Unimog vs HMMWV / Hummer - On the "Flex" track
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Somehow i always miss somthing in the edit. Haha.
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Hey everyone!
Here is some footage of a little test i have been wanting to do, comparing how these two very different, yet very capable off-roaders will handle some big off-sets, that will flex out their suspension.
If you want to see the first test we did, of a bunch of other 4x4's here's a link for that:
• Flex Test! - Lada vs. ...
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I think the Unimog gets through the test track quicker, the higher ground clearance and greater torsional freedom gives it a visible advantage over the Hummer, which has to balance everything with the chassis.
On the other hand, the Hummer is more stable, which is also due to the lower center of gravity.
Definitely an interesting comparison.
Das haben sie voll kommen richtig gesehen,
Hätte nicht gedacht das Unimog irgendwo anders als in Europa Interesse aufweist.
Den Hamvie find ich aber genau so gut.
The UNIMOG suspension is amazing. I've never really had an opportunity to see just how bulletproof the UNIMOG is.
She ain't bulletproof...BUT she's PERFECT♥
@@dallesamllhals9161 the Bulletproof version is called ,Dingo 1 & 2 , but the standart version isnt armored , but i belive early standart humvees werent eighter
@@martindonat3249 Not a 416...
The 416 was MY MOTINF* vehicle during my 2 years as a conscript 1999-2000!
Not a MAN, not a M113, not a Mowag Piranha...(all that stuff came later)
*motorized infantry in DK
Tatra is even better!
@@Schlipperschlopper Quatsch!
Unimog of course - the design is much more intelligent than the Humvee. Goes without saying.
In a combat zone? Or a test strip?
Totally different use case - the Unimog is a truck, the HMMMV was designed as a Jeep replacement... Sorta like comparing a bicycle and a motorcycle.... Plenty of trucks are better than the Unimog - just look at the Dakar races, no Unimog to be found.
@@ckm-mkc mogs had win the dakar, long time ago... currently the mercedes trucks u can see at the dakar are the big brothers of the mog, like actros or arocs
@@ckm-mkc Look at the winning Paris Dakar Mog with the plate number SI-LD 10 (SI for Siegen the town where i live)
@@ckm-mkc your comment is more then stupid, you think Citroen C4 was better car for rallying/offroad then Subaru Impreza or Mitsubishi Lancer because it attended on WRC, while Japanese cars aren't? Also Unimog was on Paris - Dakar when actually it was Paris - Dakar.
👍👌👏 Because the Unimog respectively it's concept is already very old but still doing extremely well, I think it deserves the first place.
Best regards, luck and health.
Oh, sounds just like this old Royal Life Guard(Denmark) 😛
Dear @@dallesamllhals9161
??? Unfortunately I don't know what you mean. Will you please kindly enlighten me? Thanks in advance.
Best regards, luck and health.
@@Chr.U.Cas2216 I'm an OLD danish soldier and in late 1999-2000 My squad had a Unimog 416! = VERY OLD GAL* even in the Danish Royal Life Guard at the time.
^BUT *She still pulled MANs free when off-road!
It’s not old but has a long history of developments.
Look at the newest U 5023 or U 4023 the Hummer can not match at all.
They show here an old U 404 and compare with an Hummer?
Dear @@dallesamllhals9161
Thanks for replying and especially for the information. Unfortunately I saw your answer only now, I wasn't notified from utube at all. 2) The 416 has a big and relatively strong 6cyl inline Diesel engine. I remember the older Unimogs with the famous OM 636 4cyl Diesel engines with only 1700/1800 ccm. Bullet proof but relatively weak for a heavy vehicle. Therefore slow vehicle too.
Best regards, luck and health.
None of them had any problems with that track by the looks of it, but the Unimog definitely demonstrated its superior "flex" :)
Unimog es un tractor no un vehiculo pe uso en combate y mas este que para logistica pero obviamente inparable
This was not flex its only a puddel for a Mog ! Dig two ditches diagonally wheel deep than its flex for the Mog and impossibel for the Humvee.
Diese Version eines Unimog habe ich in den 70ger Jahren bei der Bundeswehr gefahren. Der war Baujahr 1957, also 1 Jahr jünger als ich und er ist nie im Gelände stecken geblieben. Selbst über 70 cm dicke Baumstämme ist er drüber gefahren. Man mußte nur wollen und er fuhr überall lang. Bis 1 Meter Wassertiefe war er auch notfalls unterwegs! Bester LKW ever!!!
