I am so glad you are liking OpenSuse. The work they have been doing for decades now is objectively excellent, and it has been one of the most underrated and underestimated distributions forever. Having an influential figure like you (did that make you blush? But it's true.) feature their distribution on his channel is important for them.
I use Tumbleweed since 2 years now full time. Could not be happier. What does it for me is Yast and Snapper. Imagine an up to date rolling OS without the need for manual intervention or error solving, being as stable as MacOS or Windows, just ready for everyday use - and with an inbuilt safety mechanism that lets you roll back to the last working state with literally one click in the unlikely case something goes wrong. That is Opensuse. I dont understand why nobody else uses Snapper like Opensuse does stock, after all its open source. They all should do it, Fedora for example. Instead they use (if at all) other weird implementions of snapshotting/rebasing like rpm-ostree, that although Silverblue and Kinoite use BTRFS dont make use of it at all.
"I don't understand why nobody else uses Snapper..." - Because some other users (including myself) are just fine with the /home on a separate partition with EXT4 Journaled or XFS Journaled file systems. We have our experienced reasons to stay classic ;) Personally, I don't use any snapshot system or app at all. They are completely superfluous to me because if something went wrong (very rarely) with the system, I do a fresh install, and in half an hour, I've finished the configuration including the apps. OpenSUSE performs at his best in rolling release mode, and most importantly, after the flatpak integration (that is now included with the last kernel). The real deal, no matter if you are fixated with the snapshot system due to Mac OSX stuff, is Thumbleweed because there are no limits to upgrades and improvements compared to the static releases.
@@sitaroartworks What you do personally is no reason to exclude such a great idea from any distro other than OpenSuse for decades. It would serve anyone, from the newbie busting their first Ubuntu install to the pro whose NVidia drivers went bad again. Just include that stuff, everyone :)
Open Build Service is one of the hidden gems from OpenSUSE. They should promote it much much more as it would be useful to so many opensource projects to build packages for all the major distros at once. Too bad hardly anyone knows about it and then they do not provide packages for so many distros.
@@bu5hm45t3r i'm only using gnome because i have a 2 in 1 laptop and I havent found any other de that offers its level of touchscreen polish lol. Otherwise I'd totally be using something like xfce or kde
one thing about the installer is that after you choose everything you get a summary of whats going to be installed. There you still can change a lot. What software you want to install, or not installed. Network settings, firewall, etc. This installer looks old, but has more options then most installers
Yes, Matt, please do a full YAST video. I've never installed openSUSE, but now looking at this video, I'm really liking the possibilities that this distro might hold for me as an end user. Looks quite promising, actually...
The main reason OpenSUSE is not as advertised as other main distros is that people who actually use it are busy getting things done. Leap and TW are rock solid and don't stand in your way to do your work. I've been running Leap (now TW) on my main machine for years and I've only had few issues (mostly Nvidia related) but could always revert to a snapshot and fix it later when I had free time off work. OpenSUSE is very solid distro, anyone should at least try it. P.S. OpenSUSE cured my distrohoping...
Being on Tumbleweed for about 5 years (Linux user since 2007) as my main desktop. I use it for my work when I want to avoid getting my work laptop and for my personal stuff.
Tumbleweed feels more stable than most of stable distros due to dedication of testing team before release (culture). BTW, openSUSE/KDE user here since 2005.
SUSE's openQA plays a key role there. Achieving that level of stability in something that moves so fast is only possible thanks to the hundreds of openQA automated tests that are applied to each Tumbleweed snapshot.
AFAIK, Open Build Service allows developers to make or create packages for other distros with this automated system or service, the cool thing about Open Build Service is not only that it can make or create the package, it can also automatically test it for bugs or possible issues with that package like if it were a human developer or package tester, cheers!
I often use the discover app when i'm looking for a package. It's like an appstore. Not everything is in there, but it helps a lot when you want a software for something and want more than just the description of the package and its depedencies, there's user feedback, ratings, screenshots. Realy helpful stuff.
I spent about 2 years on opensuse, and just recently switched to endeavor. Opensuse was great -- but the primary reason was because of the forums. I have decided that the forums are THE most important aspect, because sooner or later I will probably be interacting with it. At opensuse, they are nice, knowledgeable, and helpful; this is not the case with many other distros. Endeavor seems pretty good in this regard too, but the main reason I switched was because of the package manager stuff you talked about. It isn't just the syncing that is faster. It downloads stuff faster too. It seems to download about 4 things at the same time. Not to mention the implementation of AUR (my only previous experience with this was with Manjaro -- shudder!) is good enough that it basically feels like a regular package. This makes the total amount of available packages WAY bigger than other distros (at least the ones I have tried). And, I would rather use ARCH than flatpak / snaps. The AUR is also better in that it does not invoke extra repos like opensuse / debian based things (I assume Fedora, too, but it's been too long). Anyway, my thoughts. Thanks for the review.
Being a relatively noob linux user myself, i actually found openSUSE tumbleweed to be an impressive experience so far. Definitely in my personal top 3.
Thanks, I switched to Tumbleweed a few months ago, really been impressed with everything overall. Like any new/different setup it does take some time to figure out how to do certain things,. Made some mistakes here and there setting some things up, but so many of the odd weird smallish issues I noticed and dealt with while working on other distributions just vanished on OpenSUSE. Been refreshing to be using such decently up to date(rolling release) stuff, yet minus the other problems that can occur. No issues at all so far except ones I created.
