Hey, just wanted to say thanks for the support on this video! My debut has gone well thanks to you guys! Also, I'm aware the bikes are unrealistic - the game is essentially fighting their existence😭 If you'd like, check out my latest video here: th-cam.com/video/1U4pjlYbhfM/w-d-xo.html Thanks again!
This reminds me of Tourist Trophy which is basically Gran Turismo just with motorcycles... Sim racing games should implement a motorcycle version/option for their engines.
The thumbnail looks nice and also the intro to the video, your voice quality is really good and immersive ontop of the gameplay. Reminds me a lot of Sega GT 2002 and the Gran Turismo games.
Heey, i'm not here to start a massacre, but the brakes being poor here is mainly because the game itself can't work properly with this non-car mod. Brakes in motorcycles are very good in general because of the MASSIVE weight difference between bikes and cars (250 kilograms ish VS 1200 kilograms ish). Now if a motorcycle isn't braking as sharp as you should feel in your handlebar, is because there's something affecting it. For example, at 3:57 the guy slammed the brakes (doesn't tell you which one) and the bike doesn't even react to it, not inclinating forward or anything. Despite the fact that, using the front or rear brakes with such fanatism at that speed (talking about this bike) will likely instantly lock up, and get you some nice "physical memories" if you are lucky enough. So, in short terms it isn't because the bike is old, it's just that the game can't simulate a 2 wheels vehicle standpoint, maybe at some point in the future it kinda could, but right now is very far from it.
@@Gustaveichonn you're right for the most part except the ''bikes are really good at breaking'', they are way worse than most performance* cars due to the obvious slim tires
Looks really fun, if not 100% realistic. A few notes. Disclaimer, I'm just basing this on the contents of this video, and I'm not trying to bash the modding team who are doing it for free. Take these as pointers for later improvements. - (This one irks me the most, the others are nitpicky) The steering head movements don't match reality. Turning the bars left will tilt the bike right and initiate a turn in that direction. Mid-corner, unless you're going extremely slowly, the steering head should almost be straight. Counter-steering. - Wind buffeting (i.e. how much it makes the helmet shake) is a lot more severe irl than shown here. The lack of it detracts a bit from the sensation of speed. - The crash physics are comical 😂 They really do give away the fact that the game basically thinks they're cars.
Yeah, motorcycle mods for AC have always been a little more gimmick-y than realistic. They're great fun but if you want actual simulation something like GP Bikes is better. It's already pretty hard to get them working with decent camera movement and AI, but when you do it's still a good time. Maybe one day we'll get fully realistic bike mods for AC, time will tell.
If you're using this kinda mod, I will assume you're probably also using Content Manager. If that's the case, you can mess around with the Neck FX settings in Custom Shaders Patch to get a pretty decent representation of how the biker's head would move and react during the turns, acceleration, g-force and what not. It's worth giving it a try if you have the patience to configure it. There's also a lot of realistic Neck FX presets made by players on the web which you could use as a starting point. The video intro was hilarious. Nice vid.
I know the steering is probably wrong. No idea if the gyroscopic and centrifugal forces are actually affecting it correctly or not, either. I wonder if beam NG could at least get those two factors right.
The motorcycles are pretty jank so I'd imagine it's not taking into account any of the more complex physics - as for BeamNG, maybe? Like it is primarily for cars but it's really detailed so it potentially could.
It's not about gyroscopic forces (those just add resistance to steering inputs) or "centrifugal" one (you'd only experience these if you're part of the spinning wheel and made that your frame of reference). Counter-steering works because turning the front wheel e.g. left makes it want to move left, out of the line between COG and rear wheel. This shifts the contact patch and effectively moves the COG to the right of the line between the wheels, causing the bike to tilt to the right.
@@valinhorn42 if this seems weird to understand, just try to balance a broom from its tip and then try to walk it around like that, it will immediately click
I don't know if the handling characteristics are accurate, but generally you'll see later apexes. Although the AI in this race wasn't allowing that with how they sent it up the inside 😂
If you want a real motorcycle sim experience, try out GP Bikes, (there's even a demo). Being a rider myself, the games physics are extremely good. Just know that you might have trouble making a single lap around the track without crashing at the start. XD Also the brakes must not be done quite right. Motogp bikes can brake faster than literally everything, even F1 cars. And any modern sportbike can outbrake any car on the road.
