A few years ago I was interested in buying a tire balancer so I figured who would really know the best way to balance tires? Racers! So I went to a couple of races and asked the techs in the pits. Hands down they all balance by static balancing using lead weights. No fancy beads (their words) or fancy spin balancers. So.... considering the guys that were doing 150mph on the race track use static balancers I went with their method.
That's the "ol fashioned way". Now there is Ride On no beads just self balancing liquid AND it also works to seal punctures. 2 in 1 for ALL your tire needs, safe for any type rim, tube or tubeless. Even safe with TPMS sensors. I have no pony in the show just a happy user.
Dyna beads did a great job on my modern Africa Twin as well as classic wheels. It’s such a great idea I even did a video showing it on the Africa Twin.
I had to use beads in my rear on my 03 r1 and it did good all the way up through 160mph. That was a Michelin pilot power though (a very good tire) so that probably made a difference
Could you demo the effectiveness of the 'glass beads' by removing the factory spoke weights, running the bike on a stand showing the out-of-balance vibration? Then install the beads, and show how they eliminate the shaking. Truthfully, I am not a believer in this product, but if you show that it works, my mind is open. Not open enough to fall out, but open to new things. I will watch if you create that video.
@grumpyUnk I too thought this was a bunch of baloney but it is in fact a patented solution to tire balancing invented by Roger Leblanc, 1998. Search the google patent. There is good information on it and more precise detail on how much bead to use and illustrations that show how the bead distributes evenly and why. Two things not mentioned in this tutorial, a necessary part of the solution and the other a mechanical attribute of why this works. The missing part is a small amount of lubricant that is added to the bead. The mechanical attribute is static cling that holds the bead against the tire in its balanced position until struck or removed. Read the patent. Its naturally thorough and quite interesting. CL450
Oakaaay. Spin the wheel, and show the inq uisitive how well it works. As the saying goes, I'll believe it when I see it. Thee was a similar product 40 years ago that mounted on the rim and promised balanced tires. That did not work either. A simple demonstration of the before and after would alleviate any incredulity. I do like the common-motor videos. I have a 1971 350 with 6k on the clock that just needs a battery and tank of fuel, maybe new tires.
Not currently sure, we are just starting to get into the 750's. Any fellow 750 owners out there that will know the answer? I might check the 750 owners groups on Facebook as well
They roll around in the tube and naturally sit at the off balance points in the tire. When you put the correct weight of the beads into the tire it provides enough weight to counteract the imbalance in the tire and balance it just like wheel weights. We prefer them because since they are constantly moving they can adapt to the tire as it wears.
@@wilfredprins9718 it does, but as the force of the out-of-balance spot increases and pulls the suspension in an up and down motion, the inertia causes the beads to move in the opposite direction and rapidly shift until complete wheel assembly is balanced.
@@BronsonJohnson707 well the balance beads balance at speed so a tire balance stand isn't going to give you an accurate reading with this method of balancing. The amount is based on the type of rim, tire width, and tire diameter. For the motorcycles we support, which have tubes in a wire-spoked rim that's 18"-19" diameter, we find this is usually about two ounces. We use a little less on 18" front tires, usually around 1.5 ounces
I don't get how those beads can work. If a wheel is out of balance the wheel will pull out to the heavy side and bring the beads with it so making it worse!
I also find this tough to get my head around, but I believe what’s happening is the “heavy” spot on the tire which pulls away from the center (making it unbalanced) is not actually pulling the beads with it. Because the beads are loose, the heavy point of the wheel instead “pulls away” from the beads in space, leaving the beads to “bottom out” and be “caught” by the lighter spot of the wheel which is closer to the axle. This happens continuously, essentially trapping the beads in the light point closer to the axle, thus self balancing the wheel.
you guys are super informative. so happy I found this page. restoring a cb550 and this has been helping me greatly.
Glad to hear it.
A few years ago I was interested in buying a tire balancer so I figured who would really know the best way to balance tires? Racers! So I went to
a couple of races and asked the techs in the pits. Hands down they all balance by static balancing using lead weights. No fancy beads (their words) or fancy spin balancers.
So.... considering the guys that were doing 150mph on the race track use static balancers I went with their method.
I believe the beads stop balancing the tires at certain higher speeds which may be why the racers don’t use them…
tall highway speeds are also questionable, damn near limited to local street for not seeking a proper balance
That's the "ol fashioned way". Now there is Ride On no beads just self balancing liquid AND it also works to seal punctures. 2 in 1 for ALL your tire needs, safe for any type rim, tube or tubeless. Even safe with TPMS sensors. I have no pony in the show just a happy user.
Dyna beads did a great job on my modern Africa Twin as well as classic wheels. It’s such a great idea I even did a video showing it on the Africa Twin.
