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I agree the warhead itself is the weight of a man iirc or was it at least 40kgs projectile mass. That's not counting the mass of the propellant charge after loading the shell because of how much explosive you need to back it up with to launch that thing at that velocity due to its mass
To be fair, they were putting a 183-mm cannon, which would have fit well on a FRIGATE, on a Centurion chassis. Considering how far back this contraption could shoot from, being eleven feet tall isn't that big an issue. And who sez the rounds had to HIT their target! I'll bet if they detonated within 10 yards, they'd upend even those Soviet JS beasts!
Stereotypically, most British inventions throuout history were designed and built by 3 guys in a shed. The FV4005 is when those 3 guys decided to weaponize their shed.
@@MegaBIGJOE64 “Hey have you every thought how since the battlefield is the ultimate test for war machines What if we designed the tanks on the battlefield so we can see what’s going on?” “GENIUS”
@@TheDaltonius Using your brain MAY help in the creation of a weapon platform BEFORE creating it only to find you created a big FLAWED pile of metal. I suggest you use you brain too BEFORE responding to comments if you can.
@@Maritimesgestein The japanese actually did build an armored vehicle with a (light) naval gun in WW2. Of course they did that because it was meant to support naval infantry and the army fought tooth and nail against the navy being assigned any part of their gun production so they ended up trying to fit a 12cm naval gun on a tank chassis.
10 7.5 inch guns were mounted on armoured cruisers as secondary armament with the main guns being 9.2 inch. Really makes you appreciate how big warships were back then.
WoT: Due to balancing reasons, HESH functions as an HE. Also WoT: Does zero damage on splash, zero damage on tracks, zero damage on spaced armor, zero damage on turret, occasionally 1-shots things for no reason.
@@homelessEh I enjoyed at least 5 years of High Explosive ammo at its zenith. And now that WoT ruined it to cater to their elitist 1% I am happy to retire.
I love how the British just slap "quick firing" on absolutely every gun they make. If they made a gun that was slower to fire than a German railway gun, they would still call it quick firing
In this context "quick-firing" refers to a gun that is both breech-loading and that encases the propellant charge in a metal case. The term came about in the 1880s when those features on naval guns were rare and there's never been a reason to get rid of the term.
@@xenopug6390 I don't see the reason to continue using the term. Why not just simplify the nomenclature since the term applies to every single weapon the British military uses and has used for more than 100 years now?
T110e3 *laughs in draining all the good ammo in the game* Grille 15 *cries in being a disappointment* Borsig Waffenträger *laughs in tier 10 derp gun at tier 8*
The British : We need a new tank destroyer. Clearly a Royal Navy Engineer : Let's take a turret from a destroyer and put it on a tank chassis. There, tank-destroyer ! The British : Who gave this man too much rum ?
Don't tell me, let me guess..."Captain...Jack Sparrow...the new development head of the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers"! At least we'd know the REASON the rum was GONE.
I saw this tank at Bovington a few years ago. We were already on our way out when I spotted this Monstrum at the exit. Having played it in WOT for quite I bit I of course knew right away what it was, but I was very suprised to see it actually existed. For how ridiculous it was I always just assumed it was a concept Tank like the WT auf E100, a concept some designer thought up that never left the paper he drew it on. My dad had to stop the car and I went to take a closer look. Not touching the biggest Tank gun to ever exist, when it was right there, was no option of course.
152mm, sloped at 60⁰, at 2000 yards... The Brits basically said, "You've got a pretty big hammer Ivan, but mine's bigger." when they designed this gun. Looking at tanks like the IS-7, I'd say the aforementioned requirements were fair.
Do you mean guns mounted to face backwards or turrets mounted on the back of the tank, cause theirs more than 2 tanks the British made with back mounted turrets
You need the rotating turret to stop shrapnel, and it needs to rotate to free up the engine deck for repairs. It obviously won't fit in the hull, so there is no other way.
I honestly find British tanks to be more interesting then most because they went from a pt boat with tracks and 75mm guns to the challenger 2 the big ass modern day mbt
What's amazing is with all the crappy designs they went through, and had to greatly supplement their tank park with the American-built M4 Shermans, that type being the most common British AFV of WWII, and right at the end they come up with the excellent Comet and just as the war is wrapping up, the CENTURION. I'd like to see a WoT hypothetical matchup between the Centurion, with either the 17-pounder or the 20-pounder tank guns, going up against "Panzerwaffe 46".
@@TheSchultinator Yeah, HMS Vangard, Britain's last battleship was orignially designed to take 406mm guns but 'downsized' to 381mm guns. At that point you don't even need ammunition to kill someone, just the threat alone could do it.
@@CrusaderSports250 'Some Battleships' you mean the Yamato, it's sister ship Mushashi and HMS Furious which had the biggest guns ever mounted on a battleship? Britain only built 3 18 inch naval guns which ended up on monitors to bombarded land targets (they never saw combat with HMS Furious) as well as 5 18-inch railway guns (Howitzers) and the Americans only ever built 2 18 inch naval guns as protoypes before dismissing them for being both unreliable and expensive to maintain; US tests estimated a lifetime of 45 shots for their 18 incher, which is a real flaw when you have to train to your crew or bring your flagship ship back after every skirmish because it needs it's main guns replaced. 16inch guns were superior, which is why everyone who could afford them used them (not counting Japan catching 'Maus' fever from the Nazis).
