Gimli, meets Legolas: "I hate you. Let's be bff's." Gimli, meets Eomer: "I hate you. Let's be bff's." Gimli was the ultimate bro, becoming the best friends with the two people he hated most at first meeting them. It's hilarious and endearing.
That shows that even the most brash & abraisive personality has a measure of endearment within them. Often times I find myself a mix of Peregrin "Pippin" Took & Gimli, son of Gloin when observing the key characters in the tale.
Aragorn’s upbringing made him more humble. Makes sense he would see Pippin calling him Strider as endearing and not take offense. This also made him a great King in my mind.
The name Strider reminded him of the last friends he made before the blade that was broken was reforged and he therefore more officially became the heir of Isildur actively seeking to reclaim that throne. He meets the Hobbits and convinces them (minus Sam, who would hold out until Aragorn saves Frodo in the wild a bunch of times) to trust him entirely as himself, not as the lost king of Gondor and Arnor. Halfway into that introduction Gandalf’s letter that says “btw if you meet my friend Strider trust him” arrives, but I think Aragorn was super touched that they liked him despite his looks (their first impression was that he was a highwayman who was going to steal all their money, and probably kill them after realizing they didn’t have that much). He says right then he sometimes wishes he could win friendship for his own sake and not worry about being hunted or looking distrustful. So the fact that Pippin is still referring to him as his friend Strider in Minas Tirith calls back to that. It’s a reminder that he has friends. He couldn’t have more transparently been touched by the gesture than if he’d named himself Elessar Hobbit-friend
I don't feel like its being humble but the opposite. He is extremely proud of his strider days and what he did then. He also knows they call him strider because they dont see him any different then they did when he helped them to Rivendell.
You must be talking about movie Aragorn. A lot of people that watch the movies and then read the books think book Aragorn is a bit lofty and mildly arrogant lol.
Legolas and Gimli sailing west together always touches my heart to almost tears. It’s so beautiful. I’ve read the trilogy each year since I was sixteen, and reading the fates of the fellowship always pulls at my heart. It feels like saying goodbye to your dearest friends.
The chapter Many Partings is always so sad to me knowing that some of them will never see eachother again. And of course the final chapter is so sad too. 😔
If only J.R.R Tolkien had the years of a Dúnedain and were able to further the tales of Middle Earth and its myriad of inhabitants. I very much enjoy this channel!
Aragorn chased Pippen across half the length of Middle earth, and was amazed and happy to find him alive. Makes complete sense to me, knowing the characters, that Aragorn would be not just tolerant but pleased that Pippen still called him by the name he first knew Aragorn..Strider.
I remember reading that last line about Arwen's passing the first time.. it was not only that peculiar feeling of finishing a book and longing for more... but way more bittersweet. I still have goosebumps
It's nice to think that Gimli finally got to see Galadriel again too. It makes you wonder if maybe she had a hand in getting him permission to enter Valinor as the only dwarf ever to be allowed in.
Pretty hard to imagine considering that Galadriel exiled herself from Valinor after following Feanor's rebellion against the Valar and though she didn't partake in the kinslaying she didn't turn back either and continued to follow Feanor to middle earth and begin the first age. It is said that the only reason Galadriel was even allowed to sail back west to begin with was because she passed Frodo's test by refusing the One Ring and her contribution to Sauron's demise. So to say she had any further influence with the Valar concerning Gimli seems like a stretch.
The last few minutes of this video make me less afraid of dying, or of other loved ones dying some day. I've been terrified since I met my wife of losing people in my life, or of them losing me. I lost my 93yo grandmother last year, and I just recently processed that a bit more. Thank you. The idea that Tolkien came up with of just... deciding to give up living (peacefully, as Eru envisioned before Morgoth corrupted death) is honestly one of the most beautiful and important things I've ever seen expressed. I don't have words for exactly how I'm feeling, but I'm (bit of a joke here) eternally grateful.
you are placing your 'hope' in a fairy tale....there is a much better answer to the fear of death...and it's real. The tale of the God of all creation who did not abandon the people he created after they turned against Him.....but rather left His Glory above all that He created, to became one of His lowly creations. He submitted Himself to life as a mortal, with all the humble/humiliating realities which that entails.....so that He could represent His fallen, corrupted creations and take upon Himself the Righteous Holy Wrath of of Holy Perfectly Just God, the punishment that a Just and Holy God MUST meet to wickedness. Though He was without sin, He willingly took God's rightful wrath against man's wickedness upon Himself so that justice would be paid and wicked man could be forgiven and delivered. What a far more beautiful tale....and it's true. That all who look upon the Son and trust in Him can enter into eternal life because the debt for their iniquities and wickedness has been paid by the God who created them. "GLORIOUS" !! The greatest story ever told is in the greatest book ever written....is the Bible ! you should read it some time...it's awesome ! Start in the Gospel of John and find the True answer to your fears of death ! ❤
Great point about the men of the east... not being irrevocably ‘evil’ just because they followed Sauron. It’s a good reminder that Sauron was a schemer and had probably just picked at their proverbial old wounds.
The men of the east worshipped him, so the Easterlings were fanatically loyal to him even after his fall, leading Aragorn and Eomer to have to fight them again. The Haradrim on the other hand hate Gondor as a rival empire, so when Sauron falls they no longer have to fight Gondor and make peace instead. They are not as fanatic as Easterlings
@@SantomPh the real reason behind the hate the men of Harad had for the kingdom of Gondor goes all the way back to the fall of numenor and before with them having been ruled over by those loyal to the king that destroyed the once great human kingdom
The tales of Legolas and Gimli, and to a lesser extent, the death of Arwen, always move me... and narrated by you, brought me to tears 🥲 Tolkien's world is a bittersweet one, of loss, endings, passage of time, acceptance and trust... very emotional... may we all try to bring the best to our world in our living, and trust that things are bright also when we're dead, whatever this looks like, if it even looks like anything
I’ve always found it interesting how Tolkien didn’t just end his story with Sauron being defeated, Aragorn getting crowned & married, but instead goes in detail about what comes after. He actually shows that life was drastically improved for most of middle earth following Sauron’s downfall instead of just letting you assume that everything is fine
Tolkien actually continued the story and had plans for a new villain for the fourth age, an evil man this time rather than an Ainur, as befitting the fourth age being the age of men. Unfortunately Tolkien didn't have enough time on this earth to finish this tale.