Where can you purchase the tire balancing kit. Couldn’t find it on your website. Thanks
I had to use beads in my rear on my 03 r1 and it did good all the way up through 160mph. That was a Michelin pilot power though (a very good tire) so that probably made a difference
Thanks for the video Brendon! Regards from Holland. CB250G owner.
I'm going to order this kit but I don't fully understand how it works. The beads don't weigh very much compared to regular wheel weights, right?
Where do you get your glass beads? 3M?
Peccato che non ci sono i sottotitoli comunque sempre
Bravo ❤❤❤
what the story on your gear tattoo Brenden.....cool
Could you demo the effectiveness of the 'glass beads' by removing the factory spoke weights, running the bike on a stand showing the out-of-balance vibration? Then install the beads, and show how they eliminate the shaking.
Truthfully, I am not a believer in this product, but if you show that it works, my mind is open. Not open enough to fall out, but open to new things.
I will watch if you create that video.
@grumpyUnk I too thought this was a bunch of baloney but it is in fact a patented solution to tire balancing invented by Roger Leblanc, 1998. Search the google patent. There is good information on it and more precise detail on how much bead to use and illustrations that show how the bead distributes evenly and why. Two things not mentioned in this tutorial, a necessary part of the solution and the other a mechanical attribute of why this works. The missing part is a small amount of lubricant that is added to the bead. The mechanical attribute is static cling that holds the bead against the tire in its balanced position until struck or removed. Read the patent. Its naturally thorough and quite interesting. CL450
Oakaaay. Spin the wheel, and show the inq uisitive how well it works.
As the saying goes, I'll believe it when I see it.
Thee was a similar product 40 years ago that mounted on the rim and promised balanced tires. That did not work either.
A simple demonstration of the before and after would alleviate any incredulity.
I do like the common-motor videos. I have a 1971 350 with 6k on the clock that just needs a battery and tank of fuel, maybe new tires.
Semi-trucks have been successfully using balancing beads for decades.
Does this work on tubeless tires also?
yes!
were you at the handbuilt motorcycle show in austin last weekend? I think I saw you
Can you put in too many beads?
Yes I would like to know that as well Gerald.
i have a 1977 cb750k7 what is the biggest tire i can get on stock rims
Not currently sure, we are just starting to get into the 750's. Any fellow 750 owners out there that will know the answer? I might check the 750 owners groups on Facebook as well
How about just put water in....or some other liquid??
Anti puncture fluid supposed to have this effect, but I have never tried this.
What would be the difference on a 650? I'm sure it's close enough, right?
Witchcraft! Love it, thank you.
I love these videos. Very informative!!
Great video! I now have the confidence to try this on my own. I thought it would be way harder.
Amazing videos. Thanks guys
Don’t drop the drill bit.
Would sand work?
Sand is too abrasive. It would literally sandblast the inside of your tube. The glass beads in the kit are smooth. Just buy the kit, cheapskate.
How about basmati rice?😂
Next tire change I will give this a try
Hi!
How did the beads perform?
-Manu
I still don’t understand how the beads are supposed to balance the tire
They roll around in the tube and naturally sit at the off balance points in the tire. When you put the correct weight of the beads into the tire it provides enough weight to counteract the imbalance in the tire and balance it just like wheel weights. We prefer them because since they are constantly moving they can adapt to the tire as it wears.
@@Common-motor is the centrifugal force not spreading them out over the whole tire?
Common motor, how can you be sure you’ve added enough balance beads without taking the tire of and checking on a balance stand?
@@wilfredprins9718 it does, but as the force of the out-of-balance spot increases and pulls the suspension in an up and down motion, the inertia causes the beads to move in the opposite direction and rapidly shift until complete wheel assembly is balanced.
@@BronsonJohnson707 well the balance beads balance at speed so a tire balance stand isn't going to give you an accurate reading with this method of balancing. The amount is based on the type of rim, tire width, and tire diameter. For the motorcycles we support, which have tubes in a wire-spoked rim that's 18"-19" diameter, we find this is usually about two ounces. We use a little less on 18" front tires, usually around 1.5 ounces
Brilliant info, thanks.
glad to help!
I don't get how those beads can work. If a wheel is out of balance the wheel will pull out to the heavy side and bring the beads with it so making it worse!
I also find this tough to get my head around, but I believe what’s happening is the “heavy” spot on the tire which pulls away from the center (making it unbalanced) is not actually pulling the beads with it. Because the beads are loose, the heavy point of the wheel instead “pulls away” from the beads in space, leaving the beads to “bottom out” and be “caught” by the lighter spot of the wheel which is closer to the axle.
This happens continuously, essentially trapping the beads in the light point closer to the axle, thus self balancing the wheel.
I will try
this is nice