Great video about an automotive icon.. A few extra characteristics of the SM and other hydropneumatic Citroens include.. * Under braking the front & rear squat - no nosedive or instability * There was a load proportioning valve between front & rear brakes, according to vehicle load and strength of squeezing or stomping on the brake mushroom * You could drive on 3 wheels with one rear wheel removed * If you suffered a blow out on a front wheels - no loss of control in steering and brakes. Charles de Gaul was ambushed by snippers and his chauffeur was able to speed away with 2 wheels shot out. * If you have a rear wheel blow out you may hear it before you feel it. * The self leveling suspension had 3 driving heights, plus full height for wheel changing & flooded streams and lowest for servicing, wheel changing and looking cool. * Being able to raise and lower the suspension assisted passengers getting in and out. Particularly the elderly... we before SUVs. * Fantastic tow cars because of the short distance between the rear wheels and tow ball, plus self levelling. Winding the jockey wheel was unnecessary with changing the level of the car or wagon. * The DS & SM & Traction were all technically mid engined with the motor behind the gearbox... I suggest anyone who blanket criticizes Citroens has never driven one unless it had never been properly serviced.... The last real Citroens were the C6 and C4 Cactus. 2CVs are an icon in themselves - at the opposite end to the SM... Vive la Difference.... Manifique...
In 1978 I had a year in London at age 24 over from Australia. Had the privilege of custodianship of new 2CV6 Club, CX 2400 EFI 5 speed Prestige - plus RR Silver Shadow II... The Prestige has the SM type DIRAVI self centring power steering with 2.5 turns v 2.0. It has the same wheel base as the DS & SM and longer than the Shadow, which also had Citroen suspension under license... All passengers including my parents preferred the Prestige to the Roller for ride and seat comfort... Being a late 70s British car the Shadow suffered lots of foibles - including a "Failure to Proceed" near Stonehenge aged 3 weeks old... and loss of power steering fluid twice, loss of all lights mid corner with the local police chief in Sweden in the front passenger's seat. Even got the Shadow back from service with the rear suspension dragging its bum because of a stuck height corrector... did I mention a small cluster of bubbles in the woodwork in the dashboard or metal filings on the boot carpet where they had drilled for the rear number plate..?! Talk about SM foibles when launched... what about the fabulous Triumph Stag???
As a kid (and I do mean kid, like 12-, 13-, 14-year old), I worked at my dad's garage every summer. He had a customer who owned THREE of these Citroens ... and these were the ONLY cars I was not allowed to work on. I also never drove one, not even into the garage nor onto the rack.
Some trivia/fun facts about te Citroën SM (SM stands for "Sa Majesté" = her majesty): As far as I know it was the most powerful front-wheel driven car of it's era (not just one of the), This flag was taken over by another quirky/funky/luxurious performance car of the 80's and early 90's: the Lancia Thema 8.32 (with an 8 cylinder Ferrari engine with 32 valves - taken from the 308 QV), which I have owned. There's another movie in which you can see the SM (though briefly); Zoolander (2001), in which Ben Stiller as the main character "Zoolander" is kidnapped in an SM(!), very funny and action packed movie. One of the best football players of all time: Johan Cruyff owned one. Those were my trivia and also: there was one standing often at the other end of the street where I live, unfortunately I never met the owner (in the Netherlands, btw you still sometimes see them here). Oh and one more thing, there are Citroën SM enthusiasts clubs, but if you search for "SM club" you might land on quite different sites.
Patrick McGoohan drove a version of this one in a Columbo episode from 1975 ("Identity Crisis"). He played an uber-stylish, over-the-top CIA operative combining James Bond with many nods to "The Prisoner," including that dark blue jacket with the white piping, and saying "Be seeing you" a few times.
Thank you for your feedback and thank you for for still watching, most especially! I wish i had the resources to physically find and see the car to give a more detailed and personalized review =/. But for now, I'll continue to use existing footage and try to deliver quality content around it then hopefully in the future I can deliver the more genuine reviews; would definitely be more fun for sure! Hope you still consider subscribing and providing feedback so that I can make better improvements to my videos. Thank you!
