Slavery in the Bible was different than other more brutal forms of slavery. It was used to pay off debts, integrate into society, and not only that slaves had choices and certain rights as well. The meaning of slavery in the Bible is more like a form of temporary indentured servitude. Not only that it clearly states Exodus 21:16 16 “Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death." So the idea of slavery in modern day times is more like human trafficking and possession which is clearly against the word of GOD.
The question makes a very clear point. The majority of the comments are as if the commenter does not understand the point, or the question. Most often people use the fact that the bible condones slavery to discredit the bible, but I find turning it into your questions to be more effective.
Slavery was part of the prevailing economic system in Arab lands 1500 years ago. So, at the beginning of Islam, it had to be dealt with slowly over the course of time. People who owned slaves were encouraged to free their slaves and discouraged from taking on new ones. This allowed people to adjust their economic dependence on slaves over time. Now you can't have new slaves.
The answer is very simple: the people who wrote the Bible saw nothing wrong in slavery. The first Christian (as far as I know) who condemned slavery was Gregory of Nyssa in the 4th century. Let's remember this great man.
The "simple answer" is "Free will". Regardless of "skin color", there were PLENTY of "slaves" fighting during the "civil war" (blacks in the south.... and Irish, Irish, and MORE Irish and MORE Irish, "fighting" for the north....."black slaves"... blah blah... sucks, for sure, but, do a little research about "Irish slaves")
As Volcy explained in the video, free will isn’t an answer because Yahweh clearly abolished other actions that we still have the free will to do. He didn’t for slavery. So why not?
@@blackathiestcoalition I wonder if you're playing dumb like you can't connect the correlation between free will and choice ?!!!??? This is a elementary concept.The man answered your question,you didn't like the answer. It's like this if YHWH prevents your actions,then he effectively removes free will.Plus He didn't enslave the Hebrews.He allowed them to be enslaved because of disobedience.Which he promised them,blessings for obedience and curses for disobedience.Does a parent allow you to defy them without punishment ?!?? Of course not.smdh
@@jermaineyoung1214 perhaps you’re the dumb one. Abolishing something wouldn’t take away free will because he abolished several things already. He abolished cross dressing. He abolished eating shellfish. He abolished homosexuals. He abolished tattoos. None of those removed free will. But suddenly, if he abolished slavery, your argument is that it would have removed free will? This is special pleading and deflecting to the highest measure. Your bloodthirsty, savage god was fine with slavery. Just admit you worship a monster. At least it would be honest instead of the non-answer “free will” bullshit you keep spewing
Lmao, it's simple,i'm not religious but here's the reasoning and why this question is dumb : you have free will, if humans do something bad, they'll be judged, but their whole life is a judgement of character, harming someone else is part of your free will, but you'll face the consequence later, the one getting harm, if the person was good will be regarded as a martyr and granted paradise, "God allowed Hitler" god allows kids to be harmed, yeah, we never said we lived in a great world, it's like a purgatory, for buddhist it's all about "karma" but it's the same principle, exept for buddhist it happens during your life or your "reincarnations" as they believe that's the pitch, it's not a gotcha question for religious people go ask that in a debate, someone smarter than me, even atheist will answer it, i'm not religious, but i cant let you ask a dumb question, i read the bible and decided not to believe, you didnt, you clearly just think up stuff without studying what you dont like. because if you had, you'd have the answer, wether you believe what they say or not, you'd have their response to that question.
Humans have free will to murder. God still made a command against it. Free will doesn’t answer why didn’t god abolish slavery the same way he abolished everything else in very clear terms. You still never answered the question. Why didn’t god abolish slavery? The question isn’t why bad things happen. The question is why didn’t he abolish the one of the most heinous crimes in human history the same way he abolished using his name in vain. Simply stating “free will” doesn’t answer that. Perhaps actually address the question
@@blackathiestcoalition why dont you ask Egyptians ? ALL races were slaves at one point. it's christians who stopped it, so in a way. God did abolish it. you need to go to educate yourself or at least check your infos, you didnt read antyhing i wrote you just spew your BS are you stupid ? why do you focus on that ? if god could abolish slavery, why didnt he stop all death then ? it's a pointless question, because there was much worse than slavery in history,
In the past when people were defeated in tribal battles, most were slaughtered off the to. It took people to start enslaving people instead of killing them that so many slaves began to be around the world. Some people odf a certain tribal affiliation began to make a fortune by selling and shipping people to other places. Africa was just one of many places people were enslaved. Rome was 9/10ths slaves.