The tombs/caskets of BOTH Meriadoc Brandybuck & Peregrin Took either side of King Aragorn's "got me in the feels". The mutual respect & dedicated friendship between the king & his closest "little friends"🙏 Brings me right back to Gandalf's many statements about "NEVER underestimating Hobbits"🤔
Great video. The only thing that was missed, was how Gimi set his gift of Galadriel hair strands in crystal as a pledge of good will between the dwarves of the mountain and the elves of the wood.
@@SantomPh - It would have been redundant. Once declared, only death could have stopped Gimli from following through on his pledge and we know that he lived.
I like how Tolkein's world makes you feel like it could actually be a real place in time. I mean Sauron, Balrogs, and dragons would be a little hard to accept once I got there.
Can’t remember if it’s in the books but in the movies he Aragorn says “my friends, you bow to no one.” Given that context it really makes sense that he wouldn’t be offended and likely would be happy to be called Strider as a friend calls him besides once you wield power and authority the only real friends you can have would be of those who were friends before you wielded it
At the Field of Cormallen, before his entry into Minas Tirith and coronation and after Sam and Frodo wake from their long sleep, Aragorn takes those two and sets them in his high seat and instructs all the attendants to praise them while he himself kneels to them. This was clearly Jackson's inspiration for the "you bow to no one" scene.
Wow! That was a fun ride you took us on! So much happened after Aragorn was crowned king. I wish I could visit the garden that Legolas made for Faramir and Eowen or maybe visit Gimli in his Glittering Caves or see the restored city of Minas Tirith.❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@tolkienuntangled Do you know what happened to Osgiliath? I suppose it was eventually rebuilt because it had docks for ships to import and export goods for Minas Tirith too.
@@danielcuevas3025 Actually, no. Numenor sank and everything on it was lost forever. Only the Faithful preserved the knowledge and skills of that great empire.
Beautiful ending, and its very beautiful presentation.... I watched it at night, and i was sleepy... But the 27 minutes of the film make me fully awake and can feel like i was at middleearth watching the ending... thank you so much for the story :)
Awesome video!! I will never forget finishing the LOTR. It’s the one and only book that ever made me tear up. Even though the ending is relatively happy there is a hint of sorrow that makes the world feel like our own.
I like how you mention in your videos the even greater works Tolkiens races achieve when they work together - nice little extra meta-insight that our differences can build greater achievement if we don’t let them cause strife
12:50 You say you believe that Gimli was ready to fight Eomer after he said Galadriel was not the most beautiful he had ever seen, and I believe in the book it's even more funny! "Alas!" said Eomer. "I will not say that she is the fairest lady that lives." "Then I must go for my axe," said Gimli. 😆😆
I like to imagine Gimli arriving in Valinor and being able to actually meet the creator of his fathers Aule. How incredible that meeting must have been! I'm not sure if Aule ever made direct contact with the Dwarves after they awoke under the mountains.
This was a truly masterful rendition of facts and hints scattered throughout Professor Tokien's voluminous writings. I thank you very kindly from the piedmont of Georgia, USA.
Loved this history of the fourth age! It tied up all loose ends so to speak, and gave a great account of the main characters. Arwen's end is truly sad, her sacrifice culminated in her passing into eternity.
Love your video series! I did notice something you mentioned in this video, about Aragorn’s passing in the year 210 FA. I think it was actually 120 FA, and Aragorn's being 210 when he gave up his life.
Interestingly, Tolkien, for all the "happy endings" that are assigned to him and his writing, never REALLY gives anyone one. Maybe it is because he's not afraid to tell us that every one dies (or goes west) and leaves behind the lands east of the undying land.
@@Prometheus7272 In a way, yes. However when we think we a 'happy ending' we think of the classic: 'and they lived happily ever after', whereas all of Tolkien's endings either end in death or sailing to the undying lands. Don't get me wrong, I agree with you that some of these, those that come naturally of old age rather than those from combat, slaughter or disease, are indeed happy. It boils back to Tolkien's concept of mortality itself being 'the gift of men' which brings this point full circle as typically it is immortality rather than mortality that is sought after and occasionally given as a gift.
I've have taken the dive through the videos you have put out. I am so surprised you do not have more subs! Keep on dropping videos and the algorithm will start showing you some love....
Another triumphant and deeply poignant summary. Bravo, sir! I think there's a very short sentence or two somewhere in the Appendices which references Celeborn eventually taking ship (presumably to Valinor) "and with him went the last memory of the Elder Days in Middle Earth," Celeborn of course having been alive during the First Age of Sun. He seems to have remained in Middle Earth long years after Galadriel's departure. And what of Elrohir and Elladan, Arwen's brothers? Tolkien gives us no clue as to whether they also traveled to the Undying Lands. As ever, Tolkien leaves us whistfully inconclusive fragments for speculation. His writings are a still-open organic volume.
I really love this channel and want to thank you very much for your wonderful content. I only discovered your work as a result of the Hobbit day playlist and and so happy I did. Really, truly my favorite TH-cam content.
These two "ending" videos made me cry so hard. Really, really, really nice videos. I am binging your content over the last week and have to say... Thank you! Thank you so much for this work of yours. Amazing job! (:
Thank you so much for your video! I enjoyed listening to you tell the tale of the Fellowship. The video is extremely beautiful as well. Now I can impress my friends with even more information about this wonderful book. Bless you and everyone involved for sharing!!
I loved the Gimli/Eomer conversation about Galadriel and Arwen. Eomer respectfully (paraphrase) says, "look homie, I know you're all about backing up Galadriel, and if you still want to fight about it, no hard feelings but we can still do this". And I don't remember if Eomer continues to say this, or if Gimli says this but the next part is comparing Galadriel to the day, and Arwen to the night, and Gimli loves the day, and Eomer the night. In the movie the coronation and wedding is on the same day, so in my head it's not even more funny because they're saying having a debate on whose more beautiful, our friend's now wife, or her grandma.
Your videos are helping me through a difficult time. You are unique in your approach, tempering lore with entertainment, reverence with fun. Thank you Dave 🌈
This is a truly excellent video. I grew up seeing the movies and this gave me a sense of closure that I didn’t know I needed. Thank you. I feel a brand new connection to the world of LoTR.