Thank you for supporting our small channel! We're going to continue to make better content so any more feedback would greatly appreciated! And tbh, I actually wouldn't mind owning one one day! 🙏 I'm really amazed at the technology it had at such a time!
i colect cars , cheap or ofered this and the Stratos are the both ones that i really wanted and got away , i almost forget the Ferrari daytona too, as far as citroen goes the tracion avant as it was called was already a confortable car, the DS 19 to the 22 were very interesting cars ,Rolls Royce when the brand still existed asked citroen permission to use it´s hidraulic system when the release of the siver shadow , Mercedes at the time built it´s own hidraulic system who was in fact efective but almost no one today knows how it worked, avoid buying one if it as any problem or soon to have it, the repair would cost a lot more than the car and with this i refered the best cars around in the early 70´s, the SM wasn´t a regular citroen as it had better finishings at a high level of luxury and power like no other from this excelent brand with it Maserati engine, a lot called it citroen maserati . The Xantia till mid 90´s was using the same system only after 95 they started to have solved the one problem refered by many, the steering felt too loose at high speeds but i never notice any problem if not so talked about when they changed the steering to a more hard to turn at high speeds, this is still today a very classy car and expensive if working without a problem
wow , the production quality is amazing for such a new channel imma hit the sub button so I can enjoy it before it turns to shit by sponsors and advertisers
Thank you. We're still working on the kinks, but we'll be making it better for sure! Thank you for your support! This is a big endeavor for me and your support really keeps me going! Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
The biturbo engine was only based on the SM engine, but it was completely different, not only was an SOHC instead a DOHC, but also the position of the valve timing chain, 3 valves per cylinder instead 2 etc etc
Frenchman here. Once upon a time Citroën was a great brand manufacturing unique vehicles. Nowadays it's just a mainstream sub-brand of the Stellantis group that manufactures mainstream cars like umpteen others. Welcome to our new automobile world of bland clones.
I don't see the relation between the 1973 oil crisis and the dwindling sales of luxury cars. Were the rich and wealthy suddenly buying VW's and Fiat's because of the gas guzzling cars?
Gas guzzling cars were having a very difficult time (see for example the highly praised the BMW 2002 turbo, it was a commercial flop and production stopped rather soon and there are more such examples). The rich and famous are always more drawn to Rolls Royce, Ferrari or a top model Mercedes - BMW 7 didn't exist yet. In other words: cars of which even people who know nothing about cars can see that they must be expensive (and the rich and famous - except maybe for a few petrol heads among them - are usually not immediately drawn to the technically most innovatie cars). Do you see the relation now? FYI: "The reaction from the German government was unambiguous in 1973: To save valuable fuel, it imposed four car-free Sundays and a 6-month autobahn speed limit of 100 km/h." In the Netherlands - where there was also no speed limit on the highways at the time, we got exactly the same thing (although they never lifted the speed limit, they made it 120 (in 1988!) and 130 a few years ago, which was turned back pretty soon to 100 in the daytime (between 6:00 and 19:00) and I don't remember exactly how much car-free Sundays we got, but it was fun rollerskating on the highway.
You're "Diving" into it because you generally couldn't "Drive" them much when new...now that they are in their 50's, good luck with that! Citroen bought Maserati back then, just lopped 2 cylinders off the V8. So it's a French-Italian product (much like Stellantis garbage today!) that, although it aimed high, failed to hold up
Citroën's engine choices were always considered it weakest point. The DS should have become a 6 cylinder boxer engine but that failed. Then the experiment with the Bi-Rotor which also failed. They were ahead of their time in many ways, but not with engines. The best engine was for the GS models, the 4 cyl. boxers, they proved to be reliable and efficient. In later years Citroën was absorbed by Peugeot/PSA and no 'real' Citroëns were made any more. They still produced excellent vehicles, like the CX, BX and Xantia, but the time of real innovation was over. Nowadays nothing is left of the former quirkiness of the Marque. I myself like the models untill the early seventies and drove them too, later models are no REAL Citroëns anymore. Fench cars are the best in comfort and for all layers of the population, that's French genius.
