As an amateur with woodworker, i typically feel overpowered with the entire arrangement th-cam.com/users/postUgkxrYREG3-7f1Aqk9ams3ZESRNzGnfdUtyQ . Be that as it may, this arrangements drove me through with much clarity and effortlessness woodplans. Works i now work like a genius. That is great!
@Tmac 1 Ik its 4 months later, but I'll try explaining it to you. They combined two techniques to create the joint: 1-miter, 2: rabbet. A miter joint is when you join two pieces of wood together by cutting the edges to join up. In this case, they cut the edges at a 45 degree angle, so that the joint is at a 90 degree angle. This is shown at 4:27. A rabbet joint is usually a grooved cut on one piece of wood for the other to fit into. Instead of cutting away material to create this groove, they backed the main board with smallerpiece of wood to create the indentations on the top and bottom edges for the top and bottom boards to fit onto. This is shown at 5:57.
Putting the hatch on the underside - hinged, with a latch - would be cleaner and easier to access with the TV set up. A functional question though: How do you control the Sky box with the remote?
Not sure what they will do, but you can purchase IR relays (IR relays have a sensor discreetly placed above with another transmitter stuck in font of the device (where the IR lens is located) that needs to be controlled. Quite inexpensive items. Cheers, David
I'm window shopping for something similar. The only concerning part is cooling for the electronics inside of the shelf. As electronics gets better, the demand for cooling increases. Wouldn't putting them inside the shelf increase the likeliness of oveeheating?
Minimum Brad if you can do it for them kinda prices and still make money then you’ll be a genius! Some of the wardrobes ikea sells cheaper than you can buy the materials for, that’s before making it. If you have the skill and tools to make bespoke furniture don’t sell yourself cheap. If working for yourself you need to earn at least £250/300 a day. To do that you would need to knock out maybe 2 pieces a day with materials cost. If you’re skilled you will be doing yourself a disservice by working below market value
From where I come from, Cost of the plywood, the wood for the support including labour cost will come to around 150USD. Heck you can even build a bungalow in under 20k-30k USD, ground up from the foundation.
I love the way you showcase "Finish Carpentry TV" CA glue and activator. It's nice that you support another YT presenter! Love your vids, thanks for taking the time to filming and editing it. I don't think people realize how much effort it takes to edit videos.
Seem like alot of Work and Money for what it is. As a Custom Audio Video Worker. I'd would have done TV mount and put all the Equipment on that Shared wall.
Who owns a 65” tv and doesn’t wall mount it, its literally a no brainer. Admittedly dads beovision avant comes with a stand, but that thing weight like 100kg
Fantastic work! Question though, how does the new control box pick up the signal when it's inside the plywood shelf? I think here in the UK most remotes are infra red? Won't it need line of sight?
In my country ALL walls are either brick (for older houses) or concrete (for newer houses) so watching work on houses build like that is extra interesting. They look like some kind of theatre stage setting.
I just discovered your chanel, watching all videos every spare minute I have :) you are equaly good artist and film maker, very high quality videos. Pleasure to watch
There are other strong means such as using metal but not sure if they are any better. They could have made it a little thicker in framing but it would probably be far stronger than what is needed. What they have is strong enough with room to spare.
Couple suggestions. Double your brackets. One on each side of the king stud and throw a couple L brackets to disperse the stress down. May as well be sure your use of a shelf that size isn’t limited. Put your hidden shelf below. A couple cheep hinges and a magnet to keep it closed is really Easy. All you need is a small hole to feed your TV power cable and infrared sensor wire through. Also if you are comfortable with moderate skill carpentry add a side pocket drawer. Check out hidden shelf storage videos. Easy place to store remotes etc or a firearm depending on your tastes. Have fun!
Looks so good, but then you have the tv's power cord dripping along to the electrical outlet .... better to have that ac outlet in the built in compartment, or at least behind the tv ....
Great work- Would have done it the same except I'm not sure if I like the grain following it down on the ends. What do others think? Waterfall the top grain?
Very nice. As a recommendation if you do this build in the future is to place the L-brackets so they attach to the wall above the shelf. Steel's preferred directional force is tension. You still have plenty of margin installing underneath but you would get less flex and higher margin placing them above.
