He's the only one who can play upside down pretty much but Eloy has done his training with a decade drumming for Sepultura he can only get better but Joey was one of a kind RIP
Jay is taking so much hate from the fan base right now. Everyone is on the Eloy train. Don’t get me wrong the guy is a prodigy. But I feel like Jay deserves a lot of credit for picking up where Joey left off. And I’m sure Eloy will do the same.
@Eirik36 They're starting to become insufferable. Acting like Eloy is the greatest thing to happen to the band. Completely disregarded the legacy that Joey and Jay had. Don't get me wrong, I've always liked Eloy. He makes Slipknot sound pretty good live! But it's starting to become toxic at this point. Dude doesn't even play with two single pedals, yet has four bass drums. Like come on man.
I got to see Joey do his famous solo with the rising platform back in the early 2000's. It was amazing. It was a small venue to so they were right in our face.
I do believe it is as much of a situation similar to having to pass the torch from The Rev. And now Eloy being the drummer makes me wonder how the band will progress in sound! So excited
First 3 albums of Slipknot are the best. I used to love them back in the day. I remember dancing like mad with my mates in my room to their songs.. geaat times.
LOL, technically (drumming technique) Eloy is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY BETTER than Joey, however, Joey created this style almost, so he is a very influential drummer, however Eloy can play ANYTHING, Joey was a great metal drummer, Eloy is a great MUSICIAN....
@@GeorgeeJunglee Yep, thats right. People are crazy seeing Eloy at Slipknot but they dont know that Slipknot songs its nothing compared to his ability and skills to play any genre and especially native Brazilian rhythms w metal.
Why only Joey? Why not Jay? Why selective outrage? Besides I'm 99% sure those 2'd be the dudes that wouldn't be offended by such a thing. Besides he puts respect on his name if you bothered to watch another 45 seconds.
we gotta stop with this "slipknot fires all their drummers" shit. Joey wasn't fired. he suffered from transverse myelitis and it made his playing extremely difficult towards the end of his time with the band. that's why he left. because of his health.
and if you do the same for Jay Whine-burg, you'll see how off time he was. Eloy is the biggest upgrade, ever. Easily as good as Joey, if not even better. Who knows how Joey would have been if he were still here and never had health issues but right now at this moment in time, Eloy is incredible.
I'm pretty sure there is a video about Eloy in the making from this channel. Its gonna talk about the same thing paraphrased over and over for like 15 mins or something. Haha
I spent the last 3 and a half years studying with Eloy Casagrande here in Brazil (I was his longest time student) and I'm sure he's more than the next Joey, he'll be the best ever.
Gabe this breakdown is fantastic!! I put down the kit years ago and picked it back up a few months ago as my hobby/therapy. I love the insights you are giving. It really helps the mental aspect of building my ability. A major take away from this one: who believes double kick is cheating?? Those folks are crazy.
As a guitarist this video is also motivating and really instructive because most of the stuff that has been talked in this video also apply to any musician.
Gabe, you are such a fabulous storyteller / video editor. Your videos are exceptional and incredibly engaging, I especially enjoy the hell out of your I Prevail POV tour videos but these are super fun & high value too. You inspire me to keep growing both as a musician and as a content creator. Fire!
I think that eloy is such a mystery to North American and European people, because they do not have the cultural baggage to understand the Latin American groove, such as the brazilian. Besides being a technical genius, he incorporates the brazilian rhythms with his metal drumming, last guy that did this was Igor Cavalera.
I'm not a drummer, but I've been a Slipknot fan since the beginning. I just wanted to say from a "life in general" standpoint, that I really appreciate the "What is this obstacle teaching me?" point of view. Bottom line, my life really sucks in a lot of ways. I have declined with my medical and mental issues in recent years and it's made every day frustrating and torturous. Being in a state of exhaustion all the time, it's difficult not to just feel angry and defeated all the time with every bad thing that happens, even small things. Or just not being able to do the simplest things on some days for my son and I. Though I'm sure it'll take a lot of practice, I really feel like if I can train myself to ask that basic question when I hit my barriers, it will assist me in working on my negative attitude and change my approach to life over time. So yeah, really great advice that pretty much applies to anything. Great video man, thanks a lot!
