Hitler's Lion, the Panzer VII Löwe | Cursed by Design

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    Despite never being built, outside of one reported wooden mockup of the rear turreted variant, the Lowe was the first in a line of designs which led to the German super heavy tanks like the E-100 and Maus. Join me today as I do my best to break down the complex development of this design as it progressed.
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  • @ConeOfArc
    @ConeOfArc  3 ปีที่แล้ว +209

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    • @IansMentalOmega
      @IansMentalOmega 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I insist to this day that the German WW2 Superheavy Tanks and even the Heavy Tanks were all designed while the designers were smoking weed or on some other drug.
      German Tank Designer 1: "So, like, what if we made the armor *really* thick, but also almost enteiry vertical?"
      German Tank Designer 2: "And, like, what if we added a big gun? Chicks love big guns, right?"
      German Tank Designer 3: "OOoohhh, and make it so inefficient with fuel that it needs to be resupplied every tens miles or so."
      German Tank Designer 4: "Is this weed bad? I mean, I can't feel it."
      German Tank Designer 5: "Pass it here. Also, we need more munchies."

    • @Glaciate1
      @Glaciate1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey I can’t seem to find the call of war game that was set up because when I search the name of the game it just comes up with a “clash of nations” game which is 12 days old

    • @Doge5600
      @Doge5600 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Coneof45degreeangle

    • @alvinquinto2707
      @alvinquinto2707 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I cant believe that lowe was a super heavy tank and the first
      And i thought lowe was only a heavy
      You also describee the VK 72
      I only noticed that Vk 72s turret is lowe turret
      Wow you also described vk 100

    • @genericscottishchannel1603
      @genericscottishchannel1603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1. Where are the sources you said were linked?
      2. Someone should make a modern super heavy for shits and giggles

  • @tekiic6680
    @tekiic6680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3650

    Germany: No, No. This won’t do, we need something *heavier!*
    Transmission: *life is pain*

    • @primal_guy1526
      @primal_guy1526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +217

      Final Drive: AAAAAAAAaaaaAAAAHHHHhhHHHH

    • @coolchrisable
      @coolchrisable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +185

      Engine: my time has come

    • @RADkate
      @RADkate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      I HATE-

    • @davidolofsson5231
      @davidolofsson5231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      *NO PLEASE NO STOP*

    • @Joshua_N-A
      @Joshua_N-A 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      Transmission: "Why am I here, just to *SUFFER?* "

  • @moai2533
    @moai2533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1047

    I like how this tank could’ve been actually decent and fairly reasonable considering German standards, but they kept increasing the standards to make it impossible to realistically design

    • @davidhollenshead4892
      @davidhollenshead4892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I like how Hitler & his band of Sociopaths kept coming up with dumb ideas to pursue, which helped them lose the war...
      As the only good Nazi is a Dead Nazi...

    • @moai2533
      @moai2533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@davidhollenshead4892 when you waste your materials on random stuff that doesn’t even end up working

    • @WaukWarrior360
      @WaukWarrior360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Increasing the standards by lowering them with a 5 year olds logic, "let's make a T-Rex with spikes and lasers on it!"

    • @micfail2
      @micfail2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @David Hollenshead that's not what happens though, the man with the silly tiny mustache ordered projects like that abandoned and they were continued against his orders, in some cases because of the instructions of military officers, in other cases because of the engineers wanting to complete their work. Maus, for example, had been ordered cancelled by the man with the tiny mustache, work continued because Porsche was unwilling to give up on the project. the man with the tiny mustache was evil, but he was not a madman, despite what his generals who were trying to avoid being held accountable for their own decisions wrote in their memoirs years after the war. You can't expect to effectively combat evil if you can't even understand it and simply dismiss it as the ravings of a madman. The man with the tiny mustache was not a madman, he was rational, but he was wrong because he built his beliefs on an unsound foundation. If you accept the foundation of what he believed (such as socialism being good, capitalism being bad, and racial supremacy) then pretty much everything he did makes perfect sense. Even many of the decisions made during the war that are often used as examples of how he was insane are mostly not legitimate, a good example would be Operation Barbarossa. People claimed he was a madman because he thought he would win the war by capturing Moscow: that's not remotely what happened. He wanted to focus German efforts on army group South to take the oil from the caucuses oh, it was the head of the okh who disobeyed his orders and deployed forces in such a way so as to focus on army group North. You clearly don't have even a basic understanding of this history, good luck not repeating it.

    • @johnserton7997
      @johnserton7997 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hitler thought his soldiers betrayed him so he created chaos to destroy his country. A truly evil man

  • @mikepette4422
    @mikepette4422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2682

    Oddly of all the super heavy tanks the only one that 'might" have worked was the Lowe... still what a mess...

    • @JamesCalbraith
      @JamesCalbraith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

      Not that heavier than the T2, at least in the early phase. Of course that's assuming T2 "worked" as a tank :)

    • @imicz6409
      @imicz6409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      And maybe jagdtiger worked as well. I think, that lowe would have same technical problems.

    • @kh2b573
      @kh2b573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      I think super heavy tanks get too much shit (other than for their transmission designs) for simply being classed as impractical when in reality it wasnt all that bad of an idea for a defensive vehicle ngl

    • @handblitz4408
      @handblitz4408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +208

      @@kh2b573 but why build a few superheavies when you could just build a ton of anti tank guns and StuG III G which would be a lot better for defense anyway

    • @handblitz4408
      @handblitz4408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@JamesCalbraith what is the T2 tank?

