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The Best Articulation? Necks, Torsos, and Pinned vs Pinless Joints
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TONY STARK BUILT THIS IN A CAVE WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS
I was thinking the same thing when he said he made it with a box of scraps 😂
😂😂😂💯
Literally the first thing that popped in my head! Coincidentally, his name is Tony too! 🤣
@@a7xtherevrend almost like he mentioned he quoting the movie
@@charleygarcia518it's my top 3 favourite MCU quote 🤣🤣
What I like about you as a creator and human is how honest you are. You don’t sugar coat anything, even if you enjoy the figure personally, we get the information we need about the releases.
We also don’t get full explanations about joints and tolerances and such from many other reviewers. Keep up the amazing work, congratulations on the growth of your family.
Thanks a lot
@@AnthonysCustomsAlways 🙏🏾
@@AnthonysCustomsI do too 🙏 tastefully 👍
Not gonna lie this was fascinating
Absolutely something a lot of time could be dedicated towards, articulation is the backbone of customization.
Anthony makes his action figures in a basement..! With a bunch of scraps! -Obadiah Stane probably
Hasbro team: well I’m not Anthony customs….
These are great!! 😂
The problem with the disc hinge neck is that it’s ONLY effective going forward and back. Any other angle makes the head stuck looking straight on at the natural angle of the neck. No up or down at any angle other than forward. You can’t get a low angle shot with the figure looking at the camera unless it’s from the front, and getting your figures to look up and down is important from ALL angles, not just forward and back.
Also, the neck is an extremity like arms and legs. It needs to move. We are so used to marvel legends figures having stiff necks that we don’t like to see a neck cut, but allowing the neck to move is what makes the character look like a person and look dynamic. If the whole torso is leaning any given direction, the neck needs to lean as well in order to meet the shoulder for things like punching or shooting poses. Hasbro’s combo of low shoulders and stiff necks just kills the aesthetic of their Marvel Figures.
I would also like to clarify that my personal favorite neck set up is having a ball at the base of the neck, and a disk hinge or double ball at the top of the neck. That way the neck can swivel, allowing the disk hinge to move in all directions rather than just forward and back. The neck will also be able to lean to allow for poses that look natural and not segmented like most legends do.
Just pasted this from the shartimusprime video. Figured it’s better to have it out there on this one too.
This is what kills my enjoyment of most ML, like they are so limited in natural movement. They ONLY look good in the hands of toy photographers because they can hide a lot of the limitations. On a shelf though...they just look kind of goofy. I collect so many lines, but ML just looks the most mid out of all of them.
@@21s_figsI just read this comment in Shart's video. 😂
I am glad you did this video. I am so sick of the hinge in the torso. It doesnt look good and it functions even worse. It doesnt give natural movement and it breaks the sculpt too much
This articulation thing is 100% vegan, NO BEEF!! Happy to see you do this, though I wish you used the same examples as I did. Darwin doesn’t look up as far as the Spidey I used, but the point still stands. And yes, Hasbro can’t double ball joint a neck for squat!
This is the Jimmy Timmy power hour of the action figure world! Love and respect both Anthony and Shartimus. God bless anyone reading this!
You chiming in is crazy… your failed figures had terrible joints and articulation… 😂
With that WACK ass figure line you dropped, go away
Clown
@gloving4hire neither did he 🤣
Collectors: "Anthony was able to build this in his basement! From a box of scraps!"
Hasbro: "I'm sorry, but we're not Anthony."
You thank Hasbro will take notes from this
You know Tony is a nickname for Anthony...
Thank you Anthony. Truly a video collectors need to see. It is completely insignificant to me whether a voice on action figures has a billion followers, or whether the voice is negatively subjective; when it comes to the design details of an action figure - you are the most respected source on this matter for me. I believe my point is shared amongst other collectors, while typing my response the Like count on this video shot from 31 to 156 in mere minutes.
Agreed followers don’t matter when it comes to the details
I love these videos when you back up everything you have been saying with visual evidence along with factual information. Hoping maybe next year your life will smooth out and allow you to make progress on your figures.
