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Dishonored - Lore (The Forbidden Trinity of Gristol, Part 1: The Outsider)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2016
- A Declaration:
Welcome to the Gameological Dig, a channel devoted to playing games with obtuse and interesting stories. The aim of this channel is to treat these game worlds like an archeological site, meant to be unearthed and studied, so that we may better understand their plots, characters and themes.
Episode Notes:
This is a re-uploaded version of the same video, which should be viewable in SHINY 1080p. Special thanks to "hakamhak" for explaining how to properly export out in 1080p in iMovie. You're a life saver!
This was definitely the most challenging video I've attempted yet. Between the combined length of the main game and its DLC's, I devoted TOO MANY HOURS to this playthrough of Dishonored, and damn near ALL of my hard drive space. I made it work, but it pushed me to the limits creatively, since the subject of this video has roughly 10 minutes of screen time in total. It was really quite difficult to compile interesting but relevant scenes in a cohesive fashion. In the end, it came out well enough, but I feel it could be better. Still, it is an informative episode. I've been vying to talk about the lore to Dishonored for a hell of a long time. It's SO compelling and well thought out (though the Outsider's lore is super sparse), and is infinitely cooler than anything which happens in the main narrative.
As of now, I have one, maybe two more episodes planned. Depending on this episode's reception, I may do more (some lore vids on Granny Rags, Daud and Dahlia, mayhaps). Anywho, I hope you enjoy episode one of my new series.
Game Notes:
Dishonored is a 2012 stealth action-adventure video game developed by Arkane Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks. It was released worldwide in October 2012 for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3, and Xbox 360. Set in the fictional, plague-ridden industrial city of Dunwall, Dishonored follows the story of Corvo Attano, bodyguard to the Empress of the Isles. He is framed for her murder and forced to become an assassin, seeking revenge on those who conspired against him. Corvo is aided in his quest by the Loyalists-a resistance group fighting to reclaim Dunwall, and the Outsider-a powerful being who imbues Corvo with magical abilities. Several noted actors including Susan Sarandon, Brad Dourif, Carrie Fisher, Michael Madsen, Lena Headey and Chloë Grace Moretz provided voice work for the game.
The game is played from a first-person perspective and allows the player to undertake a series of assassination missions in a variety of ways, with an emphasis on player choice. Missions can be completed through stealth, combat, or a combination of both. Exploring each level opens new paths and alternatives for accomplishing mission goals, and it is possible to complete all missions, eliminating all of Corvo's targets, in a non-lethal manner. The story and missions are changed in response to the player's violent actions or lack thereof. Magical abilities and equipment are designed to be combined to create new and varied effects.
i love how the outsider is pretty much a god of his own world and he chooses to entertain himself by watching dishonored gameplay
Firelink shrine music, and dishonored lore, very nice.
and demon's souls character creation ost
he needs to whisper more, I could barely hear the ost
They did my boy Dishonored like Dark souls!
I got the impression that the outsider favoured low chaos aswell.
He says he's "fascinated" when you employ low chaos tactics. That doesn't mean he favors it. I'm fascinated by reading philosophical texts, but it doesn't mean I prefer it to reading fiction, or non-fiction. I view this the same way. His tone and his words during the high chaos ending seem indicative of him really favoring high chaos. He says "I don't know about you, Corvo, but I've had a lovely time." I mean, it's subjective and open-ended enough that either reading could be argued for, but I feel this makes more sense to me.
I don't think he favors either, he simply wishes to see what Corvo will do with the cards he is dealt. No matter what happens the Outsider is interested in how the story unfolds.
Undead Viking this is all answered in dishonoured 2, I'd say another video is needed
Undead Viking yeah because it's more "interesting" or some shit.
I preferred the high chaos route. Rats eating people. The swarm is what I used the most.
Tackling lore of Dishonored
Very satisfying narrator
In game music
Can I just- like.. take this and worship this forever?
[Merci] Merciless-Killer Haha, thanks. Worship to your hearts content.