  • @michaelthebarbarian3380
    @michaelthebarbarian3380 3 ปีที่แล้ว +532

    And as crazy as the Lowe was... it was absolutely sane next to the E-100 and Maus.

    • @Sccrd4Lfe
      @Sccrd4Lfe ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I mean in the right hands could’ve been lethal to

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      The Maus however actually existed.
      The E100 was never completed, and the Lowe never made it off the drawing board.

    • @michaelthebarbarian3380
      @michaelthebarbarian3380 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@bricefleckenstein9666 Yeah, it's amazing the amount of restraint they showed lol

    • @darthnihiluslordofhunger6314
      @darthnihiluslordofhunger6314 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@Sccrd4LfeUntil it got stuck...100 tons is alot of weight.

    • @Atlas_high-gaming
      @Atlas_high-gaming 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@darthnihiluslordofhunger6314 don't worry it had built in tow hooks for such an occasion granted you'd need a damn large engine to reel it in

  • @qu_gnsnifflesss
    @qu_gnsnifflesss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +533

    Germans: Builds tanks
    German transmission: guess I'll die

    • @serdarcam99
      @serdarcam99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      funny thing they was making best transmission on the world at that time but thanks to funny mustache man they was overloaded af

    • @RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts
      @RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      "Better put the transmission in the front so a frontal penetration is a mobility kill" - German tank designers

    • @qu_gnsnifflesss
      @qu_gnsnifflesss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts lmao

    • @rolandhunter
      @rolandhunter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Transmission myth: oooof*
      Guys I hope you know, this transmisoon things about german tanks, are just a magnified myth ;)
      Average Sherman transmisson/engine life time was 2500-3000 km.
      Panther,Panzer IV, Tiger had 1500-2000 km.
      That's not bad for their weights.

    • @davidhollenshead4892
      @davidhollenshead4892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ABOUT TRANSMISSIONS...
      As a skilled Auto Mechanic, I can best explain by analogy:
      It's easy to make a manual transmission for small cars to mid-sized cars. It's harder to make a manual for mid-sized to large cars or cars with powerful engines...
      Making a manual transmission for large commercial trucks involves a design change, to forgoing synchromesh, so that rev-matching is necessary, that is by revving the engine to a specific rpm before shifting up and a different rpm for downshifting without using the clutch pedal...
      Making a large piece of farm or construction equipment involves replacing the clutch with a torque converter so that take-off from a stop doesn't rip the teeth off the heavy-duty gears...
      What the Germans & others tried to build was manual transmissions with a clutch for heavy tanks that even the most skilled operator couldn't avoid damaging. And in the case of Nazi Germany, I am so very glad they did because it was one of the many bad designs they pursued that helped them lose the war !!!
      AS THE ONLY GOOD NAZI IS A DEAD NAZI !!!

  • @michaeltelson9798
    @michaeltelson9798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    This is another example of the observation: “A camel is a horse designed by committee.”

    • @thispersonwriting1889
      @thispersonwriting1889 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Camels are incredibly practical animals for their habitats. They’re just ugly as sin, surlier than a jilted badger, and spit in your face.

    • @thispersonwriting1889
      @thispersonwriting1889 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Camels are incredibly practical animals for their habitats. They’re just ugly as sin, surlier than a jilted badger, and spit in your face.

  • @riten0tajs623
    @riten0tajs623 3 ปีที่แล้ว +520

    soooo basically the löwe was scrapped and some of the ideas culminated in the design of the Tiger II

    • @imicz6409
      @imicz6409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Yep, that's baisicly story of all failed projects, apart of project of making my IQ higher, that did not end well...

    • @Nutty31313
      @Nutty31313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      And some into the Maus, but perhaps more just the general concept

    • @doogustrog
      @doogustrog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      The Löwe was put into two designs. Lichter Löwe, (VK 70.01 Krupp), and the (VK 72.01) (105-128mm) (VK 72.02-150mm), The two Schwerer Löwen. These two designs, are very interesting, thinking to me about how most likely the Lichter Löwe would’ve been a part of history, given if Hitler wasn’t in favor of a heavier tank, quite constantly. Keep in mind the Tiger II wouldn’t exist if he didn’t make that one fatal decision. We could’ve had Löwen in museums, books, just more so as the Entwicklung (Development) series. A relatively stupid dictator cancelled the 3rd Reichs tank development. Yet, still gave us the marvels such as the Maus and the Entwicklung 100 (E-100) chassis. But how much more we could’ve had... let it linger in your head. Is this reliable? I’ve so far dedicated my life to research on military vehicles, I provide with what I know I can.

    • @nocount7517
      @nocount7517 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@imicz6409 It made it Löwe-r?

    • @imicz6409
      @imicz6409 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nocount7517 Definitly :D

  • @HasvenWorld
    @HasvenWorld 3 ปีที่แล้ว +689

    Kinda wish they went with this instead of the maus so we could've had it in war thunder
    Edit: To everyone saying just play WoT. I know it's there. I used to play WoT. No I'm not going back to it anytime soon.