Not sure why you’re talking about Africa and Rome when the question was about the Bible. And it still doesn’t answer the question as to why an all knowing god didn’t simply abolish the practice
The word "slavery" does not appear in the Bible in the original Greek. It's the word "servant" that appears and entire families who fell on hard times, were out in the cold, had nothing to eat offered themselves to wealthy families in trade for food, a roof, clothing, etc. They were ordered to do work but not beaten or mistreated. After 7 (seven) years served the family serving their lord or master had the possibility to leave if they wanted or to stay depending on their needs and this is why God did not abolish slavery, because there was no slavery to abolish. Servitude was very common 2000, 3000 and 4000 years ago. It functioned like a modern social security to provide people without means the conditions to live in a reasonable degree of comfort. What you're thinking of my bald headed friend is chattel slavery like in the American south and the Hebrews did not practice chattel slavery.
You’re questioning of Gods ways is blasphemy. Gods word doesn’t have to cater to what YOU want or what YOU think is right. He doesn’t have to explain everything to YOU. Moses wrote gods commandments, if you can’t follow those basic commandments then you’re going to end up doing stupid satanic shit like owning slaves. It’s not gods fault, it’s the fault of sinners and the devil.
It's like the caller said,we have free will.All the sins he mentioned that YHWH forbid.Guess what genius people do it anyway.If HeZ forced you to not sin,free will would go out the window.
@@blackathiestcoalition YHWH has a purpose for all the actions He takes .Men enslaved other men. Don't you make choices of your own volition.He also had rules for being a slave of the Hebrews,like if the master injured the slave.He could sure the master to be free.You keep looking at ancient times with a modern lens .I'm not doing a back and forth with you.Its like talking to a adult child. Every time you try to explain something to them,they keep asking why.lol Just admit you're not that bright. It's like you have to break down the concepts for your limited comprehension.I really hope you're just playing dumb.
You said “he could have done the same thing for slavery but he didn’t. “ Your statement is incorrect! God tenth commandment is: you shall not covet anything that is your neighbors! God gave a direct commandment against slavery and owning anything that belongs to your neighbor. Divorce cause the identical problem - God provided marriage and men divorced their wives. God provided divorce law because in spite of the command of lust and adultry men dispensed with their wives forcing the bill of divorcement. Both slavery and divorce were rejected by God. however, because man wanted these things God provided lawful responses to accommodate the needs of the conquered victims, So you are wrong all the provisions are there if you read the text!
thou shalt not covet any thing that belongs to your neighbor means you shall not covet anything including their labor. Further i completely provided all data. you simply did not read it. and if if did then you are not working to understand it.@@blackathiestcoalition
@@StoryTimePlace no that’s you being extra contextual. The Bible never says what exactly are the provisions around “thou shall not covet.” You’re adding that to the text. You provided 0 data to support that case. Saying the commandment against coveting is a commandment against slavery is something you’re completely making up. The Bible never says that anywhere
@@andrebrown8969 Don't feel ashamed for me. you don't know history! Unfortunately you probably wont read this. But I hope you do. Slavery is man's creation, not God's. Scripture never condoned slavery, because the commandment actually taught people not to desire to own their neighbor's labor. Since slavery is taking prisoners to enslave their neighbor they are going against the commandment. However, the slave industry was created by MAN. It was created before the commandment! Since, man determined in man's freewill to create and have slaves, God chose to allow man's choice to have slavery. God created man to exercise his freewill, and God was not going to force Himself on man to prevent the free will of man. Instead, God created an path through Israel to 1. regulate slave treatment and 2. God provided a pathway out of slavery through rational law (the law of Moses) to show that slave ownership was wrong. This came thru Israel, Moses and the followers of Christ using Christ's teachings. God's law worked providing a solution exactly as He provided. It was the Christians in England who began the fight against slavery. You see the LAw of Moses taught that Slavery was wrong. So, Christian populace put pressure on its politicians in England, which forced the government to send out the Navy to stop the slave industry. The number of lives and financial cost to England was staggering! This fight to end slavery throughout the western world. The American colonies joined the fight against slavery as well. In the end it was Christians who defeated slavery in the western world. Read Thomas Sowell "Black Rednecks and White Liberals"
Slavery has existed in all cultures and civilizations, from the ancient times until today. Slavery still exists in parts of the world today but nobody seems to care about that. Where is the big outcry over modern slavery? Nobody says anything. The Bible states, "The fool sayeth in his heart, 'There is no God.' " May the love of our Lord and Savior, Christ Jesus bless all of you.