It's delightful to see you tackle the lore of another beloved game of mine.
Well done, and good luck on future installments!
Thanks, K. Dishonored is so dope, I couldn't resist doing a lore episode on it! I've got one more planned, though I might do some mini-joints on Daud or Delilah. We'll see; it all depends on how well received these ones are.
That sounds awesome. I'm sure they'll be baller.
Never seen your videos before, gotta say this is a great first impression. You've earned a sub man.
Alicaido i did not too
He is way better at explaining lore of video games
A seamless narrative. Professional rendering. The analysis is just perfect with its thoughtful and intelligent reflection. This is the 'best' critical / review on the internet - period. I already lost sleep having been glued to your story analysis of SOMA. So there, I've said it - I've become officially hooked by this series. Thank you for sharing your unique talents with so many. Thoroughly and completely enjoyed this and you have my deepest appreciation and utmost respect - thank you.
the amount of work you put into these videos is amazing, i hope you keep making this kind of quality content even if you have to only post once per month because this is great stuff
Thanks, lol. I too wish I could get more content out a lil more hastily. It's not easy though. I'm still in the process of writing the next episode. Trust me, if I could get these out quicker, I would, but I have to remind many that I'm essentially writing a research essay on the game. It takes a lot of time to compile all the info, to filter out non relevant tidbits and organize it all into a cohesive idea, AND still make it good. Then there's the video editing part. It takes time. I suspect I'll be done with the script before the week is done, and that the next episode will be up sometime next week. Just hold a lil longer!
Gameological Dig yeah thats what i'm trying to say, take your time, making a video every day is going to ruin you in the future and the quality is going to degrade alot. hope you make it big bro i really like your content
And some teachers say that our generation is not sufficiently motivated in the pursuit of knowledge... ;) I'd say your efforts fly in their collective faces.
@@GameologicalDig
TY very much for this series. Your voice and narrative style fits so well with the dystopic world of Dishonored. Your choice of music as well is quite intriguing. Very well researched and put together.
Hat's off to you sir! You are a gentleman and a scholar.
Firelink Shrine Music fits this so much! Great video!
Sooo excited for this! Your SOMA series was incredible and Dishonored is such a perfect fit for your narrative analysis. Thank you!
Nah, thank you! You watched and enjoyed it! It makes me want to do more!
This was beautiful, can't wait for part 2
I really love your channel. It's really refreshing to see someone look so in-depth into the lore of games. Your SOMA analysis was captivating and really well thought-out. I'm excited to see where you go with this series! Thank you for creating this channel and keep up the good work! :)
Thanks for the love! I create what I've always wanted out of a TH-cam lore channel: a source for deep dived and considered examinations. Glad I wasn't the only one!
as a fan of the dishonored universe, i really enjoyed the video and look forward to learn more about it ! good job
I just wanna inject dishonored lore straight into my veins
This is a great idea. I've always heard of how good and well thought out the lore of Dishonored is but I've never had the time or patience to look through the in-game books and other random sources. You're really providing a service here
It's SO dope, and the Outsider stuff is actually the least fleshed out bits of the mythos, since most of what we know was revealed by Harvey Smith via Twitter. The real juicy bits are about the Abbey.
HOLY FUCK THIS SUCH A GREAT VIDEO!
You mentioned BioShock during your channel address and honestly man... I already have goose bumps because I personally was huge into the BioShock games and I can't wait to see the interpretation you put on the table. Each game will take a lot for the direction but it would be amazing. Thanks for the growing consistency in content and can't wait for the next video.
Your script is just great. Love your vocabulary and references.
Not enough Dishonoured lore on TH-cam! This is excellent. Really enjoyed your narration and the way you put the video together!
Gameological Dig, Thank you sooo much for this, I just found your channel today! (subscribing, plus left like). I really love The Outsider and was completely fascinated with the way you explained him. I was wondering if you are going to continue explaining more about him and Dishonored in general from the Dishonored 2 game and the upcoming game: Dishonored - Death of the Outsider (when it comes out of course). - My heart is breaking after hearing about and watching that trailer. I really want to play it, but I don't want The Outsider gone - he's too amazing.