The stress block diagram of a cross section of the horizontal part of the steel would still show a compression in the lower part of the member, therefore doesn't really matter. As long as the whole angle is well fixed into the timber, buckling (which is the compression failure mechanism) will still be resisted by stopping rotation of the angle in the lateral direction. :)
Well that will never ever ever fall off the wall. I do them the same but surface mount it to the wall , so just screw the frame to the studs, not half as strong as that one but does the job. Look forward to seeing the next project Scott
Hi Scott love your work super nice !!!! I am not a pro in woodworking but my question is how do you make these clean cuts, i always have chip offs, can you tell me if the blades you use need to be high quality.
Pretty sure this is it www.woodcraft.com/products/razorsaw-fugaku-kataba-super-hard-saw-240mm-no-112-with-replaceable-blade-gyokucho-razorsaw?via=573621f469702d06760016cd%2C57641cd569702d65930009cc
Any client that says "Any way you can do it cheaper?" should be charged 167.85% MORE than what his original price to do the work. How dare you insult this man. He's the guy I'd pay $700 on his $625 bill and tell him to call me tomorrow for another project. It's these type of one-off projects that make architectural statements. None of this typical Texas contractor grade shit.
Nice job but why not just have a small cable entry at the top and a hatch at the bottom, completely out of sight allowing you to open and slide a sky box inside ?
The floating platform is very well secured with the steel brackets, however the cantilever height focusing at the center of the TV screen should reach the height of >1000 to 1200mm from floor. This is recommended by experts for our vision when seated to watch TV. It would be nice by adding a sound bar by the side and a sub woofer on the floor. Just an informative suggestion for improvement.
Wicked shelf, but... why? A backward-sloping TV, a foot off the floor? Why take up so much of the room for something that can be wall-mounted? Hell, given that you opened up the whole wall you could even have installed it flush in the plasterboard for the same amount of work.
Digging your channel, shout out from Arizona, USA. It looks amazing. Did you have to scribe it where it joined the wall or was that wall perfectly straight? Was the joint finished with a small bead of caulking or, how did you do that? Thanks
Awesome shelf but complete overkill for that TV which probably should be wall mounted. Clicked on video though because I'm looking for similar solution to hold my receiver, htpc, center channel, and turntable. Of course my tv will be on wall.
Only problem is with you’re Aussie ( cardboard houses ) 99% of the walls in you’re homes are made out off drywall but I stay in house that has plaster over brick. How would you sort that out with a floating shelf ?
Nice work from another fellow carpenter, although not sure how many customers would pay what I presume was at least the 2 days labour for 2 skilled carpenters plus materials etc for a lovely but albeit a "ply shelf".. but nice when customers adopt a cost no issue over quality although v hard to come by these days...
Hey Scott love the channel and want to ask what are those old trestles you use. I love the wider, flatter sacrificial top on them. Any suggestions it you can't get them anywhere in uk?
I would prolly hang tv and have a sound bar and xbox on shelf. That cut out ruin a nice shelf. I would rather have a drawers on front. But other then that very professional job. Wonder how much it was labor and material?
This is the sort of video clients see, then expect me to go and do the same but with "a few tweaks" for $200. Oh yeah it will "only take a couple hours"
In the original framing you did not show the installation of the back studs. Once the drywall is installed, there is stud running on the back of the frame. You did not show installing those pieces. If I wanted to make something like this, are those back studs required?
wish i could do this, but i have too many components. i need a hatch for the PC, the home theater receiver, the pre-amp, the bluray player, line conditioner, and future video game consoles.
Tickler makes a miter fold dado set to cut the wood so it doesn't have many edges and you can just fold the wood giving a seamless edge. Pretty neat but looks to be a bitch setting up. I seen a guy that had worked on it for about 8yrs I think making that and rockler bought it from him.
Wow wow wow.., you need to build more of these hanging shelves and cabinets SBC & Paerau Bell. Excellent work . I want one now!!😁😎👍plus the Plywood feature wall looks amazing.