@@blackathiestcoalition use your own mind..think for yourself for once..free will..as try to stop your mind from thinking.. you can't..so no free will..it's a lie
God has not abolished slavery and all other evils because the time has not yet come for him to do so. Curiously, people who make this argument do not stop modern-day slavery, even though they have the free will to do so. Hence, biblical and modern enslavers exist because they think it is right, and good people do nothing to oppose it. If God is not your life's reference point, why would you think that slavery is wrong?
@@ryleighloughty3307 "How do you define 'morality'?" I don't have my own special definition of "morality". Lol Do you? We all understand what is meant by morality; a system of values, distinction between good and bad, right and wrong, principles governing conduct, etc., etc.... "And if not from God (assumes Judeo Christian bronze age war god, "Yahweh ", "Elohim", "Jehovah", "Adonai", "El-Shaddai", "Tzevaot", etc., etc.), then what or who else can be the cause of morality?" Listen, every culture that has ever walked the earth has had its own moral code(s). Morals are most often developed by consensus to further a set of common goals. Your question seems to indicate that you believe that non Christian cultures have no morals or could not create morals. You forget what an old and very wide world we live in. Morals have historically held more power with a populace if they were endorsed by some deity or another but it hasn't always been necessary. Also, morals change from time to time and culture to culture. What is the only acceptable behavior today in Chelsea is the most unacceptable behavior in Dahuk 600 years from now. Men create morals. They always have. With or without Gods. In fact, there is no objective evidence that anyone other than man has ever created any morals. Anyway, to the point of the content creator and your first post in this thread, the CC wasn't asking why God didn't make it impossible to have slavery or any other evil , CC was asking why God didn't proclaim slavery a sin, a line not to be crossed, like he did with murder or eating shellfish or coveting or back sassing your mother, etc., etc., etc. "The time has not yet come" is as weak and unacceptable an answer as is the old catchall, "God's plan". How acceptable would it be to you if you asked your legislators why they haven't done anything about the blatant budget corruption and they responded, "the time has not yet come". Lmao You'd stop voting for those clowns. That argument was fine when educated and authority vested clerics were threatening ignorant, mud covered peasants with a short life on the pyre but it holds no water with anyone who has better than a 3rd grade education and has put any critical thoughts to the question at all. I'd also like to mention, the actions of everyday first world citizens have no bearing on slavery. The average first world person could no more "stop modern-day slavery" than they could walk to the moon. Do you expect that everyone should not go in to work tomorrow but instead book a flight to Cambodia or Botswana where they will then individually ascertain which persons are slaves and which are slavers? And what then? Should they whisk away the slaves? And where to? Should they wrestle down the slavers? Take a spray of 7.62 to the chest? You make a show of having these flashy little talking points that jam a finger at people with whom you disagree but there doesn't seem to be much thought behind the words, or perhaps you'd care to elaborate? "If God is not your life's reference point, why would you think that slavery is wrong?" Any number of reasons. A godless heathen may have been a slave, or may currently be a slave. It's not a large leap from being someone's chattel slave to opposing slavery without ever hearing the name of a single deity. Perhaps one's relative or acquaintance was made a slave. One needs no guidance from a sky man or a maid of a lake to feel strongly against the taking of slaves under circumstances like these. I am out of time to reply to you for now. I look forward to reading your responses.
