WC3 - [ORC] Lyn vs Fortitude [HU] - GRAND FINAL - Warcraft 3 All-Star League - S1 - M3

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    🏆 Warcraft 3 All-Star League - Season 1 - Monthly 3 • WC3 - [UD] Sheik vs Si...
    Playoffs - Grandfinal
    [ORC] Lyn vs Fortitude [HU]
    Cast by: Neo
    Date: May 26th, 2024
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  • @kylehodson8542
    @kylehodson8542 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    The invul storm bolt dodge from an invisible mountain king on echo isles might be the greatest play I've seen all year.

    • @user-bm8lb9se3l
      @user-bm8lb9se3l 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      All time easily.

    • @Samuel-wq9dt
      @Samuel-wq9dt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      48:17 btw

    • @lynzhu6934
      @lynzhu6934 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Probably all time

  • @PK13719
    @PK13719 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    !Spoilershield!

    • @Biobin123
      @Biobin123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Either hu wins or orc!

    • @nakiriumdose792
      @nakiriumdose792 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Biobin123where is the Undead?

    • @dariuszdzwigala5602
      @dariuszdzwigala5602 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@nakiriumdose792F**k undead! 😊

  • @luckylarry71
    @luckylarry71 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    After that win vs Happy, Lyn could literally walk on water or turn water into wine and still have the same indifferent, half-awake expression on him the whole time, no doubt.

  • @alftheim
    @alftheim 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    so happy to see orc and LYN win, he deserve it really

    • @dans4181
      @dans4181 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      spoiler block? like.......

  • @brey111
    @brey111 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Lyn ascended to Godhood

    • @fanzheng6480
      @fanzheng6480 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have to say, Forti figured out how to play happy on and off, he hasn't figured out Lyn yet. The second game looked close, but in reality 1 gold mine vs 2 loses the majority of the time.

    • @RobinVerhaegen
      @RobinVerhaegen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@fanzheng6480 exactly: the option to buy items over and over and tavern buy the TC won it

    • @HiddenWen
      @HiddenWen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's already the god of orc!

  • @lightweightjive
    @lightweightjive 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I’m sure it’s been suggested many times, but could there be like 30 mins of “dead time” added to the end of the casts, particularly epic tournament finals like this one, and semis like happy’s series? It seems tedious but for the excitement of viewers watching the vod later, it takes some of the suspense out of the series knowing one person is up 3-1 and there’s only 15-20 minutes left. It isn’t really an issue, the games are still unbelievable!

    • @fanzheng6480
      @fanzheng6480 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I wouldn't mind hearing what Lyn said after the game if there is a short interview.

    • @lightweightjive
      @lightweightjive 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@fanzheng6480 that’s a great idea, an interview with happy also would be awesome.

    • @fanzheng6480
      @fanzheng6480 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lightweightjive Forti is always expressive after wins, but I have no idea what was he saying, maybe something to his fans or something like "I am the best".

    • @ronniegirardot9613
      @ronniegirardot9613 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dead time is HORRENDOUS on the YT algorithm. I too would absolutely love extended videos to avoid spoilers, but unfortunately thats a very bad business decision.

  • @dantonkull6491
    @dantonkull6491 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    The TC dodging the bolt twice on echo isles was insane

  • @DA_Petrov
    @DA_Petrov 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Congrats to the winner, truly deserved!
    Great perfomance.

  • @jr-vb3zo
    @jr-vb3zo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    idol Lyn since 2007

  • @comedyclubpodcast
    @comedyclubpodcast 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You know the game is good when Neo reacts like this 🎉❤

  • @mrzarter4227
    @mrzarter4227 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Lyn is riding the Chain-Wave to a 1-0 victory!" Excellent cast as always Neo! gg

  • @wiley2592
    @wiley2592 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This whole grand final was insane

  • @PoWeRGhuLOKO
    @PoWeRGhuLOKO 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    48:20 I've watched 1000 replays in my life, but I've never seen anything like this. Timing of all time.

    • @giantenemycrab420
      @giantenemycrab420 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What am I watching here I'm a noob

    • @killaknut
      @killaknut 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@giantenemycrab420 Mountain King is invisible, so Lyn cannot see. Then MK throws a storm bolt at TC, from right next to him, which leaves only a very small window to activate the invulnerability potion before the bolt hits.
      Given MK wasn't visible and there was extremely little time to react, this is very well done by Lyn.

