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What is the answer if I own a game physically or if I bought a game in the eShop and they closed it how can I play the game that I have purchased in the past?
Honestly, I no longer give a damn about Nintendo, as I don't support them as a company and haven't bought any products since the 3DS era. That being said, even a broken clock is right twice a day, and yes, this guy seemed to be asking for it, so maybe this was his desired outcome, who knows? If anything, I would like to see others follow his example, in a more anonymous way of course, as anytime someone sticks it to Nintendo, I consider it a good day.
@@paullucciwell, that depends, remember how the wii u didn't sell and was a huge failure? could be the same with the switch 2 if it's just a stupid gimmick system again.
@@kingvon0125 Actually, if you have a physical edition of the game, you do own your copy (which is entirely different than owning the copyright). This principle is established in law by the right of First Sale. Digital copies, though, are another story. The law hasn't really caught up to them yet, but case law suggests that they are non-transferable at this point in time. Of course, statutory law could be drafted to clarify what your exact rights with digital copies are. Regardless, the product or encryption key is not copyrightable, but that is not really the issue. It's not the product key itself that is illegal to distribute; it's the act of defeating copy protection in order to make copies (or make copies usable) that is illegal. (Whether it's legal for otherwise legal purposes, like emulating your own legally obtained games, is debatable.) By the way, media companies have been promoting the idea for a number of years that a license is necessary to use media. That is not actually the case. Copyright law does not require a license to read a book, watch a movie, or use a piece of software. A license is only required to do something that would otherwise be prohibited by copyright law (like installing software on multiple machines for multiple users, or showing a movie to groups of people (especially large groups) for commercial purposes).
Bob Wulff's point on the wording regarding circumventing copyright protections as part of the suit is a big problem. I agree with him. It's emulation. They are attempting to set precedence to lean on.
Plot twist. This guy was paid by Nintendo and this is just giving them cause to get favorable court precedent they can use down the line. Don't REALLY believe that but honestly, I wouldn't even be a little bit surprised either.
@@StachelyPigglyBottom it’s political maneuvering. There’s no real answer that will ever come up more than Nintendo is playing a long game. They set each win up to help with the next one. Mod chips, emulator, use of emulator…The only thing they haven’t been able to sue for is the ability to create a backup. And the idiocy of Japanese copyright wit my allowing patents to be granted after the fact when several games use Pokémon like mechanics after nearly 30 years, but they need to show how big their muscles are to everyone. It’s a nightmare
@@StachelyPigglyBottomThey don't need to pay anyone, there are enough stupid people out there thinking they can get away with stuff like streaming illegally downloaded games if it gets them some views. Or maybe just to stick it to Nintendo idk
As long as you're not sharing files, they don't have a case. Not sure about streaming it but just downloading isn't going to get you sued. Nintendo also can't take back the previously opensource software, any further development under a new license, sure, but everything prior is and always will be opensource. Everyone that contributed would also have to agree to the license change. If Nintendo decides to use that code in the future, they could get themselves into some legal hassles. Also, ResetEra, yikes.
@@glovedcop69 people are going to have to change otherwise in the end the only reason the ultra rich and their corporations screwed us all over is because not enough of us didn't bother to stand up and fight back. "many hands make light work" if we unite.
every new emu users actions are going to do this i have no intention to gate keep but new users into emulation are ruining it for everyone the rules were simple you use the emulators you play the games and you shut the hell up about the grey area now youve got morons who are making tutorials on youtube telling people what rom sites to use (huge nono) where to download the bios's and other shit sharing that infos fine but you either A) keep that info private on a 1 to 1 basis with people or B) you nudge the user in the right direction in google for how to find those grey area files its how the community survives take downs by keeping our sources quiet then idiots came along and 1 by 1 all the great rom sites got nuked
The switch is never getting proper full emulation. The community can not stop themselves from publicly antagonizing Nintendo every time a new project gets started, bragging about pirating games, and giving explicit directions to get bios files and roms. I never want to defend a corporation, but this scene deserves all the legal hellfire that keeps coming its way
@@Sarge92 There used to be unspoken rules between the grey market and the games industry but due to this wannabe influencer mindset or whatever that's going on these days, some people just have to release/stream games before the launch date and for what? 5mins of notoriety, getting sued, and ruining it for everybody else. Then you have people who can't think critically and blame Nintendo for protecting their own IP when the problem has always been these clowns trying to make some name for themselves which no one will remember. People should be angry at these clowns instead of propping them up like a lighthouse. Even the guy who is acting the scapegoat for having to pay Nintendo millions of dollars was his own fault. He was caught previously, he got a slap on the wrists, he continued his activates, got caught again, and this time the judge made an example of him for f'ing around and finding out because apparently finding out the first time wasn't enough. Like come on, we all know what kind of water these are, let's not act dumb here.
@@Supremo801 Maybe stop using corporate communication channels (discord) and corporate development platforms (github, gitlab, etc.) I feel like all Nintendo's actions will accomplish is cause a lot of people to find out what TOR is.
If nindo can track you IP they might, but that's an unreliable method of finding people when IPs can be spoofed. That said it isn't as if they wouldn't be dicks enough to try.
to be fair, nintendo shouldn't be antagonized for suing someone who begged for it, but they ABSOLUTELEY SHOULD for all the Fan Projects they got cancelled (OOT in Unreal engine which wasnt even supposed to be a game but just a proof of concept, Romhacks and all that stuff) , their terrible hardware (Joycons for example), poorly optimized games (Pokemon Scarlett & Violet for example), their awful online infrastructure, not having an account system for their digital storefronts before the switch forcing you to repurchase games multiple times if you wanted to play them on multiple platforms (for example virtual console games on the WII, WII U & 3DS) and all the other crap they pulled over the years like the Smash Bros leak, Garry Bowser and Yuzu.
People were laughing when I suggested that Nintendo would not stop going after emulation. The obvious next step is automatic rom deletion using legal viruses.
Compatibility/translation layer WINE (Wine Is Not an Emulator). These are different emulators emulate original hardware translation layers translate system calls.
@@FanTheDeckWhat is the answer if I own a game physically or if I bought a game in the eShop and they closed it how can I play the game that I have purchased in the past?
You: Hey Nintendo, any chance you will make this old game run in your new hardware, or re-release the 30 year old console it ran on? Nintendo: NO and if you try to make it run we will SUE YOU!!
@ I said, THIS guys an idiot, not surprised he is being sued. But the rest of my comment relates to Nintendos MO. It sucks, they hold o to their IP, don't make new games, don't remaster them, don't release them or make them playable on newer systems. And threaten anyone who dares emulate them.
I went looking for the actual US Copyright law language for circumvention. They have language in there that suggests that the copyright office can do an evaluation every three years to determine if circumvention for specific stuff would be required to allow rightful owners continued ability to consume the copyrighted content they own. Not a lawyer here, especially not one versed in US copyright law, but that would suggest to me that legal circumvention for taking backups could be explicitly pushed for after the end-of-support cycle for any console.
I'm guessing you must be pretty young if you think that a litigious video game company is anywhere near as bad as oil companies, weapons manufacturers, venture capitalists, etc.
@soviut303 it depends on how you view worst. I haven't seen oil companies suing people for trying to use there own products. I don't see weapon manufacturers suing there own customers when they want to mod a gun to do what they want. These other companies run as you could expect them to. What they make maybe bad, but the companies are not so hostile to people who are or want to be customers. Not young, just not lumping and categorizing companies based on a different criteria than you are apparently.
@@robertsharp1511 Yeah, man. A game company protecting its IP is definitely worse than a company making billions every year selling death machines. Drone striking civilians? Who cares. Let's talk about the real issues: I want to play Nintendo games on PC. In all seriousness, a physical item, like a gun, is not software, so... false equivalence. You agree to terms of service with every piece of software you purchase. Included in those terms is language explaining that you agree to not duplicate or distribute that software. Whether or not you agree with it, Nintendo is completely within their rights to litigate over this stuff.
