Quinn Gen 2 Torque Adapter Testing
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- Are the new Gen 2's really +-2% accuracy?
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Why hasn’t this Chanel blown up yet it’s awesome
Wish I knew lol, I think my content is good.
Thanks!
People don’t like learning man
@@Tools-Tested Thank you for your very useful content!
@@namsomirak8972 No problem! Glad its helpful!
Cuz only real men are watching reviews of tools
This channel is quickly becoming one of my favorites. HF is running a 20% off all torque products until 1/31 and I'll be picking up the 1/2"
Yeah I seen that coupon and was like just my luck lol. Defiantly some nice upgrades over the previous Gen.
This channel is freaking great. You really help fill the gaps of channels like project farm. I'd love to see you corroborate some of their testing.
Thank you! Sadly I haven't see PF do any corroboration, would be nice though.
Its intriguing how accurate these little torque adapters are. I have a Wisretec 3/8 drive adapter, specified as 2% tolerance but pretty much matches the Dremotest.
All the best to you for 2023!
Yeah I honestly can’t believe these are this accurate and cheap here.
Thanks!, best to you in 2023! as well!
Practicing for a few minutes with a click wrench on the digital adaptor I learned that technique is important. My 30 year old 40 - 200 in-lb SnapOn wrench is plus or minus one inch pound full range if I use the proper technique. My 5 - 80 ft-lb Pittsburgh is especially sensitive to technique below about 25 ft-lb. My fifty year old 20 - 150 ft-lb Craftsman is the least sensitive technique of all my torque wrenches. I have a dual beam 0 - 200 in-lb beam torque wrench that's 40 years old that's dead nuts as close as I can read the needle on the beam.
My take away: If you have one of these gadgets, use it to practice with the wrench for a few clicks if being close really matters.
Yep 100% definitely a technique to it. I find it’s trickier to use a digital torque wrench vs a click style, even though the digital can* be more accurate.
@@Tools-Tested Well what is this technique then? If it is fairly accurate, will it be working no matter what technique someone uses while torquing?
Why is this channel not at 250K? Great stuff. That thing is damn accurate
Wish I knew lol, Thanks! Yeah they are a good value IMO when u look at accuracy.
Harbor Freight for the win again. Thank you for the testing. Happy New Year! 🎆
No problem! Happens New Year!
Great testing.
Not bad at all, the backlight is a nice improvement.
Yeah definitely some nice improvements.
For anybody wondering how to switch from NM to Ft lbs and other measurement values press the "P/T" and the "M" button at the same time. The owners manual sucks but i found this out through searching online..
Does this do inch pounds too?
@@drummerjimmy51 I just ran a test for you because I own the 3/8" and the 1/2" versions. They both do offer many measuring formats including in in-lbs, nm , ft-lbs and a few more (six total measuring formats).
the 3/8" starts registering at 7 in-lbs
the 1/2" does not register until 30 in-lbs
The numbers on the package that says 5.9 and 25 ft-lbs are BS they measure accurately lower than that, harbor freight wants you to buy multiple so they BS the numbers a bit... if I could do it over again i would only buy the 1/2" because i never need to use them for under 30 in lbs
Wow! Thank you for doing this testing!!!
No problem!
I love mine. I’m glad I bought the adapter and not an actual digital torque wrench. I saved a bunch of $$ And I can use the cheater for whenever I need it
Nice, defiantly a cheaper alternative with the benefit of adding whatever wrench on the end.
Good enough for wheels, thanks for the review!
No problem! Glad it was helpful!
Handy! I just need it for torquing and retorquing lug nuts on my tractor trailer. I’ve got a range of 25’lbs to work with, 475-500. I typically run them to +-500. I suppose at 495 I’d be well within spec. Thanks a lot. I can’t justify a $300-500 wrench
No problem glad to hear it helped! Yeah 3/4 torque wrench’s are not cheap.
The 3/8, even at 3.3% off, is more accurate than a lot of torque wrenches.
Yep its good accuracy which is better than most click style wrenches.
Thanks and have a happy New Year’s Day! 🥳🥳
No problem! Happy New Year!
Great video. Thanks very much!
Glad you liked it! No problem.
Great video. Very useful info. Thanks for sharing
Thanks! Glad it was helpful! No problem!
Which is better for torqueing sparkplugs: QUINN 3/8 in. Drive 5.9-59 ft. lb. Digital Torque Adapter vs PITTSBURGH PRO 3/8 in. Drive 5-80 ft. lb. Click Torque Wrench?
