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Those of us with the early Porsche PCM fitted to our 996s will know the infotainment system is ancient - so much so its role is redundant in our modern classic 911. However, if like me you use your Porsche 996 Carrera daily, connectivity to the modern world is important: wether it's using maps and navigation, communicating with friends, streaming music or listening to your favourite podcasts (mine is Road to Redline). Luckily, Porsche Classic has come up with a properly genius product that can give us all this modern-day connectivity within our modern classic, and I've been keen to test it out for some time.
It's called PCCM+ (Porsche Communication Management Plus), and takes the single-DIN PCCM unit originally made available for air-cooled classics last year, reinventing it in double-DIN format especially for the 996. But is it any good?
In this video, I get PCCM+ installed in my 996.1 Carrera and, after a few days getting used to all its new features, present you the rundown of what it's like to live with. This is the most in-depth review you'll find of Porsche PCCM+ anywhere on the internet, so I hope it suitably shows you exactly what this new infotainment system is like and answers any questions you may have about it. If you've any further questions of course, pop them in the comments below and I'll endeavour to get back to you.
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Planning on installing one in my 1985.5 Porsche 944. Appreciate the review!
You have 2 options....You can peel off the protective film on the screen or you can cut off the little tab on the top right. No other option is acceptable.
You're damned right, Conor. I'll probs rip the whole film off… eventually.
@@9WERKSTV live a little. How is it almost a year on?
A must for one of these 996’s. Great update. Wish they did something similar for my M3, OEM
I’ve had the unit installed in my 2002 996 Targa. The installer Auto Umbau, put it in fully integrated with no wires surface mounted at all. Not only that the USB unit is installed in the glove box out of the way, with a blue tooth dongle, I even connect to AppleCar Play with no wires. Quite an improvement on your install Lee. Thanks as always for the review though it reinforced my buying decision!
Looks great .... very interesting and such a great idea. Nice that Porsche acknowledges the 986 and 996 are still relevant and now can be modern .... brilliant stuff.
Great review, thanks from Barcelona!
Good on Porsche for doing this and continuing to support their older cars. I wanted to replace my 997.1 PCM but didn’t want the cheap Chinese options or hard work in fitting a iPad in the double din unit. Unfortunately I sold the 997 now but still use the iPad I purchased but never installed.
The Porsche unit is made in China
Really useful review; looks great and I’m sure adding those extra features will make it a much more convenient daily driver 👍
Great Video Lee. Top quality information and knowledge!
Waiting for this one! Thanks 🌟🙌
Thanks for this review. I’m waiting for the 987 version apparently due next year - hopefully by then CarPlay will be wireless. I have been tempted by aftermarket but held off because I like the way the car / dash integrates with PCM3. Also tempting is the £500 kit which can add (wireless!) CarPlay to your existing PCM3 - that might be a better compromise.
Good video thanks for making it. Just subscribed to your Road to Redline podcast too 🙂
Thanks Amber, you've great taste!
Great to hear you say that the 996 PCM needs to be brought into the 21st century. Very expensive unit can be done appropriately with lesser cost. Thanks for the great review.
Thanks Francis!
Thanks for the detailed review. I've been on the fence about this since the price point is a bit high compared to non-OEM units. I do like how you mounted the USB/AUX box to the side, it bugs me to see that whole storage bin basically negated by having it right in the middle.
Great review, thanks. Was getting all enthused until you got to the price bit at the end... for a daily driver I see the benefit, but my 996.2 C2 manual is an occasional driver for driving pleasure mostly, so all the features of PCCM Plus, while desirable, are not essential. Keep up the great reviews!
Appreciate the kind words and feedback!
Looking forward to this being released for my 9972. GTS! Thank you for making this video!
My pleasure.
Same for my 991.1! Although, I hope for the 991.1 they design it such that the existing antennas, microphone, ports, etc. are all re-used.
Steven W I believe a model is eligible for “Classic” status 15 years after production is ended. So it may be a while for you. Thomas
Great review! I will buy this for my 996!
I have been waiting for this review, and much as I’d like to remove the lower center console for leg comfort, it would then make this upgrade more difficult/unviable and yes I suspect used market would appreciate this mod. Well, I want my engine and transmission mounts done along with other rear bushings done before this despite my CD selection buttons not performing reliably.