Tho ONE thing that gets me with all the bikes in any game, no counter steering. This looks sick, and some of the other Assetto footage I've seen is AMAZING! Countersteering is a personal issue though, if you don't ride IRL or you aren't as picky as I am, then it shouldn't be a problem. Solid vid and thank you for showcasing a modded in classic supersport.
Yeah once you learn motorcycling, the most satisfying thing about it is pushing that handlebar to initiate the lean. Controlling my lean angle with a wheel, is gonna feel weird, but I'll try it
if you want to dive into really well made motorcycles games you should try ride 5 for a really good looking and new player friendly game or isle of man TT bit harder but has really good physics. And then you have mx bikes and gp bikes wich get pretty hard once you disable riding helps in game and even more when your disable abs, tcs, anti wheeling on the bike, the last two are the best in terms of physics in dirt or asphalt but lack more in graphics. I don't think assetto is quite there yet with bikes but definitely one of the best games for cars
I'm using an app called touch racer that uses the tilt sensor in my phone to control steering, along with sliders on the touchscreen for throttle and brake. It works well for more detailed steering input, but you have limited options for controls, hence why I can't shift gears.
I used a Moza R5 with Wreckfest and the Ninja motorcycle mod loaded. So much fun. Plenty of feed back during slides. Give it a go if you get the chance.
sadly there is only one way to make this immersive... and that would be to come by and convert one of these old bike-arcade thingies into a "sim-pit". Reason no.1 why I don´t quite get into motorcyle sims/ simcades. Controllers and wheels just don´t cut it.
plus, motorcycles are far more physical than driving cars so getting close to realism is far harder, you'd have to get some pretty advanced motion rig stuff.
Why in all games motorcycles on turning do everything wrong?! On the REAL motorcycle for turning Right, you need to PUSH right handlebar FROM YOU, so the wheel will be turned LEFT! Check what is the countersteering!
I'm using this neckfx preset: acstuff.ru/s/kf3pVW And this mod: mega.nz/file/uDwEALxa#3-z6nfK_6N4pTMp3XwdhrUhTeHJOqUWW6JE9RgdZnbc Or, here's a youtube video with everything: th-cam.com/video/fw_dmKTDWq0/w-d-xo.html
I don't mind the commentary, but talk a little less. Really good content though. Try to make a bike video going through very dense traffic in Shutoko or any other traffic servers and if you can get anyone to be a Cop chasing you will be a chef's kiss.
@@mickeymouze5 this means basically that physics are not realistic. The physics is coded to the vehicles and not to the sandbox world the tracks are located in.
@@Pillokun iirc you can't make a vehicle in assetto with only 2 contact points, so this is most likely another 4 wheel bike with animations to make it look like it's leaning
![ILLSLICK - THE KING'S LANDING [Freestyle]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/feIJJnNkTfk/mqdefault.jpg)
Hey, just wanted to say thanks for the support on this video! My debut has gone well thanks to you guys!
Also, I'm aware the bikes are unrealistic - the game is essentially fighting their existence😭
If you'd like, check out my latest video here: th-cam.com/video/1U4pjlYbhfM/w-d-xo.html
Thanks again!
1:49 the motorcycle is doing WHAT?????
the motorcycles may get a little freaky at night
@@the-c0rqi LMAOOO
This reminds me of Tourist Trophy which is basically Gran Turismo just with motorcycles... Sim racing games should implement a motorcycle version/option for their engines.
The thumbnail looks nice and also the intro to the video, your voice quality is really good and immersive ontop of the gameplay. Reminds me a lot of Sega GT 2002 and the Gran Turismo games.
thanks man! this means a lot - hopefully I can continue to make quality stuff.