If u have the room, preferably the digital adapter.
@@Tools-Tested Thanks for responding.
Got it buy the Quinn Gen version 2 1/2.... Liked and Subbed!
Thank you for this review.
No problem!
I need to torque something to 8ft lb. I’ve read that torque wrenches are less accurate outside of the 20% - 80% range. Not sure if this applies to digital adapters as well. Have you done any tests between 5.9 and 10 ft-lbs ? I’m wondering if I should get the digital adapter or a 1/4 inch drive 20-200 in.-lb torque wrench.
You are correct normally below 20% the accuracy drops off.
I haven’t tested the 3/8 down that low. I would expect the accuracy around 6%.
If you need something more accurate probably go with the 1/4.
I did test a 1/4 digital adapter which is very similar to the Quinn. th-cam.com/video/bGo2tlCoVsI/w-d-xo.html
Great testing, thank you! However it's worth noting that even your test rig will also have some associated margin of error which will typically be greatest near the lowest end of it's range so the 3/8" might be less off the mark than it appears.
Thanks! Yeah CDI claims this tester is sub .5% full range but I’m sure the accuracy varies some in the range.
Thank u so much for saying ft lbs and not lbs ft. Thank u!
Wow, great content. I'm unclear about something called "angle" measurements. What is it, and why do we need it? Thanks.
Thanks! So angle is normal only used when torquing head bolts on an engine. It depends on the manufacture but normally you torque the bolts 1 or 2 times and then do 90 degrees which is a more accurate way of providing proper tension.
Does it make a sound when the desired torque is achieved? I can't hear anything but that damn music!
Can the new version of the 1/2" be used for measurements under 25 ft-lbs? I know it says 25-250 ft-lbs but I was curious if it still can be used for the lower torque settings (I know it may not be quite as accurate since it is out of the range, but I'm interested as to how far out from the 2% accuracy)? Cause I like that is has a range much higher than the 3/8" one.
thanks for the review i have the 3/8 and 1/2 delcos and none works( and they never did)
No problem, yeah I tested one of the AcDelco’s I didn’t like the fact they use coin battery’s.
Thanks for the review!
Curious for a hobbyist say for wheel nuts, would you recommend a digital torque wrench vs this torque adapter?
The price difference seems steep for the digital torque wrench.
Thanks in advance and happy new year!
Personally I would go with a split beam or click for lugs.
Digital torque wrenches can be tricky because u won’t be able to see the display, only the higher priced ones have leds on the sides. A digital torque adapter would be better. But I still prefer a mechanical torque wrench for that application.
Happy new year!
Thanks for the recommendations! It's really helpful especially for a newbie like me who is just about to start with lug nuts as a home DIYer.
Was debating between the ICON click wrench and the digital one and went for the digital one w/ the 25% coupon but then saw the torque adapter review and really made me double think if that is a cheaper route in general.
Now debating if I should return the digital and wait for next 25% coupon to get the click wrench instead.. ha.
But thanks none the less! Appreciate all the honest reviews that are insightful!
Happy New Year!!
IM HAVING A PROBLEM WITH THE 1/2 EVERYTIME I CONECT THE BRAKE BAR IT SHUT OFF ITS THATS NORMAL ?? WITH MY 3/4 DOSENT HAPPEN
If new battery's don't fix it, it's probably defective.
I have exchange it 3 times and still does the same thi g
And i only have the shut off problem whit the 1/2 inch not with the 3/4
Thank you
No problem!
Have you tested if you use a extension on the torque adapter to get into tight spaces, would that change the reading?
Yes, extensions have almost zero impact on torque. Swivels on the other hand will defiantly impact the desired torque.
@@Tools-Tested cool, thank you’
@stevensam8834 The Torque Test Channel recently did a video on myths about torque wrenches. One of the key tests he did was do adapter or extensions make a difference in actual torque application vs reading. It was fascinating, there is a bit of math, but nothing too hard. Basically as long as you are in line with where you're applying the torque it won't matter. However as soon as you change angles, or add or subtract leverage, it will change the torque applied vs what is set on the tool. It's very consistent however with what happens when. So go watch the video to learn about how the rules apply...