Great review - 100% agree with the comments and conclusions.
Had this unit fitted in my C4S 5 weeks ago. Delighted. Not inexpensive, but compared to a sensible higher end after market unit - particularly if you have the optical BOSE system - by the time you’ve added adapters, converters ... and fascias (and they all do look after market) ... the added cost is more than justified.
Looks great. Sounds great. And looks, as it is, OEM.
I can’t see anyone being disappointed with one of these.
Good to hear you're very happy with your unit, Brett!
Welcome Lee
A few things to add that might help some of your subscribers.
Saw a question somewhere about whether the Nav info still appears in the instrument cluster. Mine replaced a PCM 2 and does but only on the native PCCM+ SatNav and not with any of the Apple CarPlay apps - Maps, Waze, Google. So as expected.
Had it fitted by Porsche Portsmouth who did a great job. The all in was about £2k with the storage tray replacing the CD trays. Felt reasonable. Considered a self install but apparently a lot of coding. Better to have peace of mind knowing that Porsche have done the work.
Was particularly impressed that the DAB and GPS antennae in mine are out of sight - I think behind the plastic scuttle under the widescreen. Again very neat and work fine.
I have the USB box mounted further back in the storage tray and like it being a bit more concealed. Bought a short (20cm) Lightning cable with a 90° USB connector - now very neat!
OEM microphone is, apparently, the wrong gain. The mounting on top of the steering column housing is discrete and well positioned for voice pick up.
Sound quality is more than adequate linked to the BOSE system. For me not really any point in looking for an improvement over this as standard with the road and engine noise. I’d rather listen to the exhaust note most of the time! That said, it is loud and clear enough to drown out both!
I am very happy!
When’s the next 996 meet? Hoping to be there.
@@brettcooper9032 Absolutely first class feedback for all to benefit from here, thanks for sharing - that's exactly the mantra under which I created this channel. As Boris lets us all meet up again, there will be a 996 meet - hopefully in a cool location for us all to enjoy.
I've also replaced my PCM1 8 bit nav CD unit with PCCM+on my 02 Targa & delighted with the result. I have non MOST Bose system so had to fit an additional cable not incl in the unit to remove over amplification issue. One to be aware of in non MOST Bose cars pre 2003 MY.
David can you please tell more about the additional cable? Is it connected with the white noise and volume gain (too fast)? I have the non most bose system and my porsche dealer is looking for solution.
@@bonczekcrx
My fitter use a Mazda Bose interface cable as per photo in link.
instagram.com/p/CEO-knKlwpm/?igshid=u4yrbqkaqhnx
Apols I don't have the part number as I've lost photo of bag it came in. There is a thread on 911UK forum where a guy used a SAAB cable..same interface for linking an oem Bose amp with an aftermarket headunit.
Does that also comes with Multifunction Steering wheel supporting port? in case someone managed to fit newer type 911 Steering wheel in it. would it be able to use Play/Pause by wheel buttons?
I see at the end you predicted there would be something available for 997 owners soon. Which is great. In the meantime there is a nice aftermarket product for 997 owners which integrates a modern cell phone (both cellular and Bluetooth audio) into the existing 997 PCM unit. It goes by various names such as "L.A. Power" and "Mr. 12 Volt". Works really well and very inexpensive to buy (around $140 USD). It lets you keep your existing 997 audio hardware but gives you most modern conveniences such as listening to music on your phone or via USB stick. Can be found on Amazon and eBay.
Any link? I couldn't find either
This is so good!
I agree, the PCCM plus looks factory and should add value to car unlike other mods. Thanks for sharing upgrade. Cheers
My pleasure!
Thanks for a great review! As someone else pointed out below, not sure I would be ok with the gps and microphone install. Would be nice to know if you could reuse the original microphone spot.
Also, worth noting, if you are only looking for music/podcasts streaming, there's a gsm module you can replace in your PCM1 which adds that bluetooth functionality to it. It retains the whole look'n'feel (including the board computer, cd changer, etc.) and it is also cheaper. I use that every drive.
Appreciate the feedback Jan, on my review and also the alternative options!
i have it on my 996C2 and strangely i night mode, (when head lignts are on) only the buttons are lighted not the 2 round controls . did you noticed it? thanks in advance and cheers from france ;)
Great review! Why does it not use the original mic? or at least the same position?.... the same goes for the GPS ariel.... No way do i want those horrid looking lumps on my dash.