Bro got blessed by the algorithm. Good luck on the journey!
thanks man! I'm stoked to make new videos and see where this goes :D
The brakes are likely poor because you're riding a 30+ year old bike
yeah that checks out
Heey, i'm not here to start a massacre, but the brakes being poor here is mainly because the game itself can't work properly with this non-car mod. Brakes in motorcycles are very good in general because of the MASSIVE weight difference between bikes and cars (250 kilograms ish VS 1200 kilograms ish). Now if a motorcycle isn't braking as sharp as you should feel in your handlebar, is because there's something affecting it.
For example, at 3:57 the guy slammed the brakes (doesn't tell you which one) and the bike doesn't even react to it, not inclinating forward or anything.
Despite the fact that, using the front or rear brakes with such fanatism at that speed (talking about this bike) will likely instantly lock up, and get you some nice "physical memories" if you are lucky enough.
So, in short terms it isn't because the bike is old, it's just that the game can't simulate a 2 wheels vehicle standpoint, maybe at some point in the future it kinda could, but right now is very far from it.
Dumbest comment ever
@@Gustaveichonn you're right for the most part except the ''bikes are really good at breaking'', they are way worse than most performance* cars due to the obvious slim tires
@@Gustaveichonn ironically, Live for Speed, a sim from 2002, does it better
After all this time, I had actually forgotten what the vanilla graphics looked like
This as a new Road Rash game 😍
The future here looks promising!
thank you!
Looks really fun, if not 100% realistic.
A few notes. Disclaimer, I'm just basing this on the contents of this video, and I'm not trying to bash the modding team who are doing it for free. Take these as pointers for later improvements.
- (This one irks me the most, the others are nitpicky) The steering head movements don't match reality. Turning the bars left will tilt the bike right and initiate a turn in that direction. Mid-corner, unless you're going extremely slowly, the steering head should almost be straight. Counter-steering.
- Wind buffeting (i.e. how much it makes the helmet shake) is a lot more severe irl than shown here. The lack of it detracts a bit from the sensation of speed.
- The crash physics are comical 😂 They really do give away the fact that the game basically thinks they're cars.
Yeah, motorcycle mods for AC have always been a little more gimmick-y than realistic. They're great fun but if you want actual simulation something like GP Bikes is better. It's already pretty hard to get them working with decent camera movement and AI, but when you do it's still a good time.
Maybe one day we'll get fully realistic bike mods for AC, time will tell.
Not sure I would want to see that "wind buffeting" increased since I don't even notice it irl, maybe an option for scrawny necks? lol idk
If you're using this kinda mod, I will assume you're probably also using Content Manager. If that's the case, you can mess around with the Neck FX settings in Custom Shaders Patch to get a pretty decent representation of how the biker's head would move and react during the turns, acceleration, g-force and what not. It's worth giving it a try if you have the patience to configure it. There's also a lot of realistic Neck FX presets made by players on the web which you could use as a starting point. The video intro was hilarious. Nice vid.
I'm currently using a neckfx preset that comes with the mod, but I might try to edit it a little.
Also, thank you! Glad you found it funny.
You're so good at racing bikes in first person, incredibly hard for me 😭🔥🔥🔥
@@Frilabird the secret is that it took me 5 takes 😭
I know the steering is probably wrong. No idea if the gyroscopic and centrifugal forces are actually affecting it correctly or not, either. I wonder if beam NG could at least get those two factors right.
The motorcycles are pretty jank so I'd imagine it's not taking into account any of the more complex physics - as for BeamNG, maybe? Like it is primarily for cars but it's really detailed so it potentially could.
It's not about gyroscopic forces (those just add resistance to steering inputs) or "centrifugal" one (you'd only experience these if you're part of the spinning wheel and made that your frame of reference). Counter-steering works because turning the front wheel e.g. left makes it want to move left, out of the line between COG and rear wheel. This shifts the contact patch and effectively moves the COG to the right of the line between the wheels, causing the bike to tilt to the right.
@@valinhorn42 if this seems weird to understand, just try to balance a broom from its tip and then try to walk it around like that, it will immediately click
I don't know if the handling characteristics are accurate, but generally you'll see later apexes. Although the AI in this race wasn't allowing that with how they sent it up the inside 😂
If you want a real motorcycle sim experience, try out GP Bikes, (there's even a demo). Being a rider myself, the games physics are extremely good. Just know that you might have trouble making a single lap around the track without crashing at the start. XD Also the brakes must not be done quite right. Motogp bikes can brake faster than literally everything, even F1 cars. And any modern sportbike can outbrake any car on the road.