I really like your videos and they inspire me to start building with wood again. Right now making carpentered furniture in a friends workshop and I’m in love with the whole process. Thanks for rekindling my love for wood working. BUT PLEASE! Please use less shitty music for your videos. Those royalty free tracks are ruining every decent content creators hard work. there are so many sites to get decent music from for next to nothing (money-wise). Maybe consider putting some of your YT-revenue to good use and change those mind boggelingly bad music tracks. All the love from Germany
Just a small tip guys. If the receiver in indeed located in the space under the TV and the lid is put on, you will need to install a silent fan to draw cooling air into that space. Even solid-state receivers get warm, and if the air isn‘t circulated, it will overheat. The build of the shelf in absolute genius and the finished shelf is a real eye-catcher 👍👍👍
Awesome project! That big clamping on the ceiling, in France we call that "Ciel d'ébéniste" translates to cabinetmaker's sky! Used it everyday for most of my lutherie work, super cool technique!
I may have over done that bracket with a 10ga tube of 2x3 inch steel welded to an 8ga metal plate running the length of the stud, oh well. I can stand on it with not even the slightest flex.
As an amateur with woodworker, i typically feel overpowered with the entire arrangement th-cam.com/users/postUgkxrYREG3-7f1Aqk9ams3ZESRNzGnfdUtyQ . Be that as it may, this arrangements drove me through with much clarity and effortlessness woodplans. Works i now work like a genius. That is great!
Racist pig
Watching this on the toilet at 5:48am before I leave for work.
Too much information haha
+Ascar Garcia
Prune can be a great help as they are high in fibre and also contain sugars that aid the intestinal digestion process.
How many wipes??
I hope everything came out alright!
You guys did amazing job. Good job to all of you guys
Talented and clever stuff lads !!! Looks AMAZING 🤩
I like how you back the mitered pieces with a straight cut piece to make a mitered rabit joint.
@Tmac 1 Ik its 4 months later, but I'll try explaining it to you. They combined two techniques to create the joint: 1-miter, 2: rabbet. A miter joint is when you join two pieces of wood together by cutting the edges to join up. In this case, they cut the edges at a 45 degree angle, so that the joint is at a 90 degree angle. This is shown at 4:27. A rabbet joint is usually a grooved cut on one piece of wood for the other to fit into. Instead of cutting away material to create this groove, they backed the main board with smallerpiece of wood to create the indentations on the top and bottom edges for the top and bottom boards to fit onto. This is shown at 5:57.
Great job !!
Looks great, led lights underneath the shelf would have set it off.
Is it really enough to just use glue to hold the joints? I guess the studs hold the weight so it doesnt matter?
Putting the hatch on the underside - hinged, with a latch - would be cleaner and easier to access with the TV set up.
A functional question though: How do you control the Sky box with the remote?
Not sure what they will do, but you can purchase IR relays (IR relays have a sensor discreetly placed above with another transmitter stuck in font of the device (where the IR lens is located) that needs to be controlled. Quite inexpensive items. Cheers, David
Dude whoever buys that house next better like that floating shelf cause that shit isn’t going anywhere
theBIGlegume after they put it in place I just imagined the homeowner wanting it higher haha
I'm window shopping for something similar. The only concerning part is cooling for the electronics inside of the shelf. As electronics gets better, the demand for cooling increases. Wouldn't putting them inside the shelf increase the likeliness of oveeheating?
maybe if you move a little slower with the camera while looking at the finished work , for the viewer to look at the work.
Liking the music in the background! Great feel to your videos, really is.
I loved watching the technical stuff in your garage, solid stuff.
Thumbs up!
Some of your best work this, as a carpenter and a content creator.
What you guys do with ply wood is so cool and inspiring.
Love how Paerau is mister confident man doing all the scary 'this has to go perfectly cuts'. Great build guys!
The plywood wall and the floating shelf are definitely my favourites of your projects. Real quality craftsmanship by you and your team
It's always interesting how much extra work goes into doing something that "shows" less material.
I bet that cost a fair amount, nice when customers are willing to spend money with you tho
Minimum Brad if you can do it for them kinda prices and still make money then you’ll be a genius! Some of the wardrobes ikea sells cheaper than you can buy the materials for, that’s before making it. If you have the skill and tools to make bespoke furniture don’t sell yourself cheap. If working for yourself you need to earn at least £250/300 a day. To do that you would need to knock out maybe 2 pieces a day with materials cost. If you’re skilled you will be doing yourself a disservice by working below market value
From where I come from, Cost of the plywood, the wood for the support including labour cost will come to around 150USD.