Hi. Great channel - I appreciate your knowledge and passion for Porsches. I would like to purchase this double DIN system for my 996 4S. I wonder if I could connect aftermarket reverse camera to work with a PCCM+ ? I cannot see any cinch RCA plugs at the back of it, there are some RCA/USB converters but I doubt if it’s going to work that way... Any idea? Regards
Looks very good, agree absolutely about other systems I have just purchased a 996 as a project and it has a Sony system it looks horrendous, great to see Apple CarPlay, informative as always
Thanks Alan, appreciate you sharing about your Sony system too.
I was onboard till I read you cannot add a backup camera to it. As of now, I plug my phone in on a magnet which faces up and my view of a map is actually easier. Visually it's great and makes the car look updated.
The kit seems really cool. There are adapters adapters/dongles available that connect to the USB port that allow wireless connectivity for CarPlay units that required a wired connection from the factory. Do you know if they would work with this unit? I got one for my 2016 Golf R and it was great addition.
any extra inputs on the unit to add a reverse camera? asking for a friend...
If my 996 doesnt have PCM 1 and had the hvac and radio both in that upper area of the dash is it still possible to install pccm+ and move the hvac down to the lower slot where the cd changer is?
I can Bluetooth my Sirius via a iPhone app to my Blaupunkt Toronto. Would I have to get a separate Sirius subscription to use the sat radio on the PCCM?
Hy, nice review thnx! I just noticed recently, that the buttons on my PCCM are not illuminate during the night, 'though there is an option for it in the menu. Is it normal or mine not working properly?
Hello. Will it still show the directions to be followed on your intrument cluster if you use the "native" PCM instead of third party apps? Thank you so much.
I don't seem to get the same volume all the time from Apple Car Play as I do from the radio tuner itself. any suggestions? all my volume settings are at 5
Great review. I'm waiting for one for my 06 Boxter. I am interested to know if the quality of the sound is better than the OEM radio. I have a Bose system in mine which is just adequate.
Great video. One q: does this allow you to control the CD changer that’s in the frunk?
Amazing review I totally want one!!
Wot a guy! Very helpfull
Thank you!
That Nine Eleven Guy
I got a 996 with 230k miles for buttons lol just had new ecu, how long u reckon it will last me? 🤪😜🙈
Wanted a 911 since I was 8 years old! More excited about driving it for 1st time on Tuesday than I was above getting married hahahahaha
I love the screen but I'm not crazy about the USB, mic, and GPS mounting locations. I think I'd have mounted them more discreetly. Nice video!
I thought the mic and GPS antenna was a direct replacement - i.e. get installed in the original location. Has anyone had this unit installed in a 996.2 with the MOST bus and BOSE options? Does it maintain the fader and subwoofer controls?
Great piece and perfect timing. Having a 996 Gen 2 GT3 I’m also looking at bringing the audio up to date. Mine does not have the lower console so I’m leaning towards the single DIN PCCM. I have spoken to my local main dealer, but at the time they knew nothing about it. Had to show them the Porsche release material on the 2 versions. Just need them to confirm the PCCM is compatible.
Cheers Malcolm. I'm not sure the 1DIN unit is available for the 996, I'll find out.
From Porsche Classic this morning: "The single DIN PCCM unit will fit into the 996 centre console and give you Apple Carplay functionality and DAB+. Unfortunately Google Andorid Auto is only available on the Double DIN PCCM+ unit so that’s worth considering depending on what phone you have."
That Nine Eleven Guy
Lee, thank you for the update and information provided - above and beyond. Fortunately my phone is of the fruit based variety so the PCCM will fit the bill perfectly. I’ve emailed my local Porsche Centre and asked them to confirm availability and when they can make the change. Thanks again.
@@malcolmjohnson4249 My pleasure, and good work on the fruity phone!
Hello ! A little problem for me ... it is just the loss of the outside temperature that was no longer foreseen on the new PCCM !!! therefore more outside temperature and it cannot be transposed to the dashboard either ... does anyone have a solution? otherwise superb product and at the top !