Hey! I don't know what you do professionally but you are a true storyteller! A hard of this age! Thank you for this wonderful series of journeys you've taken me on with each of your videos! Much love from India 🤗🤗🤗
Thankyou for pulling all the threads together and letting us know how it all ends. I read the book so long ago. We have come to know and also love each character, and to know their journey and ending is very fulfilling. I would like to think that Arwen went back to her own people even if she died alone in Lothlorien. Her spirit would still persist, but in a different realm. Hopefully joining Aragorn.
An absolutely wonderful video....so much I did not know.....The death of Arwen is so completely sad.....as all lives must be in the end....when we lose those we have loved.... Perhaps her Elven presence remains in the forests of Middle Earth, in the mosses and stones...
I am now a new subscriber. Your channel is brilliant! You are deserving of as much social media “currency” as possible and I will gladly stick around myself to watch and like all of your videos. Well done!
@@tolkienuntangled it’s BRILLIANT…please keep up the good work! I really enjoy your thoughts and insights. You are definitely TOLKIEN Level Bada$$ when it comes to Middle Earth!
There is so much to Tolkien that you can't put all in videos. It's a massive piece of work that many can't comprehend. He created a beautiful world and many languages. He was a genius. I never tire of reading any of his works. The films were good... but they will never do his books justice.
Check out Phil Dragash's unabridged soundscape reading of TLOTR. It brings a fantastic aurally immersive dimension to this timeless work - almost better than the film in my opnion.
I just discovered your channel and am binge watching. Tolkien's works, in my opinion, are the single greatest in Western history, and your retelling is fine work on its own. As a young pre-teen and teenager, I had a very difficult life filled with violence, fear, and sorrow, and these books were my refuge as I read them over and over. Thank you for this.
As a suicidal teen, LOTR kept me alive. I first read it around 1967.i have lost count of how many times I've read the books. When life gets hard, I find myself living in Middle Earth.
I have a few questions that keep bugging me. Maybe you know the answers. 1. What did Aragorn mean when he warned Gendalf about Moria? Even Gendalf didn't expect Barlog to kill him. 2. What does it really mean to choose between life of an elf and that of a mortal? How does it even work? Especially with Arwen. Being immortal is a trait of the species, not inheritance one has to renounce because of marriage 3. Who is more powerful, Gendalf or Galadriel? Should be Gandalf, he is Maiar unless I got the hierarchy wrong. 4. What would have happend had Frodo kept the ring (Gorlum didn't get there on time or if Sam had killed him)?
Good questions. 1. We know that Aragorn has been through Moria before, and he knows that it's an evil place that he doesn't want to return to. I don't think he knows the specifics of the balrog, but he knows there's a nameless terror there, and it's no place for the ring bearer. 2. The most important part of understanding this is to realise that Arwen, Elrond, and his brother Elros are all a special type of half-elf (Peredhil is the word Tolkien uses.) Elrond and Elros' mother was the granddaughter of Beren and Luthien who were the original elf/man couple, and their father was a guy called Earendil who was the son of the other elf/man couple in the First Age. So this family line is given the choice to live as elves, or to choose a mortal life. It's not something all elves can do though, so if Legolas fell in love with Eowyn he wouldn't be able to choose mortality. Hypothetically Arwen's brothers could make this choice though. Although once someone chooses a mortal life - as Elros' and Arwen did - their children would then then be mortals, and wouldn't have any capacity to choose an immortal life. 3. Power levels are very difficult to quantify in Tolkien's world, although you're right that a typical Maia would be above a typical elf. Once upon a time there was a Maia called Olorin, but he was then bound in a body of flesh and blood, and he lost much of his memories, knowledge, and powers. This diminished Maia is the being Gandalf, and I guess it's really a question of philosophy whether Gandalf and Olorin are the same being. Galadriel on the other hand is a very ancient elf of the West with a great lineage, but she is just an elf. So against Gandalf the White, I'd say Gandalf the White is definitely more powerful, but against Gandalf the Grey, I'm not sure. I guess it depends how much he limits himself. 4. Any number of things could happen in the short term, Frodo might even be able to use the ring to overcome Sauron and rule for a while as mini dark lord. But in the long term, as long as the ring exists Sauron will also exist, and I don't see any version of events where the ring wouldn't eventually return to Sauron's possession.
@@tolkienuntangled agreed, good sir! One of the best ways I found to get these answers is to basically wade through The Silmarillion carefully & catch all of Prof. Tolkien's details & tidbits of the lore.
When it comes to Tolkien's writings, your depth of understanding is truly remarkable. I wonder if the Moria caves got cleansed of all evil residing there and if the dwarves managed to return it to its former glory; do you know?
I re-read these chapter this week, so bittersweet. The ending with Arwen is sad:( But memorable and I like that Tolkien gave each of the members a final thought.
That part in the book where Tolkien describes him spending a last few moments or is it hours talking with Arwen before he sets off back to Rivendell brings tears to my eyes... as do a number of other deeply poignant 'endings' of Tolkien.
Aragorn willingly gives his own life after over a century of kingship and dies, Legolas and Gimli after traveling far and wide together depart from Middle Earth after Legolas builds a ship, still disputed whether Gimli lives an immortal life or dies shortly after arriving in Valinor
I felt so happy when I heard that Aragorn was very nice to the hobbits. And whenever he was in the north kingdom the hobbits were glad. The independent and protected little enclave within the kingdom of Arnor.
presumably by not drinking water. You’ll be dead within four days if you don’t drink. Sooner if you cry a lot. It definitely shows how committed she was. Death by dehydration is not pleasant: and intentionally dehydrating yourself to the point of death takes effort. But having just lost her spouse, and being over 3,000 years old: it’s not a surprise she was very done with life.
I know this video is two months old at this point, but from the description of "overlapping brazen, plates" and looking at the artwork when you said it, that just sounds / looks like scale armour of which the individual scales are referred to as plates. Something that has been around since the 4th century, if not longer. So rather than being the pinnacle of armour in Middle-Earth, it would be older and simpler than the early middle-ages armour Tolkien drew inspiration from for the likes of Gondor and Rohan.
@@tolkienuntangled As much as I loathe putting words into Tolkien's mouth, scale mail is what I assume he meant. It would fit the general time period Tolkien drew inspiration from and was widely used by the historical cultures the Haradrim might have been loosely based on. That, and I think it a bit unlikely the Haradrim, a largely desert dwelling folk, would have armour more advanced than what is generally used by both dwarves, elves and the Númenóreans.
