Off The Board NHL Draft Picks | Where Are They Now?

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  • In this video we talk about the "off the board" selection stories of Moritz Seider, Tyler Boucher, and Sergei Bautin.
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  • @RobTalksHockey
    @RobTalksHockey  ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Can you name a weird draft selection?

    • @amecarethqc6652
      @amecarethqc6652 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nikita Kucherov late 2nd round. He tore the MHL apart as well as the U18. Not sure if he could be considered a "weird draft selection" though

    • @danielz3936
      @danielz3936 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Boston Bruins 2015 triple picks

    • @mattblom3990
      @mattblom3990 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Olli Juolevi instead of Matthew Tkachuk? 😆😆

    • @felixbarlati5071
      @felixbarlati5071 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      fucking lotkaniemi instead of Tkachuk :(

    • @roofpizza1250
      @roofpizza1250 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Rick DiPietro. 1st? C'mon.

  • @anthonyrandell2822
    @anthonyrandell2822 ปีที่แล้ว +696

    Honestly, after he built the Lightning into perennial contenders (and back to back winners), and then the Seider pick, anyone who questions Yzerman is a fool.

    • @SRGNTSLUGHTR
      @SRGNTSLUGHTR ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes

    • @ianammon6040
      @ianammon6040 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I'm not disagreeing with you, but as someone who saw Ray Shero's early success with the Penguins up close in Pittsburgh, I urge caution. Every GM has an expiration date. Kunitz for Whitney, the Hossa trade, Neal for Goligoski, they all seemed like magic.

    • @BigDaddy-vq5ks
      @BigDaddy-vq5ks ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ianammon6040 dude is your guy a hall of famer with deep ties to the city that revolutionized the game? The guy you’re talking about won like nothing considering he had Sidney Crosby and Malkin in their prime. Your comparison is idiotic who in Detroit is anywhere near Crosby level? You’re a typical Pittsburgh loudmouth

    • @ianammon6040
      @ianammon6040 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BigDaddy-vq5ks I intentionally didn't include Crosby or Malkin, nor did I mention anything about the teams success. I pointed to moves our GM made that were seen as "magic" by the locals around here. But you're right, I should be talking about the Owner, Mario Lemieux.

    • @standardyeepz
      @standardyeepz ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I don’t think anybody looked at shero as an Yzerman level GM lol

  • @jaret217
    @jaret217 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Wheeler was drafted by the Coyotes. He refused to report and went to Boston. Years later, Atlanta traded for Wheeler then moved to Winnipeg.

    • @tommygoode9644
      @tommygoode9644 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If Blake Wheeler was drafted by the Coyotes then he was drafted by Winnipeg because the original Jets became the Coyotes. So in a way Rob got that one right.

    • @passtheawksshow
      @passtheawksshow ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@tommygoode9644 Ehh not really. Two different franchises entirely, with two different draft histories.

    • @APJTA
      @APJTA ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tommygoode9644 Nah, because he was drafted by the Coyotes after they had moved to Phoenix. He wasn't drafted by Atlanta.

    • @s4nchez298
      @s4nchez298 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yotes never catch a break, eh :,//

  • @chrispswann6825
    @chrispswann6825 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    The most off the board pick ever was the Sabres selecting Taro Tsujimoto 183rd overall in the 1974 draft. The Sabres drafted a player who didn't exist lol!

    • @HughHarding46
      @HughHarding46 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The greatest practical joke in history.

    • @LyonHall1
      @LyonHall1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      never doubt Taro.Dude is an absolute legend

    • @nickniehaus1763
      @nickniehaus1763 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup

    • @gwell66v2AnimeReviews
      @gwell66v2AnimeReviews ปีที่แล้ว

      What's great is a guy who didn't exist had about as goid a chance to make it as anyone else past the5th round

    • @dickieknutz2933
      @dickieknutz2933 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@HughHarding46 is that what a practical joke is?

  • @abrahamlincoln9758
    @abrahamlincoln9758 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    "What would winning the Calder mean to you?"
    "Nothing. It's an unnecessary distraction."
    That's why Stevie picked him.

    • @4.5.0.Garage
      @4.5.0.Garage ปีที่แล้ว +22

      When he picked him I remember telling myself that there's no way Stevie would make a shitty pick. I knew he knew something

    • @irvinepoker3187
      @irvinepoker3187 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@4.5.0.Garage same here i was in a hotel bar watching the draft having some beers and when they made the pick i was suprised to but kinda excited lol i had to youtube and search him up i remember wanting bowen byram lol

    • @peterdragon6367
      @peterdragon6367 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He has such a good eye for seeing what the players can be vs just what kind of numbers they put up in juniors

  • @samfoster7691
    @samfoster7691 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Every time I think of crazy selections I always think of the Bruins 2015 draft taking debrusk senyeshin and zboril over Brock boeser, Sebastian aho and Thomas chabot.
    Love the vids man keep up the good work!