@@ryleighloughty3307 "COULD humans create a moral standard that everyone WOULD agree to?" Yes. Absolutely. Humans COULD. (Insert caveat) Have they? No. Not remotely. COULD the Judeo Christian bronze age war God Yahweh? Yes. Absolutely. He COULD. (Insert caveat) Has he? No. Not remotely. What's your point? We might have to move along at a more accelerated pace than single questions with obvious answers. We should at least use less ambiguous language, don't you think?
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Me realizing it’s all a scam in the 2nd grade after reading Leviticus: “mrs o’reagan, I thought slavery was wrong?”
My God has unshakeable standards . Why did he let his chosen people to be slaves of Egypt, Babylon. Rome and many other countries? Disobedience?
You didn’t answer the question
If your God is Yahwey you have been duped. Jesus Christ is the Only True God.
Why would an atheist choose to question God?
Same reason we would question Zeus
We are not we are questioning its followers
Slavery in the Bible was different than other more brutal forms of slavery. It was used to pay off debts, integrate into society, and not only that slaves had choices and certain rights as well. The meaning of slavery in the Bible is more like a form of temporary indentured servitude. Not only that it clearly states Exodus 21:16
16 “Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death." So the idea of slavery in modern day times is more like human trafficking and possession which is clearly against the word of GOD.
Rubbish
The question makes a very clear point. The majority of the comments are as if the commenter does not understand the point, or the question. Most often people use the fact that the bible condones slavery to discredit the bible, but I find turning it into your questions to be more effective.
Slavery was part of the prevailing economic system in Arab lands 1500 years ago. So, at the beginning of Islam, it had to be dealt with slowly over the course of time. People who owned slaves were encouraged to free their slaves and discouraged from taking on new ones. This allowed people to adjust their economic dependence on slaves over time. Now you can't have new slaves.
Arab states still have slavery. They don’t care what their holy text says either
The answer is very simple: the people who wrote the Bible saw nothing wrong in slavery. The first Christian (as far as I know) who condemned slavery was Gregory of Nyssa in the 4th century. Let's remember this great man.
The "simple answer" is "Free will".
Regardless of "skin color", there were PLENTY of "slaves" fighting during the "civil war" (blacks in the south.... and Irish, Irish, and MORE Irish and MORE Irish, "fighting" for the north....."black slaves"... blah blah... sucks, for sure, but, do a little research about "Irish slaves")
As Volcy explained in the video, free will isn’t an answer because Yahweh clearly abolished other actions that we still have the free will to do. He didn’t for slavery. So why not?
@@blackathiestcoalitionAnd they did them anyway.Your trying to sound smart by giving a circular argument.🤣
@@jermaineyoung1214 so that means he could said something about slavery. Same problem
@@blackathiestcoalition I wonder if you're playing dumb like you can't connect the correlation between free will and choice ?!!!??? This is a elementary concept.The man answered your question,you didn't like the answer. It's like this if YHWH prevents your actions,then he effectively removes free will.Plus He didn't enslave the Hebrews.He allowed them to be enslaved because of disobedience.Which he promised them,blessings for obedience and curses for disobedience.Does a parent allow you to defy them without punishment ?!?? Of course not.smdh
@@jermaineyoung1214 perhaps you’re the dumb one. Abolishing something wouldn’t take away free will because he abolished several things already. He abolished cross dressing. He abolished eating shellfish. He abolished homosexuals. He abolished tattoos. None of those removed free will. But suddenly, if he abolished slavery, your argument is that it would have removed free will?