I know we got more information on him in the second game, but the way you explain everything is beyond intriguing. It genuinely makes me want to play the first game all over again just to take in more from what you have said. (Also, I never watched/played the DLC content etc about Delilah... so got a bit of a shock about Granny Rags - It was an awesome mind blowing shock btw). :)
I have the first game on Xbox, just getting into PC games now so planning on buying all the Dishonored games on Steam. I am really hoping you do say more on the Dishonored franchise.
I always rewatch this series every few months. The Bioshock series as well. It’s just great commentary
Demon's Souls music and Dishonored? Let's be best friends!!!!
Bro let me just say, this analysis is no joke. If there was some sort of career for mixing art, story, lore, and games, you'd fit really well. Great series man
At the time of the Outsider saying that there were only 8 in world bearing his mark, we know of 6 living at that time:
Corvo
Daud
Delilah
Granny rags
The Royal Torturer
The Unnamed woman marked in 1803 (who is only 2 years older than Jessamine, so most likely still alive)
15 years later then, there is anywhere from 5-9 people with this mark (as Emily gets the mark and Corvo/Daud together have the opportunity to kill Daud, Delilah, Granny rags, and the royal torturer).
Time to dig through all the shreds of lore in both games once it comes out in 12 days.
Emily too
At the time though. Emily gets it 15 years later for the 2nd game
Erwin Thomas in a large reddit q and a thing that Harvey and the Dishonored team ran, it's confirmed both granny rags and the Royal torturer were killed by Corvo.
Erwin Thomas Corvo survives obviously, Daud was spared though we don't know much more other than "Daud is alive, though at the time of Dishonored 2 he is not in the greatest of health" (that's my rough memory of what Harvey said). Delilah is trapped within the painting. I've no clue about the unnamed woman.
Corvo and Daud means there is two confirmed people with the mark, as Delilah is evidently alive in Dishonored 2 we can say there is three, with the addition of Emily bringing it to four. There is the possibility that we don't learn more about the unnamed woman, but I doubt that. So we can assume she is alive. Bringing it to five. Of course others could have been marked within that time.
Please keep doing this series. It's amazingly insightful.
Nice!
I just love videos picking apart lore and meanings.
Keep up the good work.
This is awesome! Thank you so much for making it! I love the mythos of Dishonored but don't have time to explore every nook and cranny and piece everything together with scattered walls of text. By making it a documentary, you've really let me dive into the lore an enjoy the universe so much more!
Dark Souls music to show you are a true "elite" video game historian lol. I'm subbing I just finished Death Of The Outsider. Can't believe this franchise was wrapped up so quickly!
Just found this in preparation of the next game, love this episode! Looking forward to the next!
I hope to see this channel blow up. Your content is top quality and the details portrayed is amazing. Thank you for your time.
I wish you still made videos.
You’re too good at this.
So much effort went into this, I instantly subscribed. Looking forward to the future of this channel 😉
Dishonored and Bloodborne are the only neo-gothic stories that understand how imaginative new weird fiction can be when used right. Dark fantasy, cosmic horror and the weird have a lot of fluid overlap.
Just found this channel, will be watching a lot of these especially Dishonored and Bioshock
My expedition on consuming any and all Dishonored has got the TH-cam algorithm working in my favor
:'D
As someone who loves listening to scary stories or mysteries or top 10 ghosts here, I LOVE how your video has the same chill, spooky air that I adore from those videos. Like something that pulls you in and keeps you in. Something that's definitely for a dark and rainy night, all tucked and cozy.
Spooky air + Dishonored lore, you have me HOOKED. And as a new subscriber :'D
Love the video! Now moving onto the next episode 🖤
Terrific work! Very thoroughly researched, with great presentation. I'm going dive into the rest of your videos now and subscribe. Great stuff!
Love the videos man! Your series are some of my favorite on youtube. They're very well done and show great potential to become a big hit as more videos come out. I look forward to seeing your future content!