@@Neion8 thank you for your reply, I know the guns had a limited life, it was a problem for all the. Siege guns, some even had numbered shells to account for bore wear, with 45 shots what shots they would have been. With modern metallurgical developments we could probably overcomes the problems, but with missiles we unfortunately don't need to, battleships mounting twenty four or thirty inch guns would be awesome and terrifying at the same time, and with automation you could reduce the crew to a few dozens. Admittedly no one could afford them but in another world I am sure they ply the sea's☺.
"It was not intended for the front line." But that is where you find the enemy tanks. If you find them anywhere else, then congratulations, that is now the front line!
They would basically shoot from outside of the enemy tanks range, blow up an entire battalion of IS-3s with a single shot from a platoon of Centaurs, and then scoot back another 5km, set up the net again, and repeat.
@@Orinslayer What scooting? With THAT tank?!? XD Those concepts never survived actual combat - just like the M10 Wolverine of WW2 were in the end used just like tanks and therefore always lacked armour sorely. You need speed if you are lacking armour, like the M18 Hellcat. Don't see a FV4005 speeding anywhere. ^^
The last remaining 4005, is being redone, chassis and turret in co- operation with Bovington and Mr. Hewes. With MK-3 centurion chassis, rebuilt engine and transmission, drive train and everything else, in 2024.
I feel the spirit of the TOG project haunting this project. It's a big artillery gun on tracks with a high silhouette easily spotted by enemy tanks. Any T-70 would charge at it and kill the crew in a wink of an eye.
They were on to something, though. Just replace the tank gun with a howitzer and they’d have had a decent self propelled gun. All of it’s drawbacks as a tank would suddenly not be an issue.
Just use the heavy tank chassis so the turret can have more armor and not look like something made of scrapyard parts. Who cares if you weigh 70 tons. You're going to be shooting hot mix tapes with the sniper tanks anyway, and actually have a rammer that isn't some dude with a stick.
@@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537probably because heavy tanks are engineering and logistical nightmare? Look at jagdtiger, ferdinant and King tiger. Gun that could obliterate twnks with one hit. Yet they were flawed because of their heaviness. The british made a good choice here
@@Rexus0705 Let me guess, the 2TES is a heckin baste MBT-erino™? I appreciate the historical bias fish and chips at the bait shop, but the Brits fumbled the bag, simple as. Conqueror was the much more ideal platform that could handle it and be future proofed as the heavy gun platform. Cent was too anemic of a platform, and the next tank to enter service unironically made it an even bigger testicle bag fumble that kept on giving, the Chieftain. Britain dropped bags like they walked under 1776 ladders and couldn't stop whiffing the slow pitch at Boston t-ball with a cricket bat.
The vehicle makes me think of coastal artillery. Having one of these trundling between 3 or 4 fortified concrete emplacements might have been viable at that point in history.
@@ak_nora I would also like to add that our version has a Unique Consumable only related to it, it's essentially an Adrenaline Boost for the Auto-Loader which I assume is the Two Loaders shoving Extra Two Piece Ammo in the Sequence
@@r.u.s.e3586 no, we're talking about this big barn, which has 183mm in WT and WoT PC, but not in WoT Blitz. We were never taking about the Death Star, it's still in game, just not the topic here.
For an obsolete design, I sure see a lot of these on the virtual battlefield; and I don't like going up against them, thats for sure. Interesting video. Also, I just noticed that QB posted a video with a FV4005 delivering over 14k damage in WOT. Impressive!
Watching “we were soldiers” and 1 hour and 2 minutes in someone said “one shot one kill” at the exact same time this notification popped down on my screen
They definitely need to bring it inside, last time I saw it the rear of the turret had rusted through in places. also they should do a reunion with that last remaining kv2
Worth noting and clarifying: FV4005 wasn't created because Conqueror *couldn't* penetrate IS-3, but that MoD wasn't *certain* if it could, and as such; made FV4005.
I'm happy that Bovington has announced they're going to undergo restoring their FV4005 including getting the turret fitted onto a more accurate hull iirc. I think I remember it's even supposed to get restored to join the rolling stock so might see it trundling about the arena at Tankfest someday!
You can see the restoration on the Mr Hewes you tube channel, being restored to as new with fully functioning running gear. They supposed have the drawings for the blade so will be recreating that too. Built by a couple of blokes in a shed, and restored by a different couple of blokes in a shed.
Basically, this tank looks like the brits took a naval gun from their ships and placed it on a hull of a tank, painted it green and placed it in combat
In wot, there is no scarier thing that seeing this tank staring at you, its a fricken bonechilling feel to know that its gun most likely will oneshot you.
Fun fact the tank itself was designed by the auster aircraft company and the turret itself was made by Chubbs ( A safemaker from Wolverhampton) from what ive heard over the years is that the FV005 was meant as a supporting tank firing over the chieftains, incase of a soviet invasion which was a real concern back then
Depends how you define biggest. The 152mm gun rocket launcher was the biggest calibre to enter service as a true tank gun. Bigger weapons were SPG or specialist types.
Seeing that the Leclerc T4 Terminateur, has seen development as of recent of 2017 with a new experimental camoflague, that could be soon to change. Lets hope, eh? Probably what Cone was on about, a simple mistake.
For those who didn't know how the british tested their vehicles, this one especially. They would put bunnies inside of the tanks they'd shoot as a Result of "Impact damage" for a crew, when they used a Comet I it was simple, when they used this FV4005, the shell had bounced, so they checked the inside and there was no Rabbit, only a mess of red goop EVERYWHERE
I loved seeing this gloriously massive prototype at Bovington, but I do really really hope they find a space inside for it, as sadly large portions of the skirting are rusting away, and she could do with a nice amount of restoration again. Fingers crossed, because it’s a beautiful piece of history.
