Menu: Overview: 0:00 10Base5 cabling and transceivers : 0:34 Thicknet vs Thinnet: 1:55 Terminators: 3:04 10Base2 Transceivers: 3:18 10BaseT Transceivers: 3:38 Why is it called 10Base5: 4:10 Why is it called 10Base2: 4:52 Why is it called 10Base-T: 5:38 Network Diagrams and Drop Cables: 7:02 NICs: 8:22 10Base5 Network Diagram: 10:00 10Base2 Network Diagram: 10:47 10BaseT Network Diagram: 11:33 Demonstration and testing: 13:03 Ping google.com across 10Base5 Network: 14:30 Firefox connection to Google.com: 15:15 Ethereal (Wireshark): 15:40 PcAnywhere controlling Windows 3.11: 19:01 Breaking the network: 20:17
David will not just stop surprising me. He has a rare interest in helping upcoming / potential network Engineers. David is a real man and I will continue to appreciate meeting such a brilliant, dedicated and nice Guy like you. This generation of Engineers will never forget you. Please keep up the good job. We will forever be grateful for your works!!!
It is really interesting to see that TCP/IP has not really changed that much over the course of almost 30 years. The fact that it all still works is awesome.
Ultra late comment but I did installs of 10BASE5 "thicknet" in the early 90's at the Air Force Academy. I worked in Fairchild Hall, second floor. I had to connect the electrochemistry lab to the network. I used the vampire coupling and added a 15 port node. I later had to add a couple more nodes the same way. They updated around 1993 to a newer 10baseT if I remember correctly. This video brought back old memories.
I remember so many problems as a kid trying to use these, they seemed so finicky to me. There was no internet to consult back then; being able to search on the internet for a fix for whatever problem you are having is really underappreciated on a day to day basis.
This is so cool, my dad used to work with these and always tells me about these retro technologies with great nostalgia. We started bonding on a whole new level since I started working in IT.
Hi David, Love your Networking series on Retro Networks. Please keep them coming in. They are some very important Networking fundamentals which i find really interesting and worthwhile. Thank you for your work.
In your video, you asked if any of us were interested in seeing the older technology at work. My one word answer is, yes, of course, certainly, I'm interested, absolutely, I'd love to see the older technology and equipment at work. Thanks.
I bought your Networking course on Udemy to prepare for an exam at my university. Even though I needed something like 15 lessons from it to learn a bit about Packet Tracer and pass the exam (which I did), here I am now, interested in networking history. I also plan to finish the course, even though I would like to continue as a game developer for my career. I know that everything you learn becomes useful at some point, so why not if I enjoy it. Thanks for making it fun!
Much different experience seeing it physically working than just reading it on a book or simply watching a video explanation of 'how' it worked. Very cool!
This brings me back to the days when I was working on 10Base5 Token Ring...A move to 10Base2 Ethernet made life much easier. Thanks David for the memories!
Definitely very interesting! Never knew this was even a thing. I do have an old PC with an ethernet card that also has a coax connector. Now I know why!
Great to see all this stuff in action again! I remember the days of wondering what transceiver or terminator was loose on the thicknet that was bringing down the whole network. We'd have the cable up above the ceiling tiles with AUI drops for each office and some 10base-2 in labs (this was a university setting), so finding the bad connection could be a pretty big pain. Things got so much easier after installing the 100base-T (minus the occasional headache of how many hops were being used with hubs vs switches).
I've worked in enterprise IT for 15 years started out in 2006 right when many companies were upgrading from Windows 2000 to Windows XP. After watching this I'm so glad I missed this era of 10base2/5! Looks like a huge pain compared to what we have to work with today. Awesome to take a look at it though, thank you.