Started with Ubuntu years ago, but dual boot with Win was quite messy and unstable. So, at some point I tried OpenSuse and seemed little more stable dual booting with Win. Fast forward to today: Win is long gone (never switched to Vista), and OpenSuse is still there, on all my machines because... well, because it works. If it works, no need to fix it.
I always like openSUSE. I used openSUSE Leap with KDE and it's the best KDE default setup I think. The same as Netrunner having a great KDE default setup.
Funny that this was released today, I just returned to Tumbleweed after distrohopping a trillion times including Vanilla Arch, I just love Opensuse and yast.
Suse was one of my very first distros, back in 1998. A few days ago, another TH-camr talked about openSUSE Micro OS and I downloaded it, with the intention of trying it out when I'm done with my current projects.
Installed/fired up a Tumbleweed VM today in HyperV, and I was quite impressed! So impressed, that I might be tempted to try this bare metal on my N5105-based miniPC, but, I fear I would just be facing yet another 'no audio out of HDMI to TV' scenario...(no audio for Fedora, Ubuntu 23.10, or MInt)
You should do a video on Yast. It is one of the reasons why I never considered using opensuse, and if you made a video, I would learn a lot about it and I might be much more inclined to try it out.
I just think they should work on the ootb experience more, the installer is still slow and there are issues with HIDPI, also their ootb version of KDE just isn't impressive, like it's stock KDE but with a new boring wallpaper and ships with an optional OpenSUSE theme that literally looks broken. If they can fix that up and market Tumbleweed as a rolling release, daily driver similar to Arch, I think it would gain a ton more popularity.
Thank you for the video. Please show YAST in the terminal and in an SSH connection next time. zypper dup is for Tumbleweed and zypper up is for Leap - you can roughly compare this how and why one uses apt full-upgrade in *Ubuntu and apt upgrade in Debian stable…
An other Yes, Matt. A dedicated video on YaST would be appreciated. As you stated, so many of the Distros have desktop similarities, but this is one ,I believe, many should be exploring.
I remember hearing my buddies in high school talking about Suse. We were trying to figure out of is was pronounced Suse, or Suse. twentysomething years later, I still never tried it.
I've been using openSuSE as my main desktop since it was SuSE 7.3. Thanks for giving the chameleon some love! Type sudo yast in a bash term... another cool yast feature!
Love Tumbleweed, it's miles better than Arch (at least in my experience) and feels extremely polished while also providing the latest packages. YaST makes installing new desktops or other software trivial with patterns, and the power of having a GUI system administration tool can't be overstated when the alternative is so often searching Google and rolling the dice with support forums on other distros.
Tumbleweed allowed me to finally ditch windows. It was the first distro I was able to get all my favourite games running. The only issue I had was occasionally I would have no sound on bootup but if I rebooted then everything would work fine.
I would totally watch a TH-cam channel by some kind of lawyer that would review terms of services from operating systems and web apps, clarifying the legalese and condensing it all into easily digestible bullet points with relatable real-life examples. I have read the Opensuse TOS, and it was all very innocuous. I don't know that they could get rid of it legally, but I feel like there is nothing in there that isn't what we all actually come to expect from a Linux distro by now (you can't sue us if your sh*t breaks, etc.)
The TOS is there for GDPR compliance, anyways first thing to do is "zypper install opi" then run "opi codecs" That will setup both the packman repository and setup your system with codec support. Also the parody songs on their TH-cam channel are the best.
@@TheLinuxCast that is true, the TOS was there before GDPR (or at least before it was enforced by it). Not sure why it is needed but to be there they probably have a good reason for it. You know avoiding trolls that may sue them for something stupid
@@TheLinuxCast It's actually to comply with United States EAR, you can actually see it being mentioned in the license text. But I don't really think they need to have it there at all, Fedora does have to comply as well and don't have a TOS on the installer AFAIK.
I’ve been using Linux for a very time, since the 90s and out of all the distros I’ve used, openSUSE is the only distro that has almost always worked out of the box. Even back when wireless was pain in the butt due to being integrated, back when openSUSE was just SuSE Linux, some how my wireless worked, when it wouldn’t work on any other major distro. openSUSE has been my main distro since initial release in 2005, before that SuSE Linux from around 1996-2005. Every time I upgrade my computer, on goes openSUSE. When I want experiment with different distro, I use a spare computer.
My distro-hopping illness is starting to come back (and this after watching Matt's video "The Final Destination" just a day ago haha), right now on a Debian stable based distro, and I'm really contemplating on trying out openSUSE. I have not fully decided yet. Is Leap a good choice if you don't need the latest software? How less "stable" is Tumbleweed compared to Leap? Because I've heard that Tumbleweed is supposed to be a very stable rolling-release distro, does it really matter as much in openSUSE?
yes you can start using leap and then if you want and feel like doing so you can then upgrade from leap to tumbleweed following the instruction provided on the openSUSE forums, just keep in mind that you cannot revert from tumbleweed to leap back again, hope this helps, cheers!
you can speed it up a tad bit on mirror sorcerer if i remember correctly it will switch the mirrors from eroupean to us side server wont be as quick as most but its a faster install the only thing after it for me that feels slow is the install and bulk download load. Best of luck and thanks for the video.
I wonder if there is a comprehensive guide on what we definitely need to do after a fresh installation in terms of drivers, non free software, repositories, codecs etc? I was never accustomed to the suse ecosystem.