Hi! Awesome update at the end of the year of our Lord 2023: WoT and TTM partnered with legendary TH-camr (oh, and tank restorer) Mr. Hewes to remount the turret on the correct chassis and have it running for Tankfest 2024!
@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 I believe he said that the reason they even put the turret and huge box on there was to protect against artillery shrapnel
@@TheriCTheri yeh he did say that but I think this vehicle could have been more feasible if they'd have made it similar to the German tank destroyers like the hertzer or stug.
@@TheriCTheri they should have mounted the gun directly to the top of the Hull to keep the height profile down and used hydraulic suspension to raise and lower the whole vehicle to achieve gun elevation like the Stridsvagn 103C.
The British were on those good "tea" when they thought something like this would be good. Although I do have this thing in World of tanks and I have done the unspeakable. But with the reason nerf to HE and HESH now act like HE. It lost most of its charm.
"you call me a fat old tank ... but i want to be so much more... I WANT TO BE ... A CRUISER! A LAND CRUISER!" Now load the depth charge launcher there must be a U-Bahn here somewhere!
Love your videos fam. It's rare to see anyone talking about tanks outside of the common few that everyone knows. Hopefully one day we can get a video on the Tortise Tank Destroyer. Keep up the good work.
The fv4005 is currently being rebuilt by the TH-cam and tank rebuilders MrHewes, its the same tank that you show at the beginning, from the British Tank Museum, rather its the same turret being put on to the correct bottom bit.
So what I've learned.... is that they tried to make self-propelled artillery..... but worse- I bet a armored double special 127mm howitzer on a MBT chassis towing an ammunition wagon behind it would be more effective
Should have added the 183mm gun as an extra researchable module *smh* We need more than 2 Derp Tanks in British line. Or if Wargaming is greedy, they should make it a Tier 10 premium.
@@moisesezequielgutierrez the thing is, if you put the 183mm gun onto FV 4005, that would completely defeat the purpose of the FV 215b 183 line tech tree since the 4005 is easier to grind, and not fair to those who own the 183
@@chooyongming110 the FV4005 is also much faster, so with the small maps WoTB has, the FV4005 could easily run around the small hills and slap you for 1.4k.
This is literally in every sense of the word, a glass cannon. It was definitely a one shot one kill, but that phrase goes both ways with it. I’d be pissin myself if my commander told me we were going against a well hidden 4005
Except the fact that Sprocket, a game with a single person developing it, has better traction physics when it comes to trenches and suspension in general.
War thunder tank physics: *phases into the ground and instantly jumps back out* World of Tanks tank physics: *tank rolls over after driving over a tiny rock*
@@ancientwarrior3482 That War Thunder example is a server issue, not a physics issue. The physics engine can't keep up with where the tank is sometimes
@@StalledAgate832 Yes, Sprocket, the game where literally every single tank compresses its own road wheels so bad it can barely move, because the only suspension it has is butter
What I like the most about IS-3 debuting on Victory Parade in Berlin is that T-44 wasn't shown. And later on, reworked, upgunned and uparmored it turned into T-54 aka main force behind soviet ground forces armored fist. So it ended up being an unintentional misdirection on soviet part. Otherwise Allies/NATO might have instead pursued the upgunned medium tank projects that would see medium tanks comparable to T-54 being the main focus of development efforts. Uparmored Centurion with 32-pounder and Caernavorn drive train? M26E1 with streamlined hull front, long 90mm and T32 drive train? Basically do what soviets did to T-44 to get T-54 instead of waiting for M48.
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Cone with a 0 so you mean like this "C0ne"
lol wot is not a game where u honestly test how the tanks were wt is the best bet even then its still not even close to being accurate
wot is very very bad. Demerit for promoting it.
Intro good
Most tank crews: *squeezing through tiny hatches*
FV4005 crews: *have a LITERAL door they can use to WALK into their turret.*
A throwback feature to the WWI British Mark IV tanks.
i mean paramedics would need a bigger entryway to evacuate the loaders after having their backs pulverized by handling 183mm shells all day
Lmao
I agree the warhead itself is the weight of a man iirc or was it at least 40kgs projectile mass.
That's not counting the mass of the propellant charge after loading the shell because of how much explosive you need to back it up with to launch that thing at that velocity due to its mass
"Oh bugger, the tank is on fire!"
You know your tank is cursed when the turret hatch is actually a normal sized door
Not even the Sturmtiger had such a big door, and I mean... look at it.
To be fair, they were putting a 183-mm cannon, which would have fit well on a FRIGATE, on a Centurion chassis. Considering how far back this contraption could shoot from, being eleven feet tall isn't that big an issue. And who sez the rounds had to HIT their target! I'll bet if they detonated within 10 yards, they'd upend even those Soviet JS beasts!
@@diegorincon4673 *crawls through barrel*
Armed privy on tracks
A yes, the Shitbarn. The turret armor is basically only there so that the Commander doesnt get rain into his tea
@Pretorian 01 what about the machine gun?
@@idontwantanysubscribers1157 What is a machine gun?
"Only"? That's what armour is for!
@@Del_S PeppoLove
This design is terrible. Why didn't they do away with the turret and make it a tank destroyer with the gun fixed in the Hull
Stereotypically, most British inventions throuout history were designed and built by 3 guys in a shed.
The FV4005 is when those 3 guys decided to weaponize their shed.
😂😂😂😂
The gun they made could not be remove from the shed, they put armour on the shed and thrown on a chassis.
@@MegaBIGJOE64
“Hey have you every thought how since the battlefield is the ultimate test for war machines
What if we designed the tanks on the battlefield so we can see what’s going on?”