Mit Baujahr 57 war es aber ein Unimog 404. Das war auch das mit Abstand häufigste Modell bei der BW. Den 421 gab es 57 noch nicht. Ändert aber nichts an Deinen Aussagen! :-) Ein geniales Fahrzeug.
Unimog all the time. Great video and love watching what you're working on. Cheers
Absolutely. Where a Unimog can't go you need a Vityaz DT or even a helicopter.
Always liked the unimog, ever since I had one in my matchbox collection in the 60's.
Thank you for this objective apples-to-apples comparison.
I think, they're not comparable. When the HMMWV comes to its limits, the Unimog just begins. HMMWV has less ground clearance, smaller wheels, less profile on the wheels and flexes less. The HMMWV sits earlier on hills because of its long wheel base. The HMMWV isn't bad, but the Unimog has the traction of a farm tractor. And you can get agriculture tires for it. The best what you can get for dirt tracks.
If you want something a little smaller tan the Unimog, (If you need to transport less or have less space) then there's the old Pinzgauer 4x4 or 6x6. They can go anywhere the Unimog can, but they are narrower lower and shorter. (At least the 4x4 is shorter).
@@nirfz I'v though Unimogs were incredibly cool since I first saw one at 13 years old and still do at 52. If you are just offloading the Pinzgauer is by far the more practical and most likely affordable option between the two. That being said, at this point in my life I would probably prefer a Halflinger for a dedicated offroad toy. Modifying a Japanese 4wd kei truck is interesting too and may be a lot easier to register and insure if you want to drive to the trail head instead of trailering. Of course with the right trailer an Unimog could probably carry a Halflinger and tow the Pinzgauer and kei truck on some fairly gnarly train.
@@johnossendorf9979 😁👍 Yep.
Unimog, easily, so much more agile and surefooted. Thanks for sharing this with us
I do a ton of serious off roading. I have wheeled with humvees and they excel at two things: water crossings and driving through ruts. I always loved them and wanted one growing up. When I realized how bad they were for general off roading I changed my mind on ever owning one. They are ridiculously complex, seriously under powered, overly wide (and rely on the body as the slide point), and so heavy they sink like a rock. I still love the look of them, but they really suck to wheel. Now the unimog, is a slightly different story. Much bigger tires fit, portal axles, serious suspension flex, seriously strong parts, and better gearing. The main limitations of the unimog is actually poor wheelbase (many of the 406s have such short wheelbases they climb rocks poorly), too heavy, lack of power, and complex driveline. If I had to pick one to off road the mog wins hands down. The fact you can run 44in tires on the axles and not break them will get you places the hummer couldn’t even wi ch itself through lol.
Unimog is literally the BEST off road vehicle ever made
The portal axles/hubs, hardworking engine, the flexibility of the frame, the tranny mounting to the engine, etc.
Also the sexy ass looks
I'd still get a Humvee though, but preferably both
Yup! BUT on the highways = AAAAAARGGGGH!
@@dallesamllhals9161 yeah for real
Plus the manuals on my friend's was a bitch, the clutch and shifter belt getting stuck
Wow the Unimog almost drive through it as if it was a asphalt road, very impressive.
Unimogs SUCKS on tarmac!
@@dallesamllhals9161 Not at all. I have a Unimog 404. Drives Like a dream, in tarmac and in wild Terrain.
@@Mikepet 416 on the danish highways. From Aalborg to Høvelte(north of Copenhagen) in 1 day - April 2000. All in all about 450 km.
NOPE! It wasn't a dream!
@@dallesamllhals9161 i am from Austria. Maybe we have better Roads or the 404 is Just built a little differently. Im planning to fit cabin "Suspension" and an Air Driver Seat in the Future to make it more comfortable.
@@Mikepet EDIT: Was a soldier in the Royal Life Guards (Denmark) = old "well-used" 416 in 2000. NOT a fine, well cared for, civilian version.
I would clearly prefer the Unimog. Here in Germany it is used for countless jobs in a wide variety of industries. For example in agriculture / forestry, fire brigade, rescue service, road maintenance, construction sites ect. and also in the military! Its versatility and off-road maneuverability are its outstanding features. And if need be, he will also pull a low-loader with a heavy load! Of course, the Humvee was developed exclusively for the military with air drop capeability and modular design, but it cannot compete with the Unimog!!!
