IS THIS THE BEST TITANIUM ROAD BIKE YOU NEVER HEARD OF? (BLACHEART ROAD Ti)
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I am extremely excited to try out this bike and see how the ride feels in different to carbon. Really never got to experience long distance riding or at fast speeds with a titanium bike. If you are interested in looking at the bike as well. Head on over to there website in the description
I also bought this frame and have been riding it for about 2 months. Built it up with the new SRAM 1x force as a travel crit bike. Very happy overall with the ride & build quality. Should last forever and take knocks/crashes better.
Get more TI setups on the channel.
@@alexanderkonyha6131 Welcome to the fam!
My first big spend bike was/is titanium, I built the frame up with all the parts I wanted/could afford. I love the ride and wouldn't change it to carbon even if it was at a knock down price. The ride and longevity win me over all day long, intact I'd buy another as a gravel ride if I could afford it!
lets see how this one does oin fast group rides and long rides on the road
Just got my BlackHeart AllRoad Ti with Force AXS 2x and Hunt 44 Aerodynamicist wheels less than a week ago. It feels and rides amazing. Everywhere I go I get asked about it because it stands out amongst all the overly aero-carbon fiber frames you usually see.
Bonus in working with a smaller company, Zach (the founder) helped me every step of the way in creating a build. We must’ve exchanged hundreds of emails, you aren’t gonna get that with a big brand. Super stoked, great experience.
Welcome to the fam Javi 🖤🖤🖤
I am a huge titanium fan, too, yet I have never obsessed over the welds on aluminum frames and maybe it is just me but I don't really notice beefy welds, not to say that I don't prefer those neat welds on this titanium frame. Thanks for featuring it.
its literall art this bike they make it so pretty with the welds
Wow! Lucy Mannall is one of their ambassadors. I first saw her on the Francis Cade channel when she was working with Sigma Sports.
Lucy is the best!
gorgeous. Ti has a magic ride quality and they can look special if well executed. Can't wait to hear your review
I am so stoked to build this thing up
I saw my first titanium bike up close at the weekend. An Enigma. I loved the way the finish looked. Would like to try one some time
they are truly art work that look good in any house
I am planning a Ti build myself so I Can't wait to hear how this turns out!
awesome ordering the parts now
Nice, smaller, welds are also a byproduct of Ti bikes being hand welded, pretty much universally, due to low production volume. Whereas Al are cranked out at high volume on automated machines, and a big ol weld is integral to good QC in this production method.
agreed it shows the craftsmanship and respect when making the product
Titanium bikes are sick, my next bike needs to be one!
im stoked for this one
Hi GC ;) - had the All Road version of this bike for a weekend - the titanium aspect didn't really blow me away. Curious to hear your thoughts after you build it up. I always was enchanted with the idea of titanium as well, but after riding it seemed more like a mirage. Thx for all the videos and your endless enthusiasm.
Thanks so much!! And that’s what I’m looking for when we get to ride the bike. I can’t wait to see long and fast rides
@@GCPerformance18 did you get to ride the bike yet?
Actually you can have in every frame with mechanical groupset, it would require Jagwire (compressionless type cables) to be used with inside or outside cable routing. Simple.
That’s pretty slick looking. You got me wanting and now considering a titanium bike.
it is super sharp everyone I show at the shop is in love
I don’t have a Ti bike but what’s always intrigued me is that it combines many good characteristics of other materials particularly good ride quality and durability. Over the years I seriously thought about getting a custom Ti frame made, sell all my bikes (three) and call it my “last bike” ever.
I look forward to seeing if this is true
@@GCPerformance18 please give us your feedback about how it rides. I trust your opinions - is Ti really all it’s made out to be?
The only bike I regret selling is my Serotta Colorado Ti.
I’m currently waiting for the delivery of a Bill Davidson custom rim brake Ti frame. That said I will hold my FTW built aluminum VYNL frame up against anything on the road today.
These are nice looking bikes! This company is offering some really good bikes. A Ti bike will most likely be my next bike
yea they really are putting out some very nice stuff!!
Congrats on the new bike! I personally own a Lynskey R500 titanium road bike. You will love the ride.