So Nintendo are saying you are circumventing TPM's which you would have to do originally with a physical Switch Originally. So are they saying people are not allowed to repair, or technically do not fully own the physical devices? If so wouldn't that then open them up to legal action by prevent people fully owning the devices which they have paid for? Instead they wouldn't owners be technically renting/licencing the physical devices.
Exactly. They are trying to get the rights of the digital copyright holder to supersede the rights of the owner has over their physical product thus making the digital license apply to the physical product. So yes, Nintendo is saying that the customer technically doesn't own the physical device and are only purchasing a revocable license to the product. Because in the US you have the right to make backups of physical media you own and technically that should also include a copy the Switch's firmware & product key data stored on the device. What Nintendo is saying at every turn is "No you don't" even if you don't circumvent any TPMs and only are making legal copies of encrypted software & data.
It's unenforceable to stop _every_ person from modifying the hardware they think they own (if you read the EULA from most game systems you technically don't but no one really does.) All Nindo thinks they have to do is attack enough people to stem the tide. It's the same thing the RIAA did going after music pirates. Hit random people with multiple millions of dollar lawsuits and scare others away from doing it too.
Hey, have you done a video on steam decks desktop mode yet? I feel like a lot of people buy the deck as a budget pc and hook it up and an in depth on the experience would probably help a lot of users. Great vid as always
Pirating games that aren't event released yet is exactly why Nintendo went after the emulators. If people could have kept a lid on it, they'd be fine. But they can't help but be heat scores. I hope the clout was worth it for these idiots.
Regarding Nintendo’s recent actions on emulation, this is the only solution: *All types of intellectual property (IP) laws must be fully abolished immediately, in any and all jurisdictions worldwide.* All IP laws are extremely unethical for humankind. Against Intellectual Monopoly is the most informative book humanity has on the subject now. Against Intellectual Property is _another_ incredible essay, but it’s written with right-libertarian rhetoric so if you’re, like me, not right-libertarian you’ll have to read with an open mind and extract the essential info. _Only_ these two texts are the gold standard when it comes to intellectual property.
Then that leaves zero protection for the little guy. It would allow big companies to steal someone's IP. Libertarian ideals always seem to forget that the big rich guy still holds the most power if you remove laws and regulations.
Quite certain Gary Bowsers case was in Canada, so legal precedent would have to be set in the US. Granted this guy was asking for trouble, no Nintendo isn't scanning PC's to find your copy of Yuzu or Ryu, but don't go posting pics online.
I don't emulate Switch games, but it really seems like it's only a matter of time before they go after anyone emulating any Nintendo game, no matter how old.
@@Sly2Cooper Braindead answer. You can't tell sales numbers for games like pokemon emerald in modern day. People will emulate till the heat death of the universe regardless of its legality.
Ok so from a conspiracy theory standpoint I have to ask how well known is this guy? As I’ve never heard of them but there are lots of people I’ve never heard of. Basically my headspace is thinking (along with like 30 other thoughts about this topic) is this guy a plant? I mean big studios have been pushing this stuff for ages but no one was willing to pick up the other end and take it to trial as 1 most streamers don’t have the cash to fight any of the big companies but 2 their all worried that the case may go against streamers making the DMCA and copywrong system even worse, now to date no studio has pushed it to trial but what if this was Nintendo’s plan, now of course it is but the conspiracy theory part is, is this guy a double agent working with Nintendo (yes I know it’s farfetched but Nintendo has probably spent more money on marketing campaigns that they will on this trail and in there mind they will get far more back.
If Nintendo would resell the old games like twilight princess, luigis mansion 1 and wind waker, we wouldn't need to resort to emulation. I'm not going to pay scalpers for a old copy of a game.
Yeah, there is a fine line where I say that you shouldn't pass if you don't want Nintendo to legally have to do something and I feel that person has in fact passed skipped over and completely ignored that line.(aka deserved)
I do believe the punishment was a little overboard, but im also gonna play devil's advocate and say that he was kind of asking for it. He was not only streaming pirated emulated games but these games weren't released yet (which i feel like was the main problem here) and he was also mocking Nintendo saying "we can do this all day" and stuff. Again i don't believe this punishment was entirely deserved, but i also believe that if you are constantly poking a sleeping bear thats really only half asleep, and you keep poking it when it wakes up, then you can't blame anyone but yourself for the bear attacking you.
Dude had it coming. At the end of the Day it don't matter how u or I feel about piracy. It's illegal and they have every right to come after you if they want.
Section 1201 of the Copyright Title is part of the DMCA addendum to copyright law. It clearly makes it illegal to defeat copy protection measures in order to distribute copies illegally (which is a violation of copyright at any rate, but this gives them another charge to hit you with). Whether it makes it illegal to defeat copy protection for purposes that would otherwise be legal is debatable in many cases. There is a provision for the Librarian of Congress to clarify that in certain cases it is legal, and there are several things that have been clarified and have gotten renewed every two years. The last I knew (and I doubt this has changed) it had not been clarified that defeating copy protection to emulate legally obtained games was legal. So the legal argument for emulating Switch games for your private enjoyment would be that as long as the games aren't being pirated, It's OK to defeat the copy protection. The Switch itself has to defeat the copy protection in order for you to play the game anyway. Is the intent of the law to create media that only works on approved devices, or is it to stop copyright piracy? In any case, the defendant here doesn't really have a leg to stand on, and seems to be a great fool. (Of course, conspiracy theorists could claim that this whole thing is set up to strengthen Nintendo's position on emulating Switch games). Edit: By the way, you can make a very strong argument (pretty much ironclad) that once Nintendo stops selling devices that defeat the copy protection on Switch games, then it becomes definitely legal to defeat it yourself for otherwise legal purposes. However, this still doesn't make distributing copies of the software legal.
I had to comment about Rivals of Aether 2, I have been playing that game with the girlfriend for the past few weeks, it's absolutely awesome! If you ever wanted to play a smash Bros that is less random chance and more competitive skill. Definitely give it a try!
I don't think you can claim any fork that contains only the code which has been open source at some point is not legal to use going forward, as long as that use matches the license it was released under. Unless you can prove that 'open source' code was stolen proprietary code so could not be genuinely open source in the first place anyway. So the Big N buying out an opensource project gives them ownership of that work, and the right to change the license for future revisions of that body of code, but not a legal right retroactively change the previous versions or go after forks that do everything correctly to the terms of the original licence - you'd have to credit the original code sources most likely, which would now link back to the project owned by the Big N, but... Though I am not a lawyer, and there are many open source license things are commonly released under.
So, circumvention of DRM (easier to understand, as that's what the community already uses to refer to it) by an individual is not really actionable by Nintendo. It's the selling of modding software. The important thing about Nintendo v. Bowser is that he was selling access to the mods. Doing things in your own home, for yourself, is not something Nintendo can sue you for. And FOSS modding projects aren't going to be sued either (because frankly, who do you sue? The original author? FOSS licenses usually protect the authors from bullies like Nintendo). The issue will _always_ be the exchanging of money for goods and services that violate the DMCA. That's the only leg Nintendo has to stand on. And we know this because those are the cases Nintendo goes after. Yuzu _was_ breaking the DMCA with paid early access to a version of their emulator that was able to support TotK earlier than the street date, which both encourages and profits off piracy, _and_ implies a selling of DRM circumvention methods. Gary Bowser/Team Xecutor was _selling_ Switch mods, no other modded Switch software has been sued like Gary Bowser was, because everyone else is (hopefully) smart enough to make the connection. Money is what drives the lawsuits. Stop selling piracy.