  • @user-yp1tp7hf3f
    @user-yp1tp7hf3f 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I've said it before that I believe that, pound-for-pound, Lyn is the greatest WC3 player of all times, held bad by the fact that he plays the most restrictive and reactive race in WC3(Orc cannot come up with many innovative openings and strats because it must react to what opponent is doing.). CComing from an OG like myself that has been watching pro WC3 since 2005, this statement carries weight.
    But what we saw in this tournament is simply ridiculous. I am starting to question if Lyn is actually a Human Being or a completely different species. He dodged Hammer Throw not once but two times. Then, he timed the invul potion to match just the exact time of invisibility to kill MK. That was beyond ridiculous. Who the FK does this in real time? Just stop it, dude. It's actually gross at this point. Lyn treated a high-tier 2,550 MMR Grandmaster like Forti like he didn't even belong there with him. The gap in skill is so big that Lyn was flexing on Fortitude. Who flexes on a 2,550 tier-A Grandmaster like this?
    What makes Lyn so special is that he combines the best precisions and timing ever(yes, better than even Happy's) with being a true RTS player. Lyn is a true RTS player. It's often said that Orc players are the kind of people that prefer playing DOTA over RTS, because so much of Orc's game play revolves around it's heroes. But Lyn combines his god-like precision and timing with a macro ability that is outstanding. Lyn has a 6th sense when it comes to knowing when to attack and to retreat, when to expand and when to stay in one base, where he and his opponent are in the map at all times, and extraordinary skill in managing his resources. Lyn's macro is the 2nd best ever after Infi's. Lyn could be a top player in SC2. Lyn is also creative, but because of the reactive nature of Orc, he expresses his creativity only in pre-planned builds.
    All the S-tier pros in the history of the game, Moon, Lyn, Happy and Infi are all really good at everything and don't have any weak spots. But what makes Lyn so special is that not only is he the best timing&execution player of all times, but he combined that with a macro ability surpassed only by Infi, and a creativity surpassed only by Moon. Lyn is just a very, very special player.

    • @cadukizzi
      @cadukizzi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You say you watch the game since 2005 and don't mention Grubby and Life in S-tier players of history? Strange. Also, what Lyn did in this game, Happy has been doing for a long time. No one dominated this game for so long like Happy did in last 5 years and Lyn is far from having same overall statistics as Happy in the game. Lyn is a WC3 God, but he is still Top2, below Happy.

    • @user-yp1tp7hf3f
      @user-yp1tp7hf3f 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cadukizzi It's not strage at all. Grubby is a 2 time WCg winner and the most iconic Western WC3 player ever, but he never reached the skill level of Lyn, Happy, Infi and Moon.
      Also, I think it's funny that you bring up Grubby, the most generic name imaginable, to try to prove that I haven't been watching WC3 since 2005. You should have brought up names like Zacard, or MadFrog, Sky, ReMind, Creolophus, Insomnia, Susiria, Lucifer, Thorzain, Lucifron, etc, as examples of names I didn't mention to "prove" that I haven't been watching Wc3 since 2005.
      As for Happy, your narrative is completely wrong. Happy has been dominant only since late 2020/2121. He won WGL in Summer 2019, but then he lost his title to Lyn at WGL Winter, and then in early 2020, he had the series Vs Infi where Infi spanked him and beat him 3-0 at the Huya Super League. Even in 2020, he was still being challenged. He only became the consensus @1 player at Raraland in 2021.

    • @cadukizzi
      @cadukizzi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@user-yp1tp7hf3f Sorry, by Life I meant Sky. Most of these players you mentioned were A-tier at best, with the exception of Grubby and Sky, but that is a matter of opinion. Madfrog's game style is influential to this day, but he won nothing. Grubby also won an ESWC and was the orc king long before Lyn and until his retirement. Happy lost a series to Infi, so what? He made to grand finals in both 2019 WGL and by that time his statistics were reaching the roof already. Now even if what you say was true and Happy did start his dominance in 2021, tell me another player who dominated this game for 4 years? Maybe Moon, but definetly not Lyn.

    • @GhostieV2
      @GhostieV2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can't belive neither of y'all mentioned Th000...
      Tbh both of you guys raise good points, but top player is pretty subjective. I think it's a toss up between Moon, Lyn and Happy for GOAT, though I lean towards Moon.
      Happy = Nadal. Unbreakable, out-manuevres opponents and arguably the most mechanical strength.
      Lyn = Djokovic. Near perfect execution, strong resolve, great mix of talent and decision-making.
      Moon = Federer. Has the most weaknesses, but playing at his peak is art. In his prime, unrivalled creativity and elegance.

    • @Back2Warcraft
      @Back2Warcraft  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      One of the best comment ever on our TH-cam

  • @l.5734
    @l.5734 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jannes, I really love your excitment! ❤ It is already great, but your mod makes it even much better!
    Thanks to you!

  • @user-cc6fl1ct8u
    @user-cc6fl1ct8u 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ничего себе вообще не почуствовал ни Хэппи ни Фортитьюда! Хорошая игра от Лина😱💪👍

  • @PelouseMan666
    @PelouseMan666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That echo isles was one of the best games of the year !

  • @ramtintashakkor7311
    @ramtintashakkor7311 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    lyn is a god.