    • @Janissary452
      @Janissary452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Why not both ? xD

    • @ewkera
      @ewkera 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      *Laughs in Pzkw VII*

    • @AllMightyKingBowser
      @AllMightyKingBowser 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      We could still get this tank and many other prototype/paper designs if the WT community weren't crybabies

    • @ashesofthefallen3266
      @ashesofthefallen3266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I mean if gaijin were to add this it would be a build a bear type vehicle. Since the MAUS was actually built and fully functioning

    • @ICCUWANSIUT
      @ICCUWANSIUT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@ashesofthefallen3266 we do have quite a bit of data on the tank however. I think it'd be fine, but there may need to be some artificial weakspots or buffs depending on where it's placed. It's quite competitive with the IS-3/4, imo. So maybe 7.3? Considering the Leopard and such are there.

  • @kfeltenberger
    @kfeltenberger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +633

    I am amazed at how many designs the Germans condemned to using that Maybach engine. The S-Boat engine would have been ideal, from a power perspective. Good ideas destroyed by cronyism and Herr Mustache.

    • @cirian75
      @cirian75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Yup, the Maybach vs the 20-cylinder Daimler-Benz MB501 Diesel engine with 2,000 hp

    • @bazzakeegan2243
      @bazzakeegan2243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      Yes,gifted designers and engineers.....All useless when you work for a "failed artist, dreamer,and dictator"

    • @admiralfloofz658
      @admiralfloofz658 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Think the problem with the S-boat engine is that its BIG, I mean really big, and heavy. And with that power output its probably not very fuel efficient either so the range would suffer.
      There was really nothing wrong with the HL230

    • @cirian75
      @cirian75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@admiralfloofz658 They did do the MB507 V12 with 1000ps, it was 630mm longer, but weighed less

    • @kfeltenberger
      @kfeltenberger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@admiralfloofz658 The HL230 had issues, especially in anything larger than a Panther, and even then it was probably too little for the mass.

  • @hex6970
    @hex6970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +888

    “Thanks to my Conly Fans”
    Me, hearing ‘Only Fans’ : “Your what”

  • @MikoyanGurevichMiG21
    @MikoyanGurevichMiG21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +657

    Safe to say this design didn't get much Löwe.

    • @iaregbesola
      @iaregbesola 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ef you

    • @MinkyTwats
      @MinkyTwats 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      not funny didn't Löwe.

    • @luke_sv6702
      @luke_sv6702 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      What is Löwe?

    • @qw-zs7pr
      @qw-zs7pr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@luke_sv6702 lion I think

    • @MikoyanGurevichMiG21
      @MikoyanGurevichMiG21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@MinkyTwats My standard of humor is quite Löwe for you.

  • @darkninjacorporation
    @darkninjacorporation 3 ปีที่แล้ว +407

    I’ve always liked the Lowe, it had a nice rounded design compared to other German heavies. It’s like… smooth Tiger I… blursed
    If gaijoob had this as an event vehicle I’d definitely need to get it

    • @hullukana214
      @hullukana214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Kinda doupt that Gaijin will put this ever on wt. It lacks too much detailed Information what it would have been if it entered production. Gaijin usually doesn't like to put too many Prototype tanks and even those have to have some detailed Information about them.

    • @darkninjacorporation
      @darkninjacorporation 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@hullukana214 I mean they added the Ho-Ri and it’s prototype, and those only had a wooden toy mock-up. I think the Lowe would be a good replacement for the Tiger II 105, since that tank really had absolutely no business being in the game (considering the gun sights literally didn’t fit in the turret with the gun). But I loved it very much anyways.

    • @zvin1611
      @zvin1611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      if at least the gun existed its ok for me idk

    • @seppalastname4574
      @seppalastname4574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@hullukana214 "doesn't like too many prototype vehicles"
      *looks at the almost totally fictional Ostwind II that didn't even have a real design yet*

    • @verozety4040
      @verozety4040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have always thought that it looked like a German designed IS tank

  • @brendonbewersdorf986
    @brendonbewersdorf986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    I personally love this tank design asthetically it's very pleasing to the eyes in it's WOT form

    • @uurkisme
      @uurkisme 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lmao i saw this video and I was like heck no it wasn't I hate fighting those things in WotB

    • @Likgaty15
      @Likgaty15 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@uurkismei have the Löwe in wotb and i can say that it is more fun than the Tiger II

  • @JeffTheBunnySlayer
    @JeffTheBunnySlayer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I have always had a soft spot for the Lowe. The designs drafted up just make it look so good - that pinched, rounded turret is a thing of beauty coming out of a country that loves their boxes with guns.

    • @BasedMan
      @BasedMan ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definetly check the proposed "Tigerzahn" turret for the E-75 then. Curvy, elongated and with extreme curved angles on the front it was expected to provide 270-300mm of frontal protection (taking into account said curves)
      It was scrapped due to a propensity of turret jamming and id assume dificulty to manufacture. Seriously beatiful cant wait to recreate it in Sprocket. Mounted either the 128mm or 150mm KwK L/55 guns

  • @NotQuiteSteele
    @NotQuiteSteele ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I think the Lowe is the most aesthetically pleasing of the super heavy designs to come out of the war.

    • @bread5049
      @bread5049 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      except that turret at the back looks cursed as hell

  • @nocount7517
    @nocount7517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Those of us who have played World of Tanks never forget that nigh-impenetrable front mantle.

