I had a similar experience in a Japanese language school. I joined level 2 though I probably should've started from the beginning because I did not know everything in level 1, but I got enough points on the placement test to go to level 2. So I was behind from the beginning and it got worse and worse and I felt like I didn't learn anything and just tried to get through the class. I couldn't have a conversation in Japanese at all.I actually managed to pass level 2 and 3 without failing, but then I had a depression and stuff which made me fail level 4. Anyway, I got back to Sweden and after 5 months I started a Japanese class in uni and now when I learn everything a second time it's so amazing. I remember things and I understand a lot more and speak better, even though I'm not even on the level that I learned in class in Japan yet.
+lilldea Thanks for sharing your story. Really, reading it makes me feel a little bit better about my failings. I'm kind of the opposite, I could speak but they said "You never use the perfect word. You always use a similar or a little bit strange word. We can understand you but it's not correct." I could talk ok but my tests were horrible. I was really depressed and lost my confidence a lot because I kept failing. That's kind of why I didn't post videos for a few months. But I'm ok with it now and I'll make a video soon explaining how and why I failed. So hopefully other people won't fall into the same trap.
It's 2019 and this is EXACTLY what Sogang Korean language program was, and still is like. You did a great job putting this into words. Nothing has changed. I'm 5 months in at Sogang now and not sure how much longer that will last. Thanks .
I've been going through many of your videos and they're so helpful! This video just confirmed what a lot of people studying there told me, it's soooo intense. I'm planning on coming next year & I'm still hesitating between Sogang & KU's language program. Anyways thank you for sharing your experience!!
This was so helpful and informative, and also makes me so nervous and confused! The situation: Im hoping to afford a year of studying at a language institute in Seoul, starting from the spring intake next year (Feb/March 2019). I really want to get to level 4 by the end of 2019. Im busy trying to study Korean as much as I can by myself right now, and I'm currently toying between two options: a) study my ass off at home and hopefully just scrape into testing into level 2 when I arrive in Spring, therefore giving myself 4 semesters to complete 3 levels (2,3,4) which gives me room to repeat one of the levels, once. Possible downfalls: having "done level 1 myself", I may actually be low on the fundamentals, as well as not being at all accustomed to 'the asian way of studying' and therefor be setting myself up for a meltdown by walking straight into level 2. b) studying at home, but just going into level 1 in Spring, easing myself into the environment, and probably being rather comfortable and full of false confidence for the first semester, as my self studying should give me a big leg up for level 1. Possible downfalls: zero wiggle room to repeat any level if I want to complete up till level 4 within 1 year. PS, I am SO not academically motivated. I finished high school in 2010 and haven't had any further schooling. Just studying by myself the last 3 months has been like pulling teeth for me. the only thing that gets me through it is my insane infatuation with all things Korean. So, what do you think? Is level 1 super easy and worth just studying on your own? Or you recon its the only enjoyable level, everything else is hell, and Id be foolish to skip the level that would ease me into said hell?
I'm actually in a very similar situation to you. I'm aiming for the fall semester 2019 though. What did you end up doing? Did you study to get into level 2? Did it work?
Thanks for all the very informative videos. I do have something I want to tell you though. I believe there is nothing wrong with practise such as repeating sentences word for word, or dictating/copying text word for word. All of that helps you get the vocab and structure in our head, so that when we want to become creative and express ourselves, all the tools are there!
Thank you for this video, I've just started Sogang this fall after learning korean alone and was put in level 3... It is so overwhelming! I've learnt korean by reading and writing so my listening and speaking skills are not good. And I already know the grammar point of level 3 but the teachers are speaking so fast! My 쓰기 teacher doesn't articulate at all. By the 4th hour I'm just out of it, I know how to do the exercise but 99% of the time I don't even understand the instructions lol
I love these long videos! I think it would be hard to give a good description in a much shorter video! Thanks for the great information! Do you plan to resume learning Korean in Sogang and if not, what other Korean university would you go to instead to progress further? From one Irish person to another, I totally get where you're coming from when it comes to learning as an English speaker! I study Spanish and Korean and I genuinely think Spanish is SO simple compared to Korean! 😂
+Nora Lee If I was going back to do another immersion program, I'd probably try Yonsei or Ehwa to be honest, just because I'm a 'new experience junkie'. I saw what Sogang was about and would like to see what other places are like.
이런 긴 동영상이 되게 도움이 됐다고 생각하는데, 다른 영상도 이만큼 좋아요! 뭘 하든 상관 없이 진짜 재밌는 비디오를 만들 것 같으니까 계속 업로드하길 바래요. 다음달부터 부산에 있는 부경대학교를 입학하려고 해서 충분이 준비하려고 노력하고 있는데~ 좀 떨려요 ㅎ ㅎ 혹시 이제 아이어랜드에 계시고요?