Great episode my friend.
Thank god you managed to resolve whatever you issue you were having with youtube not working out your originally intended resolution. :)
Yea, for real. It was my fault though. It's still not perfect 1080p, but it's better than the ass quality it was before. I got help from another TH-camr, who explained what I did wrong.
Gameological Dig dude, it's really looking good now. It's like above standard good.
Any improvement to the quality of the video in your episodes is not needed, but appreciated.
Also, this episode is quite interesting. I had no idea about all the background information regarding the Outsider and how he connected to the void.
You corrected my thoughts about his origin, and for that i thank you.
I will cut myself some slack though. I only started really caring about lore after i started playing Dark Souls, and i played this one much earlier. :p
Anyways, keep doing what you are doing. :)
+KRIMZONMEKANISM Ha! For real, Dark Souls is like a gateway drug to lore. I know a bunch of people who were in the same boat as you. FromSoftware is responsible for breaking MAD cherries.
Gameological Dig Indeed. But none of Dark Souls games has had such amazing lore as bloodborne.
I haven't played in months and i still amuse myself by trying to figure out certain things about that game.
I'm telling you. If they make a sequel to Bloodborne, you should try to get in on that action, because the game's lore is so misterious that there are still people today working out the reasons why somethings are the way they are.
Look into "Redgrave" and "Jerks Sans Frontiers" their videos are not as well made as yours, but their content is awesome and very detailed.
They are also friends, and they share different oppinions.
Also, if you don't know about Bloodborne, here's just a funny quirk about it's conception:
The creator of Dark Souls read the entire horror book collection written by HP Lovecraft to draw inspiration.
If it sounds good, wait until you play it ;)
+KRIMZONMEKANISM Fuckin LOVE Bloodborne! I'm on my fourth playthrough now, building a bloodtinge/skill character. Got me the bowblade ASAP, and I'm using the Chikage, having the most fun with my current build.
Abd yea, I would love to do lore on BB, but the Vaati'sVidya of the world have got that covered, though if they decide to do a sequel (which I honestly don't want, but would play nonetheless), I MOST DEF would be all over it!
Great Video, I just recently played through both Dishonored games and can appreciate the time and care put into these videos. Now i'm off to check out the rest of your videos.
IAMChasingTheCool Dope! Dishonored is def a game that aging well. There's a lot of consideration that went into its lore and world building, and because the developers don't frame those things as pivotal information, casual gamers won't realize how good it is.
Damn, I look forward to more of these... There's like literally no good Dishonored Lore vids... Seems those are reserved for Soulsborne(Which they are fucken bad ass, not complaining)
This is what made me love dishonored, Characters besides daud and the outsider are nothing special, gameplay is fun, but it's nothing revolutionary and stories are good but not great. It's the lore and world that makes dishonored one of the best series ever!
I love this vid soooo much! I always try to find lore of any of the games i played and this is by far the best narrative lore i've ever heard! Can't wait for Part 2 man :D
The amount of effort you put into this is incredible. Great stuff.
I'm sure you get this a lot, but you sound very much like Ron Pearlman! Great video, I love in depth content like this. You got yourself a new sub! 👍
love these vids. still coming back to em
your narration is incredible!
The overseer counseling the men and their concerns of the outsider shows how much depth this game has. Ive just been drop assassinating them this whole time I didn't know how much dialogue they had
Well done in predicting the envisioned cult that was revealed in DOTO, word for word.
Loved every bit of it ! Thank you
Your channel is a hidden gem and I'm eternally happy I found it 💖
BY THE OUTSIDER! THIS IS THE VIDEO I WAS LOOKING FOR
Dude is narrating like Rod Serling. That’s an instant like from me.
Found this video when I wanted to refresh my Dishonored lore. Good job.
Very nice. This game will definitely suit you. First video was awesome!
I hope so! With a world this awesome, I'd like to spend as much time here as possible!