Hi sir The way u are teaching is excellent and one more thing come to comment section u have almost giving response to everyone I loved it. Please do more videos on networking and ccna for beginner to master
Love the vintage network videos! I've always found vintage networking and interesting subject because honestly it was so difficult back in the day and because networking was still in its infancy, there were many companies with different approaches to setting up a network. Would love to see a video on even older stuff such as: 1) ARCNET and all the various devices you could have bought with it (coax, rj11, fiber) 2) PhoneNet Star Controllers and PhoneNet Gateways. Not sure if there was a way to extend PhoneNet over fiber, but I'm sure that would have been cool if there was such a thing (despite the fiber speed would have been hundreds of times faster than PhoneNet's RS485 speeds). 3) Early serial networks that used RS232/RS422/RS485 to share files/printers over using a star controller of some sort 4) Coaxial networks (non Ethernet). Forget some of the names but I understand there were some broadband devices out in the 80s long before cable modems. 5) Early proprietary networks for systems such as the Commodore or even the TRS80 from Radio Shack would be cool too. Keep up the good work! Would love to see an Ethernet Bridge in action too as I would see them in books but they were almost always just a black box that the book explained by never showed one in action. 6) Also, any kind of Ethernet networking that ran over something other than Wireless, IR, 10Base, 100Base, 1000Base (and greater), Fiber, etc. I think some companies made Ethernet over serial adapters is kinda cool. I remember having some "TinyBRidges" years ago that I got to play with that converted RJ45 10BaseT to DB25 where you could make a custom RS232 cable between two TinyBridges and share ethernet packets over the wire. Slow, but pretty neat. Xircom also made stuff like this too. 7) Was there a USB Star hub that would allow you to connect computers together in a network to share files/printers/internet that ran over USB? I wasn't sure if anyone ever made a "switch" or "hub" or "router" that would permit such sharing over USB. Again, love the videos! Keep up the great work!
Thanks David, that bought back some interesting memories and some frustrating memories. I really enjoyed that, appreciate the effort that must have taken! peace
No idea what that "thin" Ethernet cable is, but when I used thin Ethernet, it was Coax cable which is much thinker than David's example. Also, I would have given a lot for thicknet that had black markers at the 3' position. 🙂 Drilling the hole in thicknet had a pucker factor like no other. If you screwed it up and broke the 10Base5 core, you were hosed. As for the routers, we never had that capability either. The computers would act as routers/hubs by putting two cards in it. In cases where we had multiple networks, we'd have a bridge. We also had to deal with the 5-4-3 rule to ensure "routability" of data. More often than not, we would use Ethernet between servers and Arcnet to PCs. In the mainframe environment, we used serial connections to an intermediate "box" that connected multiple serial connections to the Thick Ethernet network all managed by a single computer. Internet access was done using an X.25 pad.
Thanks, I installed several of these in the early days, most exciting doing connections in the dark under a red light at a film factory. The bubble was exciting to see.
Excellent! great job! As I said in a previous video, I have only seen that kind of hardware in books. Incredible explanations on how they work. Thank you David.
That is insanely ghetto, just like at power. It's amazing that even things like using something like transformer switch which was used in homes since the 19th century, or even strip terminals were never in design specifications.
I think that how many thanks I give you would not enough for this video. You are absolutely correct, I have completed my ccnp but I never seen these before. I'm a big fan of yours. Please keep it up. Many many thanks.
Great stuff, reading this in a book vs actually seeing how it connects and functions is very different. I am surprised they had a dark mode from so long ago, not gonna lie XD It's cool seeing all these connections I had on my pc as a kid and understanding how they were actually used now. It's also mindboggling you can still use this stuff today, feels most modern stuff is expected to not last long.
Thanks for a great video! My first home network as kid in the early 90’s was a old 10base2 that my dad had got from his work when they upgraded to 10baseT. But i never heard of thicknet before. Keep up the good work, This channel is a goldmine!
I used to have 10base2 in my apartment back when I first started playing around with computer networks, but until know I'd never actually seen 10base5. I'd also never seen AUI transceivers used with either of those physical media before. (I Have seen them with UTP.) And I've been doing system and network administration for over 20 years!
Crazy what we used to have to go through. I couldn't imagine wiring up a thicknet network these days. Literally damaging your network cable to connect a node.
Thanks for reminding me how old I am. Definitely fun to see some of the technology in action once again. Curious to know where you are able to dig up the software/drivers/cables for your test hosts, lol!
This is really nice... my first experience was in the late 80's upgrading a network of 5 MAC IIce ( i believe) from apple talk to Ethernet, it was 10Base2. I never worked with 10Base5 (or vampire taps for that ) but came across some networks actively using it ( or a mix of thick and thin) in the mid 90's.) I did never see twin axe live (token ring) (except on an AS400 I owned for some years but never networked it. If you have experience with token ring and equipment, making an EP on that would be great.