+Life In A Suitcase 와우~ 한국어를 진짜 잘해요. 떨려지마세요! 잘 할수있을 것 같아요. 사실은 이 메시지를 읽었을대 google translate 많이 이용했어요. ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 아이고~ 제 한국어를 다 잊어버렸어요. 네. 요즘 아인랜드에 살아요. 여기는 심심한편이에요. 저도 부산에 가고싶어요. 내가 거기에 가면 함게 동영상을 만들자 ^^
Hey~ I'm interested in studying at Sogang at some point in the futrure but when you studied there where abouts did you live? Did they offer accommodation or did you have to find it yourself? Thanks ^^
+TotalyCaptivatd Hey~ In short, I went and found my own place myself. I actually made a few videos about it if you want to know more of the details. th-cam.com/video/xlUzae91h2I/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/ICmcuqD111M/w-d-xo.html
I have a question! I'm from the Philippines and I'm trying to enroll at sogang after 2 years when I graduate college. Is it necessary to have friends in class? I'm not very sociable and I only start to have friends if they talk to me first. Does having friends make you learn a lot more since you both have the same goal of learning Korean or does having friends kind of distract you from learning Korean? This question might sound stupid huhu but hopefully you'll answer!!
I think it depends on the kind of friends you'll make. There were some classmates who would only speak English during the breaks so that wasn't very helpful, but other classmates who would help you study together. Personally I think having friends and study buddies helps sooo much. You can ask for help and motivate each other when one is feeling tired. But I'm an extrovert and very social person.
I think level 6 would be the ideal level, because that means you'd know everything. Could you study in a Korean university doing regular courses with level 3? No. Think about it this way, could a chinese person with 9 months English training follow along in a University level engineering lecture? I have a friend who got a scholarship from Kyunghee University, to study an MBA there, after she studied Korean there up to level 5. Every morning she had to go through her Korean business book and translate all the words she didn't know already, study that vocabulary for a couple hours and then start her actual MBA studies. Writing a thesis in a language that's not your native language seems like one of the most frustrating things a person can do. I lived in Korea for 2 years with 0 Korean so, I hope that helps answer your question.
I had a similar experience in a Japanese language school. I joined level 2 though I probably should've started from the beginning because I did not know everything in level 1, but I got enough points on the placement test to go to level 2. So I was behind from the beginning and it got worse and worse and I felt like I didn't learn anything and just tried to get through the class. I couldn't have a conversation in Japanese at all.I actually managed to pass level 2 and 3 without failing, but then I had a depression and stuff which made me fail level 4. Anyway, I got back to Sweden and after 5 months I started a Japanese class in uni and now when I learn everything a second time it's so amazing. I remember things and I understand a lot more and speak better, even though I'm not even on the level that I learned in class in Japan yet.
+lilldea Thanks for sharing your story. Really, reading it makes me feel a little bit better about my failings.
I'm kind of the opposite, I could speak but they said "You never use the perfect word. You always use a similar or a little bit strange word. We can understand you but it's not correct." I could talk ok but my tests were horrible. I was really depressed and lost my confidence a lot because I kept failing. That's kind of why I didn't post videos for a few months. But I'm ok with it now and I'll make a video soon explaining how and why I failed. So hopefully other people won't fall into the same trap.
It's 2019 and this is EXACTLY what Sogang Korean language program was, and still is like. You did a great job putting this into words. Nothing has changed. I'm 5 months in at Sogang now and not sure how much longer that will last. Thanks .
So how did it go? Was taking the courses worth it?
@@suicidalemo26 now level-2 online via zoom video. Can you imagine? Everyone is super nice. Class is a blurr ...
@@davidk3111 haha well seems a bit easier then in some aspects to have it online
Thank you for sharing your experience. :)
It's good to know about the cultural teaching differences.
I've been going through many of your videos and they're so helpful! This video just confirmed what a lot of people studying there told me, it's soooo intense. I'm planning on coming next year & I'm still hesitating between Sogang & KU's language program.
Anyways thank you for sharing your experience!!
This was so helpful and informative, and also makes me so nervous and confused!
The situation: Im hoping to afford a year of studying at a language institute in Seoul, starting from the spring intake next year (Feb/March 2019). I really want to get to level 4 by the end of 2019. Im busy trying to study Korean as much as I can by myself right now, and I'm currently toying between two options:
a) study my ass off at home and hopefully just scrape into testing into level 2 when I arrive in Spring, therefore giving myself 4 semesters to complete 3 levels (2,3,4) which gives me room to repeat one of the levels, once. Possible downfalls: having "done level 1 myself", I may actually be low on the fundamentals, as well as not being at all accustomed to 'the asian way of studying' and therefor be setting myself up for a meltdown by walking straight into level 2.
b) studying at home, but just going into level 1 in Spring, easing myself into the environment, and probably being rather comfortable and full of false confidence for the first semester, as my self studying should give me a big leg up for level 1. Possible downfalls: zero wiggle room to repeat any level if I want to complete up till level 4 within 1 year.
PS, I am SO not academically motivated. I finished high school in 2010 and haven't had any further schooling. Just studying by myself the last 3 months has been like pulling teeth for me. the only thing that gets me through it is my insane infatuation with all things Korean.
So, what do you think? Is level 1 super easy and worth just studying on your own? Or you recon its the only enjoyable level, everything else is hell, and Id be foolish to skip the level that would ease me into said hell?