I cant wait to try it
You're going to love ti. It soaks up everything on the road and is extremely comfortable (even more so if when you go custom). Depending where you live, I would argue that ti could easily be your daily driver while saving your light carbon bike for fast groups rides and events.
we are super lfat so I can not wait to ride this bike in group rides and see how it repsonds to speed and in a group
@@GCPerformance18
Looking forward for your next update/review ...
You can order online any design, anu geometry made of titanu in China for about 500-700USD for a frame.
"titanium"
we call any material from China Chinesium
Wow, you're telling me that if you have sloppy design and welding, no QC, laughable costumer support, respect no environmental laws and use forced labour you can sell stuff cheaper???
I had no idea.
I remember seeing this brand and the company owner was soliciting to online viewers the opportunity to invest in other words, crowd, source or fund the company. I thought about it for a moment if I wanted to do something like that and be a shareholder at any rate if I’m not mistaken, I believe these bikes are welded up manufactured in China and then shipped over to California.
Yes, we had an offering through Start Engine as we got into our third production run and started introducing other models. We manufacture in a few factories in Taiwan and China, ship to our warehouse in Truckee, CA, and then assembled and ship bikes to customers from here.
I mean i would not assume the company is making the titanium frame sout of htere garage one by one ready to order, but there is a professional level and passion that goes into checking over the frames to making sure it is up to quality
Love my older cannondale made in USA aluminum bikes. Solid ride and can fit a 28c for comfort on rim brakes
thats whjen cannondale made it right
I have a titanium bike too and honestly I choose it for it's looks and that you can sit at the top tube at traffic lights and not have to worry about that and not for the so called titanium-ride-feel; my seatpost is carbon and is superlight so it flexes like crazy, I have a carbon saddle, my handlebar although it doesn't flex it is superlight and made of carbon, my stem is made of carbon and my rims are also made out of carbon, my cranks are aluminium, so I am not that certain if even a titanium bike feel even exists how much of it would be noticeable with all that carbon going on. What you do have is a bike that looks stunning and that you will never grow tired of, every time I look at it my thoughts are "man it won't get more beautiful then that".
I ride two titanium bikes from the brand Van Nicholas, it is really a great ride quality
I had the Van Nicholas Skeron also a few years ago. The problem with that bike was I am between sizes and I went for the Large. Built it myself with SRAM Red eTap. After a little more than a year I had a custom Ti bike made by Strong Fabrications which is the bike I ride now. Dura-Ace Di2 on it. My son is a large so I gave him the VN. He likes it and I like mine.
havnt heard of them
I have a Curve Belgie v.2 frameset still BNIB from years back. Victim of no room/finances since but it was a great discount.
As an engineer, I never understood why titanium as material should have better ride qualities. I think almost always titanium frames are just more flexy/less stiff. Or, of course people want their super expensive boutique bike to ride super nice, when it actually doesn't. But as a material, carbon lends itself just so much more to build an extra smooth riding frame. Steel and titanium have good fatigue properties so when done right you can get away with smaller safety margins compared to aluminium which could result in less material used an therfore less stiff frames. But generally titanium is overhyped especially in terms of performance/stiffness/compliance compared the carbon
You have valid points. I have to agree but for whatever reason I have my titanium bike and will never buy another carbon bike. Titanium ride properties also come down to the builder, they don't all have that plush ride.
lol. It’s unbelievable how easily folks can be manipulated into letting up their hard earned $$. 3.25 Ti and Al have almost the same ExI, so it literally is the same ‘feel’ as an equivalent Al frame (and nearly the same weight). With Ti you’re not getting the weight advantage of CF nor the budget advantage of Al 😂
@@SiliconEngineerbut they last longer right? I was told a gezillion times that aluminum frames don’t age well and will basically « deform » after 10 years or so… I ride several aluminum frames, one since 2018 and it feels great
That is correct, the "magical ride feel" is all marketing and placebo. However, I still want a titanium gravel bike so I don't have to deal with rust, paint damage, rock strikes, etc. and can have custom geometry made for me.