Heck you can even build a bungalow in under 20k-30k USD, ground up from the foundation.
I'm a huge fan of floating shelves, and this one looks Effing amazing!!! could share how much you charge for anyone to have it done?
I love the way you showcase "Finish Carpentry TV" CA glue and activator. It's nice that you support another YT presenter! Love your vids, thanks for taking the time to filming and editing it. I don't think people realize how much effort it takes to edit videos.
Hansang Bae I don’t think he knows about the Finish Carpentry TV channel 🤣. th-cam.com/video/LaJTC5kRhkI/w-d-xo.html&feature=share.
@@GAROmx He does, he was gifted the glue from Richard.
Can glue really be enough to fold joints without screws - I would have thought pocket screws would help strength?
Seem like alot of Work and Money for what it is. As a Custom Audio Video Worker. I'd would have done TV mount and put all the Equipment on that Shared wall.
WOW that looks awesome! good job guys. This house is really looking good. Is it a friend of yours? or just a client?
It’s their sparkies I think
Who owns a 65” tv and doesn’t wall mount it, its literally a no brainer. Admittedly dads beovision avant comes with a stand, but that thing weight like 100kg
Agreed! I think wall mounted with the floating shelf would be the perfect combo.
I have a 65" tv, and I won't wall mount it.
Big fan from the uk keep up the good work
Another master class in carpentry ! the wall and the shelf look fabulous together, real class well done
Great idea. Just a thought - a T shaped bracket might have been even stronger do you think?
Or a second "L" bracket on both sides of the wall stud.
Man, the piece of plywood inside the mitered piece to make the glue up easier is something I never thought of or have seen...genius!
Love the intro, great work guys from another kiwi carpenter.
Festool screws is about all I can afford from them too
Like the muffled music while the hearing protection was on...👏
I think that’s just the way the song is.
Fantastic work! Question though, how does the new control box pick up the signal when it's inside the plywood shelf? I think here in the UK most remotes are infra red? Won't it need line of sight?
They make IR repeaters for that reason
Im always impressed with the small spaces you work in. No large work shop. Very efficient both on site and in your work shop.
In my country ALL walls are either brick (for older houses) or concrete (for newer houses) so watching work on houses build like that is extra interesting. They look like some kind of theatre stage setting.
Typical New Zealand homes are timber structures as the materials are abundant and cost effective
I just discovered your chanel, watching all videos every spare minute I have :) you are equaly good artist and film maker, very high quality videos. Pleasure to watch
Beautiful. The grain lining up around the edges is flawless. 😊 You guys are so talented.
I'm after something similar in my house and hands down yours is the best one I've seen
There are other strong means such as using metal but not sure if they are any better. They could have made it a little thicker in framing but it would probably be far stronger than what is needed. What they have is strong enough with room to spare.
Couple suggestions.
Double your brackets. One on each side of the king stud and throw a couple L brackets to disperse the stress down.
May as well be sure your use of a shelf that size isn’t limited.
Put your hidden shelf below. A couple cheep hinges and a magnet to keep it closed is really Easy. All you need is a small hole to feed your TV power cable and infrared sensor wire through.
Also if you are comfortable with moderate skill carpentry add a side pocket drawer.
Check out hidden shelf storage videos. Easy place to store remotes etc or a firearm depending on your tastes.
Have fun!
@Altair
I do not know anybody that would allow that in their home but I suppose some people will do that.
Looks so good, but then you have the tv's power cord dripping along to the electrical outlet .... better to have that ac outlet in the built in compartment, or at least behind the tv ....
Ya I was like Oh man! When i saw that
Nice job. Have you tried "Lock Mitre" Router bits for those type of joints?
If they had a good router table setup, that would certainly be the best way to do it.
Maaaate, I’d give an A+ for that!
Great work- Would have done it the same except I'm not sure if I like the grain following it down on the ends. What do others think? Waterfall the top grain?
what brand or style name for the clamp u use on the track saw track?
I would also like to know that. The ones from Makita are not so nice.
Very nice. As a recommendation if you do this build in the future is to place the L-brackets so they attach to the wall above the shelf. Steel's preferred directional force is tension. You still have plenty of margin installing underneath but you would get less flex and higher margin placing them above.