The keys on your own switch should be yours you bought that switch and should own the system and the software running on it period pulling your own singular copy of whatever it is shouldn’t be illegal that’s like suing someone for modifying the software on their own car or home
Nintendo going after piracy never bothered me. I get it, can't be getting games that are for sale for free. I always felt like owning a copy of the game opened up the exception for having rom backups. I bought this game and I want insurance for 10 years from now when my hard copies begins to fail. But now they're saying emulation is illegal. Emulation is an important insurance for my purchases, so I know I can play my games 10 years from now. And now more than ever I'm hurting from games I miss with no modern replacements. So I'm once again feeling like I'm dropping Nintendo permanently. I already haven't bought any Switch games in several months, and haven't touched my Switch in a couple months. I understand why others don't want to make this plunge, but for me this is the final of several nails in the coffin from Nintendo. Over the past several months I've swung back and forth on whether I'd really drop Nintendo from my gaming. I already mainly play on PC, and after the sale a month ago I got a Steamdeck. Every time I start to swing back like oh maybe I'll get Metroid Prime 4 , or maybe I'll end up getting a Switch 2; stories like this happen and swing me right back the other way. Going after the Melee community, going after Palworld, going after TH-camrs. It's pathetic. Basically Nintendo keeps convincing me to never buy their consoles or games again. It's too bad they insist on being dickheads.
Yes absolutely boycott them, but the problem is you don't own the games you "buy" technically. This has been the biggest problem. The consumer applies the same logic to a game that they apply to a car or a hamburger, but the EULAs and ancient digital copyright laws allow the corporations to claim your purchase is only a _lease,_ whether you posses a hard copy of it or not. They own the code on that media and that they can pull that lease whenever they feel like it. The digital laws from ages ago made provisions for you to make one or two copies for the sake of maintaining your access the the leased content, like ripping music CDs to MP3 for backups, but you had to do it yourself rather than downloading them for the law to protect you. Of course the laws a convoluted and full of jargon that people don't really pay attention to, otherwise Digital distribution would never have gotten as far as it has. You use a Switch to circumvent and use the content because it's "the only" device that should be able to do it. Nindo's claims is using "anything else" other than their device to circumvent protection is breaking not only their EULA but also the law. Emulation is just being made the whipping boy because so many people (in Nindo's estimation) are simply downloading the content and using it without Nindo getting their pound of flesh. Emulation might be legal (for now) but Nindo is swinging wildly trying to swat illegal flies and that's were the slippery slope lies. The funny thing is the more they swat at them the more they're pushing people away and in some cases creating the very thing they're fighting.
No, they're not. Suing individuals for emulation is ridiculous. Nintendo is hurting us all. I have been a huge Nintendo fan for my entire life, and I dislike them now.
This guys an idiot, but with emulation as a whole... Nintendo are the ones to blame, sorry, they have a truckload of old IP's people want to play, and they do NOT sell them or make them run on their new hardware. So people emulate as it's the ONLY choice they have, or they can try and make a 30 year old console work...
I really don't get these punishments, even if the dude obtained the game illegally the punishment only makes sense for 50 x 60 or that would be around 3,000$ so at most 6,000$ Even with the console that isn't going to breach 10,000$ The dude is streaming games, this is going to improve sales and make Nintendo money. This isn't going to scare people away from emulating, if anything this will just drive people to do it more because Nintendo keeps on upsetting people. Nintendo itself is the problem.
Loved the little speech about not showing any Nintendo games during the video ... while showing footage of Pal World 🤣 Nintendo sucks! I wasn't a big player of their games anyway, but I'm probably not going to buy another one or console. I have a Steam Deck, so I won't miss their games 😉
Not exactly, the more people like this they stomp on the more power they get because they can point to each an every infringement as a reason to go into courts and try to take away the ability to emulate, legal or not.
Conspiracy theory here, if the dude didn't had many viewers what if he was hired by Nintendo to be their escape goat and try to turn emulation illegal? 'cause how the hell would they find about him if he wasn't that expressive in terms of public/followers/viewers?
I feel the only times I have heard Nintendo’s name being brought up lately; soley about one lawsuit or another. But yeah this guy is probably not surviving this fine which is a sad thought.
I don’t have a problem with emulating old unsupported software. But I am 50/50 on emulating current hardware. Like if it’s the 3Ds or early: piss off nintendo, you ended support, why do you care. If it’s current hardware (especially pre release stuff): I kinda get it, it’s stuff they don’t wanna anyone to see yet. But I am a boycotter because BDSP and SV were so bad for me, I just don’t even touch my switch anymore since 1 week after SV’s release. Game was so bad for me.
If they take ownership of the code and then remove it from opensource platforms like Github, then it's theirs to do with as they see fit. Just because thousands of free copies exist, that doesnt change the fact that they own it, it just makes it easy for people to distribute something Nindo claims ownership of.
Why you are only here on TH-cam about Nintendo getting butt hurt over emulated games and not other companies I tried to emulate some Nintendo switch games but it did not work and I finally figured out mine. The emulator that I needed was yuzu but I heard on TH-cam that that one had been taken down by Nintendo and that was before I even knew what it was so I guess Nintendo took this down to keep new people like me from emulating their Nintendo switch games that they’re trying to sell for overpriced money since their games have never really gone on sale like other companies do I have a Nintendo switch but I haven’t played it in a while and I haven’t bought any games in a while. I was just looking through my closet the other day and I found my old 3DSXL I actually found one of the games that I wanted to play. It was a legend of Zelda game so I have the physical game but I didn’t remember I bought it so I was trying to emulate it but if I couldn’t get it to work, I was just gonna buy it because it’s still available I never really played legend of Zelda until breath of the wild came out because I thought all of the older games were top down view, and I hate those types of games
I know that most users don't like it, but this shows you that Nintendo is right about emulation - 95% of Nintendo Switch emulator usage is piracy. There might be a few people who actually use it to play games they actually own, but vast majority of users just play pirated roms.
What is the answer if I own a game physically or if I bought a game in the eShop and they closed it how can I play the game that I have purchased in the past?
Nintendo is in the right on this one. But at the same time this still falls on them. Why? Well Nintendo has a huge problem and they aren’t doing anything to prevent it. Switch games have no software preventing the game to be dumped and they have a problem keeping there games from breaking street date. Sony and Xbox don’t really have this problem. It does happen to them but not like Nintendo.
imagine being a company that people instead of liking it just causes fear whoever it roams!!! GOOD JOB Nintendo! you just passed the Distopian-vive Check! i have a friend that uses the steam deck to emulate all the nintendo switch he owns.. and that's the keyword, he owns all those games and also, obviously, the switch itself so i'm not sure if he would care that much about that possible sue xD which is just stupid like mad-crazy stupid, because there's no F* way that they track the emulators, because that would classify as spreading malware and stealing personal data (and a few other human rights) and also the amount of money they ask is just way way way off the chart. like i need to use astronomic units to measure how stupidly far they have reached xD if nintendo begins to sue individuals they will end bad... astronomically bad.
I honestly hope Nintendo gets shutdown in court over this. IMO, I shouldn't be legally liable to the fact that they can't not leak their software, and circumventing security measure on a device I own for my benefit shouldn't be illegal either. Just like I'm allowed to pick the lock to the door as long as I'm the owner of the house.