  • @comedyclubpodcast
    @comedyclubpodcast 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hahahah, I was afraid that Neo forgot to stream today and broke the 85 consecutive days. Congrats on 86 Neo ;)

  • @tehmastawow
    @tehmastawow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The rank 1 looks good on lyn

  • @uuuu6590
    @uuuu6590 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great games and great casting!
    Lyn played so well.
    I hope we see more NE in the future :(

  • @biohazard2848
    @biohazard2848 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why does Happy vs Forti LB final feel more like the Grand final with dual cast than this? LOL

  • @LucasMRBraga
    @LucasMRBraga 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Incredible series. Love watching Lyn play. It's unfortunate that Forti seems to have a real issue closing out tournaments. Those first 2 games were laden with mental mistakes.

  • @mario1ua
    @mario1ua 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lyn plays the true orc style with raids on the village, pillage and stuff. It's like watching a movie

  • @niuage
    @niuage 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Every time he says "oh my god" i think that something cool happened in game but it's a donation ^^.

  • @Ta3iapxHs
    @Ta3iapxHs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fcking insane games! That invis invln dodge.. come on.. this was Neo from the Matrix. Great cast as always by B2W!

  • @santiagogarcia9255
    @santiagogarcia9255 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just with that game in Echo Isles, these series deserve a very shiny golden star

  • @dearberlin
    @dearberlin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lyn ate the stormbolt rhythm, what a great player!

  • @luisalbertobaldeonprado
    @luisalbertobaldeonprado 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rayos que buenas partidas jugó Lyn, sin duda el mejor Orco de WC3. Bien merecido el título de campeón del torneo.

  • @KS-ue8ff
    @KS-ue8ff 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a game!!

  • @ronniegirardot9613
    @ronniegirardot9613 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man it is so exciting when the game is 2:0 and there is an hour left in the video

  • @LightY59
    @LightY59 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Insane !!!

  • @gabrielemichelli8341
    @gabrielemichelli8341 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why forti doesn't go MK First in every game?

  • @Dumballa
    @Dumballa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Congratulations to the winner!! Couldn't of happened to a nicer guy 😀

  • @ottomann4846
    @ottomann4846 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If banking 1.7k gold why not go t3 as orc for tiny, lightning orb and third hero?

  • @gianniskim120
    @gianniskim120 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    King of orc is back ! ;)

  • @bhuwansharma7171
    @bhuwansharma7171 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For the Hooooorrrddddddddd 🎉🎉🎉

  • @amirmatinfar374
    @amirmatinfar374 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    nice i just enjoy lyn game play

  • @StoicismMovement
    @StoicismMovement 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lyn song WHEN?!

  • @user-zi2fw2yz7h
    @user-zi2fw2yz7h หลายเดือนก่อน

    Leasson learned... Wolves lvl 3 ARE a thing.

  • @pablocortinas360
    @pablocortinas360 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome play by Lyn. By the way watching these matchups, make me think what did blizzard wanted to achieve with hh nerf, they are really jot a problem. The only complain I can think from a human perspective is orc's ability to do a lot of damage with hit and run tactics in this matchup. And if we thini that is a problem, then a nerf to cl, shockwave or raiders would make kore sense.

  • @florianlaumer5979
    @florianlaumer5979 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gonna tell my grandkids about the invul storm bolt dodge (and the 300 norwegian whale gifties ❤)

  • @destroyer5859
    @destroyer5859 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love W3❤

  • @Eris-Discordi
    @Eris-Discordi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Better, than Forty vs Happy, but no gold star.
    I'm not understand criteria.

    • @SmoothJK
      @SmoothJK 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Possibly bc it was a bit one-sided? But I agree, this was an AMAZING series.

  • @samblack5313
    @samblack5313 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My goodness does this game look dated now. Good to hear your commentary again, mate. been a couple years since I checked out your channel.

  • @safd930
    @safd930 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    for the horde!

  • @nancircle5566
    @nancircle5566 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Both Lyn and Fortitude are very strong

  • @playboi7624
    @playboi7624 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Like a few clips ago, I said that only orcs can fight fair with humans. Humans at the end of generation 3 are the strongest in all armies. If you want to win, you can only fight quickly against generation 3. Orcs are a good choice. UD's army is only strong in the early and mid game and lacks mobility, so happy's continuous failure is not a decline in performance. is choosing an army :)

  • @_eburgess
    @_eburgess 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    honeslty those creeps kinda screwed foritude up on that last game.

  • @tomohnehut5345
    @tomohnehut5345 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice nice nice

  • @OzgurAvukat
    @OzgurAvukat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why doesnt he pick first mountain king for every game ? I dont get that

    • @dearberlin
      @dearberlin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not easy to level up on every map.