I don't mind pinned joints at all. They're fun to do part swaps, easier to fix loose joints...and if there's a showing pin that doesn't match color like Spiderman, I just paint it! Takes two seconds.
Your ninja looks so rad, I'd definitely want one!
What annoys me is that there are people at hasbro who know how to do necks properly. Black Series Clone Wars Darth Maul comes to mind. Same with ball joint waists, why is it standard on Classified Series but you almost never see it Marvel Legends.
Ball joints are the best, but Hasbro seem to struggle with them, to get the range of movement they should have.
I just bought a Black Series HK-87 Assassin Droid from the Ahsoka show. It couldn't look up or down, so I heated and popped the head and carved out a little extra space for the ball joint to work. Same for the torso.
And the new Classifieds can hardly bent forward. Hasbro literally has gotten worse in articulation.
Hammerhead is a good example imo
@datdude158 It's weird how with some of Hasbro's figures you think, finally they're starting to get it, and then they seem to completely forget what they've learned, when they do the next one.
@@derdrein I think they have a mind wipe after each new figure, instead of learning from them.
I don't have any of the latest GI Joe Classified figs. Which do you think are the worst, articulation wise?
Captain America: Articulation War
Facts😂 Team pinless✊🏻
Brave new Articulation
@gloving4hire “get in my guard, bro”
Team Captain Anthony for life (I know it is ironic to call him Captain since he likes Iron Man more, but shut up)
@@reeda1746 Mackey
it would be really funny if you ever release your toy line in a clear plastic version where the ball joints are visible for other toy companies to see and learn how articulation is properly utilized but of course we gotta respect a magician's secret.
Clear figures but the joints are bright red
@@AnthonysCustoms definitely worth displaying on the shelf
Could You run a limited run of that translucent ninja as is? It's just gorgeous
There will likely be something like that offered at some point
@@AnthonysCustoms If the ninja is offered translucent I WILL DEFINITELY army build them. They make really good shadow/after effect!
Thanks for the lesson Anthony. The entire community needs to watch this video. More importantly, the legends design team needs to watch this video. Maybe even pay you to consult for them because they sorely need help.
Its actually crazy when you did the side by side with your proto and darwin for the neck. The similar up and down range while also being able to move the head in all directions all without an ugly lollipop gap. I always agreed with you on the neck but seeing it in action showed how good and easy it could be. Great video!
Rival update! Hell yeah!!! Do what you need brother. I'm excited once you get everything settled.
Enjoying the lecture from Prof Anthony! Learning so much, keep em coming!
Also hope you get more time to resume Rival collectibles!
Thanks. Here's hoping
Brilliant video, Mister Anthony. Very informative! You are one of the most erudite action figure reviewers, analysts and thinkers of this age, my friend. Incredible work! 👏
Now, I realise I have not commented much on your recent resurgence of videos - but as an ardent supporter of yours, please do know [that] I have watched, liked and shared each and every single one of them [with] my family, friends, peers and fellow colleagues.
Thank you for sharing, 👍
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Thank you. That was super informative. I really enjoy seeing the technical aspects of toymaking.
My only problem with endless figures is that they’re much harder to fix if you have a loose joint, what I like to do on figures with pins is take the joint apart add glue into the inside then after the glue hardens, I’ll put it back together. I use it on my Spider-Man Stark suit figure and it works wonders
KiKi loose joints
This was super intuitive and fascinating to watch and gave me a new way of looking at figures. Thanks, Anthony.
Glad you liked it
Fantastic video Anthony! This is why you're my favorite action figure reviewer. You offer a very critical but fair review and are the realest of collectible reviewers. Glad I stumbled across your channel a few years ago
I'm glad you did too. Thanks
What that neck do? 😂😂😂
It's always fun when you let Anthony cook.
Thanks Anthony, great video, enjoyed it. Also you said the most important thing, it's all about preference what you prefer and don't prefer and you gave us an excellent explanation of all the different options for articulation .