When Jay joined Slipknot for first time, everyone was complaining. He did at the end a very good job, he tried his best but never reached Joey level and power. However now that Slipknot joined Eloy, I havent seen any hate comment at all. This is it!! He is the One.
Your videos have helped me improve so much over the past year! Thanks so much, so glad you’re coming to Wichita with I Prevail! Definitely going to try to get tickets! ❤❤❤
Try and rate Dale Crover's drumming from '87 to '93. He's a drummer that never gets mentioned within the mainstream context. He was wild, super powerful, inventive. Pure magician with the drums. There's no one like him.
i’m not a drummer but an artist, & this video was still extremely beneficial and mostly everything will be kept in mind reclucid all platforms btw, gotta self plug
I dont think Jay did anything better than Joey. Nothing wrong with Jay, he was adequate and could play the parts...but I wouldn't say he did them any better. He was as average as a band as big as Slipknot could get away with. That Eloy tho...he is a beast, I have no doubt Slipknot got the most technically superior drummer they could find, probably the best in every single caregory out of the 3 drummers. We been following this drummer for many years now. I will always miss Joey RIP, he is in more than one way irreplaceable.
12:00 this is one of the main pillars of stoicism, to view bad things that happen to us not as unfortunate, as unlucky, as bad, but as an opportunity to grow, to learn and to toughen ourselves up.
been waiting for this video, the drummer of one of my favorite bands, making a video about drummers from my favorite band! going to see I prevail and slipknot this summer!
Slipknot is easily top 5 bands for me, Joey's drumming is insanely fun to listen to and play. If you guys have an E-kit, download Clone Hero ASAP, ton of good Slipknot songs on there to play
I never was a fan of slipknot. It had to with the drummers they’ve had. As a very young drummer I played Hispanic/Mexican genres with the family band. Then I heard Black Sabbath and a lot changed for my playing. IMHO Eloy’s playing is WORLDS beyond what slipknots prior drummers could try and do. I’m interested in what Eloy will do for slipknot. And now… I expect the haters who will disagree with my comment, to throw their hate. Aaaand go!!!
I dont play the drums for my band but this could apply to vocals and even guitar ot bass I think I need to send this to the band cause we all have something to learn from this
All these points are suitable for any hobby. Discipline, getting over the fear of failure, desire to improve your skills - you mentioned this very well. And what a good video I need to say🤌
Gah I miss Joey . I did like Jay , but Eloy seems like an epic fit, that first show that got posted the other day made me say WOW! I haven’t been that pumped for slipknot since Vol. 3
Eloy is the perfect fit for Slipknot, it’s his favorite band, he’s a powerhouse speed demon. The fact he played Heretic Anthem perfectly with the way SK plays with zero clicks is amazing in itself. I like Weinberg but Eloy imo is the perfect choice to take what ima refer to as the hot seat
New to the channel here! You are great man! I wish i had the money to get DBO Academy but for now i dont... :( But ur free lessons are great aswell! :D Will def. come back when i got the money for DBO! :) Thank you Gabe!
Totally different drummer, but I have mad respect for Gavin Harrison of Porcupine Tree. He applies all of these concepts and ideas that you noticed from Slipnot by times 100. His dynamics are insane. (Not comparing them. Prog rock vrs. nu-metal are not the same thing. Apples to oranges) But, your breakdown of their playing reminds me of why I love drummers like Portnoy, Harrison, and many others.
I haven’t played the drums before but I have played guitar for quite a while and would like to pick up the drums. Do you have any tips on what I should do?
he is a guitarist basically and turned to a drummer. he knows how to support the vocals with his drums. this makes the difference. he supports every vowel and ... the other thing i dont know the word... this makes the difference
We always did that in my bands. Play the set twice and it was extreme metal so was hard work, and the would do 2 hours of working on new stuff. It was hardwork and we did it twice a week and then went to 4 times a week. The set became easy live.
Been listening to slipknot since day one. The fact is all the drummers are good drummers no doubt. Joey was more than a drummer he was part of the drum set. The sticks were extensions of his arms he was the most smooth with it. He was the most animated with it. Joey was and is still and will be the best drummer slipknot has had. Jay and Eloy are great Jay played the drums but in my opinion had minimal personality. Eloy hes hitting those drums hard which is fine but I wanna hear that disturbed sounding drumming that comes with slipknots drums
Doing Singles that Fast is when you know youve reached the top. These guys are prodiges. If they were able to drum that fast after a short amount of time, then that explains everything. I cannot see these guys working on singles and doubles for years and years only to step up small notch. Their gifted. End of story.