The thing is The lawyers are smart they've been wording it in such a way where they don't touch emulation in its legal gray area- where would you have to address Nintendo's actual claim of having the keys for the switch
thats not what happens in court bud 😂😂😂 just like yuzu, ryujinx, bowser, and this guy gary soon will be prosecuted for $14mil ez. The reason why Nintendo keeps winning this case is that they will allow you to keep piling up their damages and u think u can get away with it only to get f from behind once they got all the evidences and perpetual damages piled up against u 😂😂
@@kysierkevin huh? I don’t know the specifics of bowser but that’s not how the law works. You can’t wait to file litigation in order to bank up damages. That’s how you get your case thrown out. For ryujinx and yuzu Nintendo didn’t win anything. There was never a case. They settled out of court. One of these days I hope one of these defendants actually takes it to court so that the things Nintendo is claiming are illegal gets tested by the court. Then we will know whether they are truly illegal or not. The reason emulation is a “gray” area is because the way it’s written it doesn’t seem illegal on face value. But it hasn’t been tested in court. You can sue for anything. It’s the court that determines whether it’s actually illegal or not. Unless they find and pay off a favorable judge I doubt patenting “game mechanics” is going to hold up in court. We just need it to get that far.
I won't say anything incriminating . . . but what I will say is that I'm super duper petty. If you think Nintendo can be petty . . . I'm Kyle Petty and Richard Petty combined.
I tried Nintendo games and they are fun But to make it fix to thair platform while i have a pro pc is realy devastating I honestly would pay to have these games on my pc but they don't offer and get mad for people who emulate? Anyways It were my thoughts outloud Thanks for reading
except there not nintendo is great at winning out of court settlements maybe a handfull of cases where its clear the deffendant is in the wrong like piracy but look at nintendos track history when theyve tried to bully companys who can hit back and theyve lost time and time again nintendo vs block buster LOST nintendo vs galoob LOST nintendo vs internet archive LOST just to name a few
I think this guy is fed up with life or he must have something up his sleeve? I really dislike what Ninteno is doing. If buying a game is a licence then and I don't own it, well you know the rest.
Nintendo is wrong for this. And you sucking up to them, has got to be a ploy to get them off your back. I don't care if that guy begged to get sued. Ignoring his ass and moving on is the right thing to do. Nintendo has a frail ego, going after one dude, going after Pocket pair, all of this shit, is because Nintendo can't get its own shit together. It can't properly secure it's own games, it can't keep leakers from leaking their games, and it can't stand that someone made a game appealing to the masses that gamers have been asking for, for decades. This is all to say Nintendo is weak. And if you're supporting a billion dollar company, you are a loser as well.
I think it's time Nintendo should just go away it's crazy how they act like kids yah got millions and billions of dollars why do u need more money people who probably don't even got millions of dollars smh videos gamer should fight back because these companies is getting away too much smh even telling us the games we thought was our games we paid for they now tell us the games isn't ours games even if we paid millions of dollars on these games these people get rich I'm think it's time I give it up on buying games and just playing games because they make it no fun no more and video games use to be fun now it's suck
Good thing I don't play ANY Switch games. I do play Nintendo DS and 3DS games (and even game boy) - But on my DS Lite, 3DS XL, and my Game Boy Advanced. It would be nice to play the GBA game emulated because my GBA has no back light. But you won't see me emulating Nintendo games. Or advocating the same. Or buying any new Nintendo products. Or advocating the same. I'm firmly in the "I don't do Nintendo" camp these days (with the exception of my 3DS games). Of course I don't advocate for Pirating games in general. Pay for them to play them.
Nintendo as a company exists to make money. They as a company have an obligation to their shareholders to protect the share price. Nintendo clearly sees protecting their IP at all costs is how they protect their share value and shareholders. That’s why they turn to Lawfare against people that are in their eyes doing harm to the company the brand or their IP. Nintendo lived through the home console crash that killed Atari. They have always aggressively protected their IP. Anyone surprised by this is ignoring history. So yes they will try to make examples out of anyone they can. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
Nintendo are a sad excuse for a company, and every time they see something they don't like, they just go down another sad notch. And how the hell would they enforce this fine thing?
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What is the answer if I own a game physically or if I bought a game in the eShop and they closed it how can I play the game that I have purchased in the past?
Honestly, I no longer give a damn about Nintendo, as I don't support them as a company and haven't bought any products since the 3DS era. That being said, even a broken clock is right twice a day, and yes, this guy seemed to be asking for it, so maybe this was his desired outcome, who knows? If anything, I would like to see others follow his example, in a more anonymous way of course, as anytime someone sticks it to Nintendo, I consider it a good day.
The only way things can change is if Nintendo starts loosing money
@@supersoapdropper1826100% this! I really don't need Nintendo games. I have hundreds of PC games.
I stopped supporting Nintendo ever since they got rid of Yuzu thats how long I have not bought a Nintendo game or Product they crossed the line for me
@@supersoapdropper1826 Not gonna happen lol
@@paullucciwell, that depends, remember how the wii u didn't sell and was a huge failure? could be the same with the switch 2 if it's just a stupid gimmick system again.
If i own the game i own the prod.key.
I gotcha. But game companies, especially Nintendo don't see it that way. They want us to own *nothing*
Should be, but they scam you out of that.
Problem with that is that you DONT own the game. You buy a license to use the game on approved platforms
@@kingvon0125 Only for digital. Unless the game in a box comes with a code (wich is a scam).
@@kingvon0125 Actually, if you have a physical edition of the game, you do own your copy (which is entirely different than owning the copyright). This principle is established in law by the right of First Sale. Digital copies, though, are another story. The law hasn't really caught up to them yet, but case law suggests that they are non-transferable at this point in time. Of course, statutory law could be drafted to clarify what your exact rights with digital copies are.
Regardless, the product or encryption key is not copyrightable, but that is not really the issue. It's not the product key itself that is illegal to distribute; it's the act of defeating copy protection in order to make copies (or make copies usable) that is illegal. (Whether it's legal for otherwise legal purposes, like emulating your own legally obtained games, is debatable.)
By the way, media companies have been promoting the idea for a number of years that a license is necessary to use media. That is not actually the case. Copyright law does not require a license to read a book, watch a movie, or use a piece of software. A license is only required to do something that would otherwise be prohibited by copyright law (like installing software on multiple machines for multiple users, or showing a movie to groups of people (especially large groups) for commercial purposes).
Bob Wulff's point on the wording regarding circumventing copyright protections as part of the suit is a big problem. I agree with him. It's emulation. They are attempting to set precedence to lean on.
100%
Plot twist. This guy was paid by Nintendo and this is just giving them cause to get favorable court precedent they can use down the line. Don't REALLY believe that but honestly, I wouldn't even be a little bit surprised either.
@@StachelyPigglyBottom it’s political maneuvering. There’s no real answer that will ever come up more than Nintendo is playing a long game. They set each win up to help with the next one. Mod chips, emulator, use of emulator…The only thing they haven’t been able to sue for is the ability to create a backup. And the idiocy of Japanese copyright wit my allowing patents to be granted after the fact when several games use Pokémon like mechanics after nearly 30 years, but they need to show how big their muscles are to everyone. It’s a nightmare
Nothing nintendo says should be trusted. Yeah i am still salty with Palworld.
@@StachelyPigglyBottomThey don't need to pay anyone, there are enough stupid people out there thinking they can get away with stuff like streaming illegally downloaded games if it gets them some views. Or maybe just to stick it to Nintendo idk
If my life was falling apart and i needed 3 hots and a cot, I'd get nintendo to sue me
As long as you're not sharing files, they don't have a case. Not sure about streaming it but just downloading isn't going to get you sued.
Nintendo also can't take back the previously opensource software, any further development under a new license, sure, but everything prior is and always will be opensource. Everyone that contributed would also have to agree to the license change. If Nintendo decides to use that code in the future, they could get themselves into some legal hassles.
Also, ResetEra, yikes.
Aren't people getting sick and tired of corporate greed$$ increasingly abusing copyrights, patents, and eroding *ownership* ?
Im sure they are .. but it's like a chain smoker they know it's bad but they cant stop buying their addicting products
@@glovedcop69 people are going to have to change otherwise in the end the only reason the ultra rich and their corporations screwed us all over is because not enough of us didn't bother to stand up and fight back.