Hey c0rqi, just wanted to wish you luck on your content creating journey! The algorithim came in clutch today.
thanks man!!! that's really appreciated
Cool showcase! Never knew this existed
@@AdamsApples thanks mate!
Tho ONE thing that gets me with all the bikes in any game, no counter steering. This looks sick, and some of the other Assetto footage I've seen is AMAZING! Countersteering is a personal issue though, if you don't ride IRL or you aren't as picky as I am, then it shouldn't be a problem. Solid vid and thank you for showcasing a modded in classic supersport.
Yeah once you learn motorcycling, the most satisfying thing about it is pushing that handlebar to initiate the lean. Controlling my lean angle with a wheel, is gonna feel weird, but I'll try it
totally agreed! this definitely isn't accurate but it is good fun!
if you want to dive into really well made motorcycles games you should try ride 5 for a really good looking and new player friendly game or isle of man TT bit harder but has really good physics. And then you have mx bikes and gp bikes wich get pretty hard once you disable riding helps in game and even more when your disable abs, tcs, anti wheeling on the bike, the last two are the best in terms of physics in dirt or asphalt but lack more in graphics. I don't think assetto is quite there yet with bikes but definitely one of the best games for cars
Are you using a regular xbox style controller to control or otherwise what? Have you tried in vr?
I'm using an app called touch racer that uses the tilt sensor in my phone to control steering, along with sliders on the touchscreen for throttle and brake. It works well for more detailed steering input, but you have limited options for controls, hence why I can't shift gears.
Liked and subbed so you one day get that wheel hopefully lets go
now try swimming between traffic with it
I used a Moza R5 with Wreckfest and the Ninja motorcycle mod loaded. So much fun. Plenty of feed back during slides. Give it a go if you get the chance.
irl bikes can stop faster then any car cuz of how light they are compared to cars they basically stop as fast as an f1 car if there set up just right
sadly there is only one way to make this immersive... and that would be to come by and convert one of these old bike-arcade thingies into a "sim-pit".
Reason no.1 why I don´t quite get into motorcyle sims/ simcades. Controllers and wheels just don´t cut it.
plus, motorcycles are far more physical than driving cars so getting close to realism is far harder, you'd have to get some pretty advanced motion rig stuff.
Can you assault the other racers? This almost reminds me of road rash
How do physics work?
not very well! they're quite janky when you crash or hit curbs
Why in all games motorcycles on turning do everything wrong?! On the REAL motorcycle for turning Right, you need to PUSH right handlebar FROM YOU, so the wheel will be turned LEFT! Check what is the countersteering!
1:55 like when you see it
*Scotland is British. I presume you meant pretty average town (Which it isn't lol)
how do i download this
I'm using this neckfx preset: acstuff.ru/s/kf3pVW
And this mod: mega.nz/file/uDwEALxa#3-z6nfK_6N4pTMp3XwdhrUhTeHJOqUWW6JE9RgdZnbc
Or, here's a youtube video with everything: th-cam.com/video/fw_dmKTDWq0/w-d-xo.html
I don't mind the commentary, but talk a little less. Really good content though. Try to make a bike video going through very dense traffic in Shutoko or any other traffic servers and if you can get anyone to be a Cop chasing you will be a chef's kiss.
I hate motorcycles in video games. They always suck.
Riding motorcycles is not like this at all.
not realistic at all, look at the handlebars/clippons movement when he is turning... wth
yeah, I don't know much about motorcycles but I figured they might have been unrealistic - assetto was never built for them after all. still fun tho!
Its the first time something other then cars has happened so shouldn't expect 100% when this game was built mainly for vehicles only not bikes.
@@mickeymouze5 this means basically that physics are not realistic. The physics is coded to the vehicles and not to the sandbox world the tracks are located in.
@@Pillokun iirc you can't make a vehicle in assetto with only 2 contact points, so this is most likely another 4 wheel bike with animations to make it look like it's leaning