    • @EdyAlbertoMSGT3
      @EdyAlbertoMSGT3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isn't literally every mantlet in WoT basically inpenetrable? With few exceptions on vehicles meant to be paper.

    • @elleeVee
      @elleeVee 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@EdyAlbertoMSGT3 no, some high tier TDs can punch through many mantlets, but it is tank by tank specific

  • @stevemc01
    @stevemc01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +687

    Hitler: “CHECKMATE STALIN I HAVE SUPERHEAVY TANKS”
    Stalin: “I have working tanks.”
    Hitler: “Ah scheiße…”

    • @Charlietolemy
      @Charlietolemy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      The T-34 had an average lifespan of less than 24hours

    • @marseldagistani1989
      @marseldagistani1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      @@Charlietolemy if it's going to get blown in the first hours of combat why make higher quality parts?

    • @thesnake2620
      @thesnake2620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      @@Charlietolemy They often got knocked out recovered and repaired very quickly, good luck repairing a Panther or Tiger quickly.

    • @CreepSoldier
      @CreepSoldier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      "Working tanks" proceeds into making a tank were the treads rivets needed to be bumped back using a welded trail

    • @troytanner4369
      @troytanner4369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@CreepSoldier yeah the Soviets didn't really make high quality tanks at all until after 1942. The average life span of a T34 was about 160 Kilometers(100 miles). So there was no need to make a tank of such high quality when you can just make a new one or the parts to fix them. Not many tanks in the war were super reliable anyways, its a common misconception that the the Sherman tank was a very reliable vehicle. obviously compared to German vehicles it was but. The Americans didn't need to worry about a tank breaking down because they had basically an unlimited supply of parts due to their relatively simple design. The Germans chose to make everything more difficult then it needed to be.

  • @felwinter5528
    @felwinter5528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    Let's get Loweing

    • @jasoncp3257
      @jasoncp3257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Lowe Gang

    • @krirthikdinesh7755
      @krirthikdinesh7755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I am going to get this for world of war tanks blitz

    • @bigmac3373
      @bigmac3373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@krirthikdinesh7755 it's good imo,the accuracy is good,the alpha damage is decent,and the armor can bounce tier 7 and occasionally tier 8 shells

    • @krirthikdinesh7755
      @krirthikdinesh7755 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bigmac3373 ya I play this the other premium tank VK.something it’s above or below the lowe

    • @hereisaname8567
      @hereisaname8567 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@krirthikdinesh7755 bruh the vk 72 01 is a tier 10 tech tree tonk

  • @Swat_Dennis
    @Swat_Dennis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +200

    Germany in WWII:
    Hmm, that might be an okay design
    Wait, we need *EVEN BIGGER*
    Design fails a year later

    • @mando_dablord2646
      @mando_dablord2646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      WWII German tank engineering in a nutshell.

    • @Quang_Tran_asdf
      @Quang_Tran_asdf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hitler seems wanted everything bigger and thicker. Dude could have lasted longer if he changed his mind and focus on lighter tank like the Soviet did with the T34

    • @mando_dablord2646
      @mando_dablord2646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Quang_Tran_asdf They had the problem of limited resources, fuel especially.
      They also refused to accept that they were stuck on the defensive and change their doctrine. Just slapping on more overall armor and increase weight is literally the worst design decision in tanks.
      They needed to develop more tanks like the JagPanther with front loaded armor and a big gun. Then have lighter tanks to move around and support it.

    • @tripwire3992
      @tripwire3992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mando_dablord2646 they shouldve melted down the maus prototypes and the Lowe to turn them into more stug iii's because they were actually useful

    • @Swat_Dennis
      @Swat_Dennis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mando_dablord2646 Yes/no
      The Germans could never win the war, so all those "wasted resources" were also usefull: They ended the war earlier for themselves

  • @faesommers
    @faesommers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    me, forgetting how german works: im gonna head out to löwes, y’all need anything

    • @davidhollenshead4892
      @davidhollenshead4892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      At least that is a constructive project,
      rather than building machines of death & destruction...

    • @stopdeletingmyaccount125
      @stopdeletingmyaccount125 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@davidhollenshead4892 but...I'm building a trebuchet...

    • @cosmoray9750
      @cosmoray9750 ปีที่แล้ว

      Laos Railway: America bombs, ..... .
      th-cam.com/video/RmtHDbe5YU0/w-d-xo.html

    • @AmbuBadger
      @AmbuBadger 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@stopdeletingmyaccount125I'm building a shower.

  • @05Hogsrule
    @05Hogsrule 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have often said, if I ever win a HUGE lottery prize, I would like to sponsor Germany to manufacture a Lowe with the 128 gun and a revised engine to serve it a little better than originally thought.
    I would definitely have it as a show piece for others to see, hear and touch.
    A Beast of a tank.

  • @ЦветомирИванов-т8ь
    @ЦветомирИванов-т8ь 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    From a tiger to a lion, germany making a whole zoo with these names

  • @M3PH11
    @M3PH11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:46 That is one nice picture

  • @jamesfra1311
    @jamesfra1311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Tiger: There's always a bigger cat.