Arwen’s death always bugged me. I appreciate that her death brings the old tales to a close but as a female reader it just bothered me. Maybe because I read it around the same time the Star Wars prequels were finishing too…it seemed like once their man is gone, these women just die. Arwen had multiple children and presumably grandchildren-wouldn’t she want to guide her family in the wake of Aragorn’s death? I never got it but it is lovely writing.
As a mother I completely concur. I love my husband, but I love my children more. It doesn't matter how old I am I would never leave my kids side voluntarily.
well, Arwen's love for Aragorn was just too great that when he died and no more, Arwen couldn't take it well..so she died brokenhearted. It was because of Aragorn that Arwen stayed in the middle Earth..the reason why she chose a mortal life, and now that he is gone, Arwen saw no reason why she needs to stay alive. I can say that Arwen is truly head over heels madly in love with her husband. That how it was for Arwen. Aragorn is everything for her. She sacrificed her immortal life, her father and her people just to be with Him. Without Aragorn, life is nothing..its bleak and no happiness. I can understand her very well. Maybe its the same way for me if i truly very in love with my husband/man. As long as my children are old enough, doing well on their own, I think I wanted to followed my husband right away LOL, because the pain of loosing Him is just too much. It's the same for Arwen..so yeah i know her feelings well.
@@rachaelerin1it's not like they were childs come on, they were all grown ass men and women, they were all probably married and with families and a king so what gives let her pursue her eternal happiness, her motherly work had already been fulfilled
Not faulting your tale, it was beautiful. You may have have embellished the tale of Gimli going into the furthest West by quoting the book where it spoke of the friendship of Legolas and Gimli being the greatest ever between Elf and Dwarf and that Legolas took Gimli which you spoke of so eloquently, but you forgot to add some version of Galadriel's part in the last paragraph in the Appendix dealing with Durin's Folk. "If this is true, then it is strange indeed that a dwarf should be willing to leave Middle-Earth for any love, or that the Eldar should receive him, or that the Lords of the West [the Valar] should permit it. But it is said that Gimli went also out of desire to see again the beauty of Galadriel; and it may be that she, being mighty among the Eldar, obtained this grace for him. More cannot be said of this matter" Grace; means unmerited favor. A matter of love. Idea for a program, in what way were dwarves tied to Middle-Earth and how odd it was that Gimli or any dwarf would wish to leave it.
I am more and more impressed by your series. The way you tell the stories is evocative of the books. 20 minutes fly by & then I can't quit listening. P.S. I'm always telling people rhat it took longer to watch the Battle of Helm's Deep, than it took to read it! May the road rise to meet your feet.
Is it weird that I want to cry. My heart is warmed by such an amazing ending for them all but it feels like childhood friends that have left, never to return 😢 😭
You forgot about Sam’s final journey to the Grey Havens then to the West then reunited with Frodo in Valinor until the end of the their days. Also the passing of the red book 📕 from Sam to his daughter Ellinor.
I can't decide if Tolkien was the last great traditional author or the first great modern author. Either way, his works are beyond beautiful. To me, he is the greatest author.
I assume one of Elessar’s daughters was married to Eomer’s heir as a way to cement the alliance. That’s what princesses are for in monarchies, they’re for forging alliances.
Elboron would be another great choice for one of the King of Gondor’s daughters. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t believe Aragorn or Arwen would force a union between their daughters and the alliances that their father made. They would only accept a union if their princesses actually loved their husbands, but they would probably breathe a sigh of relief when their daughters fell in love with their friends.
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Gimli, meets Legolas: "I hate you. Let's be bff's."
Gimli, meets Eomer: "I hate you. Let's be bff's."
Gimli was the ultimate bro, becoming the best friends with the two people he hated most at first meeting them. It's hilarious and endearing.
I love Gimli.
That shows that even the most brash & abraisive personality has a measure of endearment within them.
Often times I find myself a mix of Peregrin "Pippin" Took & Gimli, son of Gloin when observing the key characters in the tale.
So… I am Gimli. I hated all my friends upon meeting them the first time
I cannot jump the distance .. toss me... but don't tell the elf. ....(not a word)
Friendship through conflict. A tale as old as Gilgamesh and Enkidu. That's us males to a T.
Aragorn’s upbringing made him more humble. Makes sense he would see Pippin calling him Strider as endearing and not take offense. This also made him a great King in my mind.
The name Strider reminded him of the last friends he made before the blade that was broken was reforged and he therefore more officially became the heir of Isildur actively seeking to reclaim that throne.
He meets the Hobbits and convinces them (minus Sam, who would hold out until Aragorn saves Frodo in the wild a bunch of times) to trust him entirely as himself, not as the lost king of Gondor and Arnor.
Halfway into that introduction Gandalf’s letter that says “btw if you meet my friend Strider trust him” arrives, but I think Aragorn was super touched that they liked him despite his looks (their first impression was that he was a highwayman who was going to steal all their money, and probably kill them after realizing they didn’t have that much). He says right then he sometimes wishes he could win friendship for his own sake and not worry about being hunted or looking distrustful.
So the fact that Pippin is still referring to him as his friend Strider in Minas Tirith calls back to that. It’s a reminder that he has friends.
He couldn’t have more transparently been touched by the gesture than if he’d named himself Elessar Hobbit-friend
I don't feel like its being humble but the opposite. He is extremely proud of his strider days and what he did then. He also knows they call him strider because they dont see him any different then they did when he helped them to Rivendell.
@@mike-mz6yz "My friends, You kneel for no one" I think that explains it all
@@bigmike2464 im not saying he isn't humble lol more that him taking the name of strider isn't being humble
You must be talking about movie Aragorn. A lot of people that watch the movies and then read the books think book Aragorn is a bit lofty and mildly arrogant lol.
Legolas and Gimli sailing west together always touches my heart to almost tears. It’s so beautiful. I’ve read the trilogy each year since I was sixteen, and reading the fates of the fellowship always pulls at my heart. It feels like saying goodbye to your dearest friends.
I know exactly what you mean🥺
Dave does such a masterful job at retelling this, I almost cried!
Yes; a powerful and sad contrast to Arwen Evenstar dying alone and forgotten.