I'm actually in a very similar situation to you. I'm aiming for the fall semester 2019 though. What did you end up doing? Did you study to get into level 2? Did it work?
Thanks for all the very informative videos. I do have something I want to tell you though. I believe there is nothing wrong with practise such as repeating sentences word for word, or dictating/copying text word for word. All of that helps you get the vocab and structure in our head, so that when we want to become creative and express ourselves, all the tools are there!
Very helpful!
Thank you for this video, I've just started Sogang this fall after learning korean alone and was put in level 3... It is so overwhelming! I've learnt korean by reading and writing so my listening and speaking skills are not good.
And I already know the grammar point of level 3 but the teachers are speaking so fast! My 쓰기 teacher doesn't articulate at all. By the 4th hour I'm just out of it, I know how to do the exercise but 99% of the time I don't even understand the instructions lol
That was soooo interesting, and good to know! I guess they're all pretty much the same, so I can mentally prepared to all of this.
Great video :) The length of the video was good but not every video needs to be lengthy, it's good to mix it up! A lot of good points, thank you!
Lol 😆😂 “WHAT?! I’m paying you Bitch!”
I love these long videos! I think it would be hard to give a good description in a much shorter video! Thanks for the great information! Do you plan to resume learning Korean in Sogang and if not, what other Korean university would you go to instead to progress further? From one Irish person to another, I totally get where you're coming from when it comes to learning as an English speaker! I study Spanish and Korean and I genuinely think Spanish is SO simple compared to Korean! 😂
+Nora Lee If I was going back to do another immersion program, I'd probably try Yonsei or Ehwa to be honest, just because I'm a 'new experience junkie'. I saw what Sogang was about and would like to see what other places are like.
이런 긴 동영상이 되게 도움이 됐다고 생각하는데, 다른 영상도 이만큼 좋아요!
뭘 하든 상관 없이 진짜 재밌는 비디오를 만들 것 같으니까 계속 업로드하길 바래요.
다음달부터 부산에 있는 부경대학교를 입학하려고 해서 충분이 준비하려고 노력하고 있는데~ 좀 떨려요 ㅎ ㅎ
혹시 이제 아이어랜드에 계시고요?
+Life In A Suitcase 와우~ 한국어를 진짜 잘해요. 떨려지마세요! 잘 할수있을 것 같아요. 사실은 이 메시지를 읽었을대 google translate 많이 이용했어요. ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 아이고~ 제 한국어를 다 잊어버렸어요.
네. 요즘 아인랜드에 살아요. 여기는 심심한편이에요. 저도 부산에 가고싶어요. 내가 거기에 가면 함게 동영상을 만들자 ^^
+ChineseIrish 아하 재밌을 테니까 부산에 오면 꼭 연락하세요!
그동안, 영상을 더 많이 만들었으면 좋겠어요!
I laughed at the 슈퍼마켓 example. Haha, that sounds more like the English word than supermarché does :p. Still, I get your point.
Hey, I love your videos. Why don’t you make youtube videos now?
ok, you actually made me laugh a few times :D
Hey~ I'm interested in studying at Sogang at some point in the futrure but when you studied there where abouts did you live? Did they offer accommodation or did you have to find it yourself? Thanks ^^
+TotalyCaptivatd Hey~ In short, I went and found my own place myself. I actually made a few videos about it if you want to know more of the details.
th-cam.com/video/xlUzae91h2I/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/ICmcuqD111M/w-d-xo.html
Ah! Thank you! (I probably should have looked for them first aha...sorry!)
hello! in sogang, do you pay per semester? does one semester also mean one level?
I have a question! I'm from the Philippines and I'm trying to enroll at sogang after 2 years when I graduate college. Is it necessary to have friends in class? I'm not very sociable and I only start to have friends if they talk to me first. Does having friends make you learn a lot more since you both have the same goal of learning Korean or does having friends kind of distract you from learning Korean? This question might sound stupid huhu but hopefully you'll answer!!
I think it depends on the kind of friends you'll make. There were some classmates who would only speak English during the breaks so that wasn't very helpful, but other classmates who would help you study together.
Personally I think having friends and study buddies helps sooo much. You can ask for help and motivate each other when one is feeling tired. But I'm an extrovert and very social person.
Would Level 3 be an ideal level to stop? Could you live and study in Korean with that level of Korean?
I think level 6 would be the ideal level, because that means you'd know everything.
Could you study in a Korean university doing regular courses with level 3? No.
Think about it this way, could a chinese person with 9 months English training follow along in a University level engineering lecture?
I have a friend who got a scholarship from Kyunghee University, to study an MBA there, after she studied Korean there up to level 5. Every morning she had to go through her Korean business book and translate all the words she didn't know already, study that vocabulary for a couple hours and then start her actual MBA studies. Writing a thesis in a language that's not your native language seems like one of the most frustrating things a person can do.
I lived in Korea for 2 years with 0 Korean so, I hope that helps answer your question.
i prefer long videos with a lot of personal information and experiences
If you were to go through all 6 levels without repeating, how long would it take?
18 months but that would be like a marathon sprint.
so do you need good grades to get in ?
No
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