"many hands make light work" if we unite.
This guy's actions are going to lead into the ruination of emulation in the states.
every new emu users actions are going to do this
i have no intention to gate keep but new users into emulation are ruining it for everyone
the rules were simple you use the emulators you play the games and you shut the hell up about the grey area
now youve got morons who are making tutorials on youtube telling people what rom sites to use (huge nono) where to download the bios's and other shit
sharing that infos fine but you either A) keep that info private on a 1 to 1 basis with people or B) you nudge the user in the right direction in google for how to find those grey area files
its how the community survives take downs by keeping our sources quiet
then idiots came along and 1 by 1 all the great rom sites got nuked
The switch is never getting proper full emulation. The community can not stop themselves from publicly antagonizing Nintendo every time a new project gets started, bragging about pirating games, and giving explicit directions to get bios files and roms. I never want to defend a corporation, but this scene deserves all the legal hellfire that keeps coming its way
@@Sarge92 There used to be unspoken rules between the grey market and the games industry but due to this wannabe influencer mindset or whatever that's going on these days, some people just have to release/stream games before the launch date and for what? 5mins of notoriety, getting sued, and ruining it for everybody else.
Then you have people who can't think critically and blame Nintendo for protecting their own IP when the problem has always been these clowns trying to make some name for themselves which no one will remember. People should be angry at these clowns instead of propping them up like a lighthouse.
Even the guy who is acting the scapegoat for having to pay Nintendo millions of dollars was his own fault. He was caught previously, he got a slap on the wrists, he continued his activates, got caught again, and this time the judge made an example of him for f'ing around and finding out because apparently finding out the first time wasn't enough.
Like come on, we all know what kind of water these are, let's not act dumb here.
No, Nintendos actions are going to lead to that. It's their fault.
@@Supremo801 Maybe stop using corporate communication channels (discord) and corporate development platforms (github, gitlab, etc.) I feel like all Nintendo's actions will accomplish is cause a lot of people to find out what TOR is.
Emulating in your own home ain't gonna get you sued, but streaming it isn't a good idea
Yet.
Lol that's the next step.. Isn't that what happened to Napster users??
If nindo can track you IP they might, but that's an unreliable method of finding people when IPs can be spoofed. That said it isn't as if they wouldn't be dicks enough to try.
Streaming emulated games won't get you sued either.
Streaming emulated games that aren't released yet, that, that will 100% get you sued.
yes it is, just the tech that is tracking you isn't allowed in the courts yet
If we don't like what a company is doing, we simply don't support them with our money and our attention.
Agreed, I loved Nintendo. But they have become an abusive partner, so time to leave them. So no more Nintendo for me.
to be fair, nintendo shouldn't be antagonized for suing someone who begged for it, but they ABSOLUTELEY SHOULD for all the Fan Projects they got cancelled (OOT in Unreal engine which wasnt even supposed to be a game but just a proof of concept, Romhacks and all that stuff) , their terrible hardware (Joycons for example), poorly optimized games (Pokemon Scarlett & Violet for example), their awful online infrastructure, not having an account system for their digital storefronts before the switch forcing you to repurchase games multiple times if you wanted to play them on multiple platforms (for example virtual console games on the WII, WII U & 3DS) and all the other crap they pulled over the years like the Smash Bros leak, Garry Bowser and Yuzu.
Nintendo need to stop reselling the same games every generation. Corporate greed at nintendo is a joke
People were laughing when I suggested that Nintendo would not stop going after emulation. The obvious next step is automatic rom deletion using legal viruses.
Emulation cannot be illegal. Some big companies such as Microsoft rely on emulation and support it. SteamOS rely on emulation layer.
See 8:45 & 9:35
Nintendo: Legal for me, not for thee
@@dm.3145 there are two answers for that: "alas" or "ahoy" 😏
Compatibility/translation layer WINE (Wine Is Not an Emulator). These are different emulators emulate original hardware translation layers translate system calls.
@@FanTheDeckWhat is the answer if I own a game physically or if I bought a game in the eShop and they closed it how can I play the game that I have purchased in the past?
Judging from your scripts I'm assuming you used to write pretty good essays in your school days.
You: Hey Nintendo, any chance you will make this old game run in your new hardware, or re-release the 30 year old console it ran on?
Nintendo: NO and if you try to make it run we will SUE YOU!!
Guy was playing Switch games, ones not even released yet - how does this apply?
@ I said, THIS guys an idiot, not surprised he is being sued. But the rest of my comment relates to Nintendos MO. It sucks, they hold o to their IP, don't make new games, don't remaster them, don't release them or make them playable on newer systems. And threaten anyone who dares emulate them.
I went looking for the actual US Copyright law language for circumvention. They have language in there that suggests that the copyright office can do an evaluation every three years to determine if circumvention for specific stuff would be required to allow rightful owners continued ability to consume the copyrighted content they own. Not a lawyer here, especially not one versed in US copyright law, but that would suggest to me that legal circumvention for taking backups could be explicitly pushed for after the end-of-support cycle for any console.
Nintendo has become one of the worst companies in the world in my opinion. It is so very sad... but true for me personally.
I won't be supporting a company that's so anti consumer again, many good games I don't need Nintendo
Atleast legally. Ubisoft is worse than Nintendo. In comparison.
I'm guessing you must be pretty young if you think that a litigious video game company is anywhere near as bad as oil companies, weapons manufacturers, venture capitalists, etc.
@soviut303 it depends on how you view worst. I haven't seen oil companies suing people for trying to use there own products. I don't see weapon manufacturers suing there own customers when they want to mod a gun to do what they want.
These other companies run as you could expect them to. What they make maybe bad, but the companies are not so hostile to people who are or want to be customers.
Not young, just not lumping and categorizing companies based on a different criteria than you are apparently.
@@robertsharp1511 Yeah, man. A game company protecting its IP is definitely worse than a company making billions every year selling death machines. Drone striking civilians? Who cares. Let's talk about the real issues: I want to play Nintendo games on PC.
In all seriousness, a physical item, like a gun, is not software, so... false equivalence.
You agree to terms of service with every piece of software you purchase. Included in those terms is language explaining that you agree to not duplicate or distribute that software. Whether or not you agree with it, Nintendo is completely within their rights to litigate over this stuff.
So Nintendo are saying you are circumventing TPM's which you would have to do originally with a physical Switch Originally. So are they saying people are not allowed to repair, or technically do not fully own the physical devices?
If so wouldn't that then open them up to legal action by prevent people fully owning the devices which they have paid for?
Instead they wouldn't owners be technically renting/licencing the physical devices.
Exactly.
They are trying to get the rights of the digital copyright holder to supersede the rights of the owner has over their physical product thus making the digital license apply to the physical product.
So yes, Nintendo is saying that the customer technically doesn't own the physical device and are only purchasing a revocable license to the product.
Because in the US you have the right to make backups of physical media you own and technically that should also include a copy the Switch's firmware & product key data stored on the device.
What Nintendo is saying at every turn is "No you don't" even if you don't circumvent any TPMs and only are making legal copies of encrypted software & data.
If i buy their hardware it is f. mine and i'll do whatever the hell i want with it. Good luck for them trying to stop me.
It's unenforceable to stop _every_ person from modifying the hardware they think they own (if you read the EULA from most game systems you technically don't but no one really does.) All Nindo thinks they have to do is attack enough people to stem the tide. It's the same thing the RIAA did going after music pirates. Hit random people with multiple millions of dollar lawsuits and scare others away from doing it too.
@@zer0doughnuts except that's not what's happened here
None of the defendants owned any of the software.