I have watched and rewatched this excellent test video, but it's not clear how the target torque is indicated. Does solid red mean stop? Does flashing red mean approaching? What does the whining sound indicate? I am asking because it seems like you are pushing past the light indicator changes to make the numbers match, but I won't be able to see the numbers in all applications or positions, so it is important to understand how to interpret torque based on lights alone. Is that possible? Or would a click wrench be better in 'blind' applications? I still have an old beam torque wrench and it is kind of stressful watching that needle approach exact torque at awkward angles and was looking for something better.
Thanks!
Best approach is a click style in my opinion, you can just apply a constant force till the click.
Digital wrenches are tricky because you need to slow down and can easily over torque, defiantly when you cant see the display.
The leds on this flash faster and then go solid just past the torque, over by 1In Lb I found. At the same time the buzzer is also sold.
The accuracy is incredible for $50!
Yeah they really are a good value.
how are you able to smoothly sneak up and hold those high torques? Do you have like a 4ft bar extension on the breaker bar?
Yeah its tricky like with any other digital wrench, for testing I used a CNC table to dial it in. This allowed me to keep a consistent pressure on the TW.
I may have missed it in your video, but do these measure torque for loosening hardware with a peak/hold feature? in short, I'm trying to quickly measure the torque required to remove a stuck bolt.
Yeah the peak/hold also works in the loosing direction.
How do you manage 1000 test cycles for each wrench? Your arm must get pretty tired. 😂
Yeah its annoying more than anything lol, I end up putting my earbuds.
I have the gen one 1/2 inch but would it affect any readings if I use a 3/8 adapter and socket if I need to use it for space or whatever? I was thinking about buying a 3/8 torque wrench or adapter but I already have the 1/2 adapter and a 1/2 torque wrench so I don’t want to buy something that will sit and never be used. I also would like to see if I can calibrate my gen one just to make sure it’s within spec.
Yes using an adapter is ok, it has almost zero impact on the torque being applied.
I don't know how to get it into calibration mode sadly, wish I did.
@@Tools-TestedPress down Power and Memory to calibrate
What are the differences between peak and trace?
So when in peak it will display the highest reading when applying torque, trace/track it gives you the live readout. So if you go up to 50 and let some force of the adapter peak will show 50 while trace would show under 50 so something more like 40
Hope this make sense it can be a little confusing.
how do u set these things ,, do u just press the positive and negative to the desire number and leave it or do u press other button to make it memorized the number u want it to beep on
You can press the M for the preset number and then adjust the torque number up or down and it will save that as the pre set.
@@Tools-Tested
got it thks....
If you had your tools took, and had to collect some more, would you prefer a digital adapter or an actual torque wrench?
Really depends, if your using it every few weekends probably the adapter would be a good choice. Every day a split beam is preferred in my book, engine work is when the digital torque wrench with angle comes into play.
Can you use a 3/8" adapter with the new 1/2" model?
Yes you can
Can you torque left hand threaded bolts with these?
That question is why I watched the video as well . Tools Tested responded to someone else that it works both ways.
How long of a breaker bar do you meed for the 3/4 inch? Trying to torque something to 350 ft/lbs.
Longer the better for leverage and it makes it easier to control. Torque is measured by the adapter so the length won’t affect it.
Yeah, this would never work in some of the tight areas under the hood.
Where I work we use 20 more than the minimum and 20 less than the max
Mine lasted less then a year. Took the battery out and stored it in the case, Screen went dead, Tried two different new batteries. Get what you pay for I quess....
Does it do angles like 120 degrees?
No these only do torque.
This thing sucks. I just replaced a panel and the freaking thing had me at less than 12lbs with the conductor bent way outta shape
Does the length of the wrench used have an effect on the amount of torque delivered?
No wrenches extensions adapters etc before the adapter won't affect the torque, its after the adapter things like extensions will reduce the amount of torque.
@@Tools-Tested Great test by the way!
I tested this device with a regular ratchet wrench, and it was way off. I used a 13" breaker bar, and the device showed the precise setting. It appears that the length of the wrench used (in my case 6" vs 13") directly affects the torque.
@@rlyle5804 The length of the wrench should not matter at all in theory as there is no way the torque adaptor can "know" or "see" anything other than the torque that you are applying to the end of the digital torque adaptor. Is it possible that you are changing your technique somehow between the two wrenches? Creeping up to the torque vs. rapidly torquing? Or perhaps using at a different angle?
Can you recommend a good digital torque wrench 1/4 and 1/2 sizes. On a tight budget but want something that will work for doing light torque stuff for bolts for my car and truck.