The funny thing is that these guys prolly cant teach the drums effectively but they can play them. Id like to hear from their teachers. Who taught joey? At what point did joey stop lessons and KNOW that he reached THAT POINT?
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Imagine if Eric Moore was in Slipknot....😮
When “the impossible drumming of I Prevail” will be out? 😁🤘
exelet vidie
joeys “eyeless” performance will be remembered forever
That video of that perfomance was the first time i was like WHAAAAAT
He's the only one who can play upside down pretty much but Eloy has done his training with a decade drumming for Sepultura he can only get better but Joey was one of a kind RIP
Joey's headbanging while playing drums is so spectacular!!
Right! The way he did the windmill perfectly in sync with the music while playing was awesome
Jay is taking so much hate from the fan base right now. Everyone is on the Eloy train. Don’t get me wrong the guy is a prodigy. But I feel like Jay deserves a lot of credit for picking up where Joey left off. And I’m sure Eloy will do the same.
Couldn't agree more. People just wanna nit-pick.
That and slipknot fans will flip flop on a dime if needed..
I love how Eloy fanboys are talking about Jay not playing in tempo… dudes Joey was known for playing too fast live lol
That’s because he’s an asshole.
@Eirik36 They're starting to become insufferable. Acting like Eloy is the greatest thing to happen to the band. Completely disregarded the legacy that Joey and Jay had. Don't get me wrong, I've always liked Eloy. He makes Slipknot sound pretty good live! But it's starting to become toxic at this point. Dude doesn't even play with two single pedals, yet has four bass drums. Like come on man.
Having a Y in your name is also mandatory
Good point!
Cool observation 😁
must be last letter in first name
I have a Y in my name
My brother has a Y in his last name and he's a drummer so maybe he should audition for them 🤷🏻♀️🤣
I got to see Joey do his famous solo with the rising platform back in the early 2000's. It was amazing. It was a small venue to so they were right in our face.
Joey was a master of his craft and the one drummer that inspired me to pick up the sticks. May he rest in peace.
❤
The "you never stop learning" thing is true in every creative area, not only music. There's always a way to improve.
The slipknot drummer firing joke is nuts.💀
😅😅
@@DrumBeatsOnline Dont laugh its also disrespectful. RIP Joey.
@@marcusgarcia504take a joke.
@@nakathehyena9539 a joke needs humor. There was none there. Just a laughing emoji. Gtfoh.
@@marcusgarcia504You must ride the short bus
I do believe it is as much of a situation similar to having to pass the torch from The Rev. And now Eloy being the drummer makes me wonder how the band will progress in sound! So excited
I hear you! I think Eloy will crush it
First 3 albums of Slipknot are the best. I used to love them back in the day. I remember dancing like mad with my mates in my room to their songs.. geaat times.
Dude, you don't dance to Slipknot. You mosh..
Eloy is here, so old Slipknot is back
@@Muxik4knope, joey will always be joey. Eloy gave new but the old school Slipknot? Probably not.
@@johnmarkgamayot4434 Joey will never be replaced, and Eloy is giving a good moving forward for Slipknot and honoring his legacy.
They're all fantastic. Claiming otherwise is smallbrained
As a 12 year old metal head, Joey has inspired me to start playing the drums. I’m currently working on “Eyeless” and I’m 2 months in.
Great! ❤ Don't ever give up!❤🎉🎉🎉
Joey was something else back then man I’m sad he passed
How did he pass ?
I was expecting Eloy Casagrande in this video, he has the power and technique to be the next Joey.
Filmed this video before the news came out 😅
I’ll most likely do a full breakdown of Eloys drumming in a separate video!
LOL, technically (drumming technique) Eloy is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY BETTER than Joey, however, Joey created this style almost, so he is a very influential drummer, however Eloy can play ANYTHING, Joey was a great metal drummer, Eloy is a great MUSICIAN....