Great review Lee! Thanks as always. Does the newer head unit improve the sound quality at all when listening to music over the old PCM1? 👂 Is it crisper or louder or have more bass?
Thanks for the kind words as always. No great change to the sound, if anything it's made me want to upgrade the sound system!
@@9WERKSTV As someone with the basic sound system in my 996 I eagerly await the video from this job (if you go ahead with it). From speaking to some installers, everything bar the door speakers is simple enough to replace (space constraints in the doors requires some creative solutions to keep the grilles stock). Also worth considering some judicious sound proofing panels installed on wheel arches and doors.... if you can live with the marginal additional weight.
@@conorhughes4910 Great shout with the sound proofing, I think that's going to be the way forward for me eventually.
My Porsche dealership has just got a few in to play with - they’ve told me it should fit the 997 Gen 1 and Gen 2’s aswell so I await that confirmation
In fact the dealership confirmed it’s only on 996’s.
can you still use the CD changer?
How is music sound quality? I read a review someone said there was static issues?
With the 996 and the 986 Boxster coming out at the same time will this unit fit in the 986 Boxster
Will an Apple Itouch work through the bluetooth? Phone needs to be wired in, not bluetooth? Thanks
Is it possible to use the microphone in the instrument cluster on the 996 with the PCCM Plus?
Pretty sure you could use a CARPLAY2air for Apple Carplay and AAWireless for Android Auto to make the connection wireless! I use the AAWireless adapter in my 18 F150 and it works flawlessly.
Thanks for the excellent review, seriously considering the PCCM Plus for my 996.
Great review! Any suggestions on where to source replacement speakers? I have a 996tt Bose, quite challenging to find due to unique wiring/voltage.
Try eton speakers for the dash. Sound brilliant!
There is one thing that really frustrates me and I just can't find the answer so if anyone knows, please help! The sound for the android auto and built in navigation is really quiet and it seems to be related to the sound of the music as in, you can't turn the volume for the nav up without turning up the volume of the music. I have to have the music on full blast to hear the nav. I have been in the settings you can change certain things to volume -5 or +5 and have put everything to -5 except the input for the phone and that hasn't really changed anything. Is there anything I can do as sometimes if I'm on an early Sunday morning drive to a car show or something, I don't want the music on full blast to be able to hear the navigation prompts.
Do the buttons across the bottom of your unit light up at all?
Do you recall if this is a plug and play unit? another words, did Porsche need to cut wires to install this unit or does the OEM plug connect into the back?
Anyone know if these work for 986 (2004)? Most of what I have seen so far says yes...
Do they make a unit to upgrade the 991.1 to apple car play?
For car play it has to be plugged in, but can you Bluetooth a phone call without being plugged in ?
can you install this on a 996 that has a single din system?
Great review - I'd love to see something available for the 987.2 that retains compatibility with sport chrono for mapping a track lap on a blank screen and allowing lap times to be saved and compared against a chosen baseline lap from your own saved timings. I'd love my PCM3 to be usable again! I'm glad you did this and glad that there is an OEM option that exits - but £2.2k people!!!!!! £2,200 of your hard earned for this device ? Granted it includes OPC fitting (if I understood correctly) at 3.5 hours which is worth approx £600 inc vat, but it is way too expensive. I'd use my PCGB discount, fit it myself and probably manage to get the price nearer to £1,450 which is still too much. The dash mounted aerial thing could surely be secured directly under the dash top whilst the guts are out on the passenger side floor (retro fit on older Golf models would see it mounted on the steel brace immediately under the dash top without detriment to performance of the Nav). I'd also mount the ports elsewhere so that they are hidden. It's a lot of cash for some knobs and a bit of Porsche script in my eyes. There is no doubting that it looks right, fits well and does the job, but I still can't get over the cost. £800 + fitting was my guestimate at the start of the video and at that price they'd have a queue rivalling that of a COVID test centre. Great video as always chap - keep 'em coming.
Thanks indeed for the kind words Andrew, interesting insight too from yourself.
As I remember, Porsche preston quoted me about £1350 ish supply only. This will not be a difficult fit.
@@9WERKSTV do the oem sport Chrono functionality as well as the factory pcm gateway options still function with this porsche pccm?
That cassette player though! 😂
Ah no another thing you've made me add to my 911 wish list. In all honesty will this outlay really be recouped in resale value, probably not the entire amount but it makes it more desirable if you spend a lot of time in your 911
Hey, Great review!
