Yes I bought his books, cost a fortune but man it was worth it. Everything he writes is as relevant today as it was back then, amazing insight and the truth he writes strikes at the heart. You can dismiss him as religious, but the funny part is, he wasn't really religious.
@@latitudeselongitudes1932 I don't have any direct quotes but from reading St Petersburg Dialogues it was clear to me at least that de Maistre viewed religion like Cicero does in "De re publica", that it is a means for social cohesion through traditions and ceremonies that build community and loyalty, and also political control in providing justifications for various laws and necessary hierarchies. Cicero observed Roman religious traditions but never believed that the God's were real, I think the same goes for de Maistre based on what I read.
@@chrisyuri4187 That's profoundly stupid. Just because someone thinks religion is "a means for social cohesion through traditions and ceremonies that build community and loyalty, and also political control in providing justifications for various laws and necessary hierarchies", you don't believe that God's real. In fact it would be to conclude, that because I think math is useful therefore I don't really believe in math, but merely think 2+2=4 is a useful social construct. In fact you can't in good conscience call yourself catholic and dismiss traditions, ceremonies or privatize your religion whenever "politics" happens.
For a compatible but different cut on de Maistre's role in the development yet derailment of Western thought, it is worth considering Eric Voegelin's account in pp. 183-194, From Enlightenment to Revolution...
Maistre's critique of Enlightenment rationalism is very derivative of Pascal. I can understand why Maistre himself downplayed that, both to enhance his own perceived originality and because Pascal, having been a notorious Jansenist, could not be claimed as a good Catholic. But I find it strange that Berlin and most other modern commentators on Maistre should ignore his great debt to Pascal.
Another Krishna Murthy there as Maistry He didn't know Lynn is the cast and meastri is just an ugly lable and not the sername or the cast looks like Historian knows very Iittle about real history
I can hardly understand a word that this enemy of the Faith utters. He mangles both the English and the French tongues. The quest for peace during this mortal life is futile. See Job 7:1. Liberalism, anthropocentricity, is narcissism. Sardinia was part of the Savoyard monarchy. I'm a Columbia College alumnus. The Columbia ignoramuses' puerile levity is unsurprising. Only God is sovereign. The creatures are subjects. The purpose of life is to obey God. Disobedience to God is Luciferianism. Satan has dominium in this world.
Isaiah Berlin, the only man on TH-cam I listen at 0,75 speed. His mind was a treasure to humanity.
I've been trying to take study notes from this for days now. You just made my life much easier
Thanks. I wasn't even aware this was possible. I'm listening at 0.5, this chap is worth it.
Thank you for this suggestion. Appreciated.
@@thejackbancroft7336these are all transcribed and published.
"Joseph de Maistre was unquestionably one of the greatest thinkers and writers of the eighteenth century."
- George Edward Bateman Saintsbury
I miss him so much bros. He’s easily my favorite Jew ever.
What relevance is his religion?
thank you for posting, excellent!
Maistre is a criminally underrated thinker. I hate that he's dismissed as a historical curiosity or as some religious nut
Yes I bought his books, cost a fortune but man it was worth it. Everything he writes is as relevant today as it was back then, amazing insight and the truth he writes strikes at the heart. You can dismiss him as religious, but the funny part is, he wasn't really religious.
@@chrisyuri4187
What makes you think he was not religious?
@@latitudeselongitudes1932 I don't have any direct quotes but from reading St Petersburg Dialogues it was clear to me at least that de Maistre viewed religion like Cicero does in "De re publica", that it is a means for social cohesion through traditions and ceremonies that build community and loyalty, and also political control in providing justifications for various laws and necessary hierarchies. Cicero observed Roman religious traditions but never believed that the God's were real, I think the same goes for de Maistre based on what I read.
@@chrisyuri4187
A sort of cultural approach to religion,i see.Thank you for your answer
@@chrisyuri4187 That's profoundly stupid.
Just because someone thinks religion is "a means for social cohesion through traditions and ceremonies that build community and loyalty, and also political control in providing justifications for various laws and necessary hierarchies", you don't believe that God's real. In fact it would be to conclude, that because I think math is useful therefore I don't really believe in math, but merely think 2+2=4 is a useful social construct.
In fact you can't in good conscience call yourself catholic and dismiss traditions, ceremonies or privatize your religion whenever "politics" happens.
Constitutionalism is indeed an impossible task. Thank you, de Maistre.
De Maistre is one of the (if not the) clearest arguers for Thrasymachus’ position in Book I of the Republic.
For a compatible but different cut on de Maistre's role in the development yet derailment of Western thought, it is worth considering Eric Voegelin's account in pp. 183-194,
From Enlightenment to Revolution...
thanks!
189-194 + Saint-Simon.
He was a master speaker...
Maistre's critique of Enlightenment rationalism is very derivative of Pascal. I can understand why Maistre himself downplayed that, both to enhance his own perceived originality and because Pascal, having been a notorious Jansenist, could not be claimed as a good Catholic. But I find it strange that Berlin and most other modern commentators on Maistre should ignore his great debt to Pascal.
Another Krishna Murthy
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He didn't know Lynn is the
cast and meastri
is just an ugly lable and not the
sername or the cast looks
like Historian knows very
Iittle about real history
I can hardly understand a word that this enemy of the Faith utters. He mangles both the English and the French tongues. The quest for peace during this mortal life is futile. See Job 7:1. Liberalism, anthropocentricity, is narcissism. Sardinia was part of the Savoyard monarchy. I'm a Columbia College alumnus. The Columbia ignoramuses' puerile levity is unsurprising. Only God is sovereign. The creatures are subjects. The purpose of life is to obey God. Disobedience to God is Luciferianism. Satan has dominium in this world.
"Rage, rage against the dying of the light."
Cringe.
12 years old mentally
Yes. Satan has considerable supplies not only of dominium, but aluminum and vanadium.
@@plekkchand I know what aluminium, AI 13, is. What is aluminum?