    • @dino3965
      @dino3965 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Don't forget Kyle Connor, I sure don't 😐

    • @samfoster7691
      @samfoster7691 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dino3965 true yet another stud they missed by going off the board crazy

    • @ryanrombauts7158
      @ryanrombauts7158 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mat Barzal

    • @bbeaup
      @bbeaup ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@dino3965 yeah ouch. the most underrated elite goal scorer. like always in top 5 but never talked about

    • @Bruhmar
      @Bruhmar ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Matt Barzal was also available which is insane to think about

  • @EightMilesHigh1966
    @EightMilesHigh1966 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Blake Wheeler was drafted by Phoenix and signed with Boston as a college free agent before being traded to Atlanta and moving to Winnipeg

    • @0725038
      @0725038 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And where was Phoenix before? Winnipeg, in a way he's not wrong.

    • @horseygirl03
      @horseygirl03 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@0725038 Yeah I was thinking this too. It’s a completely different organization but still the same name 🤔

    • @Dorian803
      @Dorian803 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@0725038 he was drafted by Phoenix after they moved to Phoenix. It's like saying that the Hartford Whalers drafted Sebastian Aho, or more like saying that Atlanta drafted Tkachuk, since the organization is ambiguous in this context

    • @anthonyrandell2822
      @anthonyrandell2822 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@0725038 no, he’s wrong. Winnipeg became Phoenix. The new Jets moved from Atlanta. Wheeler was drafted by Phoenix.

    • @Liamlols
      @Liamlols ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He played 3 seasons for the bruins before ever going to Atlanta.

  • @daytonhh9698
    @daytonhh9698 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It’s been one year since Ottawa’s draft lol how can you judge it already

  • @VoIcanoman
    @VoIcanoman ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Wheeler was drafted by Phoenix. Not Winnipeg. And after college, he didn't sign an ELC with the Coyotes, became a UFA, and was signed by the Bruins. So you can't give that one to the Jets management. Scheifele was a brilliant move though.

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was post Winnipeg to Phoenix. I grouped it together

    • @mackasaint4759
      @mackasaint4759 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@RobTalksHockey can you expand on this thought

    • @ImmortalWombat
      @ImmortalWombat ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@mackasaint4759 seems he's considering the coyotes as the jets cuz they used to be??

    • @koolguy3
      @koolguy3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@RobTalksHockey i don't get it. Are you saying because winnipeg 1.0 turned into phoenix, winnipeg 2.0 and phoenix are basically the same franchise?? Schiefle is winnipeg 2.0, nothing to do with Phoenix, the team that drafted Wheeler.

    • @ianstephenson9721
      @ianstephenson9721 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Then why mention Scheifele

  • @ronaldwayne7092
    @ronaldwayne7092 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    For those wondering about Sergei Bautin, yes, he was so off the board that TSN thought the Jets had taken Sergei Brylin. (Which would have been a bit of a reach, but at least plausible in that slot.)
    That was the draft that Mike Smith went nuts taking Russians - 9 of 12 picks. The two he got remotely right were #27 Boris Mironov, who had a reasonable career for that slot, and #204 Nikolai Khabibulin. That draft was heavy in late-round steals, but the Bulin Wall was the best theft of all.

    • @gen-x-dad
      @gen-x-dad ปีที่แล้ว

      Smith was a train wreck. I always referred to our team as the Winnipeg Nyets. He was fascinated with the Russians, was always disheveled, and wore sweaters instead of ties. I have the same memory of Brylin, it was actually Bob McKenzie who began talking about it, sounded confused. If you can fool McKenzie you really went off the board. We also had Igor Ulanov the same year. Better than Bautin but injury prone...but his bodychecks were worth the admission price some nights. Maybe Smith saw the writing on the wall in the pre-salary cap NHL, and brining over Russians was his answer to a low spending team.

  • @mattymattffs
    @mattymattffs ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Seider plays hockey the way we did when I was a kid in Germany some 20 years ago. Kind of funny to see it in the nhl

    • @Logannnnn
      @Logannnnn ปีที่แล้ว

      He plays exactly like me and my d partner did here in Saskatchewan

    • @supermegaguy666
      @supermegaguy666 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same except I'm 20% better

  • @hubyszn1147
    @hubyszn1147 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Yzerman took Seider 6th Overall pick.
    Yzerman:I took this personally after Seider won Calder Trophy this year

  • @maxadler98
    @maxadler98 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    7:22 underwhelming? Seider had an exceptional season in the DEL. He had more of a defensive role in a team that won the league. You also gotta take into consideration that he was a 18-year old playing against grown men and former NHLers.