Had the PCCM Plus fitted to my 986 Boxster 1999 by Porsche Swindon today and really happy with the unit but having trouble with people being able to hear me on my end in the car. Seems like the microphone isn't working or connected. Any help or ideas why would be appreciated.
Keep up the good work.
I have always found my 986 to be very loud for calls and I don't have an aftermarket exhaust.
Nice vid, thank! I have a few question as I must decide tommorow to buy it or not:
- if CD will still work with it?
- if you can use old GPS antenna and not the new external one?
- is it possible to hide the microphone in the place where it was mounted in the past?
My pleasure! You can't use CD changer I'm afraid. Not sure on old GPS antenna, will find out, same for the mic placement.
@@9WERKSTV so it looks like this:
- CD changer doesnt work - there is no option to have it functioning
- old GPS antenna can be used, that is great
- microphone does not fit original place (so you must put it on the steering wheel column housing)
Is a backup camera possible with this unit? Thanks
Does anyone know if the new unit will support a reverse camera?
Love the review. Do you know if a reverse camera can be fitted?
Thanks, though I'm not sure if a reverse camera can be fitted - it's a great question!
Do you have to have your iPhone plugged into the aux slot to use CarPlay or does it connect via bluetooth? Sorry might be a stupid question!!
Neither - it's USB for Carplay
Nice UPDATE 996 !!!
I had a Macan loaner when my 4S was being serviced for about two weeks and the one thing I missed about that car was the infotainment system and the apple car play. This new system for the 996 is pretty much the same as the one i had in the 2019 macan. I hear a lot of people saying why pay the premium when there are aftermarket options that are cheaper. In my opinion the aftermarket units just look so cheap no matter which brand you get. The graphics are horrible and the cheap plastics just look terrible to me when mounted in the console. This is why I never upgraded to any of those units. I think this system makes perfect sense no matter how much money it cost. It stays true to the interior design and looks great with the porsche functionality.
Bang on!
Yes, and from what I know it's a hard install on 996. I'm going with this. This is a get what you pay for situation. Time to pay up.
I have apple car play via a pioneer in my c2 , interested in a comparison?
? Is this an option for the earliest, most base 996.1 with just basic stereo, cable throttle, cabled front trunk and rear engine cover? I’d like to know as if it’s not I’ll do the center console delete and enjoy the leg room.
It is indeed, as my 996.1 is cable throttle.
What’s the cost for the pcmm + completely installed as you have? Looks really interesting for a Porsche 996 wannabe
Can you add rear view cameras to this unit?
Good video, totally agree with you, brilliant unit, fitted one myself a few months back to my 4S, very easy install, few different things to your set up though, put the media box out of the way in the glove compartment, GPS antenna hidden under the alarm light cover on top of the dash and centralised the microphone on the steering column, also had the OBC enabled to show next turn on the instrument binnacle when using built in nav.
How did you get the OBC display to show the turn indicator? that sounds like a good thing to have :) I've also got a 4S and considering this upgrade
Phil, it only works with the built in Nav on the unit, not through any App’s you might use, after fitting the unit it’s a simple matter of enabling it via the OBD system.
@@Vivt99 WOW!!!! Thanks for the mega fast reply Viv!!!!! Cheers!!
No problem, if you already have any form of PCM system fitted that option should already be enabled.
You've done it right by the sounds of it! Unfortunately Gen1 cars don't have a glove box, otherwise it's a great place to mount that box. Very glad you're happy with the unit, and thanks for the kind words on the review.
Hey mate, I'm also local to Bournemouth (Wimborne). I have a Gen 1 997 4s. Do you think they will release a PCCM system for the 997 anytime soon or shall I upgrade to the non-oem touchscreens you can get.
Great to catch a local! Yes PCCM+ is coming to 997 early 2023 I believe.
Amazing timing on this video! I’ve spent the day trying to figure out how to get the two (aftermarket) iPod plugs in the glove box of my brand new (to me) 996 C4S! No luck in getting the sound through those plugs as there isn’t an Aux input setting on the radio. So just started looking at the PCCM+ literally an hour ago 😄
Great timing, Klaus!
Could the usb / aux box be put into the glovebox? ... and can An IPod still be used?