Great video, fascinating! I'm taking your CCNA course on Udemy (it's excellent- you are a great lecturer) and this brings the historical cabling section to life.. Thank you.
This was very educative. I'd love to see more of the Retro Networking series. Personally, That'd help me get a better understanding of the network we use today.
I was using Windows 3.1 as my first computer OS when I was in elementary school. But never think about interconnecting computers at that time. The home computer itself was quite rare and not everybody has privileges to own it. It interesting to see something that seems usual today but an extraordinary feat 20 years ago.
David, this was one crazy video and I can't fathom as too how much time and dedication it took to assemble everything. Very interesting and I'm really looking forward to more videos like this one!
Just a small point, since you were going into such detail. They are all Ethernet . What we use today is "Fast Ethernet" and above, using UTP cabling. 10BaseT was the first, then 100BaseTX, 1000BaseT, etc.
Thank you very much for this video I really enjoyed it and got some ideas clarified I was struggling with for some time. Thank you again for the great content and the clear explanations.
This isn't just the stuff you read about in books. I cut my Ethernet teeth on ThickNet and Ethernet Taps in which each connection had to manually bored into the cable. Any short on the ring and it would take the whole network down. Mainly used to consist of a ring per floor and a separate ring connected via the risers from ground to top. Any fault could then be isolated by disconnecting each floor! Then using your volt meter check for 50ohm resistance and you knew the floor was good. Happy days.
I just imagine the relief when you finally found a real destination for those old hardware you bought hahaha. Nice video, i want to watch others like this.
Awesome video once again David. More please, please, please. I am studying Cyber Security at University in the UK and the CCNA as a self study course, seeing these older versions help to further understand how technology as changed, you mentioned 'bridging' this is what I have just covered in the CCNA Study guide (recommended by you in your other videos) and that would be very interesting to see. Thanks for the video. Glad your back in the UK safe and well.
Hey thanks for this video. I have been going through a udemy course of yours and got to the bit where you explained these old networks but seeing the actual technology configured in this video was more helpful than just relying on diagrams so this has been helpful, thank you.
Keep on making these retro videos. Great to see this in action instead of all the pictures. Makes it a lot easier to understand and remember. Although not this ancient I’d like to see an example of eg. T1 with a csu/dsu
David Bombal E1 would be perfectly fine too. There’s not really that much of a difference in technical terms except for the number of channels (as far as I know). I’ve never seen either of them in “real life” and I’m interested in how it all connects.
Memory lane.. 1985, I remember AppleTalk over scsi, buggy as hell, if you so much looked at a connector the whole network crashed and all computers had to be rebooted. Cable-end reflectors that were prone to vacuum cleaner 'attacks'. So much fun.
This is so interesting and nobody covers this in great detail. Im getting parts together for my 10base2 network. Only part i'm missing is the bridge to my modern network. I gonna share this video on my retro Facebook group. And thank you for the HP procurve series! I got a stack of hp 5308xl for my pentium 3 retro lan party 😎
This is great stuff. Personally, I'm a huge history buff and while this isn't studying ancient history, in the networking world it's close enough. In order to know where we are going, we need to know where we came from.
What a blast from the past. I never realized how similar the networking interfaces were compared to today's networks. I remember a lot of this from when I was a kid, watching the networking guy come over to troubleshoot our connection (probably because I fucked it up by trying to learn how it works). I remember hating 10BASE2 and being so relieved when RJ45 became mainstream. THere were a lot of other networking issues that in retrospect I could have fixed. Local-network multiplayer gaming was a huge networking challenge because it used different networking protocols. Games like Command & Conquer and Doom used IPX/SPX networking protocols vs TCP and I never quite understood how those protocols worked. Maybe you could do a video describing that old networking protocol.
pretty cool demo. I have the cable and connectors for thicknet but lack the transceivers and demonstrate it to my students. Also could setup a thinnet network, have cable and nics. just need to take the time to put it on an old system and OS.
Thanks David. Now I know how to fix my office NW ;-) Seriously though, a nice trip down memory lane👍 How about a chat on signalling and frames - CSMA/CD, mux/demux, novell, snap, etc. Also, must mention importance of IEEE, IETF, OSI, RFC, etc Keep up the fantastic work😃
yes bombal sir , please make more videos , i lke everything you put on this channel .Love from india ..wishing you a great success and more subscribers .
