I think a lot of commenters aren't getting the actual fallacy involved with whataboutism. The original issue isn't resolved prior to changing the subject. It needs to be resolved first, then the next topic can be brought in (when it's not being used as a diversion tactic).
Whataboutism is not, however, showing people to be ideologically inconsistent. For example, pointing out how the U.S. invaded Iraq after they criticize Russia for invading Ukraine and vice versa would go to show that neither have any real principles.
It's whataboutism. The USA's invasions have nothing to do with the conversation. And NO one ever stated that they support one kind of imperialism and hate the other. You just love to suck off Putin
Putin actually singed multiple treaties in which he promised he would'nt commit economic coercion on Ukraine or invade them. Also, Russia actually cooperated with the US during the Irak war... so yeah. 😊
It depends. If you say that a policy is not effective you should provide a better alternative. If you are only deflecting is whataboutism. Pd: if you care about global policy, you could take as an example the COP28. Sure, COP28 is not very effective, but now we have another conversation, like how to make an enforcement of the compromises taked in the convention.
From reading the comments section, It seems that people dont like to reflect on their own negatives and came up with a word to deflect on their own bad actions. How about you reflect instead and take ownership.
Isn’t tu quoque specifically pointing out that your opponent does what they’re saying is wrong? Which falls under whataboutism but doesn’t cover the same spectrum
"it's a made up word"
As opposed to words that exist in nature
Literally reddit consist of mostly this.
Stay away from Reddit if you can
I think a lot of commenters aren't getting the actual fallacy involved with whataboutism. The original issue isn't resolved prior to changing the subject. It needs to be resolved first, then the next topic can be brought in (when it's not being used as a diversion tactic).
Whataboutism is a juvenile media term for equal protection under the law which is a well known concept in Anglo-American constitutional law.
...And now in english?
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What-about-ism is a kiddy news term for the same protection under the rules, a basic thought in American law.
Understood?
The politics of whataboutery is well known here in the North of Ireland. The politicians are masters of it. Love this Channel btw
Whataboutism is not, however, showing people to be ideologically inconsistent. For example, pointing out how the U.S. invaded Iraq after they criticize Russia for invading Ukraine and vice versa would go to show that neither have any real principles.
It's whataboutism. The USA's invasions have nothing to do with the conversation. And NO one ever stated that they support one kind of imperialism and hate the other. You just love to suck off Putin
People who do that might as well mention the WW2 German invasion of Russia
anyone who accuses you of whataboutism just wants you to undermine yourself without undermining themselves for the same deed.
Don't drink and post you could get hurt.
Putin actually singed multiple treaties in which he promised he would'nt commit economic coercion on Ukraine or invade them.
Also, Russia actually cooperated with the US during the Irak war... so yeah. 😊
Is it whataboutism to reply that 90% of the plastic in the oceans is from Asia, and that banning plastic bags in the USA will not help?
It depends.
If you say that a policy is not effective you should provide a better alternative.
If you are only deflecting is whataboutism.
Pd: if you care about global policy, you could take as an example the COP28.
Sure, COP28 is not very effective, but now we have another conversation, like how to make an enforcement of the compromises taked in the convention.
10 percent of such a big number absolutely helps. So yes, that is whatavoutisn at its finest, or unfinest
Sometimes you gotta say “it was wrong when we did it 50 years ago and it’s wrong they’re doing it today”
From reading the comments section, It seems that people dont like to reflect on their own negatives and came up with a word to deflect on their own bad actions. How about you reflect instead and take ownership.
Why did Trump's podium have the British coat of arms lol
He’s not even allowed to go to Britain
@@jan-owennugent1932 uh, he is lol
This is feminisms core strategy
Yes
textbook example of whataboutism right here. 😂 Oh the irony!
Drivel. Learn what feminism is.
@@j.a.8970the comment is just a stereotypical joke
This comment is literally whataboutism
What? Explainity explaining pub gibberish now?
There’s nothing made up about it!
pro-Palestine supporters when an mother grieves over their child than worrying about a bunch of strangers:
Average men in Feminist posts😂
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Personally, I don't like the term whataboutism.
Tu quoque is the correct term.
But yes, whataboutism sounds much more catchy than tu quoque.
Isn’t tu quoque specifically pointing out that your opponent does what they’re saying is wrong? Which falls under whataboutism but doesn’t cover the same spectrum
@@SilverSlugs16 You're correct. Tu quoque is a type of whataboutism but does not encompass all forms of whataboutism
Trump is one of your great presidents and I'm a black guy
He is our only hope at this point.
Oh and R.I.P. Kobe and Gigi! 😢