“GENIUS”
@@TheDaltonius Using your brain MAY help in the creation of a weapon platform BEFORE creating it only to find you created a big FLAWED pile of metal. I suggest you use you brain too BEFORE responding to comments if you can.
@@MegaBIGJOE64 Calm it dude shit's funny.
“Sir, the 165 pounder won’t fit!”
Stick it in sideways!
Ah, I see you are a man of culture as well 😏
The last loader broke his back!
*GET ANOTHER ONE*
@@fraser9580 "The engine's no good!"
Shave the armor off the turret; if rain can't dent it, it's not thin enough!
@@nibs7252 **Proceeds to put toilet paper as armor**
"Put the radio above the kettle so it doesn't get wet"
@@nibs7252 no, get 5 car engines and put em together
“Well if the Soviets can’t hit the broadside of a barn, let’s put the broadside of a barn on a bloody tank!”
- Early Cold War British tank geniuses
You must admit, their reasoning was sound.
Both FV4005s was the British “just put the largest gun you have in it” attempt
More On than In. Like the KV-2
They should have just put one of there battleshipguns on it.
Bri*ish
@@Maritimesgestein ah yes,the 305mm mk X naval gun from HMS Agincourt ontop of the Fv-200 hull
@@Maritimesgestein The japanese actually did build an armored vehicle with a (light) naval gun in WW2. Of course they did that because it was meant to support naval infantry and the army fought tooth and nail against the navy being assigned any part of their gun production so they ended up trying to fit a 12cm naval gun on a tank chassis.
The British really went back to their naval roots for this vehicle and put what is essentially a heavy cruiser gun on a tank
Exactly
10 7.5 inch guns were mounted on armoured cruisers as secondary armament with the main guns being 9.2 inch. Really makes you appreciate how big warships were back then.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL_7.2-inch_howitzer
Yeah, the navy was already using 190mm, and 203mm guns, why did they choose this old thing?
@@Orinslayer because they needed the FV to still be there afterwards
@@marshmellominiapple Instead of in the next postal code? Nonsense.
WoT: Due to balancing reasons, HESH functions as an HE.
Also WoT: Does zero damage on splash, zero damage on tracks, zero damage on spaced armor, zero damage on turret, occasionally 1-shots things for no reason.
In WoTB this tank have autoloader
@@Kiefiron but thank God this thing only has the 120mm gun
everything is hesh now actualy
@@homelessEh I enjoyed at least 5 years of High Explosive ammo at its zenith. And now that WoT ruined it to cater to their elitist 1% I am happy to retire.
@@bigmac3373 its actually 123mm....
I love how the British just slap "quick firing" on absolutely every gun they make. If they made a gun that was slower to fire than a German railway gun, they would still call it quick firing
In this context "quick-firing" refers to a gun that is both breech-loading and that encases the propellant charge in a metal case. The term came about in the 1880s when those features on naval guns were rare and there's never been a reason to get rid of the term.
@@xenopug6390 Extremely interesting, sent me down a cool rabbit hole. Thanks for the explanation!
"Shell goes fast = quick firing" logic
Meanwhile WoTB: Quick firing? You mean bs 3 seconds reloads?
@@xenopug6390 I don't see the reason to continue using the term. Why not just simplify the nomenclature since the term applies to every single weapon the British military uses and has used for more than 100 years now?
Kv2 :I am fridge
Fv4005: I am bigger fridge
You falls
What did you say punk
Su 100y You falls I’m the bigger fridge
Its not a fridge, its british, so its a tea kettle.
Vodka fridge and tea fridge
It's a barn goddamn it...
Not fridge, barn
КВ-2: "The Soviet Fridge"
FV-4005: "The Bri'ish Fridg'"
СУ-100Y: "Привет comrades, I'm fixed fridge"
MS-1: I AM GOD
MAUS: *"Haha, I'm in Danger."*
TKS 20 better
T110e3 *laughs in draining all the good ammo in the game*
Grille 15 *cries in being a disappointment*
Borsig Waffenträger *laughs in tier 10 derp gun at tier 8*
@@stagiergnome6122 broken down because the suspension couldn't handle the morbidly obese bunker on tracks*
A curse design indeed.
*The one and only, the legendady:*
*The MIGHTYYYYYYYY..... SHITBARN* :D
Mmmmm yes, lo and behold....
*The shitbarn.*
Russian death fridge: Finally! a worthy opponent, Our battle will be legendary.
HESH IS BESH
I find it terribly ironic that the gun has QF (Quick-Firing) in the designation, when it's reload rate is akin to the abominable Sturmtiger.
No, fv215b 183
The British : We need a new tank destroyer.
Clearly a Royal Navy Engineer : Let's take a turret from a destroyer and put it on a tank chassis. There, tank-destroyer !
The British : Who gave this man too much rum ?
where's all the Rum gone ?
Give him more rum, those are the kinds of ideas we need.
Don't tell me, let me guess..."Captain...Jack Sparrow...the new development head of the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers"! At least we'd know the REASON the rum was GONE.
(heavy cruiser gun actually)
Destroyer? That guns almost 8-inches. That's a heavy cruiser gun, my fellow.
I saw this tank at Bovington a few years ago. We were already on our way out when I spotted this Monstrum at the exit. Having played it in WOT for quite I bit I of course knew right away what it was, but I was very suprised to see it actually existed. For how ridiculous it was I always just assumed it was a concept Tank like the WT auf E100, a concept some designer thought up that never left the paper he drew it on.
