I’m an older gamer, and I like the oled screen and the higher refresh rate it supports as well as all the i/o ports. It’s gonna come down to battery life, vrr support and refresh rate during high stress games, and just how easy it is to use their interface. Ultimately, I’ll wait to see reviews on performance and what next gen looks like for rog ally and legion go. I would love to see what steam deck 2 is gonna look like but it sounds like that won’t be for awhile.
This is the answer. the only reason we buy this chip is for power efficiency. So if your more efficient but reduce battery by 30 whr then are you more efficient? I think not.
@@christianr.5868 unless you plan to play with your hands wrapped in ice packs, you're not getting close to 4090 power for a very long time. 4090 performance pulls 15x apu top power. Would honestly melt the device with current cooling solutions
@@christianr.5868that's a stupid comparison. The switch doesn't support any triple A games of course it can draw 5 watts. These are made to play Triple A games.
@@alvinamana1459 what are you talking about? My point is that back then something that took 150-200 watts to play that generations triple a games. Is now being outperformed by something using 30-40 times less power. And plays that generations triple a games better. The switch does have triple a games from the ps3 and some from the ps4 generation
"Japanese Original ALPS Rocker" and that's an automatic dealbreaker for me. There's absolutely ZERO excuse in 2024 to not use Hall Effect or TMR joysticks in a device that's going to be as expensive as it is. I used to have a Steam Deck and an ROG Ally (original) but one of the games I play the most right now is Street Fighter 6 and I plan on playing some upcoming fighting games as well, and while both devices had no issue playing the games, I didn't like the d-pad on either device for fighting games (I especially loathed the original Ally's.) I enjoyed both devices while I had then but ended up selling the Deck when I got my Ally, and I sold my Ally when I bought my beast of a desktop PC. I still want to buy another handheld PC in the future, but I've been waiting for a device that has everything I'm looking for, and that definitely includes having hall/TMR sticks so I don't have to ever be concerned about stick drift in my roughly $1k device.
got a minisforum v3 tablet so ill hold out until there is hx 370 for the 890m so can play 1080p 20w medium or 30w with plug in power while traveling. oxp f1 pro vs x1 hx 370.....oled vs ips idk
I will stick with my og ally and steamdecks until there is a handheld that has high refresh rate oled screen with hdr 1000 or at least 600 and VRR is MUST, a battery no less than 60wh, 24g ram or above, 2280 m.2 with room for small to mid size heat sink cause pice 4 and above are just run too hot, 2 usb slots and symmetrical joysticks!
I'd love to purchase Rog Ally X even though the it only has incremental upgrades over Rog Ally. The 80WHR battery and 24GB RAM easily makes it future proof, even though it has basically the same hardware as Rog Ally. The AMD Ryzen Z1 Extreme is enough to play AAA games even like GTA 6, that's how powerful it is at 30w. Can't wait for Rog Ally 2 to drop then Rog Ally and Ally X will drop in price!
@christianr.5868 if you understand the size of this device, you'll understand there is no possibility of an 80wh battery. This is a lot smaller than an allyx.
@@christianr.5868once again that depends if someone wants a smaller device . The handheld is beautiful with no bezels which will be immersive mixed with the OLED screen .
this is to long. WTF This APU is on the market long enough to make a new handheld. I’m disappointed that just now we have first handheld. Every company should have ready device
I can’t lie seeing this video makes me want to get it once it comes out
I’m an older gamer, and I like the oled screen and the higher refresh rate it supports as well as all the i/o ports. It’s gonna come down to battery life, vrr support and refresh rate during high stress games, and just how easy it is to use their interface. Ultimately, I’ll wait to see reviews on performance and what next gen looks like for rog ally and legion go. I would love to see what steam deck 2 is gonna look like but it sounds like that won’t be for awhile.
80whr or no buy. Hoping the community can convince one netbook on this one..
This is the answer. the only reason we buy this chip is for power efficiency. So if your more efficient but reduce battery by 30 whr then are you more efficient? I think not.
lol tell that to onexplayer 2 pro this variant is their small lineup
yep i wont ever get any handheld below 70whr ever again lol
What would have 80whr?
@@lykoszero Ally X and MSI claw 8 Ai+
Imagine when we get to the point where a handheld is more powerful than a 4090
@@christianr.5868 unless you plan to play with your hands wrapped in ice packs, you're not getting close to 4090 power for a very long time. 4090 performance pulls 15x apu top power. Would honestly melt the device with current cooling solutions
@ give it like 8 years. The ps3 pulled like 150-200 watts and the switch OLED can you perform it at 5 watts
By Then 4090 will be obsolete 😂😂
@@christianr.5868that's a stupid comparison. The switch doesn't support any triple A games of course it can draw 5 watts. These are made to play Triple A games.