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I should have clarified “underwhelming” in the context of a near top 5 pick.

    • @longliverocknroll5
      @longliverocknroll5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@RobTalksHockey And you'd still be wrong. As a teenager, he excelled at literally the hardest part of his job as a defenceman: playing defence.

    • @garyvandecar2580
      @garyvandecar2580 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobTalksHockey Puts up 50 points and wins the Calder Trophy in his rookie season, If that's underwhelming. I'll take that any day of the year.

  • @thereisnowayyouareforreal5156
    @thereisnowayyouareforreal5156 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Man. Standing up krieder is a flex like none other in hockey. I remember when krieder gained like 30 pounds in an off season. Guy is an absolute monster.

  • @codynicholas6000
    @codynicholas6000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep up the good work Rob! Beauty of a channel.

  • @joshdoldersum9132
    @joshdoldersum9132 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    In what universe is the Lightning the greatest dynasty in NHL history? Other than that, excellent vid as always.

    • @VictorValiant24
      @VictorValiant24 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Same thoughts... the team that Steve Yzerman played for was a much better dynasty than TB...
      25 straight playoffs made
      6 Cup Finals in 14 years
      4 Stanley Cups in 12 years
      Not even close for Tampa, but it IS remarkable what he's done as a GM.

    • @MrManfly
      @MrManfly ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seider wasn’t that off the board compared to the awful pick that was Tyler Boucher at # 10 ! That one will sting Ottawa for years when you consider that the next player taken was Cole Sillinger who had a strong rookie season of 16 goals and 15 assists in 79 games as an 18 year old ! 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @Promelair
      @Promelair ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It could be argued that a discussion can be made between them, the Pittsburgh Penguins and the Chicago Blackhawks for the greatest dynasty in the SALARY CAP ERA. In whole NHL history, nah, not a chance. You've got the 70s Montreal Canadiens, the 80s New York Islanders and Edmonton Oilers, the 90s Pittsburgh Penguins and Detroit Red Wings. This Tampa Bay Lightning team/core group reached 4 finals and won 2, which is awesome and indeed a great dynasty.
      Just not the greatest, nope.

    • @enihwlatot4052
      @enihwlatot4052 ปีที่แล้ว

      How many NHL teams win back to back cups, and then go to the finals 3 years in a row? Spoiler alert, not many. Tampa is a dynasty, I’m a wings fan and can’t even argue that.

    • @VictorValiant24
      @VictorValiant24 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Promelair Absolutely correct. They're a dynasty, all right... just not yet in the discussion of best ever.

  • @KalmoK
    @KalmoK ปีที่แล้ว +14

    If Yzerman drafts someone, you should trust him... Dude is a genius

  • @turtle4946
    @turtle4946 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally a good hockey channel, there’s a ton of channels like this for the nba and soccer but I haven’t found anything like this for hockey, quality videos man

    • @bingbong1966
      @bingbong1966 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      UrinAting tree is a good hockey youtoube

    • @turtle4946
      @turtle4946 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bingbong1966 oh shit you’re right, I honestly forgot

  • @tt128556
    @tt128556 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I still remember the buzz around Daigle, who was mean to be the next Gretzky.

    • @RN-rx7wd
      @RN-rx7wd ปีที่แล้ว +4

      and people trying to figure out how to say his name. The hype was real though, you are right.

    • @moocherman8
      @moocherman8 ปีที่แล้ว

      The hype was %100 deserved for Daigle in his draft year, he was just never able to put everything together in the big leagues.

  • @MrGabou77
    @MrGabou77 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If I was a GM in the NHL, I'm get into trade talks with Steve Y just to feel his interest in my players to know if there's any that I'm undervaluing.

    • @janchovanec8624
      @janchovanec8624 ปีที่แล้ว

      One thing a merchant should never sell out on is trust.
      Doing that you will get a minor temporary advantage.
      Losing trust and damaging your reputation is the end going forward.

  • @gunshow2121
    @gunshow2121 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a long time Detroit fan… it’s nice to see them get some praise again 🥲

  • @alexarkhangelskiy6302
    @alexarkhangelskiy6302 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the sneaky Golden Eye soundtrack you snuck in there. Great content bud. Keep crushin!

  • @briangeary7684
    @briangeary7684 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You missed fenton taking Fillip Johansson in 2018 in the first round for the Wild. The announcers were baffled and had no information / stats. He didn’t resign with the Wild and now is with Vancouver. We did get a 56 compensatory pick this year, grabbing Lorenz a wing, so we gave away the 18th overall pick for a 56…..