The stress block diagram of a cross section of the horizontal part of the steel would still show a compression in the lower part of the member, therefore doesn't really matter. As long as the whole angle is well fixed into the timber, buckling (which is the compression failure mechanism) will still be resisted by stopping rotation of the angle in the lateral direction. :)
Wow, that was seriously overkill, guys - especially for a one 65” 😄 Maybe if it was a dance floor... but it looks good.
It's better to be overkill than having a smashed tv tbf
Love the work! That's going to be a shin buster, but at least it looks good.
Hopefully no young kids running around, could be a head buster
good music good carpentry good video 👌👌
This is a work of art!!!
I would have done it the exact same way except I would have the metal brackets going up instead of down. Another great video!
Well that will never ever ever fall off the wall. I do them the same but surface mount it to the wall , so just screw the frame to the studs, not half as strong as that one but does the job. Look forward to seeing the next project Scott
Hi Scott love your work super nice !!!! I am not a pro in woodworking but my question is how do you make these clean cuts, i always have chip offs, can you tell me if the blades you use need to be high quality.
looks great
I have been trying to build the perfect floating shelf for years. You did it. That mounting support system is top notch..
Its over engineered bro....for max 10 kg thin tv .....unless you will put two mark levinson mono block on it ...however i enjoy your work complexity
Great way to do a floating shelf
Awesome build mate, I wonder how the client is going to change channels with the sky box hidden and the IR sensor is blocked.
Another great episode of Scott Brown carpentry. Nicely done!
IMHO, if you spaced the vertical supports less, you'd have less wasted space between the bins. 2:25
you forgot to put that sweet Japanese pull saw in your list of tools- what brand is it? I'd buy it through one of your links if you post it.
Pretty sure this is it
www.woodcraft.com/products/razorsaw-fugaku-kataba-super-hard-saw-240mm-no-112-with-replaceable-blade-gyokucho-razorsaw?via=573621f469702d06760016cd%2C57641cd569702d65930009cc
Nick Diamond are all the Japanese saws that expensive?
@@lewiscantplay8639 You think $49 is expensive?
baletashakur relatively for a saw yes. Can buy a cordless battery tool for almost the same price
Any client that says "Any way you can do it cheaper?" should be charged 167.85% MORE than what his original price to do the work. How dare you insult this man. He's the guy I'd pay $700 on his $625 bill and tell him to call me tomorrow for another project. It's these type of one-off projects that make architectural statements. None of this typical Texas contractor grade shit.
By the way loved the shelf, and the thread of this episode. Keep coming
the power source should of been wired inside the shelf.
Nice job but why not just have a small cable entry at the top and a hatch at the bottom, completely out of sight allowing you to open and slide a sky box inside ?
The floating platform is very well secured with the steel brackets, however the cantilever height focusing at the center of the TV screen should reach the height of >1000 to 1200mm from floor. This is recommended by experts for our vision when seated to watch TV. It would be nice by adding a sound bar by the side and a sub woofer on the floor. Just an informative suggestion for improvement.
kudos for carpenters actually wearing hearing protection!
Awesome. Love the seamless plywood joint. I've been thinking about it and want to do it myself one day since I don't have the circular saw.
Wicked shelf, but... why? A backward-sloping TV, a foot off the floor? Why take up so much of the room for something that can be wall-mounted? Hell, given that you opened up the whole wall you could even have installed it flush in the plasterboard for the same amount of work.
Digging your channel, shout out from Arizona, USA. It looks amazing. Did you have to scribe it where it joined the wall or was that wall perfectly straight? Was the joint finished with a small bead of caulking or, how did you do that? Thanks
So how many dancing girls will it hold? Asking for myself.
Awesome shelf but complete overkill for that TV which probably should be wall mounted. Clicked on video though because I'm looking for similar solution to hold my receiver, htpc, center channel, and turntable. Of course my tv will be on wall.
Your work is great. But I think some of your builds are over constructed for it's purpose.
Shelf looks great, really slick. I would have used LVL for the supports, but meh, ain't going nowhere bro
Sorry Guys... That's a huge overkill for a simple hollow shelf with a 4 kg TV set on top of it. Oh yeah, and a cable box.