    • @ypssa4935
      @ypssa4935 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And their new sibling are mouse (maus) instead of another cat (löwe=lion)

  • @averageforzaplayer1048
    @averageforzaplayer1048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Take ramen instead of popcorn: 🍜

  • @RemusKingOfRome
    @RemusKingOfRome 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Imagine a huge German tank with 3 x Tiger 1 turrets in battleship orientation, like a Uber T-35 :D

    • @DeliveryTank
      @DeliveryTank 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      You mean a kv6 but with tiger 1 turrets instead? Might as well make the middle turret a tiger 2 turret

    • @RemusKingOfRome
      @RemusKingOfRome 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@DeliveryTank We never had "Land Battleships" .. should have happened.

    • @davidhollenshead4892
      @davidhollenshead4892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Do you mean like the stationary defenses of the French Margino Line ???
      Huge Tanks == Immobile Forts...
      If you want to use Navel Guns on land, the solution is railway guns, but not insane twin-track railway guns...

    • @Legiondude
      @Legiondude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well you sort of got that with the Kriegsmarine's "Project NM"

    • @RemusKingOfRome
      @RemusKingOfRome 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Legiondude OMG! I've never seen that before. thanks

  • @benlaskowski357
    @benlaskowski357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Love this design. So conventional in everything but its size. World of Tanks brought it to life; I was astonished. Krupp had a good idea, but Shitler wanted 'bigger'.
    The original engine was to be the DB602, the same engine as those on the Hindenburg airship, with 1,100hp. And look at the turret: it's cast in one piece, like a bell. No German tank had a cast turret.
    And the 105mm gun would've packed a hellish punch, capable of killing most Allied tanks out to 2,000 meters.
    And your video is fine, considering the chaos you had to endure. Good work.

    • @kristoffermangila
      @kristoffermangila 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually, the original engine for the Löwe is the marine diesel version of the DB602, the MB501. It was eventually replaced by the 1000 hp Maybach design. I personally think the Kriegsmarine raised objections about using the MB501 in the Löwe, as they also use the engines in their Schnellbooten (A Schnellboot needs 3 MB501s to run).

  • @noahezer9295
    @noahezer9295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well when I wikipedia the Lowe, the rear mounted turret variant is called the Leichter Lowe weighing 75 tons, while the central turret variant is called Schwerer Lowe...

  • @tadodes9382
    @tadodes9382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    How i wish gaijin will add this to wt since they even manage to put ho-ri which is just a paper tank

    • @adyatma1
      @adyatma1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Well, wg added 3 Ho-Ri into WoT blitz...

    • @toaster2049
      @toaster2049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @5 2 and the maus...and the Panther II..

    • @adyatma1
      @adyatma1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@toaster2049 and a freaking american alien tanks

    • @CrusherGER
      @CrusherGER 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@toaster2049 The Maus was actually build, stored at the Kubinka Tank Museum.
      Although not delivered in one piece, but after the Soviets took over they found the 01-Hull and the 02-Turret and put them together.
      Panther II is as you said just a paperdesign.

    • @toaster2049
      @toaster2049 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CrusherGER true

  • @shotforshot5983
    @shotforshot5983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:17. That's a good looking engine

  • @jugandoconlahistoria2180
    @jugandoconlahistoria2180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fun fact:
    The first german super tank was developed and produced during WWI, his name was K-Wagen, a 120 metric tons monster.
    Really nice video btw

    • @amn2760
      @amn2760 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you say it “he”

    • @calessel3139
      @calessel3139 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, the K-Wagen is the truly forgotten German super heavy tank.

    • @Waskotorowy
      @Waskotorowy หลายเดือนก่อน

      The heaviest tank that even worked

  • @benwelch4076
    @benwelch4076 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have really enjoyed this series, always cool to learn about Germany's obsession with the super heavy tanks.

  • @edi9892
    @edi9892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    IMHO, the IS7 is everything the Maus aspired to be. It has a similar cannon, in a way even better armor and it has the mobility and reliability Maus could only dream of... If that's not a true marvel of engineering, then I don't know...

    • @sebastianmartin8002
      @sebastianmartin8002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Russians literally made what a super heavy had the potential to be and totally denied because it was expensive...none the less totally feel the same the IS 7 was a true marvel of engineering

  • @cheecheneg
    @cheecheneg ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you want a laugh, Potential History did a video on the Ferdinand. He also did one called The Tragedy of King Tiger the Heavy loo

  • @kampfgruppepeiper501
    @kampfgruppepeiper501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Never heard of the Lion! Great video, definitely learned something

  • @Sickofsociety1
    @Sickofsociety1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    One of the most interesting tanks I had never heard about was the super heavy T28.
    Back when the armor museum was up at Fort Knox, I took my kids up there to go through it. Before we even went into the museum, I spent 30 minutes looking at that T28. That thing is crazy!

  • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
    @GreenBlueWalkthrough 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    To be fair 20 years later the Germans figured out how to make practical heavy tanks... so practical we call them main battle tanks now.

    • @igoryst3049
      @igoryst3049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Leopard would rather be a medium tank bordering with a light tank

    • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
      @GreenBlueWalkthrough 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@igoryst3049 Leopard 1 yes the leopard 2 more like a medium boarding a heavy. I was also talking about the MBT-70 that was a heavy boarding a super heavy...

    • @antred11
      @antred11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@GreenBlueWalkthrough Boarding? Do you mean bordering?

    • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
      @GreenBlueWalkthrough 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@antred11 Yes.