Deffo the Unimog for me, but I'm biased as I have a 1976 406 and two 1987 1300L Unimogs 🙂
Unimog is the best. it seem like it didn't sense those holes, great machine.
would you please sense my holes?
Great video! Both performed well, though the HMMWV has clearance issues and the UNIMOG seems to demonstrate heavy body roll... Like it was mentioned, testing with a load would be very interesting. I have always thought the HMMWV was way to big a tactical vehicle, which may work well in desert deployment, but size does mater in other tighter terrain. You only have look back at the Willies Jeep and Land Rovers body styles and compare performance. All your videos are very interesting.... Thanks and cheers from Ottawa Canada....
Quite an impressive display of each vehicles good and not so good points in this particular test.
What really does shine through though is the overall stability of the tray on the rear of the Unimog, basically it remains level until you get to the extreme holes. The main reason for the tray being steady and almost level is the live axles with their approximate 600mm of articulation. The trade off is a slower overall speed on interesting terrain if you really wish to push the vehicles, but everything has a price. If you watch the side camera on the Unimog you can really see the cabin flexing with the front part of the chassis, while the flexible tray mount remains fairly steady as the chassis underneath writhes around like a serpent in a hurry.
I have an Isuzu NPS 300 (made in Japan) which is a 7500kg factory 4x4 vehicle (Australia) converted to single wheels (rear duals standard) with a complete suspension change. It too has approximately 600mm of wheel articulation due to live axles. While our tray is spring mounted on four points of each chassis rail for a total of 8 spring mounts, the Isuzu doesn't have quite the same amount of apparent chassis flex as the Unimog. But our chassis certainly flexes, the cabin twists with the front part of the chassis, the axles go up and down like yo yo's while the tray remains basically level; until one gets to the extremes.
Our camper is on the back of the truck, permanently bolted to the tray. Our maximum travelling weight is around 6000kg fully fueled and watered, reducing to around 5500kg as fuel and water are used; well within the comfortable rough road range capability of the vehicle and it eats sand dunes for breakfast. I would like to see a future test of some of your vehicles running at approximately 80% of their stated gross vehicle mass. I can tell you from decades of experience once you load a vehicle to its rough road gross vehicle mass, the dynamics really change and I think you may also find it interesting to see just what they are capable of doing when loaded like that.
You can see the Unimog chassis flex by the onboard camera. The rear view mirror is large but it almost disappears when the truck is hitting the holes
The Unimog and the Humvee are both awesome and unique vehicles. A real fun test. Would be for Gale Bank's to max out both. And see what they can do!
I personally would like a Unimog. But they come in so many versions. It would be hard to pick just one!
the unimog made it look easy i thought was going to turn over but no skiding like the hummer unimog is the champ
It's obvious that the winner is you for having both of those trucks. Both awesome. I have not knowledge of the Unimog, so that was impressive. Any content you create is all good for me, so no wrong answers here.
Haha, good point :)
And thanks a lot!
They are different vehicles. Nothing can beat clearence and nothing has a Mogs clearence. I drove plenty of Humvees while in the army. The were very capable but were "fragile" they needed a ton of maintenance. The diesel engine is slow and weak. The unimog is a unique vehicle in that its a multipurpose off road contraption that serves as a basis for a myriad of heavy duty purposes. Its rude and crude but does things that no other can do.
Unimog, please keep them coming.
OH YES!
Having been a passenger in the back of each of these vehicles I’ll tell you it feels much safer in the back of a Hummer. The Unimog is terrifyingly tippy.
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The purpose of military vehicles is not the only off-road tracks. Both of them passed this track but the Unimog is higher which means it's easy target on the battle field.
Nice video. It the first one of yours I have seen. The Hummer did better than I expected. But I love the Mog.
There's no better vehicle in the world than the Unimog 🥰
The UNIMOG is engineered nearly 80 years ago and still, in his basics, the same despite some more electronics and design. Have been and driving one in the manufacture Off-Round testing facilities in Gaggenau (Germany). She just ignores every obstacle. The HMMWV in made for another object. Great vid anyway.