This is special pleading and deflecting to the highest measure. Your bloodthirsty, savage god was fine with slavery. Just admit you worship a monster. At least it would be honest instead of the non-answer “free will” bullshit you keep spewing
Lmao, it's simple,i'm not religious but here's the reasoning and why this question is dumb : you have free will, if humans do something bad, they'll be judged, but their whole life is a judgement of character, harming someone else is part of your free will, but you'll face the consequence later, the one getting harm, if the person was good will be regarded as a martyr and granted paradise,
"God allowed Hitler" god allows kids to be harmed, yeah, we never said we lived in a great world, it's like a purgatory, for buddhist it's all about "karma" but it's the same principle, exept for buddhist it happens during your life or your "reincarnations" as they believe
that's the pitch, it's not a gotcha question for religious people go ask that in a debate, someone smarter than me, even atheist will answer it, i'm not religious, but i cant let you ask a dumb question, i read the bible and decided not to believe, you didnt, you clearly just think up stuff without studying what you dont like. because if you had, you'd have the answer, wether you believe what they say or not, you'd have their response to that question.
Humans have free will to murder. God still made a command against it. Free will doesn’t answer why didn’t god abolish slavery the same way he abolished everything else in very clear terms. You still never answered the question. Why didn’t god abolish slavery?
The question isn’t why bad things happen. The question is why didn’t he abolish the one of the most heinous crimes in human history the same way he abolished using his name in vain. Simply stating “free will” doesn’t answer that. Perhaps actually address the question
@@blackathiestcoalition why dont you ask Egyptians ?
ALL races were slaves at one point.
it's christians who stopped it, so in a way. God did abolish it. you need to go to educate yourself or at least check your infos, you didnt read antyhing i wrote you just spew your BS
are you stupid ? why do you focus on that ? if god could abolish slavery, why didnt he stop all death then ? it's a pointless question, because there was much worse than slavery in history,
@@blackathiestcoalition
All race were enslaved at one point, why dont you ask egyptians ?
this is pointless, you need to look up for yourself.
@@zomkino who said anything about race? You’re pivoting
Next level Deflection! You can’t reason with the unreasonable.
You were sold because of your sins because of your transgressions your mother was sent away.
why didnt god...really? the bible clearly states that god gave man choice. you choose your behaviour and pay later
What was the point of the 10 commandments then? He clearly laid out rules so he could have added slavery and didn’t
Why is it allowed now to come back?
If some god knew the past, present and future it would get terribly bored.
In the past when people were defeated in tribal battles, most were slaughtered off the to. It took people to start enslaving people instead of killing them that so many slaves began to be around the world. Some people odf a certain tribal affiliation began to make a fortune by selling and shipping people to other places. Africa was just one of many places people were enslaved. Rome was 9/10ths slaves.
Not sure why you’re talking about Africa and Rome when the question was about the Bible. And it still doesn’t answer the question as to why an all knowing god didn’t simply abolish the practice
The word "slavery" does not appear in the Bible in the original Greek. It's the word "servant" that appears and entire families who fell on hard times, were out in the cold, had nothing to eat offered themselves to wealthy families in trade for food, a roof, clothing, etc. They were ordered to do work but not beaten or mistreated. After 7 (seven) years served the family serving their lord or master had the possibility to leave if they wanted or to stay depending on their needs and this is why God did not abolish slavery, because there was no slavery to abolish. Servitude was very common 2000, 3000 and 4000 years ago. It functioned like a modern social security to provide people without means the conditions to live in a reasonable degree of comfort. What you're thinking of my bald headed friend is chattel slavery like in the American south and the Hebrews did not practice chattel slavery.
💯 exactly
The reason god did nothing about slavery is because it isn't real😂
You’re questioning of Gods ways is blasphemy. Gods word doesn’t have to cater to what YOU want or what YOU think is right. He doesn’t have to explain everything to YOU. Moses wrote gods commandments, if you can’t follow those basic commandments then you’re going to end up doing stupid satanic shit like owning slaves. It’s not gods fault, it’s the fault of sinners and the devil.
That verse in Leviticus is Yahweh speaking to the Israelites so slavery is his way
@@blackathiestcoalition can you quote the son of the living god saying that please?
@@blackathiestcoalition still waiting for a response/direct quote
@@GaspingGhost Leviticus 25:44 dude. It’s in your Bible
@@blackathiestcoalition quote it dude, verbatim. It’s in the Bible you’re debating. Put your money where your mouth is
Got em!