Maserati produced a proto by 'lopping' off two cylinders - but production engines were a bit more sophisticated than that. The 2.7L engines were quite reliable if one simple modification was done. The 3L were a different story - due to the way the capacity was increased.
@@corvanha1 - have to respond, sorry. The CX was the last 'true' Cit - developed prior to the Peugeot take over in 1975. We have two D's, a 2CV, and an XM - living in the US makes us a bit of an outlier :). The D's engines, while being a bit antiquated, were quite ample for what the car was really designed for - long distance driving minus fatigue - and economically. Both my 72 DS21 Pallas and 69 Break, routinely, get 27 to 29 mpg at 70 or so on the freeway. As to the latter models not being 'true' Cits'. Just because they sharded some components with other PSA models, they were still unique. None of the PSA cars had the DRAVI steering, the divided braking system where the rear brakes got pressure based on the actual weight over the rear wheels, nor the hydraulic suspension. When people ask what it is like driving the XM - the simple answer is it is like driving an SM with a hell of a lot or rear legroom :).
AI generated writing, AI generated voice, random Citroen SM and Citroen DS videos pulled. The SM was not a car from the future, and it was a cr@pbox back in the day, and is worse today. It's complicated technical systems including the hydromatic suspension were wonderful innovations but built 'off course', with your well known french lazy uninterested build quality and attention. In other words, instead of using proper materials, they used way too cheap materials that failed even faster. Making it beyond unreliable and worst of it all, because of the complicated system, it was not cheap but expensive to repair and maintain. It was complicated in the 70s, it's worse in the 2020s, as it's now a 50 plus year old car and parts are virtually non-existent. On top of that, the french roads are sh*t today, and were even worse sh*t back in the day, which made the strain on the car even worse back in the day. Today, 'lovers of classics' snatch up these cars whom are mostly not from France, but live in countries where the roads are vastly better, like the Netherlands and Germany. All viewed with a unobjective eye. Apart from complicated, these systems failed many times, and on top of that the cars were large, long, and hard to park with not that great visibility and the materials weren't luxurious at all, especialyl considering the bonkers buying price of this vehicle in the 70s. It's ride was not 'like on glass' (what kind of stupid AI phrase is that anyway), it was like a boat riding on way too big waves and made occupants road sick and nauseous. To make matters worse, it rusted like crazy. In reality, this car, in the 70s especially, was a greatly overpriced, greatly complicated, unreliable, unpractical, uneconomical, low build quality car from a brand on the verge of potential bankruptcy, from a brand that only dusty, boring, uninterested, old people might have interest in, in an ever changing technical market, where you could buy reliable, comfortable, sporty, cheaper, very economical, and cheap to maintain cars (especially from Japan), and Citroen made an expensive dancing block. this video is clearly AI made by somebody that has not even the slightest clue what the car actually really was.
wow thank you for your feedback! My team assures me that they are not using AI, but tbh, I don't fully disagree with your opinion. I will continue to work on making my videos better for more quality and genuine content, and your feedback will definitely be considered throughout the process. You also seem to have in-depth knowledge of the vehicle! Did you happen to own one yourself? I hope you subscribe and continue to give feedback on my videos. Comments like yours is what will help me produce much better content about the cars we all want to learn about! Thank you again!
Have you actually driven one - or even started to delve into one? I had a 72, that I bought used in 1983. Given the miles on it, I rebuild the engine and made a couple of simple modification. I put some 60,000+ miles on SM in one year with narry a problem.The Cit manual gearboxes were almost legendary in their strength and longevity. The suspension system is/was only complicated if one did not take a bit of time to understand how it was built. My 72 DS21 BVH (semi-auto tranny) has over 600,000 miles on the original transmission/drive chain. Same brake units front and back, same engine - that I rebuild at just over 400,000 miles. And compared to anything else being built at the time - they were from the future as it would be at least 60+ years what Cit did with D and then the SM even begin to be seen in so-called modern cars. And it was done sans computers - just through 'out side' the box thinking and precision machine work. Other that the engine and steering - the SM was basically a D in a sexy body. As to your other comments. ALL cars rusted like hell back then. Folks back East typically had two cars - one they used just in the winter. Rode in a cab in NYC in the late 60's and had more air coming into the back seat via the floor boards than the windows. My 72 SM routinely got 22+ MPG on trips (75 mph or so) - my D's still get 28+. As to your experience with a 'wallowing ride' - the suspension was not correctly set up. The early cars were quite configurable - and could be completely screwed up if the person working in it failed to just take a bit of time, like a 1/2 hour so, to read up on the correct way. And this is starting to scratch the surface of what they came up with the D and then incorporated into the SM/CX/BX/XM, etc.