I never use any of the standard package manager syntax, regardless of base distro. I just add aliases to my .bashrc file. Example: alias install='sudo pacman -S' in Arch based distros alias install='sudo apt install' for Debian/Ubuntu based. I actually take it one step further and replace install with the letter i ... easy peasy
Been using OpenSuse as a gaming desktop OS since the early 2000s. I really dont understand why more people arent using it for a desktop OS. Yast makes a lot of tasks easy, coming from Windows originally this made learning so much easier. You can add repos via yast , add packages, change network settings and lots more as stated. Its also extremely performant in gaming for all the graphical eye candy that's running by default. Steam runs great in standard and VR modes.
Can't even get it installed on my old laptop, which I typically use as a testbed. "Boot from mbr does not work together with btrfs filesystem ang gpt disk label without bios_grub partition. To fix this issue, - create a bios_grub partition, or - use any Ext filesystem for boot partition, or - do not install stage 1 to MBR." Seems like the partitioner, using the guided setup, is not actually creating a proper boot partition to actually install the bootloader. I don't know if that's strictly an issue with old mainboards but it's certainly not a great first (and probably last) impression. And I was almost about to be stoked about the fact that it allows for an easy separate home partition, which is usually lacking from the other installers.
@@TheLinuxCast No idea. Tried it on my desktop and it worked, but then even just switching the resolution down to 1080p wasn't possible as it stretched the entire screen in a small part of the middle of my monitor. So that was a very short lived and negative experiment for me. The hopping continues I guess.
Back when I first learned about linux I was familiar with Ubuntu. I wanted to be "Special" so I installed Open Suse. OpenSuse is not bad (from my experience) but i misses SO MANY user friendly marks. Just getting a youtube video to play in OpenSuse is a chore. As much I loved the "freedom" (you dont have to click yes to any software packages you dont want to) it misses the mark in so many "Normie" categories (Full discoluser. Normie software is the future IMO)
6:27i would love to see a video about yast!. i am using opensuse for about 2 weeks now(used fedora before for 1.5 years) and i tinkerd a bit with yast but there was a lot of things i didn't fully understand
Pacman's -S(ync) is referring to installing/synching from online sources, hence makes perfect sense and imho pacman has much better command names than apt etc, think upgrade && install etc, plus too darn long - It's little like complaining about vim's awesome commands, just takes little dedication, like own keybinds, that's all, which isn't a bad thing in my book. Thanks for vid, didn't knew anything about opensuse, so informative.
For myself when I was choosing a distro for my new station it came down to Fedora or OpenSUSE. I went with Fedora for various reasons but OpenSUSE is a really great system, not for all but should be seriously considered if you are looking for a OS.
No, it's all a GUI. Not the prettiest installer, but it gets the job done. Maybe not the most intuitive, but if you click enough buttons you'll see everything.
Some points: - It not only allow to install any DE, it has what's called "Patterns", which you can change your DE in whatever moment you want. - No way that the installer is bad as the Fedora one. NO WAY. It's not the best, it's a bit technical, but is better than Fedora and Debian IMO. - What's the problem of the ToS on the installer? In what point it should be presented? I mean, if it's there, is because they need to have one, so better early than later. - The package naming can be a pain, but this happens in many distros so it just need to get used to. - One important thing is that how fast it gets new packages, some times it's the first distro to receive the update. I don't use it anymore but I have a lot of kindness to the distro, it's so overlooked and I sincerely don't get why, people keeps recommending a lot of smaller and unknown projects, while they don't even know about it. I don't use it not because of issues as I had only one: it created so many snapshots which used all my / space and then it start to show errors. I switched because as I said, it's too updated, it can have updates with more than a GB many times a week. So rolling distro isn't for me, so I'm now on Fedora, which has updated packages but with faaaaaar less frequency. Maybe I'll give OpenSUSE Aeon a try later
Great video. Thanks! 🙂 When you were installing and setting up Tumbleweed, did you encounter any issues that would have been difficult for a Linux newbie to resolve and fix? Any issues that required a Google search or forum question to resolve? Newbie being someone with no familiarity with the terminal or terminal commands. Thanks! Cheers. 🙂
No, nothing like that, it was easy. Maybe not the easiest installer, but it wasn't hard. no terminal work, everything is very well explained. IDK if openSUSE is the best new user distro, but that's just because it can be a little complicated post install. Also I didn't install it on a laptop, so I didn't have to worry about wifi drivers, and I use an AMD card, so I didn't have to worry about Nvidia nonsense. So if you have either of those in your PC, you may want to read up on how to do that before you jump in,
@@TheLinuxCast Cool. Thanks for the info! 🙂 I was finally able to get QEMU/KVM installed and I got Tumbleweed installed as a VM. I'm now playing around with it. I mostly want to learn how the Tumbleweed Btrfs snapshots work. I'm thinking of switching from my Ubuntu 22.04 to Tumbleweed cuz I want to use Btrfs snapshots. I got a pretty powerful AMD laptop. So far haven't had any big issues getting Tumbleweed set up; so far it's noob friendly. Thanks for the great videos! 🙂
Suse is great, and i say this as debian guy. Only reason for me to use Debian is this: I like to build my systems from sacrach more or less, Debian provides that, or also that. With suse I have to striped down my system after i install it. But In terms of tools to manage packages and system it self, debian is light years behind suse. Yast 2 in cli , zypper. Man i love this shit
Are you using OpenSuse on bare metal ? And if so, do you use an nvidia RTX graphics card ? Because i only get a black screen after install, just like debian.
Tried openSUSE about a year ago (I believe Leap) and found it to be the slowest distro I've used in the 20 years I've been using gnu/Linux. I liked it, don't get me wrong but the waiting drove me away. Hopefully that has changed, but by the sounds of it things are still slow.
hi linux cast its funny that you talk about openSuSe i've install it 4 day ago on ext4 because I don't need btrf and all trouble about the slower of zypper i like it a lot. Nice independant europeen distro.