On a side note, I was in Washington D.C when the servicemen were returning from Kuwait. Several complaints I heard from them was 1. that in full tactical gear the driving position you had one cheek on the seat pad and one off. 2. they had to carry multiple alternator belts.
you are a very talented mechanic, and seems like a helluva guy..thx for great content w/o annoying music or pining for money every other minute..your site will continue to grow..never change..have fun, be safe..
totally agree
Thank you very much, i really do appriciate it!
And thanks for wacthing along!
The Mog will always be the Belle of the Ball, no contest
Unimog is the best
unimog, must admit i thought at one stage it was going to roll over but it coped really well.
^What THEY say about my 2CV 6 Club!
Maybe it's better next Time just to stop and then try to drive.
In this Video we see how flixible the Chassis and Suspensions are. Which is very good how you showed us.
But when you stop at the Obstacles and try to start, we see which Locking System is doing a better Job.
Thanks.
Unimog trumps the Humvee on the twists every time! :)
Unimog over hmmwv any day every day 😂
(Love the hmmwv because it’s iconic, but unimog is just nigh impossible to beat!)
Great Video. Do it Again....
The concept of the Unimog ist 40years older but still the best for 4wheeler...
Both are good and it is really enjoyable to see what they can do and it would be nice to see how both of them do in deep mud 🤔? Also if you can test a military car called Sisu gtp on these two 🤔🤩
Unimog Absolutely 👍
the unimog i definitely would like to see more comparison video please
Thanks, I chose the Unimog!
You can drive the Humvee to the place where Unimog starts. 😉
Unimog quickest, least wheelspin, fewest pauses. Definitely the Unimog has the better drivetrain. But the Unimog's high centre of gravity looks like it might lead to a rollover if the obstacles were just a little deeper, whereas the Humvee always looked well-planted.
Unimog 💪 20 years older and just getting it done 🤘👊
Thankful.
Interesting seeing a hummer off road (I still don’t understand them🤷♂🤣🤦♂) if I remember right a 406/416 is supposed to flex around 600cm (24inches) you also nicely showed the chassis flex as well… the reason you don’t weld or drill mog chassis and have 3 point mountings 👍
Unimog is my choice.👍🏻 more like this..
The Unimog due to being high wheel narrow base is prone to tipping, almost lost it a couple points (if loaded with cargo it very likely would have), but did not high center. The Hmmwv being low wheel base and wide takes a lot to tip it, but with the height of the mounds nearly got stuck to high centering. Both did good and bad with neither actually beating the other.
The Unimog is far more stable against tipping than you would think. It just flexes.
The only real comparison test that I thought might have been achievable would have been too see which one's paint hung on the best/longest. Even then with the Mog's
clearance I think the BUMMER-HMMWE would have lost out on that as well. Although what can you honestly expect from a Tarted-Up Chevy that isn't even safe to get
shot at in??? Ye'ha
Interesting, I was surprised at how much the mog's wheels came off the ground. It was expected for the Hummer with IFS/IRS. I guess they both made it through, so both win.
das ist ein uralter Unimog. Auch bei Unimog gab es in den letzten Jahrzehnten technische Verbesserungen. Unimog heißt im übrigen "Universelles Motorgerät". D.h. es ist eine vielfältige Arbeitsmaschine und hat somit gänzlich andere Ansprüche als der HMMWV, der als Militärgerät konzipiert wurde.
Cool!
Thanks for video!
Brave Ukraine!!!
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Unimog clearly. If it was loaded a bit more, it would have gone through that even without the need for differential locks perhaps. The Humvee meanwhile is close to giving up on traction in the last hole...
it looked to me the wheelbase on the humvee was longer? so it did not get maximum effect of being in the hole with one front tire while on top of the hump with the opposite rear. There would have been more teeter tottering in my mind. my feeling is that a metric ton of cargo would also make a difference.
no contest Unimog FTW
That humvee looks awesome but I think the unimog is much better
🔵🔵🔵👍👍👍😀😀😀🔵🔵🔵
These vehicles have different strengths and are for different uses.
Unimog more for worse roads and messed forest paths at slower pace.
I think humvee specializes more for faster speeds over shitty roads. In most cases you’ll be able to go through more challenging terrain with the unimog.
In the hummveee you can go faster through medium challenge terrain and feel confident you won’t bounce on to your side.
There’s a few climbing tricks the H1 can do that the unimog won’t and vice versa.