@@manoahvanderwolf3259 Sorry if you cannot handle the truth. All cars of that vintage require a hell of a lot more maintenance than current cars. Cits were no different. Just different in what you needed to do. And a lot of folks did not. Again - have you ever actually driven one or even old enough to have ever owned from new? And what am I lying about? The control valves/pistons in the Cit system hold 2500psi of pressure sans O-rings - just from machining tolerances - and the method they used 70 years ago is still used today to get those same tolerances - +0 to -0.000025". And Cit pioneered those tolerances on a production basis. As I said, other than the DRAVI steering and engine, the SM is just a D in a sexy body. D's were available with that exact same 5 speed tranny from 1970.
Why would you even bother watching a video about a car you clearly don't rate? I certainly wouldn't waste my time watching videos about cars I didn't like? Do watch films you don't like too? Or listen to music you don't like?
Great video about an automotive icon..
A few extra characteristics of the SM and other hydropneumatic Citroens include..
* Under braking the front & rear squat - no nosedive or instability
* There was a load proportioning valve between front & rear brakes, according to vehicle load and strength of squeezing or stomping on the brake mushroom
* You could drive on 3 wheels with one rear wheel removed
* If you suffered a blow out on a front wheels - no loss of control in steering and brakes. Charles de Gaul was ambushed by snippers and his chauffeur was able to speed away with 2 wheels shot out.
* If you have a rear wheel blow out you may hear it before you feel it.
* The self leveling suspension had 3 driving heights, plus full height for wheel changing & flooded streams and lowest for servicing, wheel changing and looking cool.
* Being able to raise and lower the suspension assisted passengers getting in and out. Particularly the elderly... we before SUVs.
* Fantastic tow cars because of the short distance between the rear wheels and tow ball, plus self levelling. Winding the jockey wheel was unnecessary with changing the level of the car or wagon.
* The DS & SM & Traction were all technically mid engined with the motor behind the gearbox...
I suggest anyone who blanket criticizes Citroens has never driven one unless it had never been properly serviced....
The last real Citroens were the C6 and C4 Cactus.
2CVs are an icon in themselves - at the opposite end to the SM...
Vive la Difference.... Manifique...
In 1978 I had a year in London at age 24 over from Australia.
Had the privilege of custodianship of new 2CV6 Club, CX 2400 EFI 5 speed Prestige - plus RR Silver Shadow II...
The Prestige has the SM type DIRAVI self centring power steering with 2.5 turns v 2.0.
It has the same wheel base as the DS & SM and longer than the Shadow, which also had Citroen suspension under license...
All passengers including my parents preferred the Prestige to the Roller for ride and seat comfort...
Being a late 70s British car the Shadow suffered lots of foibles - including a "Failure to Proceed" near Stonehenge aged 3 weeks old... and loss of power steering fluid twice, loss of all lights mid corner with the local police chief in Sweden in the front passenger's seat.
Even got the Shadow back from service with the rear suspension dragging its bum because of a stuck height corrector... did I mention a small cluster of bubbles in the woodwork in the dashboard or metal filings on the boot carpet where they had drilled for the rear number plate..?!
Talk about SM foibles when launched... what about the fabulous Triumph Stag???
As a kid (and I do mean kid, like 12-, 13-, 14-year old), I worked at my dad's garage every summer. He had a customer who owned THREE of these Citroens ... and these were the ONLY cars I was not allowed to work on. I also never drove one, not even into the garage nor onto the rack.
That opening scene in The Longest Yard is so bittersweet to re-watch because in my first watching I went from euphoria to shock and devastation.