I use openSUSE tumbleweed on my main PC, it's 0retty good. I like it, but damn is it weird. I have to keep reminding myself that tumbleweed isn't "arch rolling" therefore it's better not to do a "dup" command every day. Aside from random breakages from updating too hastily, it's very comfy and slightly exciting with its uniqueness.
As I said before, their delivery of software over the internet to where I am is VERY SLOW. That includes installing, updating, upgrading, etc. OpenSUSE is abandoning its Leap. Perhaps improvements are coming, but it's hard to see how the Linux desktop is really that important to them. It looks like you are onto the right trend with OpenSUSE on the desktop, as what will replace Leap will probably come from Tumbleweed and the success that they have with it. Many do say it is one of the best rolling releases possible.
Gecko. Pure Open Suse but better. Easy install, polished....... And you can choose an ISO with you preferred DE, tumbleweed or leap, or maybe Leap with OBS up to date packages. The same developer made Spiral Linux for pure Debían easy install and configure.
OpenSuse seems like a different animal from Arch, Debian, or Fedora, but it seems interesting. Not a fan of any sort of TOS myself because of Windows. I would like to see a video of Yast.
You confuse OpenSuse with SLES(Suse Linux Enterprise Server) Never worked on Enterprise servers with OpenSuse. Most uses are CentOS, RHEL, VMWare ESXi, Citrix, SLES and ProxMox in that order. No way enterprises would choose OpenSuse Over the above mentioned systems.
I am not much of a tech person but from a strange twist of fate i use OpenSuse Leap (Former win11 user). Yast? never used it. Zypper? What is that? OBS? Like ABS or similar?... What will it change if i use tech that i may need to sacrifice ten goats to make it work on my laptop? Nope. Too complicated for me. 😁 Discover and KDE settings are just fine....
xbps is quite weird, but I like it, even though I don't used void on any of my machines currently. I like boot screens too much and could not for the life of me get that working...
@@CouldBeMathijs I use arch, void, gentoo on my old laptops, and windows/slackware on my main laptop. I think portage is the best package manager from all the distros i've tried over the years since 2001. But binary and source based distros are so different so if i only compare binary based ones, i think xbps is one of the best (even though it might not be the very best) xbps-install, xbps-remove, xbps-query etc being different commands is very advantageous for being an organized, fast and tidy package manager.
I've really developed an appreciation for xbps and the separation of commands it provides, it's just a shame void is so chronically out of date in spite of being rolling release. xbps-src can't really make up for it like the AUR does because the main repository is gatekept.
@@mckendrick7672 i honestly wouldn't want void to be as cutting edge as arch, i think they serve different purposes, however i also agree and i don't want it to be this out of date either.
The MPC story's why i never give opensuse a longer shoot because i can never find the package i want. I might give NIX or VOID a try soon with FreeBSD and another shoot to Haiku. Been using Arch for a while and i am curious.
I tried Opensuse for 2days and had to go back to manjaro. My problem are 1. Preinstalled games 2. Lack of softwares availability or too much stress getting softwares 3. Broken bluetooth driver, I have to sign in every time I restart my laptop. 4 weird startup after grub page.
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Thanks for this. It's exactly what I expect from a distro review.
I am so glad you are liking OpenSuse. The work they have been doing for decades now is objectively excellent, and it has been one of the most underrated and underestimated distributions forever. Having an influential figure like you (did that make you blush? But it's true.) feature their distribution on his channel is important for them.
I use Tumbleweed since 2 years now full time. Could not be happier. What does it for me is Yast and Snapper. Imagine an up to date rolling OS without the need for manual intervention or error solving, being as stable as MacOS or Windows, just ready for everyday use - and with an inbuilt safety mechanism that lets you roll back to the last working state with literally one click in the unlikely case something goes wrong. That is Opensuse.
I dont understand why nobody else uses Snapper like Opensuse does stock, after all its open source. They all should do it, Fedora for example. Instead they use (if at all) other weird implementions of snapshotting/rebasing like rpm-ostree, that although Silverblue and Kinoite use BTRFS dont make use of it at all.
"I don't understand why nobody else uses Snapper..." - Because some other users (including myself) are just fine with the /home on a separate partition with EXT4 Journaled or XFS Journaled file systems. We have our experienced reasons to stay classic ;) Personally, I don't use any snapshot system or app at all. They are completely superfluous to me because if something went wrong (very rarely) with the system, I do a fresh install, and in half an hour, I've finished the configuration including the apps. OpenSUSE performs at his best in rolling release mode, and most importantly, after the flatpak integration (that is now included with the last kernel). The real deal, no matter if you are fixated with the snapshot system due to Mac OSX stuff, is Thumbleweed because there are no limits to upgrades and improvements compared to the static releases.
@@sitaroartworks What you do personally is no reason to exclude such a great idea from any distro other than OpenSuse for decades. It would serve anyone, from the newbie busting their first Ubuntu install to the pro whose NVidia drivers went bad again.
Just include that stuff, everyone :)
Open Build Service is one of the hidden gems from OpenSUSE. They should promote it much much more as it would be useful to so many opensource projects to build packages for all the major distros at once. Too bad hardly anyone knows about it and then they do not provide packages for so many distros.
been using openSUSE with gnome as my laptop daily driver and honestly it's the best "just works" distro i've tried
mee too, it just works.. currently im using xfce with i3wm
@@bu5hm45t3r i'm only using gnome because i have a 2 in 1 laptop and I havent found any other de that offers its level of touchscreen polish lol. Otherwise I'd totally be using something like xfce or kde
Love me some Tumbleweed
one thing about the installer is that after you choose everything you get a summary of whats going to be installed.