@@SamuelBlackMetalRider Everything has a fatigue life and has nothing to do with years and everything to how you ride it, how heavy you are, hot, cold, humidity, wet, salt (a big one for alloy), heck how often you clean and preform matainance all have a bearing. And that goes for any material. Like you I have an alloy bike a mason, and if that lasts me 10 years that will be great. tbh I suspect you'll change out well before that point due to "industry progression" the next big thing is inertgrated hangers which you are now starting to see on Srams MTB stuff and that will require a new frame eventually if the hangers can't be replaced/converted. such is life
Blackheart fan! 💯👍😎
Thank you! 🖤
They seem to be one of the most modern ti companies out and give a ton of options to
Customers without having to get a classic looking bike
Beautiful!! Can’t wait to see your build! Put some Princeton wheels on that ;)
I have an idea for a build for sure
I hv a Litespeed T1SL and just purchased Spezia F1 fully internal cable routing, both are Di2 Shimano & come under the Madone in weight. I also own Madone SLR Gen 6 Dura Ace and prefer the Litespeeds
Grant, what's up bro. I ride this top quality titanium very similar but from the Haley Cycle out of Colorado. Very familiar with black heart, a few things, you are right about the seat post, do with Enve or Zipps seatpost and bars, go with enve OR FSA 5D ACR.
very nice!!! I cant wait to try this thing out I have never had such a nice fcrame before, and yea the post looked a little cheap but i am going to run it as is to see how it goes
Awesome,hope you can do more Titanium frames or metal bike's in the future,could you make this frame mechanical groupset compatible with zip ties?💯✌🏻🚴♀️
I cant wait, IO am not a fan of zipp wheels but I have some optiuouns for it
I'd love ti frame
shit me too lol
MUST HAVE!
agredd this is a bike I have been loking forward too for a long time
Especially if you ride in bad weather or hot a sweaty like Florida, I grew up there, how many alloy bikes stem and BB took hours to take apart plus paint, clear coat just falls apart. Going back 30 years.
yea I am excited to see hwo tihs thing deals with salt and corrosion
Very,very,very nice bike!
Everyone has heard of Blackheart to it’s all over TH-cam and every bike magazine.
Can you put the new Roval Rapide handlebar on this Ti frame ?
Yes. The frameset comes with an FSA ACR headset, but any integrated barstem with a top cap for a 1.5" bearing will work.
Yes it will work
I'll try it when you're done😁
lol
I have a Haley custom made titanium frame. I don’t see the advantage at all, just that is beautiful to look at. The carbon frames are much more comfortable. That 31.8 seat post is going to create a harsh ride
I thought metal bike fabricators would resist the urge to follow the dubious industry trend for fully integrated cabling. I've even seen a custom steel builder here in the UK jumping on the bandwagon. It looks pretty perhaps and might save the rider a couple of watts, but I'm not sure it's worth the hassle further down the line with servicing, bike fitting, and availability of proprietary parts.
Did hey say : More money❓
🤔💯
more moeny
Titanium!!! Come to the dark side 😉😎 just building up one as well, being fed up with generic carbon.
I cant wait to see how this thing turns out
Nice shift here, to be honest i had enough of Chinese products or supper high end bikes , build this puppy and share honest opinion about how it rides.
I can’t wait. This is a bike build I can not wait to get on. Looking forward to this
im a leisure biker. i dont know specs and performance. i want to have a titanium bike because its beautiful...LOL
Yea it’s
Amazing looking. One of the best titanium bikes on the market
have the size to choose but no geometry for each size
I will let them know but I am usually a 56 on eevry company
Build it! 👍
of coruse
Reginald Scot has been a supporter of titanium bikes for years. He deserves an industry award 👍
Hahhaha yes he has
If anyone’s wondering it’s $3k just for the frame.
Cheaper then carbon frame.....
@surfbumb123 $3K for the frame, ENVE fork, carbon or Ti seatpost, Ti seatpost clamp, thru axles, spare SRAM UDH, and FSA ACR headset. The barstem is +$300.
frame, cabron fork and handlebar and all the fixing to make it work
its gonna feel so good to ride, throw some Berd wheels on it and its gonna hum. Also Please for the love all thats nice in the world do NOT put tan side walls on this beaut.