    • @SCHMALLZZZ
      @SCHMALLZZZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      MBT: the mobility of a light tank, the weight of a medium tank, the effective armour of a heavy tank and armament of a super heavy tank.

  • @pacificostudios
    @pacificostudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The steadily increasing caliber of German tank designs would have led to shockingly low rates of fire. Basically, the Germans were building a KV-2, and Krupp must have realized that 10.5 cm is the practical limit for one piece ammunition.

  • @libertyprimer
    @libertyprimer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    REQUEST! :) ive never seen a tank channel do an episode on the actual tank factories of germany. Like i want to see a cartoon of the tank factory layout and show how they made these massive tanks, steps by step. Thanks for the awesome content.

  • @carol7311
    @carol7311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most famous : Tiger I,Tiger II,Maus and Panther
    Mid but also famous : Pz IV,III,II
    Ok forget them : Pz I and Löwe
    I swear Panzer I and Löwe are the most underrated members

    • @DeliveryTank
      @DeliveryTank 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Laughs in E-10, st emil, and and vk30.01D

  • @toab5541
    @toab5541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Fritz:Hans we need a better transmission
    Hans: More Armor?
    Fritz: no! better engine
    Hans:Bigger gun?
    Fritz: ..... JA

  • @hermes667
    @hermes667 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hitler never understands logistics. Even tanks like the regular Tiger I could not use most bridges, the Kingtiger also breaks into canalisations, tanks heavier than 30 tons could not be liftet by most harbour cranes of the time.
    They consume a lot of ressources and this meant having no tanks somewhere else.

  • @Dunewarrior00
    @Dunewarrior00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It wasn't too forgotten, my first premium tank in World of Tanks was the Lowe. Actually loved that tank, loved the gun on it. Played it as a sniper and was not too bad with it.

  • @raider1_163
    @raider1_163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Cone you need rest and lo-w-e after the research you did on the mostly noodles like development program of lowe

  • @kozaamovies1779
    @kozaamovies1779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    These videos are really nice, hope you will one day own your own tank zoo and frog museum

  • @theodorrodriguez1800
    @theodorrodriguez1800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like your intro, it's the thought that counts, a fitting intro is always a nice touch, effort appreciated my viewing pleasure is greater because of it

  • @deeznuts13178
    @deeznuts13178 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    hey man next do the Japanese Super heavy

    • @mop8226
      @mop8226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He already did

  • @biggussquiggus825
    @biggussquiggus825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great work man. I like the narration, very concise and professional but with some personality. Good luck

  • @assaulthetz380
    @assaulthetz380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have this Tank in my account in WOT, once, just like when it just put in the game. It's turret is near impenetrable. Most of the shells from tier 6 to 8 were bouncing, until it reaches tier 9 where more powerful guns could penetrate its cheeks.
    But the most useful of it was its gun, i'll just stay in cover instead and shoot from the distance.

  • @AgentTasmania
    @AgentTasmania 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "this will be the heaviest tank ever produced by a large margin"
    Hitler: "More armour, bigger gun. No you can't have more time to make the drivetrain, those don't make my ball tingle"

  • @SouseMouse
    @SouseMouse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "VK 7201" - I momentarily confused this with 2701, which was the initial designation of an Allied special unit in the novel Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson.
    2701=37*73 The product of two palendromic primes.
    7201=19*379 Not quite as cool, but still only two factors.

  • @humanitysenterprise
    @humanitysenterprise 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine actually upgrading transmission when a tank is too heavy.
    Shitler and engineers: "I'll just ignore that."

  • @robinbrowne5419
    @robinbrowne5419 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    A pack of hyenas can defeat the lion.

  • @theobjector2881
    @theobjector2881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mein Failure: I demand bigger and heavier Panzer!
    Lowe at Design Stage: I'm in danger...

  • @fulcrumR6
    @fulcrumR6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    still one of my favorite tanks ever. forgotton, never produced, still interesting to see.

  • @station992
    @station992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was thinking to see more about the lowe! Nice!!

  • @michaelhowell2326
    @michaelhowell2326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If we're only playing rule of cool, the Germans had the best armor ideas for WWII.

  • @Nick_Tank-Maker
    @Nick_Tank-Maker 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is probably my favorite German tank that not too many people know about

  • @darknut9696
    @darknut9696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Would like to see the Löwe in WT it's quite good in WoT: console

    • @diesirae8954
      @diesirae8954 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No thank you, no paper tanks in WT.

    • @basketcase1235
      @basketcase1235 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@diesirae8954 "no paper tanks in WT"
      Ho-ri: *nervous sweating*

    • @diesirae8954
      @diesirae8954 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Bachelor BoredThis tank was actually built...

    • @diesirae8954
      @diesirae8954 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@basketcase1235 They made an exception because Japan doesn't have that many conventional tanks in that br range.

    • @diesirae8954
      @diesirae8954 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Bachelor Bored Germany doesn't need heavy tanks anyways, so, they'll never get this one.

  • @stefanrichter9162
    @stefanrichter9162 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone in this chain of Brainstorm thought about logistics? TigerI and TigerII needed for the removal of the outer Wheel-rims and for transportchains to fit on the flat railway car and through the tunnels of a railway. Maximum weight on bridges was also an issue. They were trying to build a supertank what in result could only defend the gate of its factory.