Which Nintendo is allowed to prosecute for
Hey, have you done a video on steam decks desktop mode yet? I feel like a lot of people buy the deck as a budget pc and hook it up and an in depth on the experience would probably help a lot of users. Great vid as always
Shitendo: lets leak like a harakiri samurai
Also shitendo: lets sue everyone
If only the Switch was not an absolutely garbage of a console...
Pirating games that aren't event released yet is exactly why Nintendo went after the emulators. If people could have kept a lid on it, they'd be fine. But they can't help but be heat scores. I hope the clout was worth it for these idiots.
This is more of a security problem from nintendo side. Anyone can steal a game, dump the rom and put it on internet for everyone to download.
@@Bullminator It's a security issue for sure, but it's also on the person not to break the "law" and record it for people to see.
It's not. The individual didn't sign a NDA or any contract @TheRealAlpha2
Yeah people have been fucking dumb about it this generation
They aren't exactly wrong for defending their IP and software from being stolen
Don't know if it was a setup by Nintendo to kill emulation or the individual just doesn't care.
Regarding Nintendo’s recent actions on emulation, this is the only solution:
*All types of intellectual property (IP) laws must be fully abolished immediately, in any and all jurisdictions worldwide.* All IP laws are extremely unethical for humankind.
Against Intellectual Monopoly is the most informative book humanity has on the subject now. Against Intellectual Property is _another_ incredible essay, but it’s written with right-libertarian rhetoric so if you’re, like me, not right-libertarian you’ll have to read with an open mind and extract the essential info. _Only_ these two texts are the gold standard when it comes to intellectual property.
I also have a playlist (not _my_ videos) of *the* best videos on intellectual property laws on my channel for all interested.
Then that leaves zero protection for the little guy. It would allow big companies to steal someone's IP. Libertarian ideals always seem to forget that the big rich guy still holds the most power if you remove laws and regulations.
@@soviut303 They already do that. They have money to keep them in court till you run out of money.
Wait until they bring GameCube games onto NSO. It won't be just about the Switch anymore...
Quite certain Gary Bowsers case was in Canada, so legal precedent would have to be set in the US. Granted this guy was asking for trouble, no Nintendo isn't scanning PC's to find your copy of Yuzu or Ryu, but don't go posting pics online.
Totally agree. This person felt pretty entitled, and put unnecessary heat on emulation.
I wonder if it’s a false flag operation so Nintendo can further their legal war against emulators.
Well done and well spoken breakdown. Thank you
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100% f nintendo props to this dude.
That type of behavior only gives Nintendo ammunition
This dude was asking for it
I don't emulate Switch games, but it really seems like it's only a matter of time before they go after anyone emulating any Nintendo game, no matter how old.
And how would they know whether I did or not?
@@vulfreyde by the sales numbers of course.
You better get Yuzu and Rynix before they are wiped off the internet forever (and roms for games you own, as its pain in ass already to dump them).
@@Sly2Cooper Braindead answer. You can't tell sales numbers for games like pokemon emerald in modern day. People will emulate till the heat death of the universe regardless of its legality.
@@Bullminator None of that can happen. Once it's on the internet, it's there forever.
Ok so from a conspiracy theory standpoint I have to ask how well known is this guy? As I’ve never heard of them but there are lots of people I’ve never heard of.
Basically my headspace is thinking (along with like 30 other thoughts about this topic) is this guy a plant? I mean big studios have been pushing this stuff for ages but no one was willing to pick up the other end and take it to trial as 1 most streamers don’t have the cash to fight any of the big companies but 2 their all worried that the case may go against streamers making the DMCA and copywrong system even worse, now to date no studio has pushed it to trial but what if this was Nintendo’s plan, now of course it is but the conspiracy theory part is, is this guy a double agent working with Nintendo (yes I know it’s farfetched but Nintendo has probably spent more money on marketing campaigns that they will on this trail and in there mind they will get far more back.
More people need to broadcast how to pass the nintendo bullshit. We are strong in numbers. Just dont put your face or real name when you do it.
Dude, showing Nintendo game footage is not illegal. Not even against TH-cam TOS. Relax. Breathe.
Hey don't have other social media to call you out on, but Balatro was nominated for Game of the Year on The Game Awards!!!!
I did my part!! (And thanks for sharing)
He was poking the bear. The bear bit.
The bear woke up and legally retaliated to the person who poked
If Nintendo would resell the old games like twilight princess, luigis mansion 1 and wind waker, we wouldn't need to resort to emulation. I'm not going to pay scalpers for a old copy of a game.
NEW VIDEO LETS GOO, I can't wait for the new limited edition Steam Deck!!!
Yeah, there is a fine line where I say that you shouldn't pass if you don't want Nintendo to legally have to do something and I feel that person has in fact passed skipped over and completely ignored that line.(aka deserved)
I do believe the punishment was a little overboard, but im also gonna play devil's advocate and say that he was kind of asking for it. He was not only streaming pirated emulated games but these games weren't released yet (which i feel like was the main problem here) and he was also mocking Nintendo saying "we can do this all day" and stuff.
Again i don't believe this punishment was entirely deserved, but i also believe that if you are constantly poking a sleeping bear thats really only half asleep, and you keep poking it when it wakes up, then you can't blame anyone but yourself for the bear attacking you.
Dude had it coming. At the end of the Day it don't matter how u or I feel about piracy. It's illegal and they have every right to come after you if they want.
Oh my god. Is this... a reasonable adult response? The legends were true...
@@paullucci facts are facts
Every *legal* right.
Moral rights? Debatable.
Did he sign a NDA or any paperwork? If anything it's nintendo fault for not having better security and protocol.
wild thumbnail bro i thought nintendo was suing steam for the white colourway 😭
Section 1201 of the Copyright Title is part of the DMCA addendum to copyright law. It clearly makes it illegal to defeat copy protection measures in order to distribute copies illegally (which is a violation of copyright at any rate, but this gives them another charge to hit you with). Whether it makes it illegal to defeat copy protection for purposes that would otherwise be legal is debatable in many cases. There is a provision for the Librarian of Congress to clarify that in certain cases it is legal, and there are several things that have been clarified and have gotten renewed every two years. The last I knew (and I doubt this has changed) it had not been clarified that defeating copy protection to emulate legally obtained games was legal.
So the legal argument for emulating Switch games for your private enjoyment would be that as long as the games aren't being pirated, It's OK to defeat the copy protection. The Switch itself has to defeat the copy protection in order for you to play the game anyway. Is the intent of the law to create media that only works on approved devices, or is it to stop copyright piracy?
In any case, the defendant here doesn't really have a leg to stand on, and seems to be a great fool. (Of course, conspiracy theorists could claim that this whole thing is set up to strengthen Nintendo's position on emulating Switch games).
Edit: By the way, you can make a very strong argument (pretty much ironclad) that once Nintendo stops selling devices that defeat the copy protection on Switch games, then it becomes definitely legal to defeat it yourself for otherwise legal purposes. However, this still doesn't make distributing copies of the software legal.
I mean Nintendo obviously wants to twist the law to make it so that only their approved devices can play the game
Wake of destruction. Hahaha. I fucking love your channel Rich. Awesome vibes. It's the reason i enjoy Russ's and Bills channel too.
I had to comment about Rivals of Aether 2, I have been playing that game with the girlfriend for the past few weeks, it's absolutely awesome! If you ever wanted to play a smash Bros that is less random chance and more competitive skill. Definitely give it a try!
@FanTheDeck saying "I dont wanna get sued" over a gameplay of Pal World is hilarious!
I don't think you can claim any fork that contains only the code which has been open source at some point is not legal to use going forward, as long as that use matches the license it was released under. Unless you can prove that 'open source' code was stolen proprietary code so could not be genuinely open source in the first place anyway. So the Big N buying out an opensource project gives them ownership of that work, and the right to change the license for future revisions of that body of code, but not a legal right retroactively change the previous versions or go after forks that do everything correctly to the terms of the original licence - you'd have to credit the original code sources most likely, which would now link back to the project owned by the Big N, but... Though I am not a lawyer, and there are many open source license things are commonly released under.