Quite interesting to see how networking worked before i was connected to the internet! What i'd like to see, is TCP/IP over packet radio/ax.25. Apparently it can be done, but it's not easy. I'd love to have my own radio gateway to the internet on CB radio :) for mobile use of antique laptops!
Menu:
Overview: 0:00
10Base5 cabling and transceivers : 0:34
Thicknet vs Thinnet: 1:55
Terminators: 3:04
10Base2 Transceivers: 3:18
10BaseT Transceivers: 3:38
Why is it called 10Base5: 4:10
Why is it called 10Base2: 4:52
Why is it called 10Base-T: 5:38
Network Diagrams and Drop Cables: 7:02
NICs: 8:22
10Base5 Network Diagram: 10:00
10Base2 Network Diagram: 10:47
10BaseT Network Diagram: 11:33
Demonstration and testing: 13:03
Ping google.com across 10Base5 Network: 14:30
Firefox connection to Google.com: 15:15
Ethereal (Wireshark): 15:40
PcAnywhere controlling Windows 3.11: 19:01
Breaking the network: 20:17
Dude this was great I would love to see more retro networking.
Thank you! Really happy to hear that :)
David will not just stop surprising me. He has a rare interest in helping upcoming / potential network Engineers. David is a real man and I will continue to appreciate meeting such a brilliant, dedicated and nice Guy like you. This generation of Engineers will never forget you. Please keep up the good job. We will forever be grateful for your works!!!
Thank you very much Adeleke! I appreciate those kind words.
It is really interesting to see that TCP/IP has not really changed that much over the course of almost 30 years. The fact that it all still works is awesome.
Agreed. There are a lot of protocols out there that are very much the same as they were 20 or 30 years ago :)
Ultra late comment but I did installs of 10BASE5 "thicknet" in the early 90's at the Air Force Academy. I worked in Fairchild Hall, second floor. I had to connect the electrochemistry lab to the network. I used the vampire coupling and added a 15 port node. I later had to add a couple more nodes the same way. They updated around 1993 to a newer 10baseT if I remember correctly. This video brought back old memories.
That's insane!
Such amazing connectors
When the mac pings win98 it was like the future pinging the past
I had the same feeling :D
Thank you Kevin! Appreciate the feedback :)
I remember so many problems as a kid trying to use these, they seemed so finicky to me. There was no internet to consult back then; being able to search on the internet for a fix for whatever problem you are having is really underappreciated on a day to day basis.
Agreed. It is so much easier today to learn and find out things :)
Absolutely interested! It's great to see the hardware connected and running. Beats a textbook picture any day. 😃
Thank you Armando!
Man, this was insaneeee!! Most people go as far as showing cables and connectors, but you've raised the bar higher. Hats off to you!
This was a blast, it was really nice to see how these things looked and worked back then, it truly helps to get the whole concept!
You are the best lecturer in my opinion David.
Thank you! That is a massive compliment :)
This is so cool, my dad used to work with these and always tells me about these retro technologies with great nostalgia. We started bonding on a whole new level since I started working in IT.
Very cool! Nostalgia is great :)
I can say simply your channel is the best channel for Networkers and IT geeks. Thank you thousand times.
Thank you very much Ahmed. I really appreciate that.
Hi David,
Love your Networking series on Retro Networks. Please keep them coming in. They are some very important Networking fundamentals which i find really interesting and worthwhile.
Thank you for your work.
In your video, you asked if any of us were interested in seeing the older technology at work. My one word answer is, yes, of course, certainly, I'm interested, absolutely, I'd love to see the older technology and equipment at work. Thanks.
Thanks Dan! I'll continue creating content like this :)
I was watching the CCNA course by David Bombal and seeing this video is amazing. Thanks man.
I bought your Networking course on Udemy to prepare for an exam at my university. Even though I needed something like 15 lessons from it to learn a bit about Packet Tracer and pass the exam (which I did), here I am now, interested in networking history. I also plan to finish the course, even though I would like to continue as a game developer for my career. I know that everything you learn becomes useful at some point, so why not if I enjoy it. Thanks for making it fun!