I’ve been agreeing on your opinions and facts about articulation for years and it’s so good to see an in depth video about the articulation solidifying that double ball pegs are always better for necks and torso’s and I 100% agree on everything you say in this video thank you Anthony for the reviews
I love the pinless joints people hailing hasbro as if they did some new thing, when toybiz' first wave of spider-man classics over 20 years ago all had the three piece pinless elbows and knees.
You make your own fugures? *penny drops* Your channel name so much more sense now. I've only been watching you for a month or two, this was your best most informative and interesting video yet.
Thanks. I started by making custom figures per commission. Now I'm developing my own line and i do still make custom parts for sale from time to time
Go watch his custom Mr freeze he did years ago! There are other videos about articulation too. Not trying to be a fan boy but been following Anthony for years, but hands down he is the best figure reviewer on TH-cam
AC goes wayyyy back, he is one of the founding fathers for youtube toy/reviews/customs.
One way or another you have been saying these things since I started watching your videos literal years ago but bro lectured (politely) and I learned even more. Thank you sir 🫡🫡🫡
This was a master class in action figure articulation and design. I really enjoyed this video and agree with everything you said about articulation 1000% (Expect the pinless part😂)Ball pegs area always the way to go. This gets me even more excited for your figure line. Keep up all the great work .
the amount of people in this comment section that typed their comment in the middle of the video is hilarious. so many of them start out making an argument against a point you made when it gets explained in the video almost right away. just watch the whole thing and then share your thoughts people lol. another nice and to the point informational video, man. hope all is well with the family
thanks a lot. i appreciate it
Excellent video brother. Without exaggeration you gave the most in depth, comprehensive and no bullshit analysis on how joints function. There i nothing to argue about..its all facts! Now if someone thinks Hasbro is justified in it's incompetence on figure articulation fine...but facts speak louder I think...
Fantastic video as always and now maybe people will get off my back for hating the reverse ab crunch. Wish you’d thrown Jada Toys Fei Long in here as well, as he’s a great example or good torso articulation but your Prototype works just as well! Can’t wait to see the line come out whenever that may be.
I couldn’t agree with u more about the neck joint especially. It’s silly to me that this is a conversation as I think its obvious to most people y having the tilt looks and is so much better in posing options. As others have said I’ve always enjoyed ur content going way way back I’m not sure how long I’ve been subscribed but it’s been a hot min and ur reviews always help me decide if a figure is worth getting or not. If it has issues I know of said issues and I can decide if I want the figure bad enough to over look the issues. Thanks, u have saved me a lot of money over the years lol otherwise I’d have been disappointed many times with my purchases. I look forward to many more years of great content.
Enjoyable video. I'm glad to hear the Rival Colectables are still alive and well. I have asked about them in the past but heard nowt about it. No hate intended, just curiosity. The prototypes look fantastic.
For me Jada have a great articulation setup. Ball joint at the base of the neck coupled with a dumbell joint in the upper neck and skull, is a winner. Ball joints in the upper and lower torso. They also have pinless joints (which I like) that match the arms and leg colour. Not sure why Hasbro can't. I haven't yet had any issues of looseness with pinless figs. I have had it with pinned.
It's nice to see and hear about the philosophy of action figure making. I've been avoiding the 6" scale figures of Hasbro for quite a bit as I found so many inconsistencies in the material or quality control. I just wish that 1/15 great figures they make wouldn't be the standard: it should be more.
I think another point that I wish you could bring up for a future video (a sequel) are toe joints, hips and armpit/butterfly joints. We're seeing more and more drop down hips and badly done toe joints and the latest of Mafex, Ahsoka, is a major candidate for that stuff. I know you've been showing examples across your reviews to bring the point home but I suppose it bears repeating for those calling you pessimistic or a hater of this industry.
Wow it’s crazy almost like Bandai knows what they’re doing somewhat compared to hasbro and marvel legends omg
Also I have mad respect for you Anthony. You’re an actual human being, idiots don’t realize that, they think you’re just a video making construct. It feels silly that needed to be addressed about your figure line, but we know idiots exist.