Some trivia/fun facts about te Citroën SM (SM stands for "Sa Majesté" = her majesty): As far as I know it was the most powerful front-wheel driven car of it's era (not just one of the), This flag was taken over by another quirky/funky/luxurious performance car of the 80's and early 90's: the Lancia Thema 8.32 (with an 8 cylinder Ferrari engine with 32 valves - taken from the 308 QV), which I have owned. There's another movie in which you can see the SM (though briefly); Zoolander (2001), in which Ben Stiller as the main character "Zoolander" is kidnapped in an SM(!), very funny and action packed movie. One of the best football players of all time: Johan Cruyff owned one.
Those were my trivia and also: there was one standing often at the other end of the street where I live, unfortunately I never met the owner (in the Netherlands, btw you still sometimes see them here).
Oh and one more thing, there are Citroën SM enthusiasts clubs, but if you search for "SM club" you might land on quite different sites.
Thank you for sharing!
Patrick McGoohan drove a version of this one in a Columbo episode from 1975 ("Identity Crisis"). He played an uber-stylish, over-the-top CIA operative combining James Bond with many nods to "The Prisoner," including that dark blue jacket with the white piping, and saying "Be seeing you" a few times.
Great video thanks
That’s my car (and video) showing off the rain-sensing wipers! 😂
🤣 hope your Citoren is still in great working condition!
@@mancavechannelcars she is! smrevival.wordpress.com/2023/07/24/eye-candy/
It looks like this video was made without anyone approaching the SM, just using existing footage.. but I watched it anyways!
Thank you for your feedback and thank you for for still watching, most especially! I wish i had the resources to physically find and see the car to give a more detailed and personalized review =/. But for now, I'll continue to use existing footage and try to deliver quality content around it then hopefully in the future I can deliver the more genuine reviews; would definitely be more fun for sure! Hope you still consider subscribing and providing feedback so that I can make better improvements to my videos. Thank you!
Still super valuable video and very informative !!! You should see one someday
yes , but how nice it looks and explains it perfectelly, no new footage of a SM would explain it so well
Thank you for supporting our small channel! We're going to continue to make better content so any more feedback would greatly appreciated! And tbh, I actually wouldn't mind owning one one day! 🙏 I'm really amazed at the technology it had at such a time!
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i colect cars , cheap or ofered this and the Stratos are the both ones that i really wanted and got away , i almost forget the Ferrari daytona too, as far as citroen goes the tracion avant as it was called was already a confortable car, the DS 19 to the 22 were very interesting cars ,Rolls Royce when the brand still existed asked citroen permission to use it´s hidraulic system when the release of the siver shadow , Mercedes at the time built it´s own hidraulic system who was in fact efective but almost no one today knows how it worked, avoid buying one if it as any problem or soon to have it, the repair would cost a lot more than the car and with this i refered the best cars around in the early 70´s, the SM wasn´t a regular citroen as it had better finishings at a high level of luxury and power like no other from this excelent brand with it Maserati engine, a lot called it citroen maserati .
The Xantia till mid 90´s was using the same system only after 95 they started to have solved the one problem refered by many, the steering felt too loose at high speeds but i never notice any problem if not so talked about when they changed the steering to a more hard to turn at high speeds, this is still today a very classy car and expensive if working without a problem
Thank you for your knowledge! We might make a video on the DS!
Citroën owned Maserati in the late sixties.
wow , the production quality is amazing for such a new channel
imma hit the sub button so I can enjoy it before it turns to shit by sponsors and advertisers
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I agree! The second video though was repetitive but this first video was great for a first! Keep it up!
The biturbo engine was only based on the SM engine, but it was completely different, not only was an SOHC instead a DOHC, but also the position of the valve timing chain, 3 valves per cylinder instead 2 etc etc
I've owned 3 SM's in my life.
Whoa! Man how much was that car at that time? Those features were way ahead at that time.
Thank you!
In the US the base SM price was about 12 grand.