    • @peceed
      @peceed 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is called forward thinking. Perfect for 1945 :P

  • @galaxlordcz3933
    @galaxlordcz3933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As much as people say that Germany was crazy for designing and wanting to build these Super Heavy vehicles, I personally think that for Germany it makes at least a bit of sense, as in WW2 they didn't have the industrial capacity of the USSR or the USA, so making smaller, more standardized tanks like the Sherman and T-34 doesn't make as much sense, as making one Sherman would take as long as a Panther, even though it was a less capable vehicle. Obviously designs larger than the Tiger 2/Löwe were completly stupid a the ammount of material was too much, for what they would have been capable of. Off course as we saw from the 3 heaviest German designs that entered serviece (Tiger 2, Jagdtiger, Feridinand/Elephant), Germany had a problem with designin powerfull enough engines and transmissions.

    • @knoll9812
      @knoll9812 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Everybody had a problem making heavy tanks.
      Both the tiger and the panther needed to lose 5 tons

    • @galaxlordcz3933
      @galaxlordcz3933 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@knoll9812 Kudos for replying after 2 years. Yeah, I'd say most heavy tank projects aimed too high, they always saw a new weapon that could destroy it and slapped on more armor just to handle it, rather than sticking with the original design. Heavy tanks could have worked, but weaponry was moving too fast to rely to armor too much.

  • @GoredonTheDestroyer
    @GoredonTheDestroyer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Describing Ferry Porsche as a madman is the most accurate understatement I've ever heard.

    • @kristoffermangila
      @kristoffermangila 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're probably referring to Ferdinand Porsche's son, who answered to the nickname Ferry.

  • @imicz6409
    @imicz6409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Germany before war:
    Hitler:
    No, we can t produce my but, its too heavy. Let s produce pz I.
    Germany at the end of the war:
    Hitler: don t produce the P.1000 ratte, its too light, lets produce my but instead.
    Albert Spear: Mein Führer, your but accidently crushed Siegfrieds line, the enemies are rushing towards us.
    America, England: oh, so we don't gonna need T28 nor tortoise anymore. They cracked it by themselves. (For those who doesn't know: T28 and tortoise were made for crushing though Germany's Siegfreid line.)

    • @imicz6409
      @imicz6409 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No buts were harmed during making of this comment (I hope)

    • @DeliveryTank
      @DeliveryTank 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where t32 and black prince

    • @imicz6409
      @imicz6409 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DeliveryTank true, but T32 was made latter (I think)

    • @DeliveryTank
      @DeliveryTank 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@imicz6409 it was made in 1945

    • @imicz6409
      @imicz6409 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DeliveryTank OK, sorry, my bad. Thx for info :D

  • @aegontargaryen9322
    @aegontargaryen9322 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So glad I came across this site accidentally. I’m now a subscriber !

  • @bluefalco8784
    @bluefalco8784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    nice one of the most knowen tnaks in wot. can you make a video about the Skorpion ? it is the most buyed tank in wot

    • @hauptmannerich
      @hauptmannerich 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scorpion America SU-57? Or Skorpion German with 12.8cm ?

    • @Oliver-uk3tc
      @Oliver-uk3tc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you are on about the German one, he's done that in his waffen vidio.

    • @mihailo674
      @mihailo674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That tank existed just as a concept drawing, same for the grille 15, jagdpanzer E100, e50, e75... While some tanks in WoT are fake, made up by wg to fill the tech trees

    • @kwkfortythree39
      @kwkfortythree39 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lowe with skorpion's 128mm gun... It would be great

  • @amn2760
    @amn2760 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad you're correctly pronouncing the Löwe

  • @Floki255
    @Floki255 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the way you said Schnellboot. Really close to the actual pronounciation. 👍
    And Versuchsfahrzeug is really difficult.

  • @harlech2
    @harlech2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Madman Porsche" A more fitting nickname there has never been.

  • @__ManMilk
    @__ManMilk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Life was pain for German tank transmission

  • @thecringekid1321
    @thecringekid1321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Germany: “We need a tank that is very heavy”
    Transmission: “Why are we still here. Just to suffer?”

  • @ftffighter
    @ftffighter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Omg Love it! Excellent vid and research! I personally love the little details, thank you for the links! I wish some billionaire somewhere would reconstruct a Lowe for the world lol that'd be so cool. If I was mega rich, I would go full bore recreating every concept tank ever made...yea, it's a problem lol

  • @petermikus2363
    @petermikus2363 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vehicles bearing all three names are present in world of tanks, both the
    VK 7201 and PZ. VII are of the back turreted design one of them having the 128 mm while the other has a 150 mm bot vehicles tier X.
    The mid turreted design, in game under the name of LÖWE is a tier VIII premium vehicle sporting a 10.5 cm cannon.
    PS. I wrote this before finiahing the video

  • @SenHai
    @SenHai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Seeing tank stuff always makes me want to play world of tanks, then I remember how bad the game has gotten

  • @smsus-fn4ws
    @smsus-fn4ws ปีที่แล้ว

    The Lowe will be a beast if it work and get out of the blueprint ofc

  • @customraspi
    @customraspi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m so glad you got the pronounciation right. Most youtubers pronounce it like „love“

  • @AxiomIndustries
    @AxiomIndustries 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    kemp bush

  • @goofyman_7506
    @goofyman_7506 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just love your cursed by design intro, it may be the same every video of CbD but it is still pretty awesome

  • @patrickstewart3446
    @patrickstewart3446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Meanwhile, the Soviets and Americans are making tanks that can cross bridges and navigate city streets.