Amazing lecture. Please keep them coming. Thank you, I hope you have your self a fantastic day.
Thank you Andres!
Much different experience seeing it physically working than just reading it on a book or simply watching a video explanation of 'how' it worked. Very cool!
Thank you Miguel. I agree - so much better to actually see it working :)
Thank you again David I have been selling a lot of vintage computers and parts But I really like to play with them
i`ve been looking for content like this for a years, thank You!
Glad you enjoyed the video :)
This brings me back to the days when I was working on 10Base5 Token Ring...A move to 10Base2 Ethernet made life much easier. Thanks David for the memories!
Thank you John. Glad you enjoyed the video :)
Definitely very interesting! Never knew this was even a thing. I do have an old PC with an ethernet card that also has a coax connector. Now I know why!
Glad you enjoyed the video Adbullah!
Great to see all this stuff in action again! I remember the days of wondering what transceiver or terminator was loose on the thicknet that was bringing down the whole network. We'd have the cable up above the ceiling tiles with AUI drops for each office and some 10base-2 in labs (this was a university setting), so finding the bad connection could be a pretty big pain. Things got so much easier after installing the 100base-T (minus the occasional headache of how many hops were being used with hubs vs switches).
Your videos are an absolute wealth of knowledge, David, you're brilliant
I've worked in enterprise IT for 15 years started out in 2006 right when many companies were upgrading from Windows 2000 to Windows XP. After watching this I'm so glad I missed this era of 10base2/5! Looks like a huge pain compared to what we have to work with today. Awesome to take a look at it though, thank you.
Agreed Justin. So much easier today with modern devices!
Thanks David. It takes me back to the good old days of networking. Definitely want to see more of these.
Thank you Peter. I'll continue the series :)
Hi sir
The way u are teaching is excellent and one more thing come to comment section u have almost giving response to everyone I loved it.
Please do more videos on networking and ccna for beginner to master
Thank you! Lots of CCNA and more advanced videos on the way :)
David that's a mind blowing! Unbelievable, great piece of history! Thanks Mr humble!!
Glad that you enjoyed the video :)
Love the vintage network videos! I've always found vintage networking and interesting subject because honestly it was so difficult back in the day and because networking was still in its infancy, there were many companies with different approaches to setting up a network. Would love to see a video on even older stuff such as:
1) ARCNET and all the various devices you could have bought with it (coax, rj11, fiber)
2) PhoneNet Star Controllers and PhoneNet Gateways. Not sure if there was a way to extend PhoneNet over fiber, but I'm sure that would have been cool if there was such a thing (despite the fiber speed would have been hundreds of times faster than PhoneNet's RS485 speeds).
3) Early serial networks that used RS232/RS422/RS485 to share files/printers over using a star controller of some sort
4) Coaxial networks (non Ethernet). Forget some of the names but I understand there were some broadband devices out in the 80s long before cable modems.
5) Early proprietary networks for systems such as the Commodore or even the TRS80 from Radio Shack would be cool too.
Keep up the good work! Would love to see an Ethernet Bridge in action too as I would see them in books but they were almost always just a black box that the book explained by never showed one in action.
6) Also, any kind of Ethernet networking that ran over something other than Wireless, IR, 10Base, 100Base, 1000Base (and greater), Fiber, etc. I think some companies made Ethernet over serial adapters is kinda cool. I remember having some "TinyBRidges" years ago that I got to play with that converted RJ45 10BaseT to DB25 where you could make a custom RS232 cable between two TinyBridges and share ethernet packets over the wire. Slow, but pretty neat. Xircom also made stuff like this too.
7) Was there a USB Star hub that would allow you to connect computers together in a network to share files/printers/internet that ran over USB? I wasn't sure if anyone ever made a "switch" or "hub" or "router" that would permit such sharing over USB.
Again, love the videos! Keep up the great work!
Thanks David for the video. Interesting to see how networking was done longtime ago.
Awesome retro networking series! Glad to see the forefather of networking.
Glad you enjoy it Kuang!
10base2 and 10base5 is still in use in process control automation. In fact I'm in the process of troubleshooting a network now, your video helped.
Wow I can't believe this is still in use in modern times, is that just a cost thing or is there any actual benefit?