There you still can change a lot.
What software you want to install, or not installed.
Network settings, firewall, etc.
This installer looks old, but has more options then most installers
Yes, Matt, please do a full YAST video. I've never installed openSUSE, but now looking at this video, I'm really liking the possibilities that this distro might hold for me as an end user. Looks quite promising, actually...
Why do you need a video for Yast? Just install suse and go for it
I installed opensuse through the well thought Geckolinux spin. KDE version is highly polished. Please do cover Yast!
The main reason OpenSUSE is not as advertised as other main distros is that people who actually use it are busy getting things done.
Leap and TW are rock solid and don't stand in your way to do your work. I've been running Leap (now TW) on my main machine for years and I've only had few issues (mostly Nvidia related) but could always revert to a snapshot and fix it later when I had free time off work.
OpenSUSE is very solid distro, anyone should at least try it.
P.S.
OpenSUSE cured my distrohoping...
I endorse all your words!
As far as I can see, OpenSUSE is the best Linux distribution available today.
Tumbleweed loyalist checking in
Being on Tumbleweed for about 5 years (Linux user since 2007) as my main desktop. I use it for my work when I want to avoid getting my work laptop and for my personal stuff.
Tumbleweed feels more stable than most of stable distros due to dedication of testing team before release (culture). BTW, openSUSE/KDE user here since 2005.
SUSE's openQA plays a key role there. Achieving that level of stability in something that moves so fast is only possible thanks to the hundreds of openQA automated tests that are applied to each Tumbleweed snapshot.
AFAIK, Open Build Service allows developers to make or create packages for other distros with this automated system or service, the cool thing about Open Build Service is not only that it can make or create the package, it can also automatically test it for bugs or possible issues with that package like if it were a human developer or package tester, cheers!
Started using Suse in about 1996. Using MXLinux these days but used it for many years.
As a German, I of course say: "Zis is weri gut!" ❤
I often use the discover app when i'm looking for a package. It's like an appstore. Not everything is in there, but it helps a lot when you want a software for something and want more than just the description of the package and its depedencies, there's user feedback, ratings, screenshots. Realy helpful stuff.
I spent about 2 years on opensuse, and just recently switched to endeavor. Opensuse was great -- but the primary reason was because of the forums. I have decided that the forums are THE most important aspect, because sooner or later I will probably be interacting with it. At opensuse, they are nice, knowledgeable, and helpful; this is not the case with many other distros. Endeavor seems pretty good in this regard too, but the main reason I switched was because of the package manager stuff you talked about. It isn't just the syncing that is faster. It downloads stuff faster too. It seems to download about 4 things at the same time.
Not to mention the implementation of AUR (my only previous experience with this was with Manjaro -- shudder!) is good enough that it basically feels like a regular package. This makes the total amount of available packages WAY bigger than other distros (at least the ones I have tried). And, I would rather use ARCH than flatpak / snaps. The AUR is also better in that it does not invoke extra repos like opensuse / debian based things (I assume Fedora, too, but it's been too long). Anyway, my thoughts. Thanks for the review.
Being a relatively noob linux user myself, i actually found openSUSE tumbleweed to be an impressive experience so far. Definitely in my personal top 3.
Thanks, I switched to Tumbleweed a few months ago, really been impressed with everything overall. Like any new/different setup it does take some time to figure out how to do certain things,. Made some mistakes here and there setting some things up, but so many of the odd weird smallish issues I noticed and dealt with while working on other distributions just vanished on OpenSUSE. Been refreshing to be using such decently up to date(rolling release) stuff, yet minus the other problems that can occur. No issues at all so far except ones I created.
Started with Ubuntu years ago, but dual boot with Win was quite messy and unstable. So, at some point I tried OpenSuse and seemed little more stable dual booting with Win.
Fast forward to today: Win is long gone (never switched to Vista), and OpenSuse is still there, on all my machines because... well, because it works.
If it works, no need to fix it.
I always like openSUSE. I used openSUSE Leap with KDE and it's the best KDE default setup I think. The same as Netrunner having a great KDE default setup.
Funny that this was released today, I just returned to Tumbleweed after distrohopping a trillion times including Vanilla Arch, I just love Opensuse and yast.
Outside of some small issues I had getting games to work, OpenSuse has been one of the best distros I’ve ever tried
Suse was one of my very first distros, back in 1998. A few days ago, another TH-camr talked about openSUSE Micro OS and I downloaded it, with the intention of trying it out when I'm done with my current projects.
Yes we're niche yet we still exists and most importantly, we are happy end users. Thanks for addressing openSUSE
Installed/fired up a Tumbleweed VM today in HyperV, and I was quite impressed! So impressed, that I might be tempted to try this bare metal on my N5105-based miniPC, but, I fear I would just be facing yet another 'no audio out of HDMI to TV' scenario...(no audio for Fedora, Ubuntu 23.10, or MInt)
You should do a video on Yast. It is one of the reasons why I never considered using opensuse, and if you made a video, I would learn a lot about it and I might be much more inclined to try it out.
I just think they should work on the ootb experience more, the installer is still slow and there are issues with HIDPI, also their ootb version of KDE just isn't impressive, like it's stock KDE but with a new boring wallpaper and ships with an optional OpenSUSE theme that literally looks broken.