    • @jwenting
      @jwenting 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      T6 heavy and T28 super heavy want to have a word.

  • @hphp31416
    @hphp31416 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every other nation tanks requirements: mobility, protection, firepower
    Germany: it must weight over 70 tonnes, wait over 100 tonnes

  • @i8yourDog
    @i8yourDog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    *CONELY FANS LMAOO*

  • @monty5692
    @monty5692 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have literally NEVER heard the extended rear of a tank's turret being called the "rucksack", as far as I'm aware it is universally (in English at least) referred to as the "bustle".

  • @CMDRFandragon
    @CMDRFandragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1941 they had the thing planned? Imagine if they actually got that thing out by say, 1943 or 44.......poor Allies.

    • @mando_dablord2646
      @mando_dablord2646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not much would've happened. Germans were already getting stomped and they wouldn't have been able to move it around well. Probably with all the mechanical issues Germans had being multiplied as well.

    • @realwiggles
      @realwiggles 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or maybe they end up getting it out quicker because they prioritize it over one of the solid panzer generations they actually produced and it ends up being a huge piece of shit because it's too heavy to do anything. Things get even worse when Russia snags a couple the German army was forced to leave behind, melts them down, and now every T-34 they produce from that point on gets an extra 30mm of armor lmao

  • @JangoF12b
    @JangoF12b 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly, out of any prototype tank I'd like to see added to War Thunder, this would be one of them
    Taking second place behind the Skink as number one.

    • @INSANESUICIDE
      @INSANESUICIDE ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You got the skink, so we can only hope for the Löwe

  • @CN7810-X
    @CN7810-X 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is why i play world of tanks, the original reason i got war thunder is for the Panther II and E-100 but i was many years too late.. not only that but gaijin refuses to take off the MG's on top of the Panthers and add the FG 1250 as a removable and installable modification,
    you can get so much more in world of tanks

  • @paulschnipper6115
    @paulschnipper6115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great videos as always.
    I like the info saying you don't have any more footage to show and are showing filler footage. I would like to see the text shown once (like you did) but keeping an asterisk shown the whole time the footage is not directly related.
    And when showing the 12,8cm Flak 40 at 3:34 maybe show it on screen with the product name 12,8-cm-Sfl. L/61 Pz.Sfl.V and how it was used in the prototype "Sturer Emil".

  • @catalinhuzumstreza1751
    @catalinhuzumstreza1751 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Hitler wanted larger and heavier tanks, which the Lowe, despite its nearly 100 ton weight, no longer fulfilled". That really says a lot about the man.

    • @kristoffermangila
      @kristoffermangila 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      C'mon, what do you expect from the OG " 'ole one nut"?

  • @KommandantGSR
    @KommandantGSR 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    fact: The Tiger H1 was the main super heavy battle tank
    Just because germany made the Maus VIII and almost go up with the E-100, did the Tiger II, The Tiger H1 with it's transmission problems was a issue, yes.
    But it's Turbo twin Pulsed V-12 Engine for the E models was better than most of their tank, even though the Panther did it's job of Being a Panzer Hunter, the Ferdinand was sent on the eastern front, The Tiger was the most feared, and the Tiger was also the best of all of the others by power, Resistance, Armor buff, and getting the Job done to where tactics relayed on "If you can't send everything at multiple tiger don't bother them til they run out of fuel or ammo"

  • @shenyathewelder9695
    @shenyathewelder9695 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    German tank designer, pulling out their hair: “heavy armor, heavy armor, heavy armor, big gun, big gun, big gun!”

  • @nikolasleal3138
    @nikolasleal3138 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cone of arc makes a video, logic drops a new song, and torself makes a video and it’s Friday. Noice

  • @rice.jpg2
    @rice.jpg2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Germans: designs a new tank
    Transmission: oh Neptune

  • @aldenconsolver3428
    @aldenconsolver3428 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really appreciate your work cone of arc, from decent ideas that had a single flaw to insane ideas that were one big flaw you are an education; Thank you

  • @ralphhofmeier8840
    @ralphhofmeier8840 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Löwe Tank was the blue print for the Leopard and the French AMX30

  • @Frosty_tha_Snowman
    @Frosty_tha_Snowman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:01 A vk99 with a larger, e75 esc turret, and a vk90 hull, with a 150mm gun, sounds like a lot of fun.. you listening, wargaming?

  • @fauxtool952
    @fauxtool952 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this was such a good premium in WoT

  • @rwcowell
    @rwcowell 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great topic. I wasn't aware of the Lowe till seeing this video. Thanks for sharing.

  • @roland969
    @roland969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly the Löwe is the most """realistic""" super heavy tank that could have been effective. NOT by much but noticeably.

  • @adamwilder1894
    @adamwilder1894 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful for an upcoming project. Thank you and good work.

  • @AverageSealEnjoyer69
    @AverageSealEnjoyer69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always wanted to know about Panzer 7

  • @Colonel_dinggus
    @Colonel_dinggus ปีที่แล้ว

    7:16 no! Please! Bore me with more details! I love it so much! 😭