Only problem is with you’re Aussie ( cardboard houses ) 99% of the walls in you’re homes are made out off drywall but I stay in house that has plaster over brick. How would you sort that out with a floating shelf ?
Nice work from another fellow carpenter, although not sure how many customers would pay what I presume was at least the 2 days labour for 2 skilled carpenters plus materials etc for a lovely but albeit a "ply shelf".. but nice when customers adopt a cost no issue over quality although v hard to come by these days...
Absolutely gorgeous! How would you handle adding a soundbar to this set up?
Hey Scott love the channel and want to ask what are those old trestles you use. I love the wider, flatter sacrificial top on them. Any suggestions it you can't get them anywhere in uk?
How do you circumnavigate that fact that you're pissfarting around with cameras on the the clock with the clients?
You could of had 5 adults, maybe 10 if you could get them to all stand on the small ledge. It is built like a beast.
very nicely done. and you're builders? most builders i've dealt with with can barely put things up straight & level.
I would prolly hang tv and have a sound bar and xbox on shelf. That cut out ruin a nice shelf. I would rather have a drawers on front. But other then that very professional job. Wonder how much it was labor and material?
This is the sort of video clients see, then expect me to go and do the same but with "a few tweaks" for $200. Oh yeah it will "only take a couple hours"
In the original framing you did not show the installation of the back studs. Once the drywall is installed, there is stud running on the back of the frame. You did not show installing those pieces. If I wanted to make something like this, are those back studs required?
wish i could do this, but i have too many components. i need a hatch for the PC, the home theater receiver, the pre-amp, the bluray player, line conditioner, and future video game consoles.
Tickler makes a miter fold dado set to cut the wood so it doesn't have many edges and you can just fold the wood giving a seamless edge. Pretty neat but looks to be a bitch setting up. I seen a guy that had worked on it for about 8yrs I think making that and rockler bought it from him.
Hey Sott :) nice Video! why are you using cross cuttet screws and now torx? we called in germany torx i dont know in english (star cutting:D)
What is that Makita Circular saw runner for cutting straights called, please? 4:43
*Inspired Novice*
The project was pretty good but the music was Uu la la...
p.s. could you please do a video on the making of the shelve itself with seamless edges.
Wow wow wow.., you need to build more of these hanging shelves and cabinets SBC & Paerau Bell. Excellent work . I want one now!!😁😎👍plus the Plywood feature wall looks amazing.
What track do you use for circular saw? I want to build similar shelf, I have saw but I need these tracks. Thank you.
I really like your videos and they inspire me to start building with wood again. Right now making carpentered furniture in a friends workshop and I’m in love with the whole process. Thanks for rekindling my love for wood working. BUT PLEASE! Please use less shitty music for your videos. Those royalty free tracks are ruining every decent content creators hard work. there are so many sites to get decent music from for next to nothing (money-wise). Maybe consider putting some of your YT-revenue to good use and change those mind boggelingly bad music tracks. All the love from Germany
You fullas are TU MEKE lol
Just a small tip guys. If the receiver in indeed located in the space under the TV and the lid is put on, you will need to install a silent fan to draw cooling air into that space. Even solid-state receivers get warm, and if the air isn‘t circulated, it will overheat. The build of the shelf in absolute genius and the finished shelf is a real eye-catcher 👍👍👍
Your music has got nicer and more mellow than this head-banging stuff, since you moved to Nelson.
Awesome project! That big clamping on the ceiling, in France we call that "Ciel d'ébéniste" translates to cabinetmaker's sky! Used it everyday for most of my lutherie work, super cool technique!
Nice and beautiful, no doubt you guys like perfection, I prefer 22.5° corners.
I may have over done that bracket with a 10ga tube of 2x3 inch steel welded to an 8ga metal plate running the length of the stud, oh well. I can stand on it with not even the slightest flex.
Can't believe that you still had the TV power showing. Why did you not move the power point to behind the TV?
Looks great, but how well does the infared remote work if the box is in the cubby?
Errrmmm yep. I was looking for this comment. Set the box to Sport Channel. Or Porn, and then close it up.
I'll admit at first I thought the whole plywood thing was naff, but the result really does look nice.
Now that is the proper height for a TV! A little tired of craning my neck at TVs that are placed above a fireplace or otherwise up high.
Nice....How about the sound bar.?......They all need them or the sound is lousy