  • @seanfaucher9602
    @seanfaucher9602 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Epic rob, back at it again

  • @MarquisdeSuave
    @MarquisdeSuave ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As for Bautin, he was one of those Russian players who fell through the cracks. Outside of the top tier Russians like Bure, Mogilny and Federov there wasnt much scouting done for Russians in their pro leagues and a lot of teams got their first (and usually only) looks at Russian players at international competition. Bautin was one of the starters on the Russian team that won the Gold in 92. He was a big, solid and strong defender with some really intriguing offensive skills for a stay at home defender. He would never be a star but if he was paired with Phil Housley the idea was that his game would allow Housley to do his thing on the offensive end because Bautin would have his back.
    What I remember about Bautin was how he physically dominated the space around the crease during the 92 Olympics. He effectively gave Eric Lindros the fits when the Russian United team beat Canada as well as allowed his backline partner Sergei Zubov the space to make some great runs in on goal. That Russian team was not as good as other Russian teams but they still wrecked shop and Bautin was a big reason for that.
    He was 25 and yeah, maybe Winnipeg could have waited until the 4th or 5th round to grab him but the 92 draft was pretty weak and they were definitely worried that another team had watched Bautin as they did during the 92 Olympica.
    It was a gamble and it didnt pay off. Bautin had a lot of miles on his legs before he hit the NHL and he never quite acclimated to the style of play in North America but I remember thinking at the time that Winnipeg might have just gotten the steal of the draft with Bautin.

    • @stevedrake604
      @stevedrake604 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, most all the D-men from both Dynamo and CSKA were drafted by, and played in, the NHL. Bautin was solid, if unspectacular, and eventually found Europe more suitable to his game and lifestyle. The other Russian brute they drafted in the 10th round ... Igor Ulanov ... turned out to be a much more versatile and steady NHL pro. Both played solid positional D, however and had no issue banging with the bigger forwards. The NHL got a little Russo-nutzoid in that 1991-1994 era.

  • @Nstarksy-91
    @Nstarksy-91 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’m suprised you didn’t put yegor chinakhov in this video because I had no idea who he was when he was drafted

  • @melgreier1630
    @melgreier1630 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It’s no coincidence that Steve Yzerman is so smart with drafting players after playing for, and probably unknowingly, apprenticing under Scotty Bowman for all those years... he picked up on who Scotty would play in any given situation, which wasn’t always apparent.
    Hey Steve , any chance you’d like to join my Habs as an executive draft consultant? 😂😂

    • @viperswhip
      @viperswhip ปีที่แล้ว

      People thought he was a bust for years as well, so he probably has some insight into that.

  • @shaunmichaud4162
    @shaunmichaud4162 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blake Wheeler was drafted by the Phoenix Coyotes in 2004. The Winnipeg Jets weren't even in the league at that time. The team was still called the Atlanta Thrashers

  • @michaelfeyer2728
    @michaelfeyer2728 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the videos !

  • @pkzammy666
    @pkzammy666 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "After assembling the greatest dynasty in NHL history..."
    Um what?
    the '76 - '79 Canadiens, '80 - '83 Islanders, '84 - '90 Oilers, '10 - '15 Blackhawks, '51 - '60 Canadians, and a few more teams would like to kindly ask what you are smoking.

    • @carletonrutherford1799
      @carletonrutherford1799 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude, he put Seider in a video about off the board picks. In the video he himself said Seider was ranked 15 or 20. Not exactly off the board. He needs to understand what hyperbole is. "arguably the greatest dynasty in NHL history"!?!?!? Yeah, I would also like to argue that. But hey, the dynasties you mentioned happened over 20 years ago, so do they even count? This dude needs to put down the Red Bulls, or whatever he uses to hype himself up.

    • @hillbillydeluxe27
      @hillbillydeluxe27 ปีที่แล้ว

      1976-1977. The Montreal Canadiens lost only 8 regular season games. No other team has ever accomplished that feat. And there were some very good teams in the league that year.

  • @LieuFang
    @LieuFang ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yegor Chinakhov was a recent off the board pick. The guy was a 2nd year eligible player who had analysts literally saying "I don't know who this is" and not having any video, and he slept through his own selection because he didn't think he'd be taken so high.
    But then he won the KHL Rookie of the Year as a top goal scorer for the champion Avangard Omsk. Had his shooting ability compared to Joe Sakic by the Avalanche's former head coach. And Scott Wheeler named him as a Top 5 draft grade revision, switching his projection from non-NHLer to 2nd line sniper.