My dad had to stop the car and I went to take a closer look. Not touching the biggest Tank gun to ever exist, when it was right there, was no option of course.
Right there with you my friend, went to bovington and ended up seeing this behemoth of a tank as well
Similar story to myself. I only saw it as I had to walk out the back gate to catch a shuttle bus to back the train station.
wt auf e100 be killing a t10 with 1 mag
Yeah, sad thing that 60 tp doesnt exist in reality
WT auf e 100 was never a concept it was entirely fictional except for the e 100 hull
152mm, sloped at 60⁰, at 2000 yards... The Brits basically said, "You've got a pretty big hammer Ivan, but mine's bigger." when they designed this gun. Looking at tanks like the IS-7, I'd say the aforementioned requirements were fair.
When you absolutely, positively have to kill an IS-3 from any range, at any angle, and with any hit; the L4, accept no substitutes.
Shoots through a KV-2 gun at a 60° angle
N@ZIS : YOU RELISE THIS WAS MY IDEA...
Alright, I have to say it, WT's derpbarn functions much better than WOT's.
Agreed, except when you shoot the side of a tank and some how only take off the tracks and now have to wait an eternity to reload
@@claytonkuhlmann1341 now that is true pain
Meh nah
I can smell the sweat puddle from here
It’s a mechanized barn house
if i had a nickel for every time the brits made a rear mounted gun i would have two nickels, which isnt a lot but its weird that it happened twice
Do you mean guns mounted to face backwards or turrets mounted on the back of the tank, cause theirs more than 2 tanks the British made with back mounted turrets
@@malcolmeaston5639 I'm assuming he means tanks with guns that face the rear of the vehicle, like the Archer for instance.
@@pestisthebestspaghettikeys6944 i always assumed they designed the archer for france so they can defend themself when running away
@@lukasvondaheim Hard not to when the people you're defending basically give up and you're left to fight nazi Germany without any aid
@@lukasvondaheim no the French and Italian's had the copyright on that particular movement throughout the entirety of the war
Ah the British KV2 as I like to call it, the most terrifying tank to encounter in WT.
one very important question is it looking at us? ( :
@@jackroberts572 I think so- *Crew knockout* Bri'ishplayer (FV4005)
@@halfmemes4686 "Gotcha!"
@@halfmemes4686 nah, I get *Ammo Exploded* on ya instead. I much prefer smackin kitties with the Boomstick.
Casper the ghost on the 50 cal: "Imma go ahead and reset that reload before I kill you."
"We can only fire the gun in a narrow arc parallel to the tracks." "Give it a rotating turret anyway."
Ehh why not add some cardboard armor to keep out the rain
You need the rotating turret to stop shrapnel, and it needs to rotate to free up the engine deck for repairs. It obviously won't fit in the hull, so there is no other way.
"Soviet creation"
I fucking *KNEW* IT ALWAYS LOOKED LIKE A KV-2
And the SU100Y Box Tank
Extended barrel KV2, or sawed off Shitbarn
@@ScarLetBZero Sawn Off Shitbarn:
> scatter HE
> -buckshit- buckshot
@@spaceinaspace8452 TD is not a tank
@@666zombee You're wrong and also nobody cares
"Use a gun and if that don't work use more gun"
-The designers of the FV4005 probably
More like designers of M50 Ontos
The Engineer.
I honestly find British tanks to be more interesting then most because they went from a pt boat with tracks and 75mm guns to the challenger 2 the big ass modern day mbt
And now the Challenger 3
Well said
What's amazing is with all the crappy designs they went through, and had to greatly supplement their tank park with the American-built M4 Shermans, that type being the most common British AFV of WWII, and right at the end they come up with the excellent Comet and just as the war is wrapping up, the CENTURION. I'd like to see a WoT hypothetical matchup between the Centurion, with either the 17-pounder or the 20-pounder tank guns, going up against "Panzerwaffe 46".
The benefit of screwing up on a regular basis is that you learn what *not* to do.
The Valiant Tank is a thing of special infamy.
@@gingergorilla695 aw shit I forgot about that one thanks for the reminder
The FV4005, for those times when you must have your battleship gun on the battlefield.
This ain't no battleship gun, this is somewhere between light and heavy cruiser armament. Naval artillery gets ridiculously huge.
@@TheSchultinator Yeah, HMS Vangard, Britain's last battleship was orignially designed to take 406mm guns but 'downsized' to 381mm guns. At that point you don't even need ammunition to kill someone, just the threat alone could do it.
@@Neion8 406mm is only 16inch, a bit weedy compared to an 18 inch as used on some battleships.
@@CrusaderSports250 'Some Battleships' you mean the Yamato, it's sister ship Mushashi and HMS Furious which had the biggest guns ever mounted on a battleship?
Britain only built 3 18 inch naval guns which ended up on monitors to bombarded land targets (they never saw combat with HMS Furious) as well as 5 18-inch railway guns (Howitzers) and the Americans only ever built 2 18 inch naval guns as protoypes before dismissing them for being both unreliable and expensive to maintain; US tests estimated a lifetime of 45 shots for their 18 incher, which is a real flaw when you have to train to your crew or bring your flagship ship back after every skirmish because it needs it's main guns replaced.
16inch guns were superior, which is why everyone who could afford them used them (not counting Japan catching 'Maus' fever from the Nazis).
@@Neion8 thank you for your reply, I know the guns had a limited life, it was a problem for all the. Siege guns, some even had numbered shells to account for bore wear, with 45 shots what shots they would have been.