Well if you don't think Shart was throwing shade after reading his comments in his videos, then kudos to you. You're a bigger man than I am. He didn't say much in his video but said that people watching you are repeating what you said, like mindless drones, in the comment section. He made several other comments to that effect and it made him sound extremely salty.
If he was that's his prerogative. I'm not going to participate either way. My video stands on its own and you'll notice, I didn't mention him at all other than to say he made a couple videos.
@AnthonysCustoms I did notice you didn't participate, that's why I gave kudos for being the bigger man.
There is absolutely ZERO shade thrown at Anthony. My problem is with people repeating other’s phrases word for word as if proclaiming the words of Jesus. It’s rather annoying. Trust me, I agree with the vast majority of Anthony’s points than don’t.
It's definitely good to encourage critical thinking.
@@ShartimusPrime I knew that wasn’t shade people just want beef😂 They can’t have just a civil conversation, we all toy lovers just sharing thoughts.
Outstanding video, I understand the pros and cons of various articulation setups better. When you make your action figure line I'll be definitely buy them.
I really like the esthetic of your figures. They don't need the extra neck articulation. Anxiously awaiting their release!
I recently got the spin master kratos, and I gotta say that it has the best head ball joint I ever saw, and it gives all the range and versatility a double ball joint does. At a very good price, I suggest all GoW fans should get it.
Where do I find
@@JosSanJi no fr where can I buy it
I agree disc hinge needs to never be put on a figure ever again, base of the neck isn’t needed but appreciated, yes ball pegs🙌🏻 the crunch is overrated, take care of the family absolutely🫡, I love how pinned Vs pinless had the most breakdown well explained, I’ll always prefer pinless especially more how SHF does it, great vid Anthony👌🏻
This was a master class on articulation.
The legends team is taking notes hopefully 😅
I don't think so 😅
Probably not sadly😂 disc hinge, ab crunch, & inconsistent colors still how they like it😂
This was a great video!!! I learned a lot about Action Figures watching your videos!!! Double Ball joint necks, big on bottom, small on top is something I look for every time. big shoulders proportioned to the body and arms is something I can't unsee when looking at figures. Keep doing the attentive work you do, I appreciate it. What about the Hips, dreaded drop-down versus regular correct construction, Like that Modular Iron-Man which is one of my favorite "Marvel Legends". Thanks again for the info, Until the Next one!!! Peace!!!
Thanks a lot. I'll do a video for hips eventually.
Great video. One other advantage to pinned joints (at least compared to how Hasbro does pinless) that you didn't mention though, is how it makes kitbashing and customizing figures infinitely easier. Coincidentally the same goes for ball-jointed waists/torsos compared to the swivel/hinge type. I've definitely been frustrated with some MLs and Joes when I've got them in hand and realised I wouldn't be able to swap certain parts around like I'd hoped.
It's true. I just didn't want to cover something that isn't inherently about the figure in this video.
This isn't completely relevant here, but I figured this would be a good place as any to comment this. The Has Bros are so set in their mindset that Hasbro can not do wrong, so if a joint isn't working, they blame the joint itself instead of Hasbro. When double ball pegs don't work, they say the joint doesn't work - it's not Hasbro's fault.
Then you have Anthony, he straight up says Hasbro does joints *wrong* , and that's why they don't work. The HasBros get so pissed at this that their only way to cope is by saying "Well he's just a hater, he doesn't like anything."
Well that's not true, Anthony likes good stuff, Hasbro just chooses not to make good stuff. It's not Anthony's they design things wrong lol
I think the main issue also with hasbro/marvel legends defenders is that it really does feel like they quite literally only buy marvel legends/hasbro products and next to nothing else. It’s the reason why I feel that they can look at things like the retro card/renew your vows spidey mold or the new black widow mold and say “omg, best figure ever guys!!! Hasbro really knocked it of the park!” When compared to what other companies are doing, those molds are pretty mediocre overall. However, for someone who only buys Hasbro products, those molds probably do feel like step up if you have nothing better to compare them to.