  • @Philly5Blunt
    @Philly5Blunt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Boucher is having a really good year right now for the 67s

  • @Tjd1982
    @Tjd1982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who questions Yzerman and his picks, we (wings fans)knew he were picking Sieder. We have amazing scouts, look at Holmstrom, Zettiberg, Datsyk, Konstintinov, Drake, Klima, Federov etc etc. None of them first round.
    We were the only team to send a scout to see Datsyk in his tiny Russian town.

  • @hatermcdader9566
    @hatermcdader9566 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I mean with the Winnipeg Jets you were talking about two different franchises

  • @codymacdermid8225
    @codymacdermid8225 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Does this guy mention Steve Yzerman in every video?

    • @HughHarding46
      @HughHarding46 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could be and if he does, he will not hear me complaining.

  • @CanadianLoveKnot
    @CanadianLoveKnot ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Philippe Paradis was rated as a 3rd round pick that went late in the 1st round in 2009, and was literally dumped several months later.

  • @filmmallard3558
    @filmmallard3558 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey rob, a cool video idea would be looking back at the 7 KHL drafts that there were. I wont get into too many things but just as a hint, in the inaugural KHL draft, the teams picking at 5 and 7 just simply didn’t make picks. Just a fun little suggestion, think it would be an interesting video

  • @kylet9116
    @kylet9116 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved your last sentence! Lgrw

  • @LoowheezeBreeze
    @LoowheezeBreeze ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:27 The Atlanta Thrashers/Jets drafted Schiefele... Wheeler was drafted by Phoenix, which has no connection to the current Jets team...
    Wheeler didn't sign with Phoenix, who eventually lost his rights, and he signed with Boston, who then traded him to Atlanta
    How do you not know that?

  • @southviewarab
    @southviewarab ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Moritz is the future of the NHL

  • @jonasberg3760
    @jonasberg3760 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seider 🇩🇪🤍❤️
    Greetings from Germany 🤗

  • @BradLambert93
    @BradLambert93 ปีที่แล้ว

    This kind of made me think of how the Jets picked Rutger McGroarty 14th overall when he was ranked in the late 20s. Hope he turns out good!

  • @brandonwalker9220
    @brandonwalker9220 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why do you have Lucas Raymond clips while talking about Seider? did you not revise this video before posting??

  • @MrGG1959
    @MrGG1959 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perhaps you could have gone into the wayback machine and pointed out that Detroit drafted Datsyuk and Zetterberg in the 6th and 7th rounds, and the rest of the league was left with egg on their faces on that one. There were so many hits and misses in the 36 years I spent in the business 1984-2220 including some legendary misses by a number of teams. Great video

    • @maxs1813
      @maxs1813 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow you had a amazing career, 200+ years. Makes the rest of us look like lazy sloths.

    • @stevenhaas9622
      @stevenhaas9622 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don’t forget Holmstrom was a 10th round pick and Konstantinov was an 11th rounder. Lidstrom was also a mid 3rd round pick. Stevie learned a lot from Holland and Devellano

    • @MrGG1959
      @MrGG1959 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevenhaas9622 I am aware of that as well, but it goes to show how inept some franchises have been over the years when they often pick someone in the first or second round that fails to pan out. The Red Wings had a great run of success from the mid eighties until about 2010 with a few early runs in the playoffs prior to having their great run in the finals over an extended period.

  • @mattverspeeten27
    @mattverspeeten27 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watched Tyler Boucher a couple times, not the biggest point producer but does the kid have some skill, once he puts it all together he’s going to be Lethal wherever he plays

  • @kenduffy5397
    @kenduffy5397 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Moritz Seider is my favorite player in the NHL. Yes, he’s the best defenseman I’ve seen in many, many years! Why? Because like the commentator said: He’s a mixture of the modern player and the old school player! It’s nice to see a good player like Moritz playing the game, the way it’s supposed to be played! I’m rooting for him but not when he’s playing my NY Islanders. Lol, Actually, I root for the Red Wings and The Avalanche too, believe it our not! Not because they have the 2 best defenseman in the entire league (though that does help) it’s because of nostalgia. There wasn’t a better rivalry in sports than the Red wings & Avalanche back in the 90s, it was awesome!

    • @germaniatv1870
      @germaniatv1870 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats when the Avalanche was basically still a Quebec City Nordiques Team, right?

    • @kenduffy5397
      @kenduffy5397 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@germaniatv1870 I’m thinking maybe… 2 years after they left Quebec? Don’t quote me on that. I’m sure you can look it up (like anything else) online. I really didn’t follow hockey until a friend talked me into playing. Once you play hockey, you can’t get enough. P.s. After our team’s roller hockey game. There was a deck hockey game without skates on. The needed an extra player so offered to play. I played about 1/2 of the game & said the Hell with this, we to much running around! I only played hockey without skates for a 1/2 game once in my entire life!