If they can fix that up and market Tumbleweed as a rolling release, daily driver similar to Arch, I think it would gain a ton more popularity.
Thank you for the video. Please show YAST in the terminal and in an SSH connection next time.
zypper dup is for Tumbleweed and zypper up is for Leap - you can roughly compare this how and why one uses apt full-upgrade in *Ubuntu and apt upgrade in Debian stable…
Yes please do an in-depth, thorough review/ instruct of Yast.
An other Yes, Matt. A dedicated video on YaST would be appreciated. As you stated, so many of the Distros have desktop similarities, but this is one ,I believe, many should be exploring.
I remember hearing my buddies in high school talking about Suse. We were trying to figure out of is was pronounced Suse, or Suse. twentysomething years later, I still never tried it.
I've been using openSuSE as my main desktop since it was SuSE 7.3. Thanks for giving the chameleon some love! Type sudo yast in a bash term... another cool yast feature!
Love Tumbleweed, it's miles better than Arch (at least in my experience) and feels extremely polished while also providing the latest packages. YaST makes installing new desktops or other software trivial with patterns, and the power of having a GUI system administration tool can't be overstated when the alternative is so often searching Google and rolling the dice with support forums on other distros.
Tumbleweed allowed me to finally ditch windows. It was the first distro I was able to get all my favourite games running. The only issue I had was occasionally I would have no sound on bootup but if I rebooted then everything would work fine.
I would totally watch a TH-cam channel by some kind of lawyer that would review terms of services from operating systems and web apps, clarifying the legalese and condensing it all into easily digestible bullet points with relatable real-life examples.
I have read the Opensuse TOS, and it was all very innocuous. I don't know that they could get rid of it legally, but I feel like there is nothing in there that isn't what we all actually come to expect from a Linux distro by now (you can't sue us if your sh*t breaks, etc.)
Hobby Linux user and i always come back to Suse. I dont know what it is but their implementation of KDE and tools like Yast just feels right.
You must have read my mind, just yesterday I was searching whether you had a video on OpenSuse!
The TOS is there for GDPR compliance, anyways first thing to do is "zypper install opi" then run "opi codecs"
That will setup both the packman repository and setup your system with codec support.
Also the parody songs on their TH-cam channel are the best.
The TOS were there.long before GDPR existed. At least I'm pretty sure.
@@TheLinuxCast that is true, the TOS was there before GDPR (or at least before it was enforced by it). Not sure why it is needed but to be there they probably have a good reason for it. You know avoiding trolls that may sue them for something stupid
@@TheLinuxCast It's actually to comply with United States EAR, you can actually see it being mentioned in the license text. But I don't really think they need to have it there at all, Fedora does have to comply as well and don't have a TOS on the installer AFAIK.
I’ve been using Linux for a very time, since the 90s and out of all the distros I’ve used, openSUSE is the only distro that has almost always worked out of the box. Even back when wireless was pain in the butt due to being integrated, back when openSUSE was just SuSE Linux, some how my wireless worked, when it wouldn’t work on any other major distro.
openSUSE has been my main distro since initial release in 2005, before that SuSE Linux from around 1996-2005. Every time I upgrade my computer, on goes openSUSE. When I want experiment with different distro, I use a spare computer.
Great Video. One quick question: Which symbol theme do u use? (see 11:56 folder symbol). Searching for this for a while. Whats the name?
I used OpenSUSE when I took a Linux course in College and it was a good distro when I used it.
My distro-hopping illness is starting to come back (and this after watching Matt's video "The Final Destination" just a day ago haha), right now on a Debian stable based distro, and I'm really contemplating on trying out openSUSE. I have not fully decided yet. Is Leap a good choice if you don't need the latest software? How less "stable" is Tumbleweed compared to Leap? Because I've heard that Tumbleweed is supposed to be a very stable rolling-release distro, does it really matter as much in openSUSE?
yes you can start using leap and then if you want and feel like doing so you can then upgrade from leap to tumbleweed following the instruction provided on the openSUSE forums, just keep in mind that you cannot revert from tumbleweed to leap back again, hope this helps, cheers!
you can speed it up a tad bit on mirror sorcerer if i remember correctly it will switch the mirrors from eroupean to us side server wont be as quick as most but its a faster install the only thing after it for me that feels slow is the install and bulk download load. Best of luck and thanks for the video.
I wonder if there is a comprehensive guide on what we definitely need to do after a fresh installation in terms of drivers, non free software, repositories, codecs etc? I was never accustomed to the suse ecosystem.
Thanks for the OpenSuSE review! Lol. Great video, like always.
I never use any of the standard package manager syntax, regardless of base distro. I just add aliases to my .bashrc file. Example:
alias install='sudo pacman -S' in Arch based distros
alias install='sudo apt install' for Debian/Ubuntu based.
I actually take it one step further and replace install with the letter i ... easy peasy
Terms of service nerd here yes I usually read those are glance over them at least.
Been using OpenSuse as a gaming desktop OS since the early 2000s. I really dont understand why more people arent using it for a desktop OS. Yast makes a lot of tasks easy, coming from Windows originally this made learning so much easier. You can add repos via yast , add packages, change network settings and lots more as stated. Its also extremely performant in gaming for all the graphical eye candy that's running by default. Steam runs great in standard and VR modes.
2 weeks using opensuse kde in my server and it's pretty fine really fast even running in a 10y hardware
Can't even get it installed on my old laptop, which I typically use as a testbed.