Thanks David, that bought back some interesting memories and some frustrating memories. I really enjoyed that, appreciate the effort that must have taken! peace
I love this retro tech videos ! It's always funny to see how it has evolved
Glad to hear that Vincent! Amazing how much better things are today!
Absolutely loving this David! Definitely would love to see more retro tech!
Thank you James! I'll continue adding to this series :)
Great video David I really enjoyed it. My mother was a network technician during this era and was heavily involved in this type of networking 🙂
My first network at home was with two WfW 3.11 machines networked with 10Base2. I used 2nd hand ISA network cards from Tech Rentals.
Very cool Michael
No idea what that "thin" Ethernet cable is, but when I used thin Ethernet, it was Coax cable which is much thinker than David's example. Also, I would have given a lot for thicknet that had black markers at the 3' position. 🙂 Drilling the hole in thicknet had a pucker factor like no other. If you screwed it up and broke the 10Base5 core, you were hosed.
As for the routers, we never had that capability either. The computers would act as routers/hubs by putting two cards in it. In cases where we had multiple networks, we'd have a bridge. We also had to deal with the 5-4-3 rule to ensure "routability" of data. More often than not, we would use Ethernet between servers and Arcnet to PCs. In the mainframe environment, we used serial connections to an intermediate "box" that connected multiple serial connections to the Thick Ethernet network all managed by a single computer.
Internet access was done using an X.25 pad.
Thanks, I installed several of these in the early days, most exciting doing connections in the dark under a red light at a film factory. The bubble was exciting to see.
Excellent! great job! As I said in a previous video, I have only seen that kind of hardware in books. Incredible explanations on how they work. Thank you David.
Thank you Jorge :)
So cool to see this in practice! Thank you for great retro networking 😍
That is insanely ghetto, just like at power. It's amazing that even things like using something like transformer switch which was used in homes since the 19th century, or even strip terminals were never in design specifications.
I think that how many thanks I give you would not enough for this video. You are absolutely correct, I have completed my ccnp but I never seen these before. I'm a big fan of yours. Please keep it up. Many many thanks.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video!
Great stuff, reading this in a book vs actually seeing how it connects and functions is very different. I am surprised they had a dark mode from so long ago, not gonna lie XD It's cool seeing all these connections I had on my pc as a kid and understanding how they were actually used now. It's also mindboggling you can still use this stuff today, feels most modern stuff is expected to not last long.
Thanks for a great video! My first home network as kid in the early 90’s was a old 10base2 that my dad had got from his work when they upgraded to 10baseT. But i never heard of thicknet before. Keep up the good work, This channel is a goldmine!
Thanks for sharing Andreas! And I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the video :)
I used to have 10base2 in my apartment back when I first started playing around with computer networks, but until know I'd never actually seen 10base5. I'd also never seen AUI transceivers used with either of those physical media before. (I Have seen them with UTP.) And I've been doing system and network administration for over 20 years!
Some of this stuff is from the 1970s :) Not that many network engineers around today that have worked with these. Hope you enjoyed the video.
Crazy what we used to have to go through. I couldn't imagine wiring up a thicknet network these days. Literally damaging your network cable to connect a node.
Thanks for reminding me how old I am. Definitely fun to see some of the technology in action once again. Curious to know where you are able to dig up the software/drivers/cables for your test hosts, lol!
lol... both of us feel old :) Took me a long time to put all of this together. eBay and lots of other places.
Nothing like the first time technology you remember first coming out being called retro.
This is really nice... my first experience was in the late 80's upgrading a network of 5 MAC IIce ( i believe) from apple talk to Ethernet, it was 10Base2. I never worked with 10Base5 (or vampire taps for that ) but came across some networks actively using it ( or a mix of thick and thin) in the mid 90's.)
I did never see twin axe live (token ring) (except on an AS400 I owned for some years but never networked it.
If you have experience with token ring and equipment, making an EP on that would be great.
Great video, fascinating! I'm taking your CCNA course on Udemy (it's excellent- you are a great lecturer) and this brings the historical cabling section to life.. Thank you.
Thank you very much Chris!
When you are tired of doing new stuff just go back to do the old difficult ones.
lol... great comment... I like pain 😂
This was very educative.
I'd love to see more of the Retro Networking series.