  • @sorenbiermann6528
    @sorenbiermann6528 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the weird thing about seider is that he was already a perfect shutdown dman in the german league as an 17 year old. Like even the us scouts didnt question his great matured defensive game, so didnt understand back at the time and still dont why everyone especially the scouts had him so low in the rankings. His coaching team back in mannheim, in the del told him to fully commit to his defensive game, but he still had his high hockey iq, his size, his good skating. Thats a pretty decent first pair d-man.

    • @Brainspoil
      @Brainspoil ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably because they doesnt look at the German hockey league as a top league. So despite Zeider looking great maybe they thought it'd be easier to do well against non NHL caliber players. Clearly Yzerman has a better eye than most for great talent.

    • @sorenbiermann6528
      @sorenbiermann6528 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Lesevesel absolutely they deserve the most credit for the seider pick

  • @nicoschneiderfitness2842
    @nicoschneiderfitness2842 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As Someone who saw every Game of seider in germany I can say its just amazongly wrong to say he had an underwhelming season in the DEL… most of the season he saw 17 years old throwing adults around like little puppys. Only going by his points when he was a rookie defenseman is much more underwhelming.
    Still love your videos Rob ❤

    • @VictorValiant24
      @VictorValiant24 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was underdeveloped defensively in the DEL. He then focused on his defense while with Rögle BK, making him the juggernaut he is now. He was ranked near #20 on a LOT of boards... I'm so glad that Stevie Y saw what he would become before we did!
      **EDIT: Correction on SHL club

    • @nicoschneiderfitness2842
      @nicoschneiderfitness2842 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@VictorValiant24 nah thats wrong. He also played pk.
      I would agree if you say he was underdeveloped offensivly. But his defense was fine.

    • @HughHarding46
      @HughHarding46 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VictorValiant24 Rogle BK, not Frolunda.

    • @VictorValiant24
      @VictorValiant24 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HughHarding46 Yes, that's right. Thanks for correcting that. The Wings have so many players that are playing/have played for Frolünda, it's just habit now. 🤣

    • @VictorValiant24
      @VictorValiant24 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nicoschneiderfitness2842 As far as what NHL teams look for, he was not fully developed as a defenseman. He needed to learn when to use that elite physicality, and when to hold back a bit. The scouting report actually scouted him as more of an offensively gifted d-man out of DEL. I'm not saying he couldn't play D, just that his game was less suited for the NA game. He worked hard on the finer points of his defensive game in the SHL.

  • @Josephcapra720
    @Josephcapra720 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sergei Bautin was one of my youth hockey coaches and he was the best coach of my entire life by far.

  • @Ballack99
    @Ballack99 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude you kept showing Raymond clips for Seider

    • @HughHarding46
      @HughHarding46 ปีที่แล้ว

      Should have shown clips from that game against Philidelphia.

  • @mikem7559
    @mikem7559 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will never ever forget the analysts and fans reaction to The Seider pick...and the criticism and mockery of Yzerman taking him at 6.. And thats after all the great drafts he had with Tampa Bay, turning them into multiple cup winners..Yzerman is very thorough in his assessment of players..No one should ever underestimate his knowledge and work he puts in..15 years from now, when Seider may very well be embarking on the end of a HOF Career, we can look back at his pick at #6 and say...Look who got the last laugh..Just sooo happy Stevie Y came back home where he always belonged!

  • @johnhanover2229
    @johnhanover2229 ปีที่แล้ว

    Usually the picks go to other teams for Avs, but I do like some they poached under the radar. MacKinnon, Makar, etc.

  • @Oujump
    @Oujump ปีที่แล้ว

    tyler boucher might end up like jason robertson people said he was not good enough for the nhl but now he a superstar

  • @lukeh2556
    @lukeh2556 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "I don't know what's in the water in winnipeg" .. well it varies day to day

  • @TheDprime
    @TheDprime ปีที่แล้ว

    speaking of weird selections, is that the 007 theme I hear in the background LOL

  • @JeffreyJetsKohut
    @JeffreyJetsKohut ปีที่แล้ว

    First Sergei Buatin was 25 when he started in the NHL. Second, in 1995-96 the farm team of the San Jose Sharks was an IHL team. They didn't have an AHL affiliate.

  • @pakkajulmu
    @pakkajulmu ปีที่แล้ว +2

    we need a draft steal video next!

    • @shaman9
      @shaman9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      zetterberg, 210th

  • @cygnusx-1862
    @cygnusx-1862 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hats off to yzerman, the man has done an amazing job in Tampa but greatest dynasty of all time.... sometimes you say some stuff that really makes me question your judgement.