With modern metallurgical developments we could probably overcomes the problems, but with missiles we unfortunately don't need to, battleships mounting twenty four or thirty inch guns would be awesome and terrifying at the same time, and with automation you could reduce the crew to a few dozens.
Admittedly no one could afford them but in another world I am sure they ply the sea's☺.
"It was not intended for the front line."
But that is where you find the enemy tanks. If you find them anywhere else, then congratulations, that is now the front line!
When you have a 183mm main gun, it turns out you can have a shouting match with the front line from whatever line you want.
They would basically shoot from outside of the enemy tanks range, blow up an entire battalion of IS-3s with a single shot from a platoon of Centaurs, and then scoot back another 5km, set up the net again, and repeat.
I mean hes not wrong
@@Orinslayer What scooting? With THAT tank?!? XD
Those concepts never survived actual combat - just like the M10 Wolverine of WW2 were in the end used just like tanks and therefore always lacked armour sorely. You need speed if you are lacking armour, like the M18 Hellcat. Don't see a FV4005 speeding anywhere. ^^
@@Orinslayer Sounds great for fighting in the desert, but horrible for everywhere else.
The last remaining 4005, is being redone, chassis and turret in co- operation with Bovington and Mr. Hewes. With MK-3 centurion chassis, rebuilt engine and transmission, drive train and everything else, in 2024.
The only tank with a full-size man door to enter the “turret”
At least one of its designers must have seen a KV2 and thought: "Ooh, I like the look of that!"
I feel the spirit of the TOG project haunting this project. It's a big artillery gun on tracks with a high silhouette easily spotted by enemy tanks. Any T-70 would charge at it and kill the crew in a wink of an eye.
the long boi TOG II was quite memorable in WOT…
I think it falls into the old TD concept. It's basically a self propelled anti-tank gun.
Really? T70 doesn't lose accuracy on the move? Will agree on T70 all around a better weapon.
So this turret is being put on an accurately restored hull by Mr.Hewes, will be at tankfest this year.
and is looking class A !
They were on to something, though. Just replace the tank gun with a howitzer and they’d have had a decent self propelled gun. All of it’s drawbacks as a tank would suddenly not be an issue.
Just use the heavy tank chassis so the turret can have more armor and not look like something made of scrapyard parts. Who cares if you weigh 70 tons. You're going to be shooting hot mix tapes with the sniper tanks anyway, and actually have a rammer that isn't some dude with a stick.
@@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537probably because heavy tanks are engineering and logistical nightmare? Look at jagdtiger, ferdinant and King tiger. Gun that could obliterate twnks with one hit. Yet they were flawed because of their heaviness. The british made a good choice here
@@Rexus0705 Let me guess, the 2TES is a heckin baste MBT-erino™?
I appreciate the historical bias fish and chips at the bait shop, but the Brits fumbled the bag, simple as. Conqueror was the much more ideal platform that could handle it and be future proofed as the heavy gun platform. Cent was too anemic of a platform, and the next tank to enter service unironically made it an even bigger testicle bag fumble that kept on giving, the Chieftain. Britain dropped bags like they walked under 1776 ladders and couldn't stop whiffing the slow pitch at Boston t-ball with a cricket bat.
The vehicle makes me think of coastal artillery. Having one of these trundling between 3 or 4 fortified concrete emplacements might have been viable at that point in history.
Literally my most used, and best tank in War Thunder. I wish i had one in my back garden.
As a player of wot and a free to play player with tier ten tanks I recommend you play warthunder
and if you are a war thunder player i recommend you play enlisted
I am already lol
in World of Tanks Blitz we sadly don't have the 183mm, we have the Conway's 123mm with an auto-loading system
I'd imagine the mechanical loader was the basis for the autoloading mechanism ingame, which is interesting imo
@@ak_nora I would also like to add that our version has a Unique Consumable only related to it, it's essentially an Adrenaline Boost for the Auto-Loader which I assume is the Two Loaders shoving Extra Two Piece Ammo in the Sequence
Conway haves the 120mm L1A1, the gun used in the 4005 is the autoloader version of the 123mm of Badger
Did they remove the death star????
@@r.u.s.e3586 no, we're talking about this big barn, which has 183mm in WT and WoT PC, but not in WoT Blitz. We were never taking about the Death Star, it's still in game, just not the topic here.
Ngl, I much prefer the old intro, it makes you feel intrigued about the mysteries of tanks and their designs and other military designs
I like the new intro, the old one was too long
Me too
Yes
Prefer the old One
Old one was like a documentary opening, which was really cool
For an obsolete design, I sure see a lot of these on the virtual battlefield; and I don't like going up against them, thats for sure. Interesting video. Also, I just noticed that QB posted a video with a FV4005 delivering over 14k damage in WOT. Impressive!
Watching “we were soldiers” and 1 hour and 2 minutes in someone said “one shot one kill” at the exact same time this notification popped down on my screen
They definitely need to bring it inside, last time I saw it the rear of the turret had rusted through in places. also they should do a reunion with that last remaining kv2
Now being restored by Mr Hewes and Tank Museum
Basically Bri'ish KV-2.
British*
@@garlkurzer Bri’ish*
@@shootymcshootfacekoff7972
Incorrect, British*
@@garlkurzer bri'ish (don't you understand the meme culture?)
@@springycz837
British*
This needs an update…
It’s now restored and it’s now alive once more
Wow that British FV4005 tank had a larger gun than some of the US Navy Cruisers of WWII, 183mm=7 13⁄64 in.
it is from a battleship so...
Mr Hewes is restoring this tank in conjunction with Bovington Tank Museum- it is on you tube.