@justicemagnum5242 Yeah, I agree. That tends to be the case with a lot of ML collectors, that's all they buy. All they compare Hasbro to is ToyBiz, which just isn't fair to ToyBiz.
I don't even think it's that for many of the reviewers. Most of the big reviewers do collect other lines, but I think the nostalgia factor of both Marvel characters AND the Marvel Legends line tends to curb their bias. They have too much attachment there.
I notice that the DC Multiverse line gets a lot of hate and generally overlooked by the same guys, even though the quality is rather relative between the lines, with McFarlane giving slightly more value for dollar. That says to me what I've always known, DC is not as popular and normie centric as Marvel.
Let's be real, most of us grew up when Marvel was cooking in animation and comics, collecting everything Toybiz was putting out in the 90s. ML is the spiritual succesor to that, so it scratches that itch that no other line does with variety that Toybiz used to give us as kids. Basically, these guys are so deep in it that they don't care to look at the line from an objective standpoint. Objectively, ML is the laziest and lowest quality domestic 1/12 line out there and it's blatant at this point. There's no other reason to not see it unless you are being biased towards it.
@@ReeceHoward06 Very true, something I wonder is perhaps there’s also a subconscious fear within Marvel Legends collectors that if they give the line too much flak or stop buying every release, then Marvel Legends will die again. I still remember the days of Legends fans begging for the line to come back and also hating on Marvel Universe back when that line was going strong (at least some of them did anyway), followed by jumping for joy once Legends actually returned.
As a former but current ML collector, ik hasbro is lazy and puts out trash and outdated tech, but it's affordable compared to imports that feel very fragile and crumbles in your hands. I wouldn't want to spend $60+ on something that is very small and feels like it will break right away. Also collecting is just a hobby not a lifestyle I feel the need to spend $100 for 1 figure that lacks paint and detail, (ex: mafex). The only other line I feel is worth the money is Mezco. Lots of details, paint and accessories, even though it's very pricey.
What would be a good figure company to replace hasbro ML?
Thank you for explaining and for updating us on your figure line. I'm a big fan of your work.
I REALLY like the way you're making your figs. Almost EXACTLY the way I would do it. I had a very similar idea. No lie.
I would maybe suggest one thing. Swappable parts. Maybe small rivet pins to be able to swap parts. Always a fun idea. Especially for customizers like myself. Keep up the good work Anthony. I'll be waiting
I really wish compies would fix the hip/leg articulation point. Most companies do a huge gap there and it looks terrible, especially on the female characters wearing thongs or bikini bottoms. The Loose Collector Lady Death and the rest of those are all like that. It doesnt look natural at all and in certain poses you end up with a butt flap
To me, in the cases of the torso having some kind of symbol (Like the spidey logo) an Ab Crunch and a Ball joint at the waist is better since the logo doesn't break up when posing, other than that specific scenario I agree :D
Family definitely comes first. Those first couple of years when my daughter was born was basically work 24/7 so there was no time for anything else.
Edit: I think the only type of joint I’ve seen that are totally different from what you mentioned are transformers hips/knees/elbows with teeth + spring loaded pins that allow that heavy ratcheting since they use all hard plastics. The “give” in the ratchet comes from the spring loaded pin.
Thanks for a great video! Hope the people who need to see it actually gonna see it.
By the way at some point later on in the video it starts to glitch
Glitch how? Timestamp? My file isn't glitched. I checked before i uploaded
@@AnthonysCustoms the video itself freezes for a couple of frames and jumps forward while the sound is okay. It happens in 24:00-24:20 a few times and before that
That's weird. I don't have that on my file so it must be a thing with TH-cam. Who knows. At least it isn't super problematic.
