she messed up the pathing :(

gardener moment

[@threehoo]

this is not a serious attempt. it's just to show how ines changes the gardener's (and therefore civvies') pathing. notably, he doesn't enter phase 2 at the top left at the map, so the civvies never make it there.
edit: also, i let the run die too quickly bc this video didn't even show the worst part of this pathing change, which is that the second-to-last usage of the gardener's "preach" ability just places the civvies in front of a boulder lmao

[@argoskeas]

ooh, this happened to me in pinch-out with ines

[@GooeySlime]

Mountain does it too if you put him down on the tile next to the wooden structure to block boulders before they finish looping back around, makes it so they stay on the same tile he's on instead of the one besides him where they're supposed to go, so they take damage from the boulder anyway, lost an attempt because of that

[@ipatchymakouli415]

Sooo back at it today, the best use (for a serious clear) would be to put her to the right of the middle three ranged tiles, facing up. She slows them enough so when they go through the left part, you won't need to fix any hole (they'll hug the left wall). AND while traveling through the top area, they perfectly avoid rocks (you'll still need to block the one on the right so they don't get hit). Ines even reveals the stealthed enemies randomly spawning in here. Meta achieved.

[@threehoo]

wait lmao could you record a video demonstrating this? im curious

[@LarusFotia]

YES! I thought so! I put Ines at the same place like the video but at his phase 2. It made the Gardener stop the civilians in the damn middle of the road where the boulders are coming...

[@jBM7420]

this exact thing happened to me too

[@Foxcolor]

i wonder if Manticore and Mostima will have the same effect

[@ipatchymakouli415]

Manticore needs to hit, so that's a straight no.
On the other hand, Mostima works... Tho it's kinda clunky. With multiple Ines redeployments + Mostima S3 M3 +module lvl3, you'll fight the "waves" of enemies a little earlier compared to Clement & co journey's. But. Slowing them also "shifts" their destination by a bit more than a tile. Resulting in civilians eating rocks during the top area traversal, which you can't prevent (even blocked rocks deal AoE, civilians WILL die).

[@Foxcolor]

@@ipatchymakouli415 Manticore kinda work because of her module , tho the boss won't dies until he reach his final destination :p
Also you can prevent the boss from spawning the light spot on the wrong tiles by manually control when and how long he will be slowed down

[@threehoo]

@@Foxcolori tried testing with ethan amb-x and confusingly did not notice a difference.

[@Foxcolor]

@@threehoo I'm guessing it's because the 20% slow only applied to enemies in ambusher's range and not global like Mostima 15% slow
also because the slow was a small amount ?

[@ramadanikurniawan8541]

I always failed my run because of her😂

[@ipatchymakouli415]

If Ines slows him & the civilians, I'd assume Mostima talent + S3 slows aswell? And so, maybe they won't even go through the to par of the map... There's testing to be done.

[@threehoo]

mostima s3 slows both gardener and civilians to a screeching halt, however, i believe it will not affect pathing moreso than ines' talent. this video does not show it bc i let the run die, but the civvies end up in the path of a boulder-- mostima s3 wouldn't change this outcome due to gardener's checkpoints.

[@threehoo]

oh, though she affects how they cut across when near the red boxes, you will need to put a plank at the top-right hole in the grid.

[@HorusLuke]

He oversleep

[@argoskeas]

what's the problem?

[@threehoo]

i've pinned a comment explaining.