Companies that large should not be able to sue people.
So, circumvention of DRM (easier to understand, as that's what the community already uses to refer to it) by an individual is not really actionable by Nintendo. It's the selling of modding software. The important thing about Nintendo v. Bowser is that he was selling access to the mods. Doing things in your own home, for yourself, is not something Nintendo can sue you for. And FOSS modding projects aren't going to be sued either (because frankly, who do you sue? The original author? FOSS licenses usually protect the authors from bullies like Nintendo).
The issue will _always_ be the exchanging of money for goods and services that violate the DMCA. That's the only leg Nintendo has to stand on. And we know this because those are the cases Nintendo goes after. Yuzu _was_ breaking the DMCA with paid early access to a version of their emulator that was able to support TotK earlier than the street date, which both encourages and profits off piracy, _and_ implies a selling of DRM circumvention methods. Gary Bowser/Team Xecutor was _selling_ Switch mods, no other modded Switch software has been sued like Gary Bowser was, because everyone else is (hopefully) smart enough to make the connection. Money is what drives the lawsuits. Stop selling piracy.
The keys on your own switch should be yours you bought that switch and should own the system and the software running on it period pulling your own singular copy of whatever it is shouldn’t be illegal that’s like suing someone for modifying the software on their own car or home
Thanks for this, man.
Nintendo going after piracy never bothered me. I get it, can't be getting games that are for sale for free. I always felt like owning a copy of the game opened up the exception for having rom backups. I bought this game and I want insurance for 10 years from now when my hard copies begins to fail.
But now they're saying emulation is illegal. Emulation is an important insurance for my purchases, so I know I can play my games 10 years from now. And now more than ever I'm hurting from games I miss with no modern replacements.
So I'm once again feeling like I'm dropping Nintendo permanently. I already haven't bought any Switch games in several months, and haven't touched my Switch in a couple months.
I understand why others don't want to make this plunge, but for me this is the final of several nails in the coffin from Nintendo. Over the past several months I've swung back and forth on whether I'd really drop Nintendo from my gaming. I already mainly play on PC, and after the sale a month ago I got a Steamdeck.
Every time I start to swing back like oh maybe I'll get Metroid Prime 4 , or maybe I'll end up getting a Switch 2; stories like this happen and swing me right back the other way. Going after the Melee community, going after Palworld, going after TH-camrs. It's pathetic.
Basically Nintendo keeps convincing me to never buy their consoles or games again. It's too bad they insist on being dickheads.
Yes absolutely boycott them, but the problem is you don't own the games you "buy" technically. This has been the biggest problem.
The consumer applies the same logic to a game that they apply to a car or a hamburger, but the EULAs and ancient digital copyright laws allow the corporations to claim your purchase is only a _lease,_ whether you posses a hard copy of it or not. They own the code on that media and that they can pull that lease whenever they feel like it. The digital laws from ages ago made provisions for you to make one or two copies for the sake of maintaining your access the the leased content, like ripping music CDs to MP3 for backups, but you had to do it yourself rather than downloading them for the law to protect you. Of course the laws a convoluted and full of jargon that people don't really pay attention to, otherwise Digital distribution would never have gotten as far as it has.
You use a Switch to circumvent and use the content because it's "the only" device that should be able to do it. Nindo's claims is using "anything else" other than their device to circumvent protection is breaking not only their EULA but also the law. Emulation is just being made the whipping boy because so many people (in Nindo's estimation) are simply downloading the content and using it without Nindo getting their pound of flesh. Emulation might be legal (for now) but Nindo is swinging wildly trying to swat illegal flies and that's were the slippery slope lies. The funny thing is the more they swat at them the more they're pushing people away and in some cases creating the very thing they're fighting.
I dont see how nintendo would ever be able to or sue someone for emulating on a steam deck, how would they know ?
No, they're not. Suing individuals for emulation is ridiculous. Nintendo is hurting us all. I have been a huge Nintendo fan for my entire life, and I dislike them now.
I'm not showing any Nintendo games but shows Palworld another thing Nintendo is trying to sue 😂
I only buy nintendo hardware at the end of its lifecycle once it can be modded for exactly these reasons. F em!
Plot twist it’s Nintendo propping themselves as a small streamer so they can sue them and further court proceedings against emulators
This guys an idiot, but with emulation as a whole...
Nintendo are the ones to blame, sorry, they have a truckload of old IP's people want to play, and they do NOT sell them or make them run on their new hardware. So people emulate as it's the ONLY choice they have, or they can try and make a 30 year old console work...
exactly
People wouldn't even MAKE an emulator if the games were readily available
I dont think so. For us pirates, we dont want to pay a dime for some games that were already release 10-20 yrs ago
Eh no we just want free games and on hardware that isnt constantly 2 gens behind its competitors
Reminder that it is morally right to pirate anything the Pokémon company or Nintendo makes.
I really don't get these punishments, even if the dude obtained the game illegally the punishment only makes sense for 50 x 60 or that would be around 3,000$ so at most 6,000$ Even with the console that isn't going to breach 10,000$
The dude is streaming games, this is going to improve sales and make Nintendo money.
This isn't going to scare people away from emulating, if anything this will just drive people to do it more because Nintendo keeps on upsetting people. Nintendo itself is the problem.
Loved the little speech about not showing any Nintendo games during the video ... while showing footage of Pal World 🤣 Nintendo sucks! I wasn't a big player of their games anyway, but I'm probably not going to buy another one or console. I have a Steam Deck, so I won't miss their games 😉
They pirated nintendo and bullied them about it, this wont effect the rest of us
Not exactly, the more people like this they stomp on the more power they get because they can point to each an every infringement as a reason to go into courts and try to take away the ability to emulate, legal or not.
Conspiracy theory here, if the dude didn't had many viewers what if he was hired by Nintendo to be their escape goat and try to turn emulation illegal? 'cause how the hell would they find about him if he wasn't that expressive in terms of public/followers/viewers?
If this was staged, I'm pretty sure running a court case over it would be a crime in of itself.
I feel the only times I have heard Nintendo’s name being brought up lately; soley about one lawsuit or another.
But yeah this guy is probably not surviving this fine which is a sad thought.
I don’t have a problem with emulating old unsupported software. But I am 50/50 on emulating current hardware. Like if it’s the 3Ds or early: piss off nintendo, you ended support, why do you care.
If it’s current hardware (especially pre release stuff): I kinda get it, it’s stuff they don’t wanna anyone to see yet.
But I am a boycotter because BDSP and SV were so bad for me, I just don’t even touch my switch anymore since 1 week after SV’s release. Game was so bad for me.
Supporting Nintendo in any way at this point is tacit approval of, if not outright sympathizing with, their behavior. Just don’t do it.
Is there such a thing as "settled law" anymore, after the Roe reversal?
Can Nintendo really claim to own all rights to projects that open source and any projects that were forked before they even owned them?
If they take ownership of the code and then remove it from opensource platforms like Github, then it's theirs to do with as they see fit. Just because thousands of free copies exist, that doesnt change the fact that they own it, it just makes it easy for people to distribute something Nindo claims ownership of.
No worries, Nintendo. I only play pirated games on your own official hardware leveraging your own flawed engineering.