@@AnthonysCustoms noticed that too on the latter half of the video, but the audio is still consistent which is the main thing so no biggie
I will never understand how hasbro hasnt perfected the neck joints in marvel legends when they literally got it right in the Star Wars black series Boba Fett
Good video. I agree with you about your huge balls. I'm an artist and the old school wooden mannequins that we use are pretty much perfect. Doesn't need much more finesse and adaptation for action figures.
Thank you for the in depth explanation of your stance towards articulation and about the pinned and pinless joints. A side note, is that I kind of feel you dying a little bit inside when you have to disassemble your prototype to explain. Hopefully you would get time to pursue your toyline but you're right, family comes first.
Thanks. These protos were never meant to last so... It's ok. It did hurt a little though lol
Awesome video. Love stuff like this. Slowly working on a 3d printer strider(Hiryu, not aragorn) figure and i think you've given me some insight on basically what not to do. Much appreciated
Great video, love to learn about the engineering that goes behind action figures. On another topic... that prototype looks sick !! Take all the time you need, just know that you've got a customer right here !
Could actually make that ninja as a final figure, could be like a cloaked ninja chase variant.
Can't wait for these figs.
shartimus got sharted with this explanation
Balls n pegs, balls n pegs. Hahaha 😂😂😂.
If you do a follow-up video, I’d love a dive into what separates articulation in figures like SH Figuarts compared to the ones shown here. Your touched on it, but I’d be interested in more detail :)
All very valid points... I however like gummy figures they are a joy to put in a pose. The 1st wave of classified joes I got I cut off the teeth so that they are all buttery. I can no longer do that due to the pinless, ugly, stiff af joints. I can no longer customize any figures either cause of the same reason. Entire limbs have to be changed out instead of a section and mixing and matching upper and lower joints. Or having only the ability to cross breed a pinless with a pinned and ruining one of the limbs forever. Perfect example of don't fix it if it isn't broken. The real reason they did it is cause hasbro are cheap and it costs less... Less engineering and less materials. They turned 12 parts into 4 and numbers always win. I also assume they don't use balls for everything is cause the hasbro factory struggle with tension fitting. A ball figure is a work of art where a hinged figure is just slopped together without falling apart. If Hasbro made balls I bet it'd be a QC nightmare lol.
I hate pineless joints sooo much. There is a one more way that has to is doing pineless joint. Inside the molded pineless joints, inside that little circle there are there are ridges and on the molded pins too. They started using them with the newer g.i. Joe figures, don’t know what was the first figure, but for example Lady Jaye. If you warmup the joint and cut one side of the joint and remove an arm or a leg completely you will see what I’m talking about. I do this to all of my newer hasbro figures because it makes the joints move more smoothly. I noticed that Jada Toys is using the same technique. Hope you guys understand what was I trying to say because English is not my native language😊
shartimus’s articulation video proved that he knows nothing about articulation and this video just proves that even more. Good job Anthony! I can’t wait for your Rival line
Agreed with all the arguments. Double balljoints for the necks and torsos are the way to go. Mafex and Jada constantly prove the power and versatility of this setup.
Thank you Anthony for making this video. I completely agree. I respect both you and Shartimus a lot, but i think this explanation video are make sense. If you use ball hinge/disk on the neck, the only benefit you get is up and down, not to mention some of the comic characters have long hair which is even more impossible to look up, so what's the point?
I hope some companies watching this articulation explanation video. ESPECIALLY Hasbro, 'cause they're seems don't know how to make a proper functioning action figures. So thank you Anthony. Sorry for bad english, i'm from Asia, Keep up the good work.
I value what you're doing with your action figures line. Seems to be good to work out the kinks in design stage ya know. How about an o ring situation like an Old GI Joe waist to make everything you're doing just more durable?
This video is a straight Mic Drop!
Speakin facts,
Thank you for this video!
Just started collecting last year. After watching this video, thank you Anthony, I’m a little more informed on action figures. I see how Hasbro, lately, is just riding on good face sculpture to justify the price. Good video.
Nice video, very educational. Hopefully you'll do one about the hips where every company botches it up upon being unable to do the splits.
Gotta love the Anthony Stark reference.