@@alvinamana1459 what are you talking about? My point is that back then something that took 150-200 watts to play that generations triple a games. Is now being outperformed by something using 30-40 times less power. And plays that generations triple a games better. The switch does have triple a games from the ps3 and some from the ps4 generation
The future of portable gaming
"Japanese Original ALPS Rocker" and that's an automatic dealbreaker for me. There's absolutely ZERO excuse in 2024 to not use Hall Effect or TMR joysticks in a device that's going to be as expensive as it is. I used to have a Steam Deck and an ROG Ally (original) but one of the games I play the most right now is Street Fighter 6 and I plan on playing some upcoming fighting games as well, and while both devices had no issue playing the games, I didn't like the d-pad on either device for fighting games (I especially loathed the original Ally's.) I enjoyed both devices while I had then but ended up selling the Deck when I got my Ally, and I sold my Ally when I bought my beast of a desktop PC. I still want to buy another handheld PC in the future, but I've been waiting for a device that has everything I'm looking for, and that definitely includes having hall/TMR sticks so I don't have to ever be concerned about stick drift in my roughly $1k device.
Website says "alps/hall"
This is about everything I want from a handheld. Does anyone know if they have announced vrr support?
I'd consider it if MS came out with a portable OS. Until then, ill wait for deck 2
Moonlight streaming would work at 144hz
I can’t wait for an OLED Ally 2 with the Z2E. would be a huge miss if the next one isn’t OLED, it’s one of the few gripes of the current Ally series
cant wait for next gen of ayaneo love my geek 1s
was sold on it till i saw the battery going to wait for the refresh
It looks beautiful... No bezels plus the oled acreen nice . I have a Rog Ally X but this is tempting .
Next gen chips and consoles coming next year so no point in upgrading now.
@captainrogers2542 yeah you're right. The upgrades are coming too quickly .
@@captainrogers2542yeah and these chips weren’t massive upgrades which points to the next gen having the big feature improvements
@@captainrogers2542my problem wit dat is u can’t avoid dat you would never buy anything
@@KD-wc4rs you are a dummy lmfao
At 80w the radeon 890m will be same as rtx 3050
I personally wait for steamdeck 2, probably valve add all of these goodies and powers to it. 😃
got a minisforum v3 tablet so ill hold out until there is hx 370 for the 890m so can play 1080p 20w medium or 30w with plug in power while traveling. oxp f1 pro vs x1 hx 370.....oled vs ips idk
How much is it p/s tell me
I will stick with my og ally and steamdecks until there is a handheld that has high refresh rate oled screen with hdr 1000 or at least 600 and VRR is MUST, a battery no less than 60wh, 24g ram or above, 2280 m.2 with room for small to mid size heat sink cause pice 4 and above are just run too hot, 2 usb slots and symmetrical joysticks!
Eh. An Ally X + an eGPU to use utilize on both a laptop and the Ally X is the better purchasefor multiple reasons imo.
It's ugly and has a shit screen
No OLED tho. OLED is huge.
I'd love to purchase Rog Ally X even though the it only has incremental upgrades over Rog Ally. The 80WHR battery and 24GB RAM easily makes it future proof, even though it has basically the same hardware as Rog Ally.
The AMD Ryzen Z1 Extreme is enough to play AAA games even like GTA 6, that's how powerful it is at 30w.
Can't wait for Rog Ally 2 to drop then Rog Ally and Ally X will drop in price!
More performance and higher refresh rate is pointless with a small battery and no vrr.
That shit gonna be pricy i just went for onexgpu2 instead for my legion go and msi claw
80w battery or bust
This battery may be just as effective since the higher end apu uses less wattage for equal performance.
@@Exit854but if it had 80 watt hours the battery life would be that much longer
@christianr.5868 if you understand the size of this device, you'll understand there is no possibility of an 80wh battery. This is a lot smaller than an allyx.
@@Exit854 may as well wait for the rog ally 2 then
@@christianr.5868once again that depends if someone wants a smaller device . The handheld is beautiful with no bezels which will be immersive mixed with the OLED screen .
Im good with the legion .
this is to long. WTF This APU is on the market long enough to make a new handheld.
I’m disappointed that just now we have first handheld. Every company should have ready device
They do but it has to do with timing with the market
Theyre marketing it with AI lol
AI is currently useless on AMD because fsr dount use it.