The chapter Many Partings is always so sad to me knowing that some of them will never see eachother again. And of course the final chapter is so sad too. 😔
If only J.R.R Tolkien had the years of a Dúnedain and were able to further the tales of Middle Earth and its myriad of inhabitants.
I very much enjoy this channel!
The friendship between Aragorn and Pippin is 100% wholesome. He couldn't fight with a stubborn hobbit so he made it his name 🤣
Aragorn chased Pippen across half the length of Middle earth, and was amazed and happy to find him alive. Makes complete sense to me, knowing the characters, that Aragorn would be not just tolerant but pleased that Pippen still called him by the name he first knew Aragorn..Strider.
Agreed pippin knew him at all3 points of his ascension. As a ranger ,a man of the fellowship, and as a King.
I remember reading that last line about Arwen's passing the first time.. it was not only that peculiar feeling of finishing a book and longing for more... but way more bittersweet. I still have goosebumps
It's nice to think that Gimli finally got to see Galadriel again too. It makes you wonder if maybe she had a hand in getting him permission to enter Valinor as the only dwarf ever to be allowed in.
Pretty hard to imagine considering that Galadriel exiled herself from Valinor after following Feanor's rebellion against the Valar and though she didn't partake in the kinslaying she didn't turn back either and continued to follow Feanor to middle earth and begin the first age. It is said that the only reason Galadriel was even allowed to sail back west to begin with was because she passed Frodo's test by refusing the One Ring and her contribution to Sauron's demise. So to say she had any further influence with the Valar concerning Gimli seems like a stretch.
The last few minutes of this video make me less afraid of dying, or of other loved ones dying some day. I've been terrified since I met my wife of losing people in my life, or of them losing me. I lost my 93yo grandmother last year, and I just recently processed that a bit more.
Thank you. The idea that Tolkien came up with of just... deciding to give up living (peacefully, as Eru envisioned before Morgoth corrupted death) is honestly one of the most beautiful and important things I've ever seen expressed. I don't have words for exactly how I'm feeling, but I'm (bit of a joke here) eternally grateful.
you are placing your 'hope' in a fairy tale....there is a much better answer to the fear of death...and it's real. The tale of the God of all creation who did not abandon the people he created after they turned against Him.....but rather left His Glory above all that He created, to became one of His lowly creations. He submitted Himself to life as a mortal, with all the humble/humiliating realities which that entails.....so that He could represent His fallen, corrupted creations and take upon Himself the Righteous Holy Wrath of of Holy Perfectly Just God, the punishment that a Just and Holy God MUST meet to wickedness. Though He was without sin, He willingly took God's rightful wrath against man's wickedness upon Himself so that justice would be paid and wicked man could be forgiven and delivered. What a far more beautiful tale....and it's true. That all who look upon the Son and trust in Him can enter into eternal life because the debt for their iniquities and wickedness has been paid by the God who created them. "GLORIOUS" !! The greatest story ever told is in the greatest book ever written....is the Bible ! you should read it some time...it's awesome ! Start in the Gospel of John and find the True answer to your fears of death ! ❤
Great point about the men of the east... not being irrevocably ‘evil’ just because they followed Sauron. It’s a good reminder that Sauron was a schemer and had probably just picked at their proverbial old wounds.
they only know what they are told.
The men of the east worshipped him, so the Easterlings were fanatically loyal to him even after his fall, leading Aragorn and Eomer to have to fight them again.
The Haradrim on the other hand hate Gondor as a rival empire, so when Sauron falls they no longer have to fight Gondor and make peace instead. They are not as fanatic as Easterlings
@@SantomPh the real reason behind the hate the men of Harad had for the kingdom of Gondor goes all the way back to the fall of numenor and before with them having been ruled over by those loyal to the king that destroyed the once great human kingdom
The tales of Legolas and Gimli, and to a lesser extent, the death of Arwen, always move me... and narrated by you, brought me to tears 🥲 Tolkien's world is a bittersweet one, of loss, endings, passage of time, acceptance and trust... very emotional... may we all try to bring the best to our world in our living, and trust that things are bright also when we're dead, whatever this looks like, if it even looks like anything
Man! That last bit about Arwyn had me close to tears.
I’ve always found it interesting how Tolkien didn’t just end his story with Sauron being defeated, Aragorn getting crowned & married, but instead goes in detail about what comes after.
He actually shows that life was drastically improved for most of middle earth following Sauron’s downfall instead of just letting you assume that everything is fine
Tolkien actually continued the story and had plans for a new villain for the fourth age, an evil man this time rather than an Ainur, as befitting the fourth age being the age of men. Unfortunately Tolkien didn't have enough time on this earth to finish this tale.
The tombs/caskets of BOTH Meriadoc Brandybuck & Peregrin Took either side of King Aragorn's "got me in the feels".
The mutual respect & dedicated friendship between the king & his closest "little friends"🙏
Brings me right back to Gandalf's many statements about "NEVER underestimating Hobbits"🤔
Great video. The only thing that was missed, was how Gimi set his gift of Galadriel hair strands in crystal as a pledge of good will between the dwarves of the mountain and the elves of the wood.
He said he would, but the Appendices did not mention him doing it
@@SantomPh - It would have been redundant. Once declared, only death could have stopped Gimli from following through on his pledge and we know that he lived.
I like how Tolkein's world makes you feel like it could actually be a real place in time. I mean Sauron, Balrogs, and dragons would be a little hard to accept once I got there.
Can’t remember if it’s in the books but in the movies he Aragorn says “my friends, you bow to no one.” Given that context it really makes sense that he wouldn’t be offended and likely would be happy to be called Strider as a friend calls him besides once you wield power and authority the only real friends you can have would be of those who were friends before you wielded it
not in the book...based on information from others reader
At the Field of Cormallen, before his entry into Minas Tirith and coronation and after Sam and Frodo wake from their long sleep, Aragorn takes those two and sets them in his high seat and instructs all the attendants to praise them while he himself kneels to them. This was clearly Jackson's inspiration for the "you bow to no one" scene.
Wow! That was a fun ride you took us on! So much happened after Aragorn was crowned king. I wish I could visit the garden that Legolas made for Faramir and Eowen or maybe visit Gimli in his Glittering Caves or see the restored city of Minas Tirith.❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Legolas' garden for Faramir and Eowyn is my favourite detail that I found while working on this video. I'd love to go there!