Both are amazing, just depends what your using em for.
I agree these vehicles have different purposes and capabilities no vehicle with a length as short as the HMMWV has any "flex" compact sedans are longer. If we wanted to compare drive it next to a lmtv or something
@@beartankoperator7950 H1 is a combat car and the successor to the jeep. The Unimog is a light GP cargo truck. proper comparison would be between the H1 and Merc G-Class.
Closest thing to a Uni would be a M809 or a M939
By occasion I just learned today elsewhere what acronym UNIMOG means. UNiversal MOtor Gerät. I really think the UNIMOG did better here. I know any design contains a lot of compromises. Comparing these two vehicles anywhere else might produce opposite 'result'.
Hi. Nice vídeo.
I think the Unimog was better.
If scoring on style, the Unimog wins!
I think the Unimog is better, it has all wheels on Ground.
Just like my 2CV 6Club in corners 😛
The Fennek would also be an interesting comparison for the Hummer.
It sure would!
I always thought the Fennek looked really cool and interesting.
But i have never even seen one in real life.
Thanks for watching!
How does the rear part of the UNIMOG rotate compared to the cab? Is there a mechanism that does fhis, or is it just frame flex?
I is "Just" the frame that is Flexing. but unlike many other trucks, it's by design, and all part of the unimogs suspension.
You use the front and rear locker, if you drive with the unimog? The hummer h1, has also lockers?
On the unimogs, you usually can't chose between front or rear locker.
both will be activated with the same leaver (or knob) and come on and off, together.
And for the Humvee/Hummer. the simple awnser is yes.
And the complicated awnser is, military Humvee's like this one, do not have "Normal" differentails and lockers. they have "Torsen-Differentials" and that, combined with how the drivetrain is built, means that you can lock-up those differentials, by applying brake pressure, to even the rasistance on both wheels, giving it the effect of locked differentials.
I know torsen differentials, my delta integrale has also such differentials, thank you for the answer
Although i feel the Unimog is the better all-terrain vehicle remember the Hummer is "Multi Role" and is designed to be air dropped from a plane into the field so...
You should see Unimogs 419 (same as video but with backhoe and front loader) been air dropped
Interesting. The IMG, has incredible suspension articulation, but more body roll, the wheels always on the ground, the HV was tricycling through most holes, it progress was more intermittent, as the traction control had to work harder, the rigid frame seemed to provide less body roll. Interesting would be to see them both do the same path loaded. Thanks for this vid. A modern UM may be much improved??
A Unimog of the same age would allways win.
Mog rules!
Unimog, but try the Pinzgauer also! It is smal and light, but also has portal axes. It is maybe superior even to the Unimog, which is considered the gold standard. The Hummer also has drinking and reliability issues. Its room concept is ridiculously decadent either, not suited for the European scenario, imho.
I would love to try out a Pinzgauer! :)
FFS! Not even gonna' leave a comment...og så alligevel...Naaah! TeamArmyTrucks knows which Team i'm in/on/etc.
1 over norm for glimragende video, folkens :-)
Now seen: YUP! Flawless Victory to Unimog 416!
Skal dog siges mht. Hmmm-something: Den ægte vare har jeg kuns prøvet to gange inde i base! Mowag Eagle 1 derimod... Åh-åh! Hvis ikke på fladt banet vej, så... 😲
Haha, ja, Eagle 1 var sådan set bare en Hmmwv undervogn. hvor der i stedet for aluminiums karros, var smidt enormt meget panser oven på. hvilket egentlig bare resulterede i en enormt tung humvee. og det er virkelig Ikke idielt, til offroad. :)
og så var det vel at mærket før humvee's blev "Up-Armored" (hvor undervogn, motor, gear og drivlinje også blev opgraderet)
Så Eagle 1 havde stadig det "gamle" hmmwv undevogn og drivlinje.
The Unimog never even spun a wheel and no need to stop to engage 4 WD, flick a switch (if it was needed at all?)
Not to say the Hummer was bad, I was quite impressed with it too.
Neither vehicle needs to stop to engage 4WD.
I like them both, Unimog has more attachments; bucket, backhoe, hydraulilic tools, etc,.. and less parts is more reliable, I would rather have the Unimog!