@@citroenfan8930but bare in mind a new caddy or lincoln was about 6k
Nice
Frenchman here. Once upon a time Citroën was a great brand manufacturing unique vehicles. Nowadays it's just a mainstream sub-brand of the Stellantis group that manufactures mainstream cars like umpteen others. Welcome to our new automobile world of bland clones.
I don't see the relation between the 1973 oil crisis and the dwindling sales of luxury cars. Were the rich and wealthy suddenly buying VW's and Fiat's because of the gas guzzling cars?
Gas guzzling cars were having a very difficult time (see for example the highly praised the BMW 2002 turbo, it was a commercial flop and production stopped rather soon and there are more such examples). The rich and famous are always more drawn to Rolls Royce, Ferrari or a top model Mercedes - BMW 7 didn't exist yet. In other words: cars of which even people who know nothing about cars can see that they must be expensive (and the rich and famous - except maybe for a few petrol heads among them - are usually not immediately drawn to the technically most innovatie cars). Do you see the relation now?
FYI: "The reaction from the German government was unambiguous in 1973: To save valuable fuel, it imposed four car-free Sundays and a 6-month autobahn speed limit of 100 km/h." In the Netherlands - where there was also no speed limit on the highways at the time, we got exactly the same thing (although they never lifted the speed limit, they made it 120 (in 1988!) and 130 a few years ago, which was turned back pretty soon to 100 in the daytime (between 6:00 and 19:00) and I don't remember exactly how much car-free Sundays we got, but it was fun rollerskating on the highway.
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thank you!
Cooler thsn today’s supercars, frankly not too hard to do.
it was a really cool car for it's time, imo. I would have it in my collection if ever I had one, for sure!
@@mancavechannelcars it is a beautiful design.
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thank yoU!
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You're "Diving" into it because you generally couldn't "Drive" them much when new...now that they are in their 50's, good luck with that! Citroen bought Maserati back then, just lopped 2 cylinders off the V8. So it's a French-Italian product (much like Stellantis garbage today!) that, although it aimed high, failed to hold up
Citroën's engine choices were always considered it weakest point. The DS should have become a 6 cylinder boxer engine but that failed. Then the experiment with the Bi-Rotor which also failed. They were ahead of their time in many ways, but not with engines. The best engine was for the GS models, the 4 cyl. boxers, they proved to be reliable and efficient. In later years Citroën was absorbed by Peugeot/PSA and no 'real' Citroëns were made any more. They still produced excellent vehicles, like the CX, BX and Xantia, but the time of real innovation was over. Nowadays nothing is left of the former quirkiness of the Marque. I myself like the models untill the early seventies and drove them too, later models are no REAL Citroëns anymore. Fench cars are the best in comfort and for all layers of the population, that's French genius.
Maserati produced a proto by 'lopping' off two cylinders - but production engines were a bit more sophisticated than that. The 2.7L engines were quite reliable if one simple modification was done. The 3L were a different story - due to the way the capacity was increased.
@@corvanha1 - have to respond, sorry. The CX was the last 'true' Cit - developed prior to the Peugeot take over in 1975. We have two D's, a 2CV, and an XM - living in the US makes us a bit of an outlier :). The D's engines, while being a bit antiquated, were quite ample for what the car was really designed for - long distance driving minus fatigue - and economically. Both my 72 DS21 Pallas and 69 Break, routinely, get 27 to 29 mpg at 70 or so on the freeway. As to the latter models not being 'true' Cits'. Just because they sharded some components with other PSA models, they were still unique. None of the PSA cars had the DRAVI steering, the divided braking system where the rear brakes got pressure based on the actual weight over the rear wheels, nor the hydraulic suspension. When people ask what it is like driving the XM - the simple answer is it is like driving an SM with a hell of a lot or rear legroom :).
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Thank you!
AI generated writing, AI generated voice, random Citroen SM and Citroen DS videos pulled.
The SM was not a car from the future, and it was a cr@pbox back in the day, and is worse today. It's complicated technical systems including the hydromatic suspension were wonderful innovations but built 'off course', with your well known french lazy uninterested build quality and attention. In other words, instead of using proper materials, they used way too cheap materials that failed even faster.