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Do you know what happened to Osgiliath? I suppose it was eventually rebuilt because it had docks for ships to import and export goods for Minas Tirith too.
Also doesn’t the island on Numeanor resurface and his repopulated?
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Actually, no. Numenor sank and everything on it was lost forever. Only the Faithful preserved the knowledge and skills of that great empire.
I must say, out of all the lore videos from different TH-camrs, yours is the most heartwarming.
Beautiful ending, and its very beautiful presentation.... I watched it at night, and i was sleepy... But the 27 minutes of the film make me fully awake and can feel like i was at middleearth watching the ending... thank you so much for the story :)
Awesome video!! I will never forget finishing the LOTR. It’s the one and only book that ever made me tear up. Even though the ending is relatively happy there is a hint of sorrow that makes the world feel like our own.
i think Sam said it best: i dont know why, but it makes me sad.
I like how you mention in your videos the even greater works Tolkiens races achieve when they work together - nice little extra meta-insight that our differences can build greater achievement if we don’t let them cause strife
12:50 You say you believe that Gimli was ready to fight Eomer after he said Galadriel was not the most beautiful he had ever seen, and I believe in the book it's even more funny!
"Alas!" said Eomer. "I will not say that she is the fairest lady that lives."
"Then I must go for my axe," said Gimli.
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And then when Éomer explains that he thinks Arwen is the fairest, Gimli’s like “….fair enough” and lets it go.
Ending hit me harder than I thought.
Bittersweetly beautiful.
And you're right, it does end with a
Arwen's death.
I like to imagine Gimli arriving in Valinor and being able to actually meet the creator of his fathers Aule. How incredible that meeting must have been! I'm not sure if Aule ever made direct contact with the Dwarves after they awoke under the mountains.
Aule absolutely had met dwarves..
This was a truly masterful rendition of facts and hints scattered throughout Professor Tokien's voluminous writings. I thank you very kindly from the piedmont of Georgia, USA.
Loved this history of the fourth age! It tied up all loose ends so to speak, and gave a great account of the main characters. Arwen's end is truly sad, her sacrifice culminated in her passing into eternity.
Wow. That was really good. Short, simple, with no unnecessary details; yet enough for good and proper context.
I'm so glad the algorithm found you!!! I could listen to you on a podcast for hours dude.
Thanks so much! I'm really glad you found the channel too
Love your video series! I did notice something you mentioned in this video, about Aragorn’s passing in the year 210 FA. I think it was actually 120 FA, and Aragorn's being 210 when he gave up his life.
You're absolutely right! Thanks for the correction 🙂
Came here to clarify that, thanks!
@@tolkienuntangled after all he was 89 or whatever when revealing to Eowyn at Meduseld his Dunedain heritage
Interestingly, Tolkien, for all the "happy endings" that are assigned to him and his writing, never REALLY gives anyone one. Maybe it is because he's not afraid to tell us that every one dies (or goes west) and leaves behind the lands east of the undying land.
I think this is a happy ending
@@Prometheus7272 In a way, yes. However when we think we a 'happy ending' we think of the classic: 'and they lived happily ever after', whereas all of Tolkien's endings either end in death or sailing to the undying lands. Don't get me wrong, I agree with you that some of these, those that come naturally of old age rather than those from combat, slaughter or disease, are indeed happy. It boils back to Tolkien's concept of mortality itself being 'the gift of men' which brings this point full circle as typically it is immortality rather than mortality that is sought after and occasionally given as a gift.
I've have taken the dive through the videos you have put out. I am so surprised you do not have more subs! Keep on dropping videos and the algorithm will start showing you some love....
Arwen's last year and her lonely end in an empty Lothlorien is so ineffably sad.
Another triumphant and deeply poignant summary. Bravo, sir!
I think there's a very short sentence or two somewhere in the Appendices which references Celeborn eventually taking ship (presumably to Valinor) "and with him went the last memory of the Elder Days in Middle Earth," Celeborn of course having been alive during the First Age of Sun. He seems to have remained in Middle Earth long years after Galadriel's departure.
And what of Elrohir and Elladan, Arwen's brothers? Tolkien gives us no clue as to whether they also traveled to the Undying Lands. As ever, Tolkien leaves us whistfully inconclusive fragments for speculation. His writings are a still-open organic volume.
What a great video! The end brought me to tears. Thank you!
I really love this channel and want to thank you very much for your wonderful content. I only discovered your work as a result of the Hobbit day playlist and and so happy I did. Really, truly my favorite TH-cam content.
I also found this channel because of the Hobbit Day video list of contributors.
Thanks so much! I'm really glad you enjoy the channel!
Excellent video! I just started reading the Fellowship. This story is beyond words. Your presentation was great. Thank you.
These two "ending" videos made me cry so hard. Really, really, really nice videos. I am binging your content over the last week and have to say... Thank you! Thank you so much for this work of yours. Amazing job! (:
Thank you so much for your video! I enjoyed listening to you tell the tale of the Fellowship. The video is extremely beautiful as well. Now I can impress my friends with even more information about this wonderful book. Bless you and everyone involved for sharing!!
You’re very welcome!
Thank you again for the incredible work you’ve put into these videos❤ I’ve thoroughly enjoyed going through the playlists.
I loved the Gimli/Eomer conversation about Galadriel and Arwen. Eomer respectfully (paraphrase) says, "look homie, I know you're all about backing up Galadriel, and if you still want to fight about it, no hard feelings but we can still do this". And I don't remember if Eomer continues to say this, or if Gimli says this but the next part is comparing Galadriel to the day, and Arwen to the night, and Gimli loves the day, and Eomer the night. In the movie the coronation and wedding is on the same day, so in my head it's not even more funny because they're saying having a debate on whose more beautiful, our friend's now wife, or her grandma.
Your videos are helping me through a difficult time. You are unique in your approach, tempering lore with entertainment, reverence with fun.
Thank you Dave 🌈
Hope things are better now.
This is a truly excellent video. I grew up seeing the movies and this gave me a sense of closure that I didn’t know I needed. Thank you. I feel a brand new connection to the world of LoTR.
Imagine if they brought back the cast to finish all their characters stories in a series or movie and got it perfectly.
Hey! I don't know what you do professionally but you are a true storyteller! A hard of this age! Thank you for this wonderful series of journeys you've taken me on with each of your videos! Much love from India 🤗🤗🤗
Thanks man! I'm really glad you enjoy the videos!