  • @wyatt1037
    @wyatt1037 ปีที่แล้ว

    you should make a video about the most recent U15 Prep CSSHL season

  • @wallacepeeace6492
    @wallacepeeace6492 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been a Red Wings fan since Yzerman and Kocur got drafted, I'm from Kelvington and went to school with his little brother Kory. And if Yzerman says something you need to listen because you'll learn from him...

  • @irvinepoker3187
    @irvinepoker3187 ปีที่แล้ว

    '' this is where SHIT would POP off!'' lmao i had to sub after that

  • @roostercogburn5005
    @roostercogburn5005 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seider has been misused by Lalonde. He plays the absolute hardest minutes by an NHL defensemen, and it's demonstrable. He plays predominantly defensive zone minutes against top opposing talent. That, along with other systemic issues needs to change if we are to see the full potential of this player.

  • @timmyb8694
    @timmyb8694 ปีที่แล้ว

    A fellow Red Wing fan once told me that Makar wasn't that good....
    I learned from that...

  • @Seraph89_
    @Seraph89_ ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I knew Seider was going to be a good player. Seen a video and heard his name once and I felt he was going to be a star.

  • @sully_99
    @sully_99 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How is a guy drafted one year ago a bust?

  • @theironrhino110
    @theironrhino110 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly, if your a GM at a draft and Stevey Y. picks a dude before you that you didn't even have on your watchlist, I'd start questioning my entire draft plan.

  • @BebopMansion
    @BebopMansion ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Goldeneye 64 soundtrack!

  • @jdunbar2995
    @jdunbar2995 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yegor chinakhov that was a off board pick and has worked out pretty well for the jackets

  • @DS-mo7vu
    @DS-mo7vu ปีที่แล้ว

    When you went to Yzerman I was confused b/c everything he touches turns to platinum gold lol

  • @shanehaggerty3297
    @shanehaggerty3297 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lucas Raymond highlights when he’s talking about seider lol

  • @DSled
    @DSled ปีที่แล้ว

    Why so many Raymond clips during Seider portion?

  • @MrGG1959
    @MrGG1959 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yzerman just like he did in Tampa when he drafted Vasilevskiy, Kucherov and Sergachev he is looking like a genius now with the drafting of Seider. Lucas Raymond has to clean up his defensive game, and the Red Wings are a few years away from contending, but likely trending in the right direction.

    • @justinboyadjian3465
      @justinboyadjian3465 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sergachev was drafted by MTL

    • @MrGG1959
      @MrGG1959 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justinboyadjian3465 Justin your right he was drafted by the Canadiens.

  • @YzerWings
    @YzerWings ปีที่แล้ว

    Ken Holland and Steve Yzerman, two amazing scouts of talents

    • @JarradBruessel32
      @JarradBruessel32 ปีที่แล้ว

      Holland not so much. He failed in the 2015 draft when he drafted evgeny svechnikov. Only 7 guys in the 2015 draft haven't hit at least 100 career points in their careers of the top 30 picks. Svechnikov was one. He could have gotten sebastian aho, joel eriksson ek, brock boeser, travis konecny, anthony beaulvillier, roope hintz, daniel sprong, vince dunn, conor garland, kirill kaprizov, troy terry, or mangiapane. All of those guys are better than evgeny svechnikov. Then the 2016 draft he took dennis cholowski over tage thompson, brett howden, jordan kyrou, debrincat, adam fox, jesper bratt, filip gustavsson and carter hart. 2017 he drafted rasmussen over martin necas, nick suzuki, Robert thomas, filip chytil, jake oettinger, jason robertson. 2018 he took zadina over quinn hughes, noah dobson, and joel farabee. We go back further he picked mantha over guys like burakovsky, shea Theodore, and buchnevich to name a few.

  • @bingo5694
    @bingo5694 ปีที่แล้ว

    When the Hurricanes picked Jeff Skinner in '10, that threw the TV pundits for a loop. Worked out well until it didn't.

  • @TEKDAD
    @TEKDAD ปีที่แล้ว

    Winnipeg 2.0 is Atlanta, no link with Phoenix. Wheeler was drafted by the coyotes to finally play in Boston.

  • @taskdon769
    @taskdon769 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tbf, you can rarely go wrong with big right shot defenseman. The only other right shot defenseman was Soderstrom ranked higher but Soderstrom is smaller and Swedish defensemans are usually overrated.

  • @Basstam777
    @Basstam777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job on the clip of Raymond and Larkin where Seider is nowhere to be found. With that kind of quality editing you should work for ESPN.

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  ปีที่แล้ว

      I was referencing a Raymond/Seider video. Chill man lmao

  • @toddandterry1011
    @toddandterry1011 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you refer to Wheeler as a Jets draft pick? You ripped Ottawa pretty hard for Boucher, but aside from a couple tenders and Mailloux there really isn’t that much quality in the 1st round of that draft. I know it’s early, but looks like a draft full of know namers after pick 9.