Thanks
I've put mine in the glovebox (LHD car). I used the hole for the glovebox lightning, dont have any other and dont want to drill.
I have a center delete .....can I still get a PCM Plus?
Can this work in Porsche 996 gt3, MY 2000 ?
Dump that rubber shift knob and get a Function-First. Added a nice leather boot for about 25, swapped out the shifter for a new one from a 997 and utterly changed the experience.
Do they do this for the 997 ?
woofer also work ?
omg that phone is so rad
Hi pal, guess what i picked up today? 996 turbo...guess why i am searching this video 😂😂😂 my other 996 is now up for dale 👍
Is there an equalizer?
Good presentation, nice product too, will it fit in a 991.1 🤔
There is actually a CarPlay upgrade you can do for 991.1, not through Porsche though. Give it a Google.
Does this not support wireless carplay ? my kenwood does - also may want to remind people to make sure they know their radio and nav codes in case they want to put back sometime :)
No to wireless CarPlay. Good shout on the nav codes, I would hope owners have this info anyway for whenever they disconnect the battery etc.
I wish instead of words for the buttons they stuck with the picture labels the rest of the buttons in the car use.
Any idea if the single din unit they market for the 993 can be made to work in the 996?
That's a great shout on the logos to be honest! And no idea if 1DIN option is viable for the 996, I'll find out.
@@9WERKSTV Finding out is really working for the views. Just for that, subscribed.
@@TheRacerRich From Porsche Classic this morning: "The single DIN PCCM unit will fit into the 996 centre console and give you Apple Carplay functionality and DAB+. Unfortunately Google Andorid Auto is only available on the Double DIN PCCM+ unit so that’s worth considering depending on what phone you have."
How much did it cost altogether?
Any more update on whether the Trip tab is going to be available in so future update / model upgrade? It’s the only thing which is putting me off getting one for my C4S.
It's a good question, Richard. I'll find out.
From Porsche this morning: "At this time I'm unsure but can give that feedback to the guys at Porsche Classic for consideration for future updates and developments."
That Nine Eleven Guy Thanks for the update 👍🏻
£2.2k is very expensive if you choose to go down the full OPC supply & fit route. It can be done much cheaper. I purchased (with discount) from OPC & used a non OPC pro audio fitter to fit..I would argue that if you can find a good one they are better than the OPC guys who don't in reality do much audio work. My guy is a Boxster owner & PCGB member so knows his Porsches. All in, mine cost me £1.6k incl the maps SD card & the extra Bose cable to 'deamp' the signal into the Bose amp.
I would rather spend £600 difference on box fresh with warranty, easily get that back on resale
I'd love to hear from anyone who's fitted this unit to a Cab?
Whilst there's a lot of functionality I don't currently have I could imagine fun in seeing which would be of benefit. Touch screen sat nav and phone will be a mahoosive improvement over wedging a Samsung note 8 somewhere in line of sight. Here's a significant issue though - screen visibility in a top-down environment. Hmmm! Anyone?
Lee, that ‘thing’ on the dash, is that the antenna/aerial ? And is all that you have or does it still use the aerial in windscreen?
That’s the GPS antenna, I managed to it get tucked out of the way under the alarm light cover on the top of the dash, the antenna in the windscreen is used for the tuner, the original FM/AM signal amplifier needs to be removed, it then gets put through a splitter and amplifier supplied with the unit to enable DAB.
@@Vivt99 cheers. I have a DAB set up currently that has an antenna stuck to the windscreen. Looks like this is much better solution...and as my current set up has gone wrong...time to upgrade 😀
So 911 drivers can punch above their weight
Laura sounds adorable 😍
Great review money well spent 🙏
Ahahaha! Hands off, Iain!
That Nine Eleven Guy I’m only a poor Boxster S driver PLUS I haven’t seen her 😂
So....Mr. That Nine Eleven Guy....Now that Google no longer supports Google Music Play, what music app will allow music to be played from Android phones thru USB on PCCM+ head unit?
Do they do away with the cd changer and amp if fitted?
CD changer isn't compatible I'm afraid, Duncan. Not sure on the amp, will try find out.
Waiting for the 997.2 version...
Question, is this a Chinese made Android system? I cannot find any information about where it is made. Thank you