@@GeorgeeJunglee Yep, thats right. People are crazy seeing Eloy at Slipknot but they dont know that Slipknot songs its nothing compared to his ability and skills to play any genre and especially native Brazilian rhythms w metal.
Eloy has clearly been influenced by Joey in his playing as well. He's a huge maggot - his cover videos speak for themselves.
We can wait until we have more professional material. Make this kind of analizing with videos filmed only by cellphones will result in a poor video.
0:15 You need to put more respect on Joeys name instead of a ❌. SMH. RIP Joey!
Why only Joey? Why not Jay? Why selective outrage? Besides I'm 99% sure those 2'd be the dudes that wouldn't be offended by such a thing. Besides he puts respect on his name if you bothered to watch another 45 seconds.
Too real oml rip Joey and he wasn't fired, he left because he had a disease and knew he was gonna die
Finally someone who sees it. Joey's Chaos is what made him so amating. Especially on the debut album.
we gotta stop with this "slipknot fires all their drummers" shit. Joey wasn't fired. he suffered from transverse myelitis and it made his playing extremely difficult towards the end of his time with the band. that's why he left. because of his health.
Joey states in a interview that he world never leave Slipknot. They let him go in an email. Just like Jay
He was thru email
Someone didn't read up on their stuff...
I thought they sent a singing messenger to fire him or was that someone else
They fired him look at
The interview
One thing I noticed about Joey, if you slow down an isolated drum track of his when he was in slipknot, his beats are so groovy.
They really are....he never gets credit for that
and if you do the same for Jay Whine-burg, you'll see how off time he was. Eloy is the biggest upgrade, ever. Easily as good as Joey, if not even better. Who knows how Joey would have been if he were still here and never had health issues but right now at this moment in time, Eloy is incredible.
“The coolest parts are not always the best parts”.
Preach!
Dude you gotta make an “Eloy” video
💯
é do Brasil!
You’ve got it!!
I'm pretty sure there is a video about Eloy in the making from this channel. Its gonna talk about the same thing paraphrased over and over for like 15 mins or something. Haha
@@DrumBeatsOnlinewe’re looking forward to it!
I spent the last 3 and a half years studying with Eloy Casagrande here in Brazil (I was his longest time student) and I'm sure he's more than the next Joey, he'll be the best ever.
As a drummer and video editor, this video was SICK 💯🥁
Gabe this breakdown is fantastic!! I put down the kit years ago and picked it back up a few months ago as my hobby/therapy. I love the insights you are giving. It really helps the mental aspect of building my ability. A major take away from this one: who believes double kick is cheating?? Those folks are crazy.
So glad that you’ve gotten back into drumming! I’m happy to help!!
I’ve been hearing the “cheating” conversation for WAYYY too long.
As a guitarist this video is also motivating and really instructive because most of the stuff that has been talked in this video also apply to any musician.
Only someone who has never played a double pedal (or maybe drums) can say that « it’s cheating » 🤦♀️
Great video 😊
Joey. Always.
Watching him fill the slot of Lars at Download 2004 was fucking perfect.
They've all been fantastic. Not one has been weak and I love it
Petition to raise charges for snareslaughter ❤🥁
Bro. These videos do not apply only to drums. Any musician could learn from these valuable pieces of knowledge. I truly appreciate this channel
Joey just has this eerie aura about him and the way he moves/plays. I can't put my finger on it.
Gabe, you are such a fabulous storyteller / video editor. Your videos are exceptional and incredibly engaging, I especially enjoy the hell out of your I Prevail POV tour videos but these are super fun & high value too. You inspire me to keep growing both as a musician and as a content creator. Fire!
I really appreciate that. Thanks for the kind words my friend 🙏🏽
RIP drum head and drumsticks that gave their lives to make this video happen
this editing is off the charts!
THE POOR SNARE HEAD MAN
You're a master of artificially expanding the time and waffle of your videos.
honestly... your a great teacher... choosing the exact words..
Joey is the KING! P.S we see us in Hamburg Germany. Hope Brian recovers well and we rock the show for him
See you soon!
This actually opened my eyes and mind into exploring more into how to become Joey when I play, thank you Gabe!
This is the Video i was looking for for a long time 😃 thanks
I think that eloy is such a mystery to North American and European people, because they do not have the cultural baggage to understand the Latin American groove, such as the brazilian.