  • @alexanderschwenk8228
    @alexanderschwenk8228 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GG Lyn = Goat

  • @SmoothJK
    @SmoothJK 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lyn always plays well, but this was a whole 'nother level. This might be the first grand final with the highest level of play that does NOT involve Happy.

  • @georgeli2710
    @georgeli2710 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stuck in the toolbox! 😁😁

  • @LuhLuhLawrence
    @LuhLuhLawrence 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok the first two games tho... That's enough entertaining WC for a good while....

  • @Fabiancajas
    @Fabiancajas 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Walking mana fountain on a horse !!! lol

  • @elikorn8777
    @elikorn8777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why doesnt this have a gold star

    • @joking3862
      @joking3862 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because it is not happy, so b2w wont give it a gold star

  • @jonathandunbar7721
    @jonathandunbar7721 หลายเดือนก่อน

    goooooooooo

  • @James-gu6yj
    @James-gu6yj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wish I can see him playing offline

  • @JanosHungary
    @JanosHungary 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lyn stomped him to the ground, no doubt.

  • @SulthanMuhammad
    @SulthanMuhammad 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is happy skipping the tourney or he just got rekt?

  • @chopstikz127
    @chopstikz127 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lynn is way too good

  • @jenphilip9167
    @jenphilip9167 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Next patch, ORCS to be nerfed

  • @bybychoi0
    @bybychoi0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2 happy slayer

  • @davicpetrovski155
    @davicpetrovski155 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’d like to see more 3rd strike characters coming back but not in the art style of sf6. Street fighter never looked more ugly like this since sf EX

  • @ab-qj3wo
    @ab-qj3wo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fortitude winning: 😃🤣😁😆🤪
    Lyn winning: 😶

  • @fabiocastagna5094
    @fabiocastagna5094 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for the spoilers everyone

    • @cadukizzi
      @cadukizzi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You welcome. Next time try watching the game before reading comments.

  • @P.sherman45
    @P.sherman45 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if you are a god at tennis, chess, or any sport, you will always be a god as long as you keep it up.
    in most Esports balancing exists, if u are a god at any game, developers interpret it as "not balanced" and will nerf the god.

    • @thehellsong
      @thehellsong 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Those are just mirrors games, balance in Warcraft is much more complicated since it has 4 races (6 different match ups to balance in one game)

    • @cadukizzi
      @cadukizzi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@thehellsong Blizzard never made any effort tho.

    • @P.sherman45
      @P.sherman45 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thehellsong i agree, thats what i love about it, not even the workers are simmilar, greatest RTS (or maybe game) ever.
      however, i believe undead race is being done dirty just because happy is ultra good.

  • @horstkohler7926
    @horstkohler7926 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    :)

  • @dans4181
    @dans4181 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    welp.... guess I don't have to watch this. Pulled up on my phone and before i can hit play i see the spoiler.... awesome

  • @Looking-for-today
    @Looking-for-today 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lyn made forti easy

  • @emptyspaces4067
    @emptyspaces4067 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nerf damn mk already.

    • @timfink7980
      @timfink7980 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you even see the games?
      Mk was countered by skill , tc with the insane dodges

    • @cadukizzi
      @cadukizzi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agree. MK too strong.

  • @HornetLarry
    @HornetLarry 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A shitty final, but amazing play from Lyn. Guess that evens things out a bit.

    • @timfink7980
      @timfink7980 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      How is it shitty, it’s the best 2 players currently playing an awesome final

    • @cadukizzi
      @cadukizzi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The best is Happy.

    • @alexch3618
      @alexch3618 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      too many happy fanboys hoping imba ghoul buffs destroy the game.

    • @timfink7980
      @timfink7980 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@cadukizzi nah he didn’t even make the finals because the lost 2 series in a row. Even OP race couldn’t save his mistakes this time

    • @cadukizzi
      @cadukizzi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alexch3618 too many Happy haters celebrating the first finals in 5 years without the GOAT.

  • @RightLowKick-LeftHook
    @RightLowKick-LeftHook 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Lyn just destroyed Happy, made Sok look like a complete noob, and schooled Forti in the span of a couple of days.
    All that while playing probably the weakest race in the game rn

    • @cadukizzi
      @cadukizzi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Weakest is NE, then Undead. Orc is in good shape at Top50.

    • @XEmiyaArcherX
      @XEmiyaArcherX 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      lmao it's HU>ORC>UD>>>>NE

    • @xtremelemon8612
      @xtremelemon8612 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@XEmiyaArcherXyeah, thats what it seems right now. Happy and Moon are keeping ud and ne alive by themselves

    • @Back2Warcraft
      @Back2Warcraft  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      you started off so well, then had to include balance...

    • @RightLowKick-LeftHook
      @RightLowKick-LeftHook 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Back2Warcraft Always (:

  • @Wespid
    @Wespid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    forti was humiliated and where's his trashtalk now?