I think another potential (but very unlikely, or at least unintentional) parallel is to the Vodou lwa Baron Samdi. The “greater spirits” in Lwan tradition aren’t necessarily omnipotent in the way monotheistic or supreme gods are, but their power over their attributed domains is essentially absolute, a lot like the Outsider. They are also fickle and fallible, very human in certain ways, but still alien enough to not consider their inclinations and pursuits totally comprehensible by humans. They commonly act as analogues for the human experience with a given factor of life, but, again, are not human and so their relation to those things isn’t the same as to humans.
I specifically bring up Samdi, though, because he is the presider of the underworld/afterlife in Vodou. He also claims the many routes and traditions surrounding a person reaching the afterlife including murder, criminality, debauchery, chaos, death rites/funerals, cemeteries, healing, and resurrection. While he’s not known to give out super-natural powers like the Outsider, he is often attributed to observe mortal misdeeds, partially for his own genuine entertainment (as he’s portrayed as irreverent and amused by baser vices like smoking and drinking) but also to know how to regard them when they pass from life to death.
With the release of Death of the Outsider and Dishonored 2 and thus expanding on the lore it would be cool if you could cover it in future videos, such topics including creatures and whatnot, factions, and perhaps even the Abbey of the Everyman.
wow how did I not know about this videos? this is so interesting and awesome to watch for someone who played the game!
I have been searching for quality lore video on Dishonored for a long time. This, was very, very interesting. I am looking forward for more, especially on Daud. ''The Corroded Man'' came out not long ago, use it as new source of information. Anyway. Great video. Congratulation!
5:00
The void molds fate, makes coincidences line up for its own gain.
The Outsider was in the right place at the right time to be merged with the void. The void's influence on the cultist's was creating the fate that made them lead down that path.
I really love your voice man. Really makes me think of old tv show "The twilight zone" that i watched as a little kid.
I would argue that the Outsider provides his mark to people for more than just entertainment. Oh sure, that's a big reason, perhaps he even believes that's the only reason, but I see a different motivation. I think the Outsider wants to be proven wrong, I think he wants to believe that absolute power doesn't corrupt absolutely. He may sound entertained when you take the high chaos route, but he sounds awed (and once, actively expresses it - try visiting his shrines *after* you use the nonlethal target removals some times, very insightful) when you come up with a low chaos solution. He feels wonder when he sees someone who has been laid so low by fate, given absolute power and then choosing to use it with a deft and subtle hand.
High Chaos was what he was expecting - you're just a beaten animal, reacting to having the upper hand. Low Chaos is the stuff of storybook heroics.
This was an exellent lore video, thank you for creating this. Found your channel through this, you've definitely earned a sub.
7:43 Don't know why but "preternatural" has become one of my favorite words recently...more art than science but contains both of those things.
Man you should totally do a Dead Space analysis!
My take on the outsider is he is just a Eldritch god that gets bored sometimes so to entertain themselves he gives powers to humans that play into some kind of worldly drama just to see what will happen
that video was incredible, i love everything about it! keep up the good work my man :)
Awesome job man. I'm playing Dishonored again and it is so enjoyable, or more enjoyable to dive into the lore of the world whilst playing. Thank you for putting the time and effort into these videos. Hope to see more in the future if your able.
Subbed and liked. Cheers
These videos are awsome, youre great!
Aapo Kuusinen Thanks. I always appreciate a kind word or two.
This was brilliant man
Awesome job! You need to do many, many more of these. I will watch
in terms of the lonely rat boy, I can imagine him playing a large part in spreading the rat plague (though another character played a larger part). I'm also wondering how many rat swarms he set off it seems to imply one or two but since it's not stated this may be quite a few.
Not to compare you to another youtuber but this is vaati vidya quality stuff right here and I REALLY like what you're doing. You keep it original to yourself yet deliver content that is familiar and easy to grasp. You can bet that ill be coming back for more. Not to mention that ideal narrator voice of yours. keep up the good work! You don't just have a sub from me, but you've got a fan :)
I love this game and the lore and everything about it and this is one of the best vids iv seen on it subbed
Brilliant series! I found this channel via the SOMA videos. I do agree with some of the points where hearing "quote" and "und quote" repeatedly is a lil too much.