Besides being a technical genius, he incorporates the brazilian rhythms with his metal drumming, last guy that did this was Igor Cavalera.
These Videos are always super helpful!
The edition of this video is insane. Thanks for the info!
As a guitarist I take a lot of inspiration from your vids
I'm not a drummer, but I've been a Slipknot fan since the beginning. I just wanted to say from a "life in general" standpoint, that I really appreciate the "What is this obstacle teaching me?" point of view. Bottom line, my life really sucks in a lot of ways. I have declined with my medical and mental issues in recent years and it's made every day frustrating and torturous. Being in a state of exhaustion all the time, it's difficult not to just feel angry and defeated all the time with every bad thing that happens, even small things. Or just not being able to do the simplest things on some days for my son and I. Though I'm sure it'll take a lot of practice, I really feel like if I can train myself to ask that basic question when I hit my barriers, it will assist me in working on my negative attitude and change my approach to life over time. So yeah, really great advice that pretty much applies to anything. Great video man, thanks a lot!
Even as a vocalist this is super helpful for doing vocals
When Jay joined Slipknot for first time, everyone was complaining. He did at the end a very good job, he tried his best but never reached Joey level and power.
However now that Slipknot joined Eloy, I havent seen any hate comment at all. This is it!! He is the One.
He was a whiny bitch and a douchebag to work with, so couple that with his lack of control and inability to play the required parts, Jay sucked.
Hey! I love these deep dive videos into different drummers! Keep them coming!
It’s crazy that your channel is the one that inspires me the most to play, and i play guitar not drums😂😂
Haha that’s incredible
Your videos have helped me improve so much over the past year! Thanks so much, so glad you’re coming to Wichita with I Prevail! Definitely going to try to get tickets! ❤❤❤
Eloy vai salvar o Slipknot! Seu momento finalmente chegou!🙌🏻🇧🇷🥁
Love all around, So happy for Eloy.
Try and rate Dale Crover's drumming from '87 to '93. He's a drummer that never gets mentioned within the mainstream context.
He was wild, super powerful, inventive. Pure magician with the drums. There's no one like him.
i’m not a drummer but an artist, & this video was still extremely beneficial and mostly everything will be kept in mind
reclucid all platforms btw, gotta self plug
I dont think Jay did anything better than Joey. Nothing wrong with Jay, he was adequate and could play the parts...but I wouldn't say he did them any better. He was as average as a band as big as Slipknot could get away with. That Eloy tho...he is a beast, I have no doubt Slipknot got the most technically superior drummer they could find, probably the best in every single caregory out of the 3 drummers. We been following this drummer for many years now. I will always miss Joey RIP, he is in more than one way irreplaceable.
THE BEST LIVE DRUM SET UP FOR ME IS FROM SLIPKNOT LIVE DOWNLOAD 2009 WHEN JOEY USED TO PLAY THE RETRO SNARE AND IT WAS VERY DELIGHT.
i have been waiting for this one
Yes, we wanna see a Eloy breakdown.
BRO who edits your videos? so good!!!
12:00 this is one of the main pillars of stoicism, to view bad things that happen to us not as unfortunate, as unlucky, as bad, but as an opportunity to grow, to learn and to toughen ourselves up.
It's a reason Joey took his main inspiration from Norwegian Black Metal.
Drummers in this genre are just fucking insane on the kit
When you are getting old , really can't keep up with this issane speed and power.
All of them are geniuses
been waiting for this video, the drummer of one of my favorite bands, making a video about drummers from my favorite band! going to see I prevail and slipknot this summer!
I would have so much fun playing slipknot and I would do it so easily
Slipknot is easily top 5 bands for me, Joey's drumming is insanely fun to listen to and play. If you guys have an E-kit, download Clone Hero ASAP, ton of good Slipknot songs on there to play
Drummer of slipknot: this is too hard
El Estepario: hold my beer
No need that mofo can hold it himself and still drum the part
I never was a fan of slipknot. It had to with the drummers they’ve had. As a very young drummer I played Hispanic/Mexican genres with the family band. Then I heard Black Sabbath and a lot changed for my playing. IMHO Eloy’s playing is WORLDS beyond what slipknots prior drummers could try and do. I’m interested in what Eloy will do for slipknot. And now… I expect the haters who will disagree with my comment, to throw their hate. Aaaand go!!!