"Boot from mbr does not work together with btrfs filesystem ang gpt disk label without bios_grub partition. To fix this issue, - create a bios_grub partition, or - use any Ext filesystem for boot partition, or - do not install stage 1 to MBR."
Seems like the partitioner, using the guided setup, is not actually creating a proper boot partition to actually install the bootloader. I don't know if that's strictly an issue with old mainboards but it's certainly not a great first (and probably last) impression. And I was almost about to be stoked about the fact that it allows for an easy separate home partition, which is usually lacking from the other installers.
You probably need to use gpt and uefi.
@@TheLinuxCast No idea. Tried it on my desktop and it worked, but then even just switching the resolution down to 1080p wasn't possible as it stretched the entire screen in a small part of the middle of my monitor. So that was a very short lived and negative experiment for me. The hopping continues I guess.
Have you reviewed Gecko Linux? OpenSUSE with LXQt and some QoL packages.
Complex for beginners, but relatively easy compared to Arch and Gentoo!
Back when I first learned about linux I was familiar with Ubuntu.
I wanted to be "Special" so I installed Open Suse.
OpenSuse is not bad (from my experience)
but i misses SO MANY user friendly marks.
Just getting a youtube video to play in OpenSuse is a chore.
As much I loved the "freedom" (you dont have to click yes to any software packages you dont want to)
it misses the mark in so many "Normie" categories
(Full discoluser. Normie software is the future IMO)
6:27i would love to see a video about yast!. i am using opensuse for about 2 weeks now(used fedora before for 1.5 years) and i tinkerd a bit with yast but there was a lot of things i didn't fully understand
Man, I have installed all kinds of packages from the OBS Software site with no errors. It's strange you're having issues.
It was just that install. I have no issues now.
Pacman's -S(ync) is referring to installing/synching from online sources, hence makes perfect sense and imho pacman has much better command names than apt etc, think upgrade && install etc, plus too darn long - It's little like complaining about vim's awesome commands, just takes little dedication, like own keybinds, that's all, which isn't a bad thing in my book. Thanks for vid, didn't knew anything about opensuse, so informative.
How do you make the arrow key in your prompt when using JetBriansMono?
It's a nerdfont. The theme I'm using comes from ohmyzsh
great video! I'd love to see a video on YAST
opi is an incredible tool for working with Packman and OBS.
Thanks for doing this, LC. Iove OpenSuse
I was curious and I searched the song that appeared in neofetch... Banger
I'm just glad you pronounce it right lol
For myself when I was choosing a distro for my new station it came down to Fedora or OpenSUSE. I went with Fedora for various reasons but OpenSUSE is a really great system, not for all but should be seriously considered if you are looking for a OS.
I’m thinking of switching from Ubuntu to Tumbleweed. During the Tumbleweed install process, is it possible to put /home in a separate partition?
Yup. There's an option during partitioning.
@@TheLinuxCast Great. Thanks! So I don't need to run any CLI for this? I can create the separate partition during install using a GUI?
No, it's all a GUI. Not the prettiest installer, but it gets the job done. Maybe not the most intuitive, but if you click enough buttons you'll see everything.
@@TheLinuxCast Good news. Thanks! :)
I use it for few days. Pretty good (barebone hyprland)
Some points:
- It not only allow to install any DE, it has what's called "Patterns", which you can change your DE in whatever moment you want.
- No way that the installer is bad as the Fedora one. NO WAY. It's not the best, it's a bit technical, but is better than Fedora and Debian IMO.
- What's the problem of the ToS on the installer? In what point it should be presented? I mean, if it's there, is because they need to have one, so better early than later.
- The package naming can be a pain, but this happens in many distros so it just need to get used to.
- One important thing is that how fast it gets new packages, some times it's the first distro to receive the update.
I don't use it anymore but I have a lot of kindness to the distro, it's so overlooked and I sincerely don't get why, people keeps recommending a lot of smaller and unknown projects, while they don't even know about it.
I don't use it not because of issues as I had only one: it created so many snapshots which used all my / space and then it start to show errors. I switched because as I said, it's too updated, it can have updates with more than a GB many times a week.
So rolling distro isn't for me, so I'm now on Fedora, which has updated packages but with faaaaaar less frequency.
Maybe I'll give OpenSUSE Aeon a try later
openSUSE is a very good distro, both of it's versions, Leap And Tumbleweed, I've used both in the past for some time, now I'm using Debian!
Great video. Thanks! 🙂 When you were installing and setting up Tumbleweed, did you encounter any issues that would have been difficult for a Linux newbie to resolve and fix? Any issues that required a Google search or forum question to resolve? Newbie being someone with no familiarity with the terminal or terminal commands. Thanks! Cheers. 🙂
No, nothing like that, it was easy. Maybe not the easiest installer, but it wasn't hard. no terminal work, everything is very well explained. IDK if openSUSE is the best new user distro, but that's just because it can be a little complicated post install. Also I didn't install it on a laptop, so I didn't have to worry about wifi drivers, and I use an AMD card, so I didn't have to worry about Nvidia nonsense. So if you have either of those in your PC, you may want to read up on how to do that before you jump in,
@@TheLinuxCast Cool. Thanks for the info! 🙂 I was finally able to get QEMU/KVM installed and I got Tumbleweed installed as a VM. I'm now playing around with it. I mostly want to learn how the Tumbleweed Btrfs snapshots work. I'm thinking of switching from my Ubuntu 22.04 to Tumbleweed cuz I want to use Btrfs snapshots. I got a pretty powerful AMD laptop. So far haven't had any big issues getting Tumbleweed set up; so far it's noob friendly. Thanks for the great videos! 🙂
Suse is great, and i say this as debian guy. Only reason for me to use Debian is this: I like to build my systems from sacrach more or less, Debian provides that, or also that.