Seems Hasbro would only need to hire one competent person to design the joints for them but they apparently can't afford that.
That translucent figure is fire i want that
Thanks for this, I learnt a lot about the pinless joints and my hate for them feels justified.
Double ball peg is win in every angle
Damn straight
Is anyone else seeing dropped frames/odd jumps in sequencing once we get to the pinned vs. pinless discussion section? I thought it was my TV at first but I'm seeing it on my PC now too, so it must be a camera flub.
Looking forward to the release of Rival Clans and hoodie ninja still. He ran circles around McFarlane's MK11 Scorpion as a torso and head, and I'm eager to get a fully realized product in-hand when the day comes. Would you consider putting out a muscular dude-in-briefs body for potential customizing fodder? Thinking about that one guy who wanted to use Ka-Zar and turn him into Simon Belmont, but I'd want a better base body...
I don't have it on the main file. Or most be a TH-cam thing
Yeah some of the frames are being dropped
This was really informative, thanks.
As a customizer, I prefer pins, I still haven't found a way to prep pinless joints...
A lot of articulation just comes down to the balance of function and aesthetics. You try to keep those in harmony as best as possible while also acknowledging it can change from character to character. Professor X doesn't need the same range of motion as Deadpool. With Hasbro, I think they don't do a great job of this. Pins are apparently too ugly to utilize, but miscolored knees and elbows are okay? Characters with hollow heads and broken necks are better than those without? And you didn't touch on the crap that is the drop-down hip. I personally like ball joints and feel they should be used as much as possible. Hinges should be kept mostly to shoulders, wrists, and ankles. That's just me though.
It sounds like you have plans to get back to doing your own figures, any desire to do more custom parts? That animated Beast head you've done in the past is pretty damn good.
Yes. There will be more of that too.
Great vid like always 👍 super hyped for your figure line, best of luck with all upcoming work 😁
Btw, I like pinless as much as everyone else but so long as they're not ugly and distracting like a McFarlane figure, pins are totally fine!
Pinless can be good when executed well. Some Marvel Legends pinless joints have been terrible in their execution. Some of the pinless joints have utilized that gummi plastic as well.
Valaverse Action Force has done pinless joints very well in my opinion.
Looking forward to Rivals. Love that more fans are jumping into the action figure game. Companies like Valaverse, Fresh Monkey Fiction, Ramen Toy, etc... are doing a good job of creating healthy competition for companies like Hasbro. So can't wait to see you enter the ring.
This has been a great video. The most I knew of articulation is that double ball pegs just seem to work better 🤣 good to see an actual explanation
As far as the head joint is concerned, I agree 100% that the old disk hinge neck is outdated and looks absolutely ugly. A double ball joint is really the way to go here. But it has to be implemented well. The small nuances that the DBJ allows give each figure a certain liveliness.
As far as pin vs. pinless is concerned, I tend to go for the pinless version for aesthetic reasons. But I still understand that from an engineering point of view it is not the most stable method.
What is most annoying about the pins is often not the pin itself, but the visual implementation. If the ends of the pins become extremely large disks that are then stuck too deep in the holes, the shadows cast create a very unaesthetic appearance. If pins are comparatively thin and also go all the way to the surface of the limb and adapt perfectly to this surface, then they are far less annoying. Unfortunately, this is rarely the case, especially with Hasbro.
Regarding the reverse ab crunch: I prefer this setup for one reason alone. If the torso is very oval in cross-section and is not covered by an overlay (and even then), a normal torso swivel creates such an ugly cut on the figure that it becomes aesthetically pretty useless for me. It looks as if the figure has been broken in the middle and the two halves have been hastily placed on top of each other. A setup like that in Jada's streetfighter line would be absolutely better. Mcfarlane does something like that in principle, but only in principle and unfortunately it is usually completely ineffective. The old setup with the normal ab crunch also has the disadvantage that you cannot bend the figure to the side in the upper body, which is very detrimental to the dynamics.