Hmmwv’s flex like crazy if you disconnect the swaybars
They both did quite well, the merc is a bit better, but I am sure you can find something else that the humv does better
Love the 416 I am currently building 1 ;7 scale model of a Sandf Buffel based on the 416 chassis
What on earth is that?
@@dallesamllhals9161 it was a South African defense force v-hull mine protection troop carrier named The Buffel.
@@willembuys5827 Ah! This Dane didn't have those fine Anti-Ied vehicles when on tours during the '00s.
Tried an Ied* once in 2007...ain't fun.
*Tiny one - OLD 75mm from who knows when, the engineers said.
Apple vs Orange.
But fun to watch.
My 2 cents:
For fun, the Unimog.
In a battlezone, the Humvee. Lover (harder to spot and a smaller target) and a more stable weapons plattform. Cant imagine shooting a M2 bravo out of the Unimog, let alone 40 mike mike.
Did shoot the MG3 out of the Unimog, not pleasant at all.
I think, I prefer the Mog but Hummer wasn't bad - not as consistent in it's forward movement, though.
The Unimog
Unimog.
The US military used unimogs. They were a combat engineer swiss army knife
And we’re designed to drop by parachute.
Mog, hands down.
UNIMOG invincibile 💪🏻🚜🔥💣😜
Unimog have a good tweest.
You are trying to flex the vehicles without load. HMMWV only flex on springs. The Unimog is designed so that in addition to the springs, the frame also works. Both vehicles are amazing and do a great job of their original tasks.
The Unimog having Portal axels more ground clearance, anyway I hear this Humvee having a Diesel engine.
I like this with Pickup configuration.
Did you fit in the engine youself?
All Humvee's have Diesel engines.
It was only the later civillian Hummer's that would come with gasoline engines :)
Thanks for watching!
@@KJOff-Road
Thanks for the information.
Was this a Detroit engine?
Specs please?
They started out with a GM "Detroit" 6.2L with around 150hp.
Later they were upgraded to a GEP 6.5L with around 160hp (Some of the older trucks were retro-fitted with these)
And later on again, they got a GEP 6.5L Turbo-Diesel. with around 200 hp.
Both has cons and pro,s but for my money the unimog
Sind beide Fahrzeuge Meilensteine in der Technik wobei mir persönlich der unimog besser gefällt. 👍🇩🇪
Unimog!
From a military perspective this is not an easy problem to answer. Both covered the course. The Humvee Had an easier transition overground. It lacks f & r diff locks . That's a very poor failing for drivers to cope with. But marks for making it. Equally the Mog is a cork in a bottle experience that is demanding on passengers, tiring to ride in and not it's sole purpose. More lading will Introduce stability. As ballast. The 411 then as a material transport is very able. It must win for that purpose. The HMV for carrying grunts and their munitions wins on sure footed ability and comfort. It lacks technical components however that is a fatal embarrassment should it get stuck at a regroup manoeuvre. I've seen it get screwed over during turn around in modern theatres becoming a target for enemy fire. The Merc isn't in that field of purpose. Not really a patrol vehicle. It's a logistics vehicle. One I prefer over the APC on rubber.
Very good points. and i do agree.
These two were indeed made/selected for completely different roles, in their armed forces.
Thanks for watching!
The other thing is that a Unimog is not really designed to be pushed out of the back of a plane. I'm someone, somewhere has tried to airdrop a Unimog but it's not really designed with that in mind....
@@ckm-mkc So best = dropped from plane! BMD?
Unimog did it more smooth. show us more!
Both very capable, i think the hummer did it with a bit more grace though
In the heavy trucking industry before globalisation there was a saying.
In Europe tomorrow's technology today and in N America , yesterday's technology tomorrow.
There is quite a difference in age too. 75 compared with 89 don’t you think that there would be a tech disparity. I drove the 85 to 90 model mog in the ADF I’m sure it would be better that this old one.
That would indeed be more fitting.
I just didn't have one of those, on hand :)
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unimog hands down winner
Unimog are basically the workhorse of forest service fire crews in southern Europe. These trucks climb hills like goats full of water in their tank. The hmmv is like a big 4x4 car, the Unimog a lighter version of a deuce truck. So, Im not sure, like comparing a bit Apples and Oranges.
"comparing a bit Apples and Oranges." I don't agree, both are built und used for the same purpose, so they have to be compared under identic circumstances, don't they?