Worth noting and clarifying:
FV4005 wasn't created because Conqueror *couldn't* penetrate IS-3, but that MoD wasn't *certain* if it could, and as such; made FV4005.
I'm happy that Bovington has announced they're going to undergo restoring their FV4005 including getting the turret fitted onto a more accurate hull iirc. I think I remember it's even supposed to get restored to join the rolling stock so might see it trundling about the arena at Tankfest someday!
You can see the restoration on the Mr Hewes you tube channel, being restored to as new with fully functioning running gear. They supposed have the drawings for the blade so will be recreating that too.
Built by a couple of blokes in a shed, and restored by a different couple of blokes in a shed.
Loving this new introduction to Cursed by design!
Cone:Blah blah largest gun ever fitted to a tank
Sturmtiger: Am I a joke to you
largest GUN to a TANK. not to a glorified bunker with an oversized rocket mortar.
I have been waiting for SO DANG LONG FOR THIS ONE!
Thanks, Cone!
You’re having such a good battle in WT being a lvl 100 with 11 kills until you get HESHed by a lvl 23 shitbarn with only 2 kills. True pain.
My luck with that thing is bad. I get a great sideshot and get nothing but tracks and maybe set a fire, then get eaten by some random plane or AA gun.
This tank is so dumb but so fun, I always love doing a one-shot on anything
Ted and his team really killed this one.
Basically, this tank looks like the brits took a naval gun from their ships and placed it on a hull of a tank, painted it green and placed it in combat
Wot: 2100 max dmg on hesh (FV4005 Stage II)
Wotb: 4 ammo in the magazine , 1640 avg dmg on ap, HE She'll: even more than 2.1k
In wot, there is no scarier thing that seeing this tank staring at you, its a fricken bonechilling feel to know that its gun most likely will oneshot you.
They gave it a 4 shot auto loader in 9.1 in blitz. 1650 DMG in 6.5 seconds.
@@tankingwithtigers136 thats not too bad I guess
Same with War Thunder
@@baconofburger8784the con is that the armor is 15mm which can be penetrated by even tier1
Conepfarc:fv4005: one shot one kill
Fv215b 183:what a bout me?
Fun fact the tank itself was designed by the auster aircraft company and the turret itself was made by Chubbs ( A safemaker from Wolverhampton)
from what ive heard over the years is that the FV005 was meant as a supporting tank firing over the chieftains, incase of a soviet invasion which was a real concern back then
Let’s you take control on the tanks AFTER serious grinding/buying. Nice intro btw.
Yo, this intro is really epic. I say this just about every video, but, your production quality keeps getting better.
11:40 I'm pretty sure the biggest gun even fitted to an mbt is a 130mm, excluding engineering variants
Depends how you define biggest. The 152mm gun rocket launcher was the biggest calibre to enter service as a true tank gun. Bigger weapons were SPG or specialist types.
There is a prototype Leopard 2 with 140mm gun, iirc the example still exist
Seeing that the Leclerc T4 Terminateur, has seen development as of recent of 2017 with a new experimental camoflague, that could be soon to change.
Lets hope, eh?
Probably what Cone was on about, a simple mistake.
@@AHappyCub he said "Exculding engineering varients" so i assume he means prototypes are excluded.
Also the Object 195/T-95 has a 152mm gun
The MBT-70 (and the KampfPz 70) had a 152mm launcher, the same of Sheridan
For those who didn't know how the british tested their vehicles, this one especially.
They would put bunnies inside of the tanks they'd shoot as a Result of "Impact damage" for a crew, when they used a Comet I it was simple, when they used this FV4005, the shell had bounced, so they checked the inside and there was no Rabbit, only a mess of red goop EVERYWHERE
Ah yes, let’s play WoT to get it even though we can far easier get it in WT.
This is the first time I've seen anything about the stage 1 beyond just images and vague descriptions. Great stuff!
I loved seeing this gloriously massive prototype at Bovington, but I do really really hope they find a space inside for it, as sadly large portions of the skirting are rusting away, and she could do with a nice amount of restoration again. Fingers crossed, because it’s a beautiful piece of history.
Hi! Awesome update at the end of the year of our Lord 2023: WoT and TTM partnered with legendary TH-camr (oh, and tank restorer) Mr. Hewes to remount the turret on the correct chassis and have it running for Tankfest 2024!
If I had to describe this tank it would just be that the philosophy is simple but not sound
They should have done away with the turret and had the gun fixed forward with a frontal armour shield but open deck for the gun crew.
@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 I believe he said that the reason they even put the turret and huge box on there was to protect against artillery shrapnel
@@TheriCTheri yeh he did say that but I think this vehicle could have been more feasible if they'd have made it similar to the German tank destroyers like the hertzer or stug.
@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 that would have been a big stug I wonder if that would be viable for the times
@@TheriCTheri they should have mounted the gun directly to the top of the Hull to keep the height profile down and used hydraulic suspension to raise and lower the whole vehicle to achieve gun elevation like the Stridsvagn 103C.
Another great video
Thank you for providing subtitles in Portuguese.
Yes, I'm in Brazil and I follow the channel in an expressive way.
All the best
The British were on those good "tea" when they thought something like this would be good.
Although I do have this thing in World of tanks and I have done the unspeakable.
But with the reason nerf to HE and HESH now act like HE. It lost most of its charm.
I understand this tank at Bovington is being restored enough to run this year😊
Looks like it, as Mr Hewes is videoing the restorations he's doing for them :) Some of which is to make it more historically accurate.
Seeing this in the flesh at bovington is an experience. It’s f**king awesome.
"you call me a fat old tank ... but i want to be so much more...