It was so emotional. Thank you for the video 💗
Wow! You are an outstanding story teller.
Thankyou for pulling all the threads together and letting us know how it all ends. I read the book so long ago. We have come to know and also love each character, and to know their journey and ending is very fulfilling. I would like to think that Arwen went back to her own people even if she died alone in Lothlorien. Her spirit would still persist, but in a different realm. Hopefully joining Aragorn.
Hey I just came from reading a lot of your essays on Reddit. I look forward to watching your videos; hope there’s more on the way!
What a beautiful video, made from a wonderful story. Thank you.
An absolutely wonderful video....so much I did not know.....The death of Arwen is so completely sad.....as all lives must be in the end....when we lose those we have loved.... Perhaps her Elven presence remains in the forests of Middle Earth, in the mosses and stones...
Fun fact, middle earth is supposedly the past, in tolkiens lore, and in actual mythology there’s a faerie named Arwen, so she probably did
you are one of the best Tokien lore video out there that doesn't get many views. It's why I'm connecting to help you along!
Thanks very much! I appreciate it.
I am now a new subscriber. Your channel is brilliant! You are deserving of as much social media “currency” as possible and I will gladly stick around myself to watch and like all of your videos. Well done!
Thanks so much! I'm really glad you enjoy the channel.
@@tolkienuntangled it’s BRILLIANT…please keep up the good work! I really enjoy your thoughts and insights. You are definitely TOLKIEN Level Bada$$ when it comes to Middle Earth!
There is so much to Tolkien that you can't put all in videos. It's a massive piece of work that many can't comprehend. He created a beautiful world and many languages. He was a genius. I never tire of reading any of his works. The films were good... but they will never do his books justice.
Check out Phil Dragash's unabridged soundscape reading of TLOTR. It brings a fantastic aurally immersive dimension to this timeless work - almost better than the film in my opnion.
Outstanding video! Thank you!
I liked, subscribed, and belled. This was fantastic.
I was legit tearing up by the end. Great job.
This was wonderful and I gained a lot of education from it about Tolkien's world. Thank you very much for it.
I just discovered your channel and am binge watching. Tolkien's works, in my opinion, are the single greatest in Western history, and your retelling is fine work on its own. As a young pre-teen and teenager, I had a very difficult life filled with violence, fear, and sorrow, and these books were my refuge as I read them over and over. Thank you for this.
As a suicidal teen, LOTR kept me alive. I first read it around 1967.i have lost count of how many times I've read the books. When life gets hard, I find myself living in Middle Earth.
This was beautiful...and soothing.
I have a few questions that keep bugging me. Maybe you know the answers. 1. What did Aragorn mean when he warned Gendalf about Moria? Even Gendalf didn't expect Barlog to kill him. 2. What does it really mean to choose between life of an elf and that of a mortal? How does it even work? Especially with Arwen. Being immortal is a trait of the species, not inheritance one has to renounce because of marriage 3. Who is more powerful, Gendalf or Galadriel? Should be Gandalf, he is Maiar unless I got the hierarchy wrong. 4. What would have happend had Frodo kept the ring (Gorlum didn't get there on time or if Sam had killed him)?
Good questions.
1. We know that Aragorn has been through Moria before, and he knows that it's an evil place that he doesn't want to return to. I don't think he knows the specifics of the balrog, but he knows there's a nameless terror there, and it's no place for the ring bearer.
2. The most important part of understanding this is to realise that Arwen, Elrond, and his brother Elros are all a special type of half-elf (Peredhil is the word Tolkien uses.) Elrond and Elros' mother was the granddaughter of Beren and Luthien who were the original elf/man couple, and their father was a guy called Earendil who was the son of the other elf/man couple in the First Age. So this family line is given the choice to live as elves, or to choose a mortal life. It's not something all elves can do though, so if Legolas fell in love with Eowyn he wouldn't be able to choose mortality. Hypothetically Arwen's brothers could make this choice though. Although once someone chooses a mortal life - as Elros' and Arwen did - their children would then then be mortals, and wouldn't have any capacity to choose an immortal life.
3. Power levels are very difficult to quantify in Tolkien's world, although you're right that a typical Maia would be above a typical elf. Once upon a time there was a Maia called Olorin, but he was then bound in a body of flesh and blood, and he lost much of his memories, knowledge, and powers. This diminished Maia is the being Gandalf, and I guess it's really a question of philosophy whether Gandalf and Olorin are the same being. Galadriel on the other hand is a very ancient elf of the West with a great lineage, but she is just an elf. So against Gandalf the White, I'd say Gandalf the White is definitely more powerful, but against Gandalf the Grey, I'm not sure. I guess it depends how much he limits himself.
4. Any number of things could happen in the short term, Frodo might even be able to use the ring to overcome Sauron and rule for a while as mini dark lord. But in the long term, as long as the ring exists Sauron will also exist, and I don't see any version of events where the ring wouldn't eventually return to Sauron's possession.
@@tolkienuntangled agreed, good sir!
One of the best ways I found to get these answers is to basically wade through The Silmarillion carefully & catch all of Prof. Tolkien's details & tidbits of the lore.
When it comes to Tolkien's writings, your depth of understanding is truly remarkable. I wonder if the Moria caves got cleansed of all evil residing there and if the dwarves managed to return it to its former glory; do you know?
I re-read these chapter this week, so bittersweet. The ending with Arwen is sad:( But memorable and I like that Tolkien gave each of the members a final thought.
Wonderful video. Thank you.
Beautiful as always. Thank you.
You can understand why Elrond was so hesitant to leave his daughter behind.
That part in the book where Tolkien describes him spending a last few moments or is it hours talking with Arwen before he sets off back to Rivendell brings tears to my eyes... as do a number of other deeply poignant 'endings' of Tolkien.
@@keyboarddancers7751 fathers and their daughters huh. It seems there is no difference in family relationships be it men or elves.
The art in your video is breathtaking.
Aragorn willingly gives his own life after over a century of kingship and dies, Legolas and Gimli after traveling far and wide together depart from Middle Earth after Legolas builds a ship, still disputed whether Gimli lives an immortal life or dies shortly after arriving in Valinor
Nice work! Very well told!
