
I need to see how you extended a new board from the front panel. I cant find a pinout anywhere!
That’s what I’m looking for as well. Been searching for months and can’t find anything. I literally want to extend all the components. If you ever find out how to and if you remember, come back here and leave me a reply and I’ll be sure to do the same for you if I find something
That last project suggestion? Um... They already make one. It's a tone generator. AT&T has used them as far back as the 60's.
t. Former AT&T employee.
Build a suitcase PC that runs up DC so you can swap all the parts out when it's time to upgrade and 1080p display
battery option and I am sold
just wondering, couldn't the power supply have its own case or something to have it like a laptop charger? that way you could have gained a little more space to make it slimmer.
People need to sell this thing!!
the wire tracer is called a fox and hound
omg, when the windows sound played at the beginning for a device connected, i freaked out for a sec, i thought my keyboard had been disconnected without me knowing and had just reconnected hahahah
I know this isn't where you wanted this but I'm lazy. Build the cable detector I'd buy it!
Ben!! love the show, had an idea for an episode. kinda different but how about going over how you use tools like onenote, your surface, and anything else you use to organize your ideas and projects?? would really be useful info!
an AIO with a handle would be cooler. next you should 3D print a new neSWITCH case and add a bigger 1080 amoled screen and a much bigger battery. maybe relock the cpu back up
You should put in a USB keyboard that is stripped down as it would be easier to type with :)