Personally, That'd help me get a better understanding of the network we use today.
Thank you Kaos. So much more fun to see this stuff actually working than just reading about it in a book :)
Yes, exactly. And the way you do it, makes it equally interesting. :D
I'd love too see more! ❤
This stuff is so cool, this is my kind of history.
This has showed me to never take my modern network for granted anymore. 🤣.
Thank you Manon. Agreed - things are so much better today :)
Thanks David for this interesting stuff. I am very interested in seeing more from the old network devices, especially the bridges You mentioned.
Thank you. I'll publish more videos :)
I was using Windows 3.1 as my first computer OS when I was in elementary school. But never think about interconnecting computers at that time. The home computer itself was quite rare and not everybody has privileges to own it. It interesting to see something that seems usual today but an extraordinary feat 20 years ago.
Agreed. How the world has changed! Can't imagine life anymore without cell phones and the Internet!
David - this is awesome. It's good to know your history. Disclaimer - I'm one of the people you are talking about who use 10BASE-5 in presentations.
Thank you Peter! You more than anyone else is allowed to create presentations about this stuff 😀
Really great sir!! Never seen an instructor like you.....U are great
Thank you Devesh
Dude predicted wifi and powerline networking back when dreaming up the ethernet standard. That's amazing.
Holy cow, this was amazing. I read so much about this back when I was getting my CCNA (2003ish) and none of it made sense.
Glad you found the video interesting David. Agreed - so much better to actually see the stuff working rather than just read about it!
David, this was one crazy video and I can't fathom as too how much time and dedication it took to assemble everything. Very interesting and I'm really looking forward to more videos like this one!
Glad you enjoyed it Sergei! This has taken me a very long time and a lot of effort to put together :)
Just a small point, since you were going into such detail. They are all Ethernet . What we use today is "Fast Ethernet" and above, using UTP cabling. 10BaseT was the first, then 100BaseTX, 1000BaseT, etc.
Thank you very much for this video I really enjoyed it and got some ideas clarified I was struggling with for some time. Thank you again for the great content and the clear explanations.
This isn't just the stuff you read about in books. I cut my Ethernet teeth on ThickNet and Ethernet Taps in which each connection had to manually bored into the cable. Any short on the ring and it would take the whole network down. Mainly used to consist of a ring per floor and a separate ring connected via the risers from ground to top. Any fault could then be isolated by disconnecting each floor! Then using your volt meter check for 50ohm resistance and you knew the floor was good.
Happy days.
lol... you're showing your age :) Great comment - helps those who have never seen this stuff before :)
I just imagine the relief when you finally found a real destination for those old hardware you bought hahaha. Nice video, i want to watch others like this.
Great stuff! I'd like to see more 'history lessons'. It gives you lots of hints, why the things are today as they are.
Thank you Thomas! More to come!
Awesome video once again David. More please, please, please. I am studying Cyber Security at University in the UK and the CCNA as a self study course, seeing these older versions help to further understand how technology as changed, you mentioned 'bridging' this is what I have just covered in the CCNA Study guide (recommended by you in your other videos) and that would be very interesting to see. Thanks for the video. Glad your back in the UK safe and well.
Really glad to hear that you enjoyed the video! I'm definitely going to be adding more videos to this series! Thank you - good to be back in the UK :)
Very educational and interesting. I think its a great idea if you are able to continue with this series. Cheers!
Thank you Mike!
you are the best teacher i have, thanks for your videos❤
Hey thanks for this video. I have been going through a udemy course of yours and got to the bit where you explained these old networks but seeing the actual technology configured in this video was more helpful than just relying on diagrams so this has been helpful, thank you.
Many thanks David. Very educational video. Look forward to more of such video.
Thank you Samuel!
A great explanation of the old things on the internet
Thank you
every video from now on should start with, "I will blow your mind with: " and the name of the video. WOW!
Keep on making these retro videos. Great to see this in action instead of all the pictures. Makes it a lot easier to understand and remember. Although not this ancient I’d like to see an example of eg. T1 with a csu/dsu
Thank you Math. Will do :) I'll see what I can do with a T1 - may need some of my American friends to help me out as we only have E1 type stuff here.
David Bombal E1 would be perfectly fine too. There’s not really that much of a difference in technical terms except for the number of channels (as far as I know). I’ve never seen either of them in “real life” and I’m interested in how it all connects.