Making it beyond unreliable and worst of it all, because of the complicated system, it was not cheap but expensive to repair and maintain. It was complicated in the 70s, it's worse in the 2020s, as it's now a 50 plus year old car and parts are virtually non-existent.
On top of that, the french roads are sh*t today, and were even worse sh*t back in the day, which made the strain on the car even worse back in the day. Today, 'lovers of classics' snatch up these cars whom are mostly not from France, but live in countries where the roads are vastly better, like the Netherlands and Germany. All viewed with a unobjective eye.
Apart from complicated, these systems failed many times, and on top of that the cars were large, long, and hard to park with not that great visibility and the materials weren't luxurious at all, especialyl considering the bonkers buying price of this vehicle in the 70s.
It's ride was not 'like on glass' (what kind of stupid AI phrase is that anyway), it was like a boat riding on way too big waves and made occupants road sick and nauseous.
To make matters worse, it rusted like crazy.
In reality, this car, in the 70s especially, was a greatly overpriced, greatly complicated, unreliable, unpractical, uneconomical, low build quality car from a brand on the verge of potential bankruptcy, from a brand that only dusty, boring, uninterested, old people might have interest in, in an ever changing technical market, where you could buy reliable, comfortable, sporty, cheaper, very economical, and cheap to maintain cars (especially from Japan), and Citroen made an expensive dancing block.
this video is clearly AI made by somebody that has not even the slightest clue what the car actually really was.
wow thank you for your feedback! My team assures me that they are not using AI, but tbh, I don't fully disagree with your opinion. I will continue to work on making my videos better for more quality and genuine content, and your feedback will definitely be considered throughout the process. You also seem to have in-depth knowledge of the vehicle! Did you happen to own one yourself? I hope you subscribe and continue to give feedback on my videos. Comments like yours is what will help me produce much better content about the cars we all want to learn about! Thank you again!
Have you actually driven one - or even started to delve into one? I had a 72, that I bought used in 1983. Given the miles on it, I rebuild the engine and made a couple of simple modification. I put some 60,000+ miles on SM in one year with narry a problem.The Cit manual gearboxes were almost legendary in their strength and longevity. The suspension system is/was only complicated if one did not take a bit of time to understand how it was built. My 72 DS21 BVH (semi-auto tranny) has over 600,000 miles on the original transmission/drive chain. Same brake units front and back, same engine - that I rebuild at just over 400,000 miles. And compared to anything else being built at the time - they were from the future as it would be at least 60+ years what Cit did with D and then the SM even begin to be seen in so-called modern cars. And it was done sans computers - just through 'out side' the box thinking and precision machine work. Other that the engine and steering - the SM was basically a D in a sexy body. As to your other comments. ALL cars rusted like hell back then. Folks back East typically had two cars - one they used just in the winter. Rode in a cab in NYC in the late 60's and had more air coming into the back seat via the floor boards than the windows. My 72 SM routinely got 22+ MPG on trips (75 mph or so) - my D's still get 28+. As to your experience with a 'wallowing ride' - the suspension was not correctly set up. The early cars were quite configurable - and could be completely screwed up if the person working in it failed to just take a bit of time, like a 1/2 hour so, to read up on the correct way. And this is starting to scratch the surface of what they came up with the D and then incorporated into the SM/CX/BX/XM, etc.
@@citroenfan8930 stop lying
@@manoahvanderwolf3259 Sorry if you cannot handle the truth. All cars of that vintage require a hell of a lot more maintenance than current cars. Cits were no different. Just different in what you needed to do. And a lot of folks did not. Again - have you ever actually driven one or even old enough to have ever owned from new? And what am I lying about? The control valves/pistons in the Cit system hold 2500psi of pressure sans O-rings - just from machining tolerances - and the method they used 70 years ago is still used today to get those same tolerances - +0 to -0.000025". And Cit pioneered those tolerances on a production basis. As I said, other than the DRAVI steering and engine, the SM is just a D in a sexy body. D's were available with that exact same 5 speed tranny from 1970.
Why would you even bother watching a video about a car you clearly don't rate? I certainly wouldn't waste my time watching videos about cars I didn't like? Do watch films you don't like too? Or listen to music you don't like?
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