This is good, respectful to Slipknot drummers❤
I dont play the drums for my band but this could apply to vocals and even guitar ot bass I think I need to send this to the band cause we all have something to learn from this
All these points are suitable for any hobby. Discipline, getting over the fear of failure, desire to improve your skills - you mentioned this very well.
And what a good video I need to say🤌
Thank you. This was amazing insight
Incredible job😊
Eloy even plays samba-jazz!!! And it's not joke. There is video showing that! 😎
Gah I miss Joey . I did like Jay , but Eloy seems like an epic fit, that first show that got posted the other day made me say WOW! I haven’t been that pumped for slipknot since Vol. 3
Eloy is the perfect fit for Slipknot, it’s his favorite band, he’s a powerhouse speed demon. The fact he played Heretic Anthem perfectly with the way SK plays with zero clicks is amazing in itself. I like Weinberg but Eloy imo is the perfect choice to take what ima refer to as the hot seat
The lessons learned about this video can be used for anything
Thx for doing this video. Can we do Patrick Galente next?
I’m wondering on which technique did Slipknot used that let them to join Eloy’s band?
woooooow,finally about Slipknot drummer 🤘🤘🤘
Can't wait to see you guys for the first time when you come to Australia in September.
I have completely NO business to be in this video - I LEARNT MUCH MORE THAN I SHOULD HAVE. (Complete cheers to 02:08 - INCREDIBLE.)
Yes, a video about Eloy is a MUST.
I gotchu
RIP joey! he will always be my favorite drummer :) i just realised casagrande means big home lol
i love your band I prevail you are my favourite drummer and i love song Gasoline and more of stuffs from you you are absolutely legend
New to the channel here!
You are great man! I wish i had the money to get DBO Academy but for now i dont... :( But ur free lessons are great aswell! :D Will def. come back when i got the money for DBO! :)
Thank you Gabe!
Fundamentals, musical awareness, strength
Totally different drummer, but I have mad respect for Gavin Harrison of Porcupine Tree. He applies all of these concepts and ideas that you noticed from Slipnot by times 100. His dynamics are insane. (Not comparing them. Prog rock vrs. nu-metal are not the same thing. Apples to oranges) But, your breakdown of their playing reminds me of why I love drummers like Portnoy, Harrison, and many others.
Should do a video like this for KoRn's drummers David Silveria and Ray Luzier!!
You're I Prevail's drummer? I saw you live, you're crazy dude!
Great content!
I haven’t played the drums before but I have played guitar for quite a while and would like to pick up the drums. Do you have any tips on what I should do?
Joey suonò tanti anni nella Band, e lo faceva con passione 😭😭
We miss you joey !
he is a guitarist basically and turned to a drummer. he knows how to support the vocals with his drums. this makes the difference. he supports every vowel and ... the other thing i dont know the word... this makes the difference
We always did that in my bands. Play the set twice and it was extreme metal so was hard work, and the would do 2 hours of working on new stuff. It was hardwork and we did it twice a week and then went to 4 times a week. The set became easy live.
Been listening to slipknot since day one. The fact is all the drummers are good drummers no doubt. Joey was more than a drummer he was part of the drum set. The sticks were extensions of his arms he was the most smooth with it. He was the most animated with it. Joey was and is still and will be the best drummer slipknot has had. Jay and Eloy are great Jay played the drums but in my opinion had minimal personality. Eloy hes hitting those drums hard which is fine but I wanna hear that disturbed sounding drumming that comes with slipknots drums
Facts. Great video🤘🏼
Great lesson ! 🥁 🪘 🛢
I love how travis always asks you for advice 🤣❤
I miss Joey, may he rest in Peace
Doing Singles that Fast is when you know youve reached the top. These guys are prodiges. If they were able to drum that fast after a short amount of time, then that explains everything. I cannot see these guys working on singles and doubles for years and years only to step up small notch. Their gifted. End of story.
The funny thing is that these guys prolly cant teach the drums effectively but they can play them. Id like to hear from their teachers. Who taught joey? At what point did joey stop lessons and KNOW that he reached THAT POINT?