Why you are only here on TH-cam about Nintendo getting butt hurt over emulated games and not other companies I tried to emulate some Nintendo switch games but it did not work and I finally figured out mine. The emulator that I needed was yuzu but I heard on TH-cam that that one had been taken down by Nintendo and that was before I even knew what it was so I guess Nintendo took this down to keep new people like me from emulating their Nintendo switch games that they’re trying to sell for overpriced money since their games have never really gone on sale like other companies do I have a Nintendo switch but I haven’t played it in a while and I haven’t bought any games in a while. I was just looking through my closet the other day and I found my old 3DSXL I actually found one of the games that I wanted to play. It was a legend of Zelda game so I have the physical game but I didn’t remember I bought it so I was trying to emulate it but if I couldn’t get it to work, I was just gonna buy it because it’s still available I never really played legend of Zelda until breath of the wild came out because I thought all of the older games were top down view, and I hate those types of games
I know that most users don't like it, but this shows you that Nintendo is right about emulation - 95% of Nintendo Switch emulator usage is piracy. There might be a few people who actually use it to play games they actually own, but vast majority of users just play pirated roms.
still no reason to kill emulation software is just wrong imo.
The streamer might have just ruined emulation for the rest of us.
You say you're not using fear monger.....yet all you said was to fear monger
Нормальные компании выдают популярным стримерам ранний доступ в игру, а что делает Нинтендо?
What is the answer if I own a game physically or if I bought a game in the eShop and they closed it how can I play the game that I have purchased in the past?
Nintendo is in the right on this one. But at the same time this still falls on them. Why? Well Nintendo has a huge problem and they aren’t doing anything to prevent it. Switch games have no software preventing the game to be dumped and they have a problem keeping there games from breaking street date. Sony and Xbox don’t really have this problem. It does happen to them but not like Nintendo.
games are more expensive than consoles , yes nintendo
imagine being a company that people instead of liking it just causes fear whoever it roams!!! GOOD JOB Nintendo! you just passed the Distopian-vive Check! i have a friend that uses the steam deck to emulate all the nintendo switch he owns.. and that's the keyword, he owns all those games and also, obviously, the switch itself so i'm not sure if he would care that much about that possible sue xD which is just stupid like mad-crazy stupid, because there's no F* way that they track the emulators, because that would classify as spreading malware and stealing personal data (and a few other human rights) and also the amount of money they ask is just way way way off the chart. like i need to use astronomic units to measure how stupidly far they have reached xD
if nintendo begins to sue individuals they will end bad... astronomically bad.
It's obviously unethical to support Nintendo, just look at their path of destruction and misery.
I honestly hope Nintendo gets shutdown in court over this. IMO, I shouldn't be legally liable to the fact that they can't not leak their software, and circumventing security measure on a device I own for my benefit shouldn't be illegal either. Just like I'm allowed to pick the lock to the door as long as I'm the owner of the house.
The thing is
The lawyers are smart they've been wording it in such a way where they don't touch emulation in its legal gray area- where would you have to address Nintendo's actual claim of having the keys for the switch
thats not what happens in court bud 😂😂😂 just like yuzu, ryujinx, bowser, and this guy gary soon will be prosecuted for $14mil ez. The reason why Nintendo keeps winning this case is that they will allow you to keep piling up their damages and u think u can get away with it only to get f from behind once they got all the evidences and perpetual damages piled up against u 😂😂
@@kysierkevin huh? I don’t know the specifics of bowser but that’s not how the law works. You can’t wait to file litigation in order to bank up damages. That’s how you get your case thrown out. For ryujinx and yuzu Nintendo didn’t win anything. There was never a case. They settled out of court. One of these days I hope one of these defendants actually takes it to court so that the things Nintendo is claiming are illegal gets tested by the court. Then we will know whether they are truly illegal or not. The reason emulation is a “gray” area is because the way it’s written it doesn’t seem illegal on face value. But it hasn’t been tested in court.
You can sue for anything. It’s the court that determines whether it’s actually illegal or not. Unless they find and pay off a favorable judge I doubt patenting “game mechanics” is going to hold up in court. We just need it to get that far.
I won't say anything incriminating . . . but what I will say is that I'm super duper petty. If you think Nintendo can be petty . . . I'm Kyle Petty and Richard Petty combined.
Buddy was asking for it
I think theyr are dead right this time
I tried Nintendo games and they are fun
But to make it fix to thair platform while i have a pro pc is realy devastating
I honestly would pay to have these games on my pc but they don't offer and get mad for people who emulate?
Anyways
It were my thoughts outloud
Thanks for reading
Nintendo is always right… according to the courts 😅
except there not nintendo is great at winning out of court settlements maybe a handfull of cases where its clear the deffendant is in the wrong like piracy
but look at nintendos track history when theyve tried to bully companys who can hit back and theyve lost time and time again
nintendo vs block buster LOST
nintendo vs galoob LOST
nintendo vs internet archive LOST
just to name a few
Legal loopholes are fun to exploit, emulation is such a huge grey area there's millions of ways to fight against it
@@Sarge92 good points! Too bad Nintendo is building precedent with small game. 😢
Yeah, well if you look at the history of mankind, it looks like the good guys won every time, what are the odds ?? 😂
I think this guy is fed up with life or he must have something up his sleeve? I really dislike what Ninteno is doing. If buying a game is a licence then and I don't own it, well you know the rest.
Imma steal all ur games Nintendo and not play ‘em 😂
It's not illegal if you don't get caught😂
Nintendo is wrong for this. And you sucking up to them, has got to be a ploy to get them off your back.
I don't care if that guy begged to get sued. Ignoring his ass and moving on is the right thing to do. Nintendo has a frail ego, going after one dude, going after Pocket pair, all of this shit, is because Nintendo can't get its own shit together. It can't properly secure it's own games, it can't keep leakers from leaking their games, and it can't stand that someone made a game appealing to the masses that gamers have been asking for, for decades.
This is all to say Nintendo is weak. And if you're supporting a billion dollar company, you are a loser as well.
Emulation is wrong no matter what cause you need to obtain the games illegally
nobody likes nintendo.
Thank god for VPN
NIntendo can kick rocks...
Hopefully hes in Russia and they can't do F all lol screw you Nintendo 😂
I think it's time Nintendo should just go away it's crazy how they act like kids yah got millions and billions of dollars why do u need more money people who probably don't even got millions of dollars smh videos gamer should fight back because these companies is getting away too much smh even telling us the games we thought was our games we paid for they now tell us the games isn't ours games even if we paid millions of dollars on these games these people get rich I'm think it's time I give it up on buying games and just playing games because they make it no fun no more and video games use to be fun now it's suck
Good thing I don't play ANY Switch games. I do play Nintendo DS and 3DS games (and even game boy) - But on my DS Lite, 3DS XL, and my Game Boy Advanced. It would be nice to play the GBA game emulated because my GBA has no back light. But you won't see me emulating Nintendo games. Or advocating the same. Or buying any new Nintendo products. Or advocating the same. I'm firmly in the "I don't do Nintendo" camp these days (with the exception of my 3DS games). Of course I don't advocate for Pirating games in general. Pay for them to play them.
For the games that nintendo doesn't even sell anymore, where do I pay to play them?
Nintendo as a company exists to make money. They as a company have an obligation to their shareholders to protect the share price. Nintendo clearly sees protecting their IP at all costs is how they protect their share value and shareholders. That’s why they turn to Lawfare against people that are in their eyes doing harm to the company the brand or their IP. Nintendo lived through the home console crash that killed Atari. They have always aggressively protected their IP. Anyone surprised by this is ignoring history. So yes they will try to make examples out of anyone they can. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
Edited by high tech low life?
You all voted for Nintendo with your wallets, Don't go complaining when they grab you by the ...
You get what you deserve.
False. Their monopolies are enforced on all of us by governments with intellectual property laws.
Please learn how IP laws work. I gave the best resources available in a main comment here
Us pirates arent the ones buying their stuff, its everyone else.
It became morally correct to pirate Nintendo products.
Nintendo are a sad excuse for a company, and every time they see something they don't like, they just go down another sad notch.
And how the hell would they enforce this fine thing?