(👁️👄👁️) they’re very accurate
Yeah it’s crazy
How do you know the harbor freight one isn’t the more accurate one and your snap on is off??? I get it price difference harbor freight is not junk like it used to be I have been to there booths at shows they really stepped up their game image testing same equipment with the opposite names on them it’s crazy what we pay for with the name at the end everything is made in china except aerospace and some gun manufacturing
Tools Tested... is it some one king(queen) size tool? 🤓KING TONY 344071A 😁
Yep very similar
greetings to all the autistic torque wrench enthusiasts all over the world
That torque testing machine has the most annoying sound
Yep and sadly you can’t turn it off, the speaker is soldered to the board…..
I'm absolutely amazed by Quinn's accuracy shown in this video. Harbor Freight is putting out some decent quality tools lately. Growing up, HF was always my favorite place to go for the price. Now that I'm older and primarily buy Milwaukee, its nice to see some cheaper alternatives from HF that actually can compete. Likely buying myself the 1/2 and 3/8 of this after seeing this video.
This is one of the best channels of test of tools here in youtube and one of the few ones that I'm suscribed. Thank you so much for the info! Greetings from Peru.
Thanks for the support, glad to hear you like the videos!
Thanks for testing. Looks like the 3/8 is less than 1/2 a pound off on the lower end. I know it matters more on the lower end but I think I can live with that.
Ive stripped a couple bolts recently with some old torque wrenches. Im interested to see if they are accurate. I had ordered some after market parts since oem was no longer available for a very old honda car. The bolts stripped when tightened to 30pound spec. I think the non oem parts were poorly made but now Im questioning my torque wrench. Im going to buy the 3/8 and 1/2 version to get an idea how accurate my torque wrenches are
Thats crazy how accurate they are.
Yep really is.
Do they have the ability to measure, for a example a 90 degree turn for stretch bolts?
No sadly not, but you can use a manual degree angle gauge after torquing to spec.
I have the 1/2” 1st Gen one. Mine will actually go below the advertised 30 ft lbs minimum. Do you think it’s accurate under that area? I was going to use it to torque some oil pan bolts to 18 ft lbs, but I’m a little weary to do it because it’s not advertised to go that low. What’s your thoughts?
Didn’t see anything in the manual about it
Great channel by the way, just found it yesterday and subbed immediately. Really nice tests man
It definitely diminishes once you get below 20% of max scale. It would probably be +-10%.
I would recommend getting this 3/8.
Thanks for the SUB!
Looking for a good low lb torque wrench finding lot of these tests low end of the scale not all that accurate.
Yeah the low In Lb range can be tricky, anything below 50 I would be looking at a torquing screwdriver. I did test a 1/4 version of the torque adapter here th-cam.com/video/bGo2tlCoVsI/w-d-xo.html
This is very accurate. Accurate enough. I just used it to install some spark plugs on my bmw 18 ft pounds
Yeah its impressive how accurate they are.
I got one of the Gen 2 1/2 adapters for $50. It's amazing. I use it all the time
Is it worth picking up for 150ft lbs uses. My car lug nuts need to be torqued at 150 but that’s the upper limit on my click type torque wrench
@ws4835 yes my Quinn 1/2" goes up to 250
Pretty damn accurate
Solid.
Do they torque right hand and left hand? Or only right hand?
Don’t matter, works in both directions.
Does these do inch pounds as well..the 3/8 second generation that is?
Yep you can change the setting to inch pounds.
Definitely getting one of the half inch adapters
Nice!
👍
So I should return my $400 torque wrench I just bought?
Really depends, if you're using it a lot probably not.
Does anyone know if the torque adapter provides degrees?
Sadly no, only torque.
Awesome video. Thanks!
Thanks! No problem!
Does the ⅜ do inch/lbs
Yes the 3/8 and even the 1/2 can display the setting in In Lbs
subbed!!!
Thanks!
Suggestion: Dump the annoying/distracting 'music'.
👍👍👍 video
Thanks 👍
That was a Very good testing 👌
Thank you!
I need a 1/2” drive torque wrench and I’m debating on the icon split beam torque wrench or a long ratchet and attaching the torque adapter to it. Which one is the better route to go?
I need one of these, but with a smaller head to fit on my ratcheting screwdriver. I couldn’t find one like that from any company. Only standard screwdriver with it built in.
I tested one in 1/4 but the overall size is the same as 3/8 version.
Can I buy them with delivery to Germany?