It's like the caller said,we have free will.All the sins he mentioned that YHWH forbid.Guess what genius people do it anyway.If HeZ forced you to not sin,free will would go out the window.
Yahweh intervened in free will in the Bible before and he made clear rules. He didn’t do so for slavery. So your answer is still insufficient
@@blackathiestcoalition YHWH has a purpose for all the actions He takes .Men enslaved other men. Don't you make choices of your own volition.He also had rules for being a slave of the Hebrews,like if the master injured the slave.He could sure the master to be free.You keep looking at ancient times with a modern lens .I'm not doing a back and forth with you.Its like talking to a adult child. Every time you try to explain something to them,they keep asking why.lol Just admit you're not that bright. It's like you have to break down the concepts for your limited comprehension.I really hope you're just playing dumb.
You said “he could have done the same thing for slavery but he didn’t. “ Your statement is incorrect! God tenth commandment is: you shall not covet anything that is your neighbors! God gave a direct commandment against slavery and owning anything that belongs to your neighbor.
Divorce cause the identical problem - God provided marriage and men divorced their wives. God provided divorce law because in spite of the command of lust and adultry men dispensed with their wives forcing the bill of divorcement. Both slavery and divorce were rejected by God. however, because man wanted these things God provided lawful responses to accommodate the needs of the conquered victims,
So you are wrong all the provisions are there if you read the text!
“Thou shall not covet” is not a command against slavery. At all.
thou shalt not covet any thing that belongs to your neighbor means you shall not covet anything including their labor. Further i completely provided all data. you simply did not read it. and if if did then you are not working to understand it.@@blackathiestcoalition
@@StoryTimePlace no that’s you being extra contextual. The Bible never says what exactly are the provisions around “thou shall not covet.” You’re adding that to the text. You provided 0 data to support that case. Saying the commandment against coveting is a commandment against slavery is something you’re completely making up. The Bible never says that anywhere
@@StoryTimePlaceI do not know what to say to you. I just feel ashamed for you
@@andrebrown8969 Don't feel ashamed for me. you don't know history! Unfortunately you probably wont read this. But I hope you do.
Slavery is man's creation, not God's. Scripture never condoned slavery, because the commandment actually taught people not to desire to own their neighbor's labor.
Since slavery is taking prisoners to enslave their neighbor they are going against the commandment. However, the slave industry was created by MAN. It was created before the commandment!
Since, man determined in man's freewill to create and have slaves, God chose to allow man's choice to have slavery. God created man to exercise his freewill, and God was not going to force Himself on man to prevent the free will of man.
Instead, God created an path through Israel to 1. regulate slave treatment and 2. God provided a pathway out of slavery through rational law (the law of Moses) to show that slave ownership was wrong. This came thru Israel, Moses and the followers of Christ using Christ's teachings.
God's law worked providing a solution exactly as He provided.
It was the Christians in England who began the fight against slavery. You see the LAw of Moses taught that Slavery was wrong. So, Christian populace put pressure on its politicians in England, which forced the government to send out the Navy to stop the slave industry. The number of lives and financial cost to England was staggering!
This fight to end slavery throughout the western world. The American colonies joined the fight against slavery as well.
In the end it was Christians who defeated slavery in the western world.
Read Thomas Sowell "Black Rednecks and White Liberals"
Slavery has existed in all cultures and civilizations, from the ancient times until today. Slavery still exists in parts of the world today but nobody seems to care about that. Where is the big outcry over modern slavery? Nobody says anything. The Bible states, "The fool sayeth in his heart, 'There is no God.' " May the love of our Lord and Savior, Christ Jesus bless all of you.
Free will..get out of here
Again, doesn’t explain anything. Yahweh abolished cross dressing even tho we have free will. So why didn’t he do the same for slavery?
@@blackathiestcoalition use your own mind..think for yourself for once..free will..as try to stop your mind from thinking.. you can't..so no free will..it's a lie
God has not abolished slavery and all other evils because the time has not yet come for him to do so.