This is a great telling! Thank you
I felt so happy when I heard that Aragorn was very nice to the hobbits. And whenever he was in the north kingdom the hobbits were glad. The independent and protected little enclave within the kingdom of Arnor.
I like how Arwen was like yup time to die. And just sits on a grassy slope to conclude it. Like how
presumably by not drinking water. You’ll be dead within four days if you don’t drink. Sooner if you cry a lot. It definitely shows how committed she was. Death by dehydration is not pleasant: and intentionally dehydrating yourself to the point of death takes effort. But having just lost her spouse, and being over 3,000 years old: it’s not a surprise she was very done with life.
Died of a broken heart. Elves could die of depression.
I know this video is two months old at this point, but from the description of "overlapping brazen, plates" and looking at the artwork when you said it, that just sounds / looks like scale armour of which the individual scales are referred to as plates. Something that has been around since the 4th century, if not longer. So rather than being the pinnacle of armour in Middle-Earth, it would be older and simpler than the early middle-ages armour Tolkien drew inspiration from for the likes of Gondor and Rohan.
Yeah, if Tolkien's talking about scale mail then you're probably right.
@@tolkienuntangled As much as I loathe putting words into Tolkien's mouth, scale mail is what I assume he meant. It would fit the general time period Tolkien drew inspiration from and was widely used by the historical cultures the Haradrim might have been loosely based on.
That, and I think it a bit unlikely the Haradrim, a largely desert dwelling folk, would have armour more advanced than what is generally used by both dwarves, elves and the Númenóreans.
Thank you for your great video Friend
Arwen’s death always bugged me. I appreciate that her death brings the old tales to a close but as a female reader it just bothered me. Maybe because I read it around the same time the Star Wars prequels were finishing too…it seemed like once their man is gone, these women just die. Arwen had multiple children and presumably grandchildren-wouldn’t she want to guide her family in the wake of Aragorn’s death? I never got it but it is lovely writing.
As a mother I completely concur. I love my husband, but I love my children more. It doesn't matter how old I am I would never leave my kids side voluntarily.
well, Arwen's love for Aragorn was just too great that when he died and no more, Arwen couldn't take it well..so she died brokenhearted. It was because of Aragorn that Arwen stayed in the middle Earth..the reason why she chose a mortal life, and now that he is gone, Arwen saw no reason why she needs to stay alive. I can say that Arwen is truly head over heels madly in love with her husband. That how it was for Arwen. Aragorn is everything for her. She sacrificed her immortal life, her father and her people just to be with Him. Without Aragorn, life is nothing..its bleak and no happiness. I can understand her very well. Maybe its the same way for me if i truly very in love with my husband/man. As long as my children are old enough, doing well on their own, I think I wanted to followed my husband right away LOL, because the pain of loosing Him is just too much. It's the same for Arwen..so yeah i know her feelings well.
@@roxystarlite4106 absolutely. Reading and watching LOTR and Star Wars as a kid, it bugged me. Now, as a mother, it’s unfathomable.
@@rachaelerin1it's not like they were childs come on, they were all grown ass men and women, they were all probably married and with families and a king so what gives let her pursue her eternal happiness, her motherly work had already been fulfilled
Amazing videos man! Subbed!
Keep up the good work - Love it!
Not faulting your tale, it was beautiful. You may have have embellished the tale of Gimli going into the furthest West by quoting the book where it spoke of the friendship of Legolas and Gimli being the greatest ever between Elf and Dwarf and that Legolas took Gimli which you spoke of so eloquently, but you forgot to add some version of Galadriel's part in the last paragraph in the Appendix dealing with Durin's Folk.
"If this is true, then it is strange indeed that a dwarf should be willing to leave Middle-Earth for any love, or that the Eldar should receive him, or that the Lords of the West [the Valar] should permit it. But it is said that Gimli went also out of desire to see again the beauty of Galadriel; and it may be that she, being mighty among the Eldar, obtained this grace for him. More cannot be said of this matter"
Grace; means unmerited favor. A matter of love.
Idea for a program, in what way were dwarves tied to Middle-Earth and how odd it was that Gimli or any dwarf would wish to leave it.
I am more and more impressed by your series. The way you tell the stories is evocative of the books. 20 minutes fly by & then I can't quit listening. P.S. I'm always telling people rhat it took longer to watch the Battle of Helm's Deep, than it took to read it! May the road rise to meet your feet.
Beautiful and informative presentation and storytelling. Thank you. You bring great honor to Tolkien.
Thanks!
Tolkien was a writer ahead of his time.
Is it weird that I want to cry.
My heart is warmed by such an amazing ending for them all but it feels like childhood friends that have left, never to return 😢 😭
Thank you for this epic journey!
The mythology is absolutely beautiful brilliant and very intriguing.
What a great video. Thank you!
This was an AMAZING video!
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You forgot about Sam’s final journey to the Grey Havens then to the West then reunited with Frodo in Valinor until the end of the their days. Also the passing of the red book 📕 from Sam to his daughter Ellinor.
Wow!! You know this stuff! i have read alot of the "Other" things by Christoper and the Silirimion. You are a Master here on TH-cam!
It must've been sad for legolas seeing all his friends die of old age and him nit aging a day.
Gosh I forgot how sad Arwen's passing is....always makes me tear up.
At least she went back to the Isles. Even if she had to die first.
Thank you for the great summary
Eyyy, now this is a nice birthday present.
Very happy birthday to you!
I can't decide if Tolkien was the last great traditional author or the first great modern author. Either way, his works are beyond beautiful. To me, he is the greatest author.
Best wishes from North Carolina. Can't wait for the next offing!
Fantastic TH-cam Rabbithole. Cannot get enough.
Gorgeous artwork.
I assume one of Elessar’s daughters was married to Eomer’s heir as a way to cement the alliance. That’s what princesses are for in monarchies, they’re for forging alliances.
Another thing which sealed the alliance between Rohan and Gondor/Arnor was when Elessar returned the treasures of Rohan to Rohan.
Elboron would be another great choice for one of the King of Gondor’s daughters. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t believe Aragorn or Arwen would force a union between their daughters and the alliances that their father made. They would only accept a union if their princesses actually loved their husbands, but they would probably breathe a sigh of relief when their daughters fell in love with their friends.
Excellent video
That's on Arwen when finally tore up. Awesome video ////
You're an amazing narrator btw
Thanks!