But who asks the cows in the end? We should give our milk for all the shareholders, investors and managers and otherwise remain silent in the stable. ;-)
Thank you so much for reviews of your prototypes like this. They're really entertaining and your figures are top notch. I want to give you a tip for your prototypes though, especially for the shoulder area to see if you can execute it well. I think Sentinel Spider-Verse type of balljointed shoulders are so simple and yet so effective. I think every company which don't use butterfly joints can use that type of joint, I can even say that Hasbro should ditch the butterfly joints and get into the balljointed shoulders because they don't know how to do it without downgrading the proportions of their figures at this point. I would really like to see you try those joints. Thanks again for these videos, keep going man.
Thank you! That was really interesting. I've been looking forward to seeing some articulation videos by you.
This was very interesting.
Anthony, I have a small suggestion - can you release a NINJA WEAPONS PACK? 🥷 🥷 🥷 katanas/ninjatos, sheaths optional pegs, shurikens, kunais, kusarigamas, a mini compound bow..
this can be a simple intro/fund raiser to launch Rival Collectibles.
hope you’ll consider, we all have storm shadows, deadpools, tmnts in our collection.
with weapon handles that can be gripped tightly.. metallic paint that’s not easily rubbed off, sturdy and not gummy weapons - it’ll be really nice to have.
Solid break down. I feel so smart now 😅. I do still like the upper ball/reverse crunch if the upper double ball is done right and only on some figures that dont have belts or pants does it look better. Double double set up is always more dynamic especially if both have good range
This is what I've been waiting for for years! 🙏
When I used that icons articulation, it was good for 12” but when it’s on 6”, I agree, it’s not good. Double ball peg is the way to go.
Yep. Can't beat the ball joints. Glad to see Action Force continually being successful. Keep up the good work.
Seeing you possibly going with some Ronin/Samurai aesthetics, I would buy so many of your figures if they allow me to kitbash a Shura Wolf from Sekiro.
Honestly I really hope you lean into more Ronin looking figures, most companies always make Samurai or Ninja but really never nail the Ronin or Vagabond look.
You'll get all of the above.
@@AnthonysCustoms Can’t wait, they’ll look great in my case!
People love glazing the renew your vows set up in the torso and shit on figures like the new superior spidey for not having it. I got the superior spidey and forgot how much fun a marvel legends spidey can be. I enjoy it way more than the ryv set up. Something about that one always felt so limited.
The RYV body is awful for spider-man imo, too tall and chunky. The Amazing Fantasy body is much better imo
Great stuff! Love this video. Totally getting one or two of your Rival Collectibles figures once they become available. I just realised that figures with pins are best. Your explanation of preferred joint parts remind me of McFarlane DC Multiverse figures. Just saying. They’re getting close to perfect, the only real problem is whacked out proportion, and not enough range in the torso.
Yay! Wasn't expecting this yet. Very nice explanation. I look forward to seeing more in the future. But for now I'd say this covered things well enough. Thank you for making this, and showing more close up details of your Rival Clan figures. I had seen all the prior videos, but I could never quite see how you made the torso cavity and stuff, now I know EXACTLY what to do with the custom I've been working on for... years now... lol
I wanted to point out on the topic of Neck range. That Spider-man figure you showed in this video. if He had proper ball joints like yours, you could still cut a bit of plastic from the back of the neck (like he has already), and get that extra Hasbro range. It would hurt the look of it a little bit but I think that could work. (Not a suggestion on your Rival Clan line, just an observation) Now, if only Hasbro would just do it right in the first place.. Also, it's amazing how close your range was to theirs. I love Ball joints so much.
Also I'm wondering if Hasbro has some kind of rule with their lines about the abb joints.. like its a brand recognition kinda thing? It'd be weird if that was the reason why they keep using them.. But it's the ONLY reason I can think of. Other than, they just don't care... Which is probably the actual reason...
This is the Jimmy Timmy power hour of the action figure world! Love and respect both Anthony and Shartimus. God bless anyone reading this!
can i have that clear ninja?? lol jk he looks great man he would be a ghost ninja