A possible solution to this problem would be to show the quoted text with the author at the bottom. That way, we'll know when the quote starts and when it ends without hearing "quote" and "und quote".
You can get creative with this, you don't have to show the whole text in one go, you can cut it up into small bits, show it like a typewriter, there's lots of options.
Just an idea from a guy who loves interface design...
Very well explained, I have always longed for a content creator with the same enjoyment for this games lore as myself
Fascinating video. Thank you for making it. Keep up the good work
Absolutly fucking amazing!!! So much detail, so many things Idk, so much research. Dude you earned a sub!!! Keep it up.
Very interested to see more. Always looking forward to your content GD.
Trevor Ratchford ahh ma boi you like tyler and dishonored.... We gotta meet you're my new friend jk thats weird
Love this video. Dishonured has a fantastic lore. Just bear the first game and can't wait to get into 2.
Btw your voice is amazing.
Delilah Copperstone? *DWAD?* WHY MUST YOU TORTURE ME
This is great really wish I had found this series earlier!
Bethesda has been known to make references to lovecraftian works. Such as the comparison of Herma Mora in Skyrim to Yog Sathoth
Amazing video dude! Like wow..... please I need more of this!
Great video m8 just subscribed! Please keep making more of these videos! (i love Dishonored!)
I really liked the video! Thanks for doing lore for a game nobody else is really doing stuff on. For future vids maybe turn down the music a bit; it was a little hard to hear you, especially in the beginning with the firelink music.
14:30 so to me this proves that the outsider dosnt only favour high chaos, Daud loses the interest of the outsider when he settled into the life of been a heartless killer, it’s only when Daud starts to feel guilty over his actions when Daud has a choice to make that the outsider becomes interested again, yes he never took the mark away but after Daud played his part and cut off his morals that’s when the outsider got board.
He dosnt favour one way or the other it’s the choice that interests him, seeing what you do now and pointing out the other path you could have taken.
I came for the dishonored lore I stayed for the sexy voice man.
thats the music from firelink shrine in Dark Souls 1
How the hell you don't have more subs??? Great video, liked subbed ;)
nice use of the firelink shrine music ;)
Got damn firelink shrine music. Beauty
I think the outsider just wants to give an opportunity to fight back against those who are in power, because he never got one himself.
Yo man, so freaking nice and detailed video :D
When will the second episode be up?
Thanks! Sometime this week most likely!
Can't wait :D
actually really enjoyed it, amazing work
i could listen to this guy's voice all day
brilliantly explained
This may seem very off topic, but I find when the Outsider ask Daud a question, it's very interesting. Specifically the question of, "Did you know that there are eight people in the world bearing my mark?" (My wording is probably incorrect, sorry). I find this interesting because of how theOutsider says it, the question seems informative. Thought it's still a question. Why I find this interesting is that Daud actually has a lot of knowledge of "important" people in the world, and I'm not saying he would know of them all, but I think he did create a list of the few he knew that were marked (I could be incorrect, but I believe he did).
Heath Dan it would make sense, if you have power that makes you more powerful than others, and you are a character like daud, you would keep an eye on these characters, either to make sure they don't come after you, or to try and enlist them. Either way, daud would be careful and keep tabs on them.
Amazing video and great voice!
I‘d say the even bigger thing to attract the Outsiders attention is ‚to be interesting‘.
Sokolov was an influential individual who changed many lives and worked hard to communicate with the Void but the Outsider basically just left swiped him cause ‚boring‘
I think he prefers low chaos.
When you indiscriminately swing your sword he keeps nagging you. In dishonored 2 he literally challenges you to change the workd without spilling an ocean of blood. Furthermore, after Daud becomes an Assassin, the Outsider loses interest in him. He only reappears to Daud after he regrets killing the Empress and seriously considers quitting his job as the Whaler's leader.