Curiously, people who make this argument do not stop modern-day slavery, even though they have the free will to do so.
Hence, biblical and modern enslavers exist because they think it is right, and good people do nothing to oppose it.
If God is not your life's reference point, why would you think that slavery is wrong?
Imagine not understanding that not all morality stems from the bronze age Judeo Christian war god of "The Bible".
@@goodcitizen3780
How do you define 'morality'?
And if not from God, then what or who else can be the cause of morality?
@@ryleighloughty3307
"How do you define 'morality'?"
I don't have my own special definition of "morality". Lol
Do you?
We all understand what is meant by morality; a system of values, distinction between good and bad, right and wrong, principles governing conduct, etc., etc....
"And if not from God (assumes Judeo Christian bronze age war god, "Yahweh ", "Elohim", "Jehovah", "Adonai", "El-Shaddai", "Tzevaot", etc., etc.), then what or who else can be the cause of morality?"
Listen, every culture that has ever walked the earth has had its own moral code(s). Morals are most often developed by consensus to further a set of common goals. Your question seems to indicate that you believe that non Christian cultures have no morals or could not create morals. You forget what an old and very wide world we live in.
Morals have historically held more power with a populace if they were endorsed by some deity or another but it hasn't always been necessary. Also, morals change from time to time and culture to culture. What is the only acceptable behavior today in Chelsea is the most unacceptable behavior in Dahuk 600 years from now.
Men create morals. They always have. With or without Gods.
In fact, there is no objective evidence that anyone other than man has ever created any morals.
Anyway, to the point of the content creator and your first post in this thread, the CC wasn't asking why God didn't make it impossible to have slavery or any other evil , CC was asking why God didn't proclaim slavery a sin, a line not to be crossed, like he did with murder or eating shellfish or coveting or back sassing your mother, etc., etc., etc.
"The time has not yet come" is as weak and unacceptable an answer as is the old catchall, "God's plan". How acceptable would it be to you if you asked your legislators why they haven't done anything about the blatant budget corruption and they responded, "the time has not yet come". Lmao
You'd stop voting for those clowns.
That argument was fine when educated and authority vested clerics were threatening ignorant, mud covered peasants with a short life on the pyre but it holds no water with anyone who has better than a 3rd grade education and has put any critical thoughts to the question at all.
I'd also like to mention, the actions of everyday first world citizens have no bearing on slavery. The average first world person could no more "stop modern-day slavery" than they could walk to the moon.
Do you expect that everyone should not go in to work tomorrow but instead book a flight to Cambodia or Botswana where they will then individually ascertain which persons are slaves and which are slavers? And what then? Should they whisk away the slaves? And where to? Should they wrestle down the slavers? Take a spray of 7.62 to the chest?
You make a show of having these flashy little talking points that jam a finger at people with whom you disagree but there doesn't seem to be much thought behind the words, or perhaps you'd care to elaborate?
"If God is not your life's reference point, why would you think that slavery is wrong?"
Any number of reasons. A godless heathen may have been a slave, or may currently be a slave. It's not a large leap from being someone's chattel slave to opposing slavery without ever hearing the name of a single deity.
Perhaps one's relative or acquaintance was made a slave. One needs no guidance from a sky man or a maid of a lake to feel strongly against the taking of slaves under circumstances like these.
I am out of time to reply to you for now.
I look forward to reading your responses.
@@goodcitizen3780
Could humans create a moral standard that everyone would agree to?
@@ryleighloughty3307
"COULD humans create a moral standard that everyone WOULD agree to?"
Yes. Absolutely. Humans COULD. (Insert caveat)
Have they? No. Not remotely.
COULD the Judeo Christian bronze age war God Yahweh?
Yes. Absolutely. He COULD. (Insert caveat)
Has he? No. Not remotely.
What's your point?
We might have to move along at a more accelerated pace than single questions with obvious answers.
We should at least use less ambiguous language, don't you think?
You answered your own question.This isn't rocket science.smdh 🤣🤣🤣🤣