With suse I have to striped down my system after i install it. But In terms of tools to manage packages and system it self, debian is light years behind suse. Yast 2 in cli , zypper. Man i love this shit
Are you using OpenSuse on bare metal ?
And if so, do you use an nvidia RTX graphics card ?
Because i only get a black screen after install, just like debian.
I do use it on bare metal as you say but I have an amd card.
Try xfce4. My guess it is a Wayland problem
Tried openSUSE about a year ago (I believe Leap) and found it to be the slowest distro I've used in the 20 years I've been using gnu/Linux. I liked it, don't get me wrong but the waiting drove me away. Hopefully that has changed, but by the sounds of it things are still slow.
Do a video on micro os or 'Aeon ' as it is called nowadays.
Thank you for saying it properly: guh-nome
In your honor I’m giving OpenSuse TW a spin. I’d like the in-depth YAST coverage
#rambleOn
hi linux cast its funny that you talk about openSuSe i've install it 4 day ago on ext4 because I don't need btrf and all trouble about the slower of zypper i like it a lot. Nice independant europeen distro.
The best stable distro!
YAST is priceless!
YaST is incredible. Why is it not standards on all Linux distros in the known universe?
I use openSUSE tumbleweed on my main PC, it's 0retty good. I like it, but damn is it weird.
I have to keep reminding myself that tumbleweed isn't "arch rolling" therefore it's better not to do a "dup" command every day.
Aside from random breakages from updating too hastily, it's very comfy and slightly exciting with its uniqueness.
As I said before, their delivery of software over the internet to where I am is VERY SLOW. That includes installing, updating, upgrading, etc. OpenSUSE is abandoning its Leap. Perhaps improvements are coming, but it's hard to see how the Linux desktop is really that important to them. It looks like you are onto the right trend with OpenSUSE on the desktop, as what will replace Leap will probably come from Tumbleweed and the success that they have with it. Many do say it is one of the best rolling releases possible.
Sorry. I do not read each comment. Did you try cnf mpc or something like that (in terminal)?
Just try: cnf mpc .
Yes, please do a video on YAST
Please make a video dedicated to Yast! Amazing content!!
This TOS is basically: "If you do dumb stuff it is on you"
Gecko. Pure Open Suse but better. Easy install, polished....... And you can choose an ISO with you preferred DE, tumbleweed or leap, or maybe Leap with OBS up to date packages. The same developer made Spiral Linux for pure Debían easy install and configure.
OpenSuse seems like a different animal from Arch, Debian, or Fedora, but it seems interesting. Not a fan of any sort of TOS myself because of Windows. I would like to see a video of Yast.
You confuse OpenSuse with SLES(Suse Linux Enterprise Server) Never worked on Enterprise servers with OpenSuse. Most uses are CentOS, RHEL, VMWare ESXi, Citrix, SLES and ProxMox in that order. No way enterprises would choose OpenSuse Over the above mentioned systems.
Yeah, that was a mistake, I knew those were different things.
You might be able to do a series on Yast
I am not much of a tech person but from a strange twist of fate i use OpenSuse Leap (Former win11 user). Yast? never used it. Zypper? What is that? OBS? Like ABS or similar?... What will it change if i use tech that i may need to sacrifice ten goats to make it work on my laptop? Nope. Too complicated for me. 😁 Discover and KDE settings are just fine....
Maybe talk about Tiling?
I want a dedicated video on YaST!
Yep vid on Yasi GVM.
i don't think pacman syntax is weird, actually i find it quite intuitive.
especially comparing to xbps and portage.
Oh, come on, lol. Comparing anything to portage is completely unfair. --ask --verbose --whatever --please --make --it --stop. lol
xbps is quite weird, but I like it, even though I don't used void on any of my machines currently. I like boot screens too much and could not for the life of me get that working...
@@CouldBeMathijs I use arch, void, gentoo on my old laptops, and windows/slackware on my main laptop. I think portage is the best package manager from all the distros i've tried over the years since 2001. But binary and source based distros are so different so if i only compare binary based ones, i think xbps is one of the best (even though it might not be the very best) xbps-install, xbps-remove, xbps-query etc being different commands is very advantageous for being an organized, fast and tidy package manager.
I've really developed an appreciation for xbps and the separation of commands it provides, it's just a shame void is so chronically out of date in spite of being rolling release. xbps-src can't really make up for it like the AUR does because the main repository is gatekept.
@@mckendrick7672 i honestly wouldn't want void to be as cutting edge as arch, i think they serve different purposes, however i also agree and i don't want it to be this out of date either.
Do Yast please!
The MPC story's why i never give opensuse a longer shoot because i can never find the package i want. I might give NIX or VOID a try soon with FreeBSD and another shoot to Haiku. Been using Arch for a while and i am curious.
your the man going to install bookworm next month
I already have bookworm installed.
@@TheLinuxCast I have to wait until this project is over don't want to risk anything going bonkers
Open suse naming….. ah logical af fedora package names are actually sensebile.
i cant run amnezia in opensuse)) its work fine in mint or manjaro )
Opensuse installer is the slowest of all distros.
I'd like the Yast videos yessir!
I tried Opensuse for 2days and had to go back to manjaro. My problem are 1. Preinstalled games 2. Lack of softwares availability or too much stress getting softwares 3. Broken bluetooth driver, I have to sign in every time I restart my laptop. 4 weird startup after grub page.
+1 for YaST video