  • @carletonrutherford1799
    @carletonrutherford1799 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    6:53 Detroit took Seider at 6, when he was ranked in the 15 to 20 range. Not exactly off the board, dude. He was still ranked in the first. It's fine to fawn over him, because he won the Calder, but to put him in a video about "off the board draft picks"? Come on man, you're reaching.

    • @Sands-of-time
      @Sands-of-time ปีที่แล้ว +1

      An announcement.
      Carleton = Duche bag.
      Thank you.

  • @RRaquello
    @RRaquello ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Ottawa 67's have killer uniforms. I mean the dark ones. The white ones are just OK.

  • @KibblezanBitz
    @KibblezanBitz ปีที่แล้ว

    Wheeler was drafted by the Coyotes. We got him at age 25 from the Bruins.

  • @homer1268
    @homer1268 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seider is doing great - just needs more help on defense

  • @irvinepoker3187
    @irvinepoker3187 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol that 007 music susc memories lol

  • @leafsfan1539
    @leafsfan1539 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow didn’t know Wheeler was taking by the jets thought it was the bruins for sure so i looked into and sure enough 😂 the more ya know

  • @theandrigo1
    @theandrigo1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Usually hate people with this type of channel set up but, you really know your hockey and I enjoy listening to your takes

  • @Ferg13
    @Ferg13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the Snyder story. The Y-zer plan was right about him. Let’s hope he can keep it going.

    • @nathanmitchell3839
      @nathanmitchell3839 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Seider

    • @Ferg13
      @Ferg13 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nathanmitchell3839 whoops. Him too 😂😂. My bad!sounded like Snyder.

  • @dave1927p
    @dave1927p 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kyle turris was a surprise pick by the coyotes - Gretzky who was the coach at the time compared himself to Kyle. Didn’t pan out.

  • @cbjm36
    @cbjm36 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you not mention Yegor Chinakhov

  • @neightinn9734
    @neightinn9734 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tyler has been reported to be one of the best at sens camp this summer, so mayb he just needed some time, I hope

  • @ileee1
    @ileee1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only wierd thing abaut Seider was why Detroit didn't trade down? They could have gotten so much value of that pick+alot of future assets and could even now be in much better position...

    • @themorethemerrier281
      @themorethemerrier281 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Stevie knew that Ken also wanted Seider - and Edmonton was just two picks behind.

    • @bbeaup
      @bbeaup ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He was around 16 by the scouts and analysts but most nhl organizations knew his value was in top 10 and a couple teams right behind detroit were potentially gonna take him

  • @macmillan_kai
    @macmillan_kai ปีที่แล้ว

    part 2 please

  • @zachgrantham1500
    @zachgrantham1500 ปีที่แล้ว

    Boucher will be a dominant 3rd liner and foundation piece for Ottawa in the coming years for Ottawa.

  • @mustardtigerbaaaaaam
    @mustardtigerbaaaaaam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So we could end up having a redwings/avs final one day lol

  • @ryanbraff960
    @ryanbraff960 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stars drafting Gurianov is a perfect example

  • @devooski4751
    @devooski4751 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kent Hughes is feeling huge.

  • @Migmaw
    @Migmaw ปีที่แล้ว

    First round doesn't always mean superstar, Alexander Daigle ring any bells? Pat Falloon?

  • @jasonschwartz9481
    @jasonschwartz9481 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seider is a REALLY good young defensemen. Something that I don't get is how people are saying that these young guys are bringing a new thing to the NHL...As in, bringing together the old and new. But, players like Letang, prime Subban, EK65 (though he doesn't hit much), Josi, Hedman, Burns, have all been doing this for a while. Some, like Letang, for 15 years.

  • @matthewmead2374
    @matthewmead2374 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know it's kinda confusing but the IHL wasn't at a lower competitive level than the AHL (at least not in concept) and was an alternative farm league that some NHL teams used instead of the AHL. If memory serves there were also independent teams in the league that were comprised of former NHLers, failed prospects and international players. So IHL=AHL. I wouldn't be surprised if in actual practice one league was significantly more competitive than the other, but both acted as the highest level of minor league hockey. The ECHL would be on the next tier lower

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The IHL as a league heavily struggled and had a far lower soft salary cap. This would inevitably cause weaker competition and less pay. Technically it was on the same level as the AHL, but the infrastructure/competition wasn't up to par

  • @facoba9332
    @facoba9332 ปีที่แล้ว

    can’t believe we took cutter

  • @jreiland07
    @jreiland07 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There’s going to be more than a few Bruins in here aren’t there.