Beaut
hell eya
What's the max tire width for this frame?
32 rear. Might be able to squeeze a 34 without a fender. The ENVE fork is spec'd as 34.
its a 32
“Jack talk Ti” 😂😂😂
titanium is much less comfortable than carbon, carbon frames usually have upper half made very flexible with UD carbon and have incomparably better compliance than Ti. However, I am amazed by how many ppl hallucinate titanium is more comfortable due to couple of random clueless myths online... Placebo truly does work like magic
I think the owners of titanium bikes are just relieved of the fact when the wind blows your bike over the ti isn't going to crack like a carbon bike would.🤣🤣
@@charlesmansplaining you do understand carbon is stronger? Also longevity is much better with carbon, its not prone to corrosion, and it does not have micro cracks due to thermal expansion, and unlike metal it retains its property for ages, no "metal fatigue". So carbon is both stronger and longer lasting.
Like... Where do you guys read all this weird misinformation? Do you have access to the internet (you obviosuly do)...
@@NiohNiohYT 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I've been around the block. I'm standing behind what I said. You need to find out what is real on you're own. I'm not going to try to prove anything to your dumbass.
@@charlesmansplaining And now he insults and uses a dozen emotes. Did the truth hurt you so much? Sorry about your inferior Ti bike 😁
@@NiohNiohYTCarbon fiber also degrades with time and develops micro cracks. Not the carbon itself, but the resin that holds it together, which is always the weak point of carbon fiber. Bikes often use carbon fiber that is very dry, meaning it has very little resin, because that makes it very stiff and light, but also fragile. Then you have frames damaged by flying gravel off the road and it's also the reason why Evenepoel broke his SL8 in half in a pile up.
What frame size is it?
The frameset in the video is a size 56
@@blackheartbikeco
Thanks!
56 for a big boyyyyy
There was a time I would have lusted after a bike like this. Not anymore.
I am droling over this bike
Made by waltly! Blacheart put a decals to it then made it very expensive!
I do not see anyone else with titanium bikes with this look and the integrated cables
Comment retracted. Confusion with the pricing on my part.
Seems like picking any groupset option shows the price for the full build including wheels
…or just buying a frameset and build your own dream setup 🙌🏽
@keeferification Quick clarification: That's the build pricing, not the groupset. $2,900 for the Rival AXS Build includes the groupset ($1,600 retail), barstem, bar tape, Hunt 34 Aero Wide wheels, Conti GP 5000 S TR tires, and Fizik Vento Argo R5 saddle.
@@blackheartbikeco Gotcha, I see. I'll retract my comment to not pass on any confusion or negative vibes. I'm not the sharpest...
@@keeferification All good! It's not 100% clear on the website. Doing our best to always improve and make things easy for the customer.
Titanium? Meh. IMHO a good aluminium frame has exactly the same performance and is usually lighter. The titanium frame will usually last for a lifetime; but with the amount of stupid design changes that occur why would one want to keep a frame that might be possibly rendered unusable in 5 years.
“Smooth ride” ? Utter bollocks from the marketing dept.
well we wil find out once buit but also I am going to run 28 tires so it should be comfy either way
Italian titanium bike frame like Passoni, Nevi, Tommasini..........
nope I am loving this bike I have it built and it is my main
@@GCPerformance18 To say it looks nice is an understatement...Will you be doing a review on how it rides soon?
first
:))
I think people who rave about how titanium bikes "feel" are having delusions.
we will figure this out at least for me to see how it feels compared to casrbon
There is a KLEIN Titanium Bike?
Get a Bingham
No.
yes
A "titanium" bike with a carbon fork, carbon seatpost, carbon handlebar, and carbon wheels, LMFAO 😂
He could get a TI seatpost. TI forks are a lot less common.
what u want? titanium wheels tintaium ass, titanium hands???
I rode a titanium Litespeed for years. Never really impressed with it. Not bad just nothing exciting. Not super stiff. Not super light. Got a modern carbon bike and noticed the difference immediately. More responsive and stiff in terms of power transfer. If you want durability, titanium all the way. If you're looking for a race bike it's carbon fiber hands down
I like that feedback but also cant wait to get my leg over one to see how it rides