Sadly they currently don't ship outside the US. This is a major complaint by people who live in Canada as well.
That being said some sellers on Ebay will ship Quinn to Germany.
Also Wisretec sells almost the identical unit model numbers 3/8 BDA3-135 1/2 BDA4-200 3/4 BDA4-340
@@Tools-Tested appreciate you answer🤝
@@Andrey221ua No problem!
@@Tools-Tested This brand Wisretec as accurate as this one(Quinn)?
@@Andrey221ua I only tested it in 1/4, seemed to carry the same accuracy, only thing different was the screen is not back lit.
If anyone could help I’d appreciate it. I recently bought the 1/2 inch and I threw away the instructions and can’t figure out how to change it from ft lbs to inch pounds. Any help I would appreciate thank you.
hit the P/T and M button at the same time
So I bought the 58706 model. Most things I am torquing are 30 to 110 inch pounds. Its range says 25 to 250 foot pounds. So what is the inch pounds range of this device. Do you just multiply foot lbs by 12 and that is the range. Which would make the inch pounds reading basically worthless, or does it read lower inch pound readings. I haven't opened it deciding if I want to exchange it or not.
With how small of measurements you'll want a micrometer
Can you take one of these apart and tell us how they work? It's very cool technology.
It works by wires which change resistance that are glued to the shaft of the adapter. As that resistance changes the circuitry turns the voltage change to an actual torque reading.
@@Tools-Tested I already posted a video explaining this, but the comment was removed. Thanks though
Could you use an impact wrench or driver with these devices or does the vibration make it a no?
No you would never be able to stop in time, proper tool in that case would be a torque stick. amzn.to/42biulo
How do you know when it's at the right torque when it blinks three red dots?
When all 3 dots stop blinking and the beep sound goes solid.
Awesome video! Can these be used with an impact or does it have to be a wrench/bar?
Thanks!, Sadly no you have to use torque sticks with an impact amzn.to/3ESPRzE
Can they be switched to Nm?
Yes they can be switched to Nm
How do you toggle between units
Press the P/T and M button at the same time.
Thx 👍🏻
When the testing began… Between the shrill, squealing, and the annoying, droning music I had to bail. Too irritating. Sorry.
Some people use these to convert regular ratchets to torque wrenches.
I think thats the point
@@jjglistens5312 I think so too, but I’ve also seen people use them to check the accuracy of their torque wrenches.
Yeah or you can use large breaker bars when you are doing higher-torque fasteners. It's nice to do head studs (120-130 lb-ft) with a longer bar since you get a smoother, easier pull than a standard length torque wrench.
@@DaveScottADV This makes sense. People also say that the handle sleeve sometimes moves on click style torque wrenches, which can change the torque setting. This won’t happen if you use the torque adapter on a ratchet or breaker bar.
Thanks! That's definitely useful data. I have the new 1/2". It works well. I've been thinking of getting the 3/8" version. What I want to use the 3/8" for is verifying my low torque range micrometer adjust click wrenches. The 1/2" doesn't go low enough for my 40 - 200 in-lb (Used a lot on ATVs) or my 2 - 20 Nm wrench (which I use often on chainsaws). Based on your test results, I think I'll wait on the 3/8" because it's least accurate where I need it the most. The 1/2" is considerably more accurate.
No problem! Yeah it was interesting that the 3/8 was not the greatest at the bottom of the range.
I did find the manufacturer and they make a 1/4 version DBA2-30 I have it on order but won’t see it till next month.
@@Tools-Tested Outstanding. I'll watch it when you put it through the gauntlet.
@@Tools-Tested Super eager to see that! Thanks so much, as always!
@@Tools-Tested Thanks for the model number. Wonder why HF doesn't sell this one too?
No problem! Hopefully maybe just inventory issues. I don’t see why they wouldn’t sell it.
The one I ordered has to come from China.
I bought this 3/8 adapter, but will be returning it for a regular clicker. I guess if you already have regular torque wrenches, this makes a great addition but as an only torque wrench, it's not versatile in tight spaces.
Yep that’s one of the biggest drawbacks, horrible for tight spaces.
I own the 3/8" and 1/2" and they are VERY accurate... I calibrate my pittsburg click torque wrenches with them... not cheap but these are very improved... the adapters were not great these multiple versions are much better.
Yep some nice improvements over the previous version. Hope we see one in 1/4.
Happy New Year!
Happy new year!