Memory lane..
1985, I remember AppleTalk over scsi, buggy as hell, if you so much looked at a connector the whole network crashed and all computers had to be rebooted.
Cable-end reflectors that were prone to vacuum cleaner 'attacks'. So much fun.
lol... love the comment Willem!
This is so interesting and nobody covers this in great detail. Im getting parts together for my 10base2 network. Only part i'm missing is the bridge to my modern network.
I gonna share this video on my retro Facebook group.
And thank you for the HP procurve series! I got a stack of hp 5308xl for my pentium 3 retro lan party 😎
thank you! thank you! thank you! thank you! thank you! I have for so long wanted to see the old networking materials
You're very welcome!
Brilliant timing sir , that's why I've enable notifications So that I can catch up Asap with your videos .
Retro networks sounds amazing !!!!!
Thank you Zuhail! Glad you enjoyed the video :)
@@davidbombal thanks for Inspiring our new generation towards the wisdom of networking 😅
Best Cisco teacher ever. Thanks for All the help on udemy
You're very welcome!
This is a bit of a nightmare for an IT guy who born on 2000 😅😂....thank u Mr.David and keep this video series going on
Stuff was a nightmare. Life is better now :)
Congratulations!! That was a lot of work, great video!
Thank you Sergio! Took me a long time to get that video created :)
This is great stuff. Personally, I'm a huge history buff and while this isn't studying ancient history, in the networking world it's close enough. In order to know where we are going, we need to know where we came from.
Great comment Kiel! Definitely true.
No words......just feel the knowledge
Thanks for this great video. Super interesting and instructive. Done perfectly 👍👍👍
Thank you!
David I really like the format you have on the subject matter.
Thank you
Totally agree.
I messed around with these things when I was 8. Please show me more.
Thank you. Will be adding more soon :)
You teach us good stuff thanks david
Good video, never seen the technology actually work. Thanks for creating the content.
Glad you enjoyed the video Ricardo. Much nicer to see it actually work rather than read about it in a book :)
I would love to see more. Thanks for a great video! :)
So lucky only had 10base2 at home as a kid
What a blast from the past. I never realized how similar the networking interfaces were compared to today's networks. I remember a lot of this from when I was a kid, watching the networking guy come over to troubleshoot our connection (probably because I fucked it up by trying to learn how it works). I remember hating 10BASE2 and being so relieved when RJ45 became mainstream. THere were a lot of other networking issues that in retrospect I could have fixed. Local-network multiplayer gaming was a huge networking challenge because it used different networking protocols. Games like Command & Conquer and Doom used IPX/SPX networking protocols vs TCP and I never quite understood how those protocols worked. Maybe you could do a video describing that old networking protocol.
Thank you Jeremy! Great suggestion :)
Did they have old jacks for the drops like today? Would the tap go in the ceiling?
typically under the floor if there’s a raised floor, but they could be up inside a dropped ceiling as well.
thanks for the presentation.Have a nice day
Thank you for your continued support Madara!
Definitely keep it going. We need more 30lb laptop networking!
lol... thank you Brett. I'll continue with the series.
that yellow cable makes really really good UHF HAM Coax!!!
pretty cool demo. I have the cable and connectors for thicknet but lack the transceivers and demonstrate it to my students. Also could setup a thinnet network, have cable and nics. just need to take the time to put it on an old system and OS.
Wow great work. I would love to see more of Retro Vidoes.
Thank you Afolabi! Will do!
Thanks David. Now I know how to fix my office NW ;-)
Seriously though, a nice trip down memory lane👍
How about a chat on signalling and frames - CSMA/CD, mux/demux, novell, snap, etc.
Also, must mention importance of IEEE, IETF, OSI, RFC, etc
Keep up the fantastic work😃
lol... I'm sure your users won't be happy!
yes bombal sir , please make more videos , i lke everything you put on this channel .Love from india ..wishing you a great success and more subscribers .
Quite interesting to see how networking worked before i was connected to the internet!
What i'd like to see, is TCP/IP over packet radio/ax.25. Apparently it can be done, but it's not easy. I'd love to have my own radio gateway to the internet on CB radio :) for mobile use of antique laptops!