I WANT TO BE ... A CRUISER! A LAND CRUISER!" Now load the depth charge launcher there must be a U-Bahn here somewhere!
*LOVE THE NEW INTRO
Ok suspension aiming tank
I believe the tank and the gun are now in the possession of Mr.Hewes at his shop and getting restored to like new condition.
I actually rly want to see what can a tank armed with a 203mm gun can do to an MBT
Guess, obliterate it?
@@17blaziken Probably, but thats the point
@@guvyygvuhh298 now you see it, now you dont..
@funny stuff 🤣 No battleship was ever built with that caliber. But I am pretty sure any BB will crush it like a coke can.
@funny stuff P.1000 Ratte, I presume?
Love your videos fam. It's rare to see anyone talking about tanks outside of the common few that everyone knows. Hopefully one day we can get a video on the Tortise Tank Destroyer. Keep up the good work.
This is an A+ fucking awesome channel. Great work, great research and great video structuring.
And here we are, two years on, and the restoration is nearing completion!
It makes me sorta sad to see wot as a sponsor :(
Why
A Michigan Boi Whose Real Lazy War gaming has had horrible business practices and is doing really shady things recently
And he was always a war thunder channel I would go to.....
We should be grateful hes earning money (or not), but i get your point.
@@Loup-mx7yt sadly that’s also a large portion of the industry. Gaijin, Blizzard/Activision, EA, could go on.
The new intro is awesome
new intro is good but I like the old one better but it felt like a TV show lol
I like the new one better
@@deptusmechanikus7362 I see
The fv4005 is currently being rebuilt by the TH-cam and tank rebuilders MrHewes, its the same tank that you show at the beginning, from the British Tank Museum, rather its the same turret being put on to the correct bottom bit.
I could be wrong on this, but I think the hull is the original one that it was on when it was being tested
I just wish there was a video of it firing and more photos of the damage it would have caused 😔
So what I've learned.... is that they tried to make self-propelled artillery..... but worse-
I bet a armored double special 127mm howitzer on a MBT chassis towing an ammunition wagon behind it would be more effective
not a self-propelled artillery though.......
Check out Mr hewes his crew and bovington tank museum are restoring one to running and driving
183mm!! Big badda BOOM!!!
6 rounds a minute for 1 minute
Then the loader crew member must be relieved possibly resuscitated
Its already strong with its 183mm in wot, but in wotb its overkill. No literally, it has a camo named overkill
In world of tanks blitz it only has a 123mm gun though, not scary until all 3 shots dealing 460 damage each penetrated
@@chooyongming110 imagine that gun in wot
Should have added the 183mm gun as an extra researchable module *smh* We need more than 2 Derp Tanks in British line.
Or if Wargaming is greedy, they should make it a Tier 10 premium.
@@moisesezequielgutierrez the thing is, if you put the 183mm gun onto FV 4005, that would completely defeat the purpose of the FV 215b 183 line tech tree since the 4005 is easier to grind, and not fair to those who own the 183
@@chooyongming110 the FV4005 is also much faster, so with the small maps WoTB has, the FV4005 could easily run around the small hills and slap you for 1.4k.
FV4005 is being restored to running condition with the correct mark of hull
The stage 1 kinda looks like the chi-ha long gun
This is literally in every sense of the word, a glass cannon. It was definitely a one shot one kill, but that phrase goes both ways with it. I’d be pissin myself if my commander told me we were going against a well hidden 4005
Well hidden and 4005 is two different things...
Warthunder is far better, and realistic to tank physics.
Except the fact that Sprocket, a game with a single person developing it, has better traction physics when it comes to trenches and suspension in general.
War thunder tank physics: *phases into the ground and instantly jumps back out*
World of Tanks tank physics: *tank rolls over after driving over a tiny rock*
@@StalledAgate832 Nah chief, I like sprocket but it's mobility physics are borderline shit atm.
@@ancientwarrior3482 That War Thunder example is a server issue, not a physics issue. The physics engine can't keep up with where the tank is sometimes
@@StalledAgate832 Yes, Sprocket, the game where literally every single tank compresses its own road wheels so bad it can barely move, because the only suspension it has is butter
Just imagine your squadron is rolling forward to meet the Reds and a shell from this thing goes _screaming_ past you from way back there.
I wanna see the Sh*t barn Stage 1 in a game like WT
Would be absolutely useless
no elevation dummy
@@SimonSenaviev so nothing would change really :p
This is the kind of armored vehicle only the British could make.
Thanks, really interesting video.
As for the design of the tank, I think it was an awful design that should have never got past the drawing stage.
winston churchil: *sees stalin bragging about his kv 2s* *turns to enginer : I WANT IT !
"the tank with the biggest gun ever created"
sturmtiger: *bruh*
Sturmtiger isn't anti-tank, it's anti-fortification
@@TheSchultinator oop my bad, thanks for the info
What I like the most about IS-3 debuting on Victory Parade in Berlin is that T-44 wasn't shown. And later on, reworked, upgunned and uparmored it turned into T-54 aka main force behind soviet ground forces armored fist. So it ended up being an unintentional misdirection on soviet part. Otherwise Allies/NATO might have instead pursued the upgunned medium tank projects that would see medium tanks comparable to T-54 being the main focus of development efforts. Uparmored Centurion with 32-pounder and Caernavorn drive train? M26E1 with streamlined hull front, long 90mm and T32 drive train? Basically do what soviets did to T-44 to get T-54 instead of waiting for M48.
thanks for the vid bro
I like the new intro